Best rivalry in Texas.....

[scooter!]

any classification too....


I have a tie between 3.


Lufkin vs. IKE


WF Rider vs. Old High (wichita falls high)


and........ Midland Lee vs. Odessa Permian.

[RPM]

Battle of the Arroyo
Harlingen vs San Benito
your talking about 15000 fans year in and year out dont matter if one team has a losing record...and a trophy to be giving out at the end of the game to the winner...

[CoppellCowboy57]

Lewisville vs Flowermound - Battle for the AXE or somthing like that

Flowermound vs Flowermound Marcus - Battle of the Mound

Coppell vs The Green Ppl - even though it lacks much compation, its always intense, and SL ppl remember when two years ago, @ SL are Silver Spurs (Pep Sqaud) ran around your senior perents during senior perent night, that was glourus untill all of them got suspend!

[RedRage00]

SA Lanier and SA Fox Tech (Chili Bowl)

Gregory Portland and CC Carroll (Battle of the Bridge)

Victoria and CC Carroll

SA Clark and SA Churchill (Gucci Bowl)

[dada]

Elsik vs. Hastings: Brothers vs. Brothers, etc. If you've been there are in the Alief area you know what I'm talking about.

Yates vs. Madison: Not like it used to be, lost some of it's luster.

Aldine vs. Esienhower.

[owlfan 1]

Garland vs. South Garland - the schools really do hate each other.

North Mesquite vs. Mesquite - used to draw 20,000 before Poteet and Horn opened.

Carter vs. Kimball - huge neighborhood rivalry; extra police are called in

Stephenville vs. Brownwood - classic Texas HS rivalry

[wide-e-wide]

Lufkin and Ike???
They haven't even been playing each other that long...
I would lean more towards Lufkin and Nacogdoches.
Of course Nac has fallen off in the last 10 years...but that
was not always the case. Lufkin took it's share of beatings from the
Golden Dragons...

[supercentex]

Odessa Permian-Midland Lee

Abilene High-Abilene Cooper

Lufkin High vs Longview

A&M Consolidated vs Bryan High

Southlake Carroll vs Lufkin High

Southlake Carroll vs Denton Ryan

Ennis vs Waxahachie

Killeen High vs Killeen Harker Heights

Smithson Valley vs Converse Judson

Dallas Carter vs Dallas Kimball

Duncanville vs DeSoto

Tyler Lee vs Tyler John-Tyler

Marshall vs Longview

The Woodlands vs Lufkin High (new rivalry)

Klein Forest vs Klein Collins

Waco High vs Temple High

Copperas Cove vs Waco High

Copperas Cove vs Killeen High

i'm sure i'm leaving out a few..........

[pack0808]

i do not see lufkin and ike as a rivalry at all. they have only played 5 times and lufkin has won the last 4 and the last few have been blowouts. i see next year being another blow out. as for lufkin vs nac, the oldest rivalry in texas. it is not a rivalry anymore either. the game is a joke every year. lufkin destroys them and the game is usually over by 1 quarter. it is been over 10 years since nac beat lufkin. so much for that rivalry. i think tyler lee is lufkin's big rival now. every game is a war and almost all have been close in recent years. lufkin has won the last 2 but they were close. longview is another great rivalry. yes lufkin has won 10 in a row but the majority went down to the end. not to mention these 2 hate each other. if lufkin played slc more often that would be a great rivalry because both of those games were great that went to the end.

[NewSherriffInTown]

Are there any big rivalries in 15-5A??? The 4 Round Rock schools draw against each other?? Leander vs Cedar Park?? Anything like that really big??

[Red Raiders]

Garland vs. South Garland - the schools really do hate each other.

North Mesquite vs. Mesquite - used to draw 20,000 before Poteet and Horn opened.

Carter vs. Kimball - huge neighborhood rivalry; extra police are called in

Stephenville vs. Brownwood - classic Texas HS rivalry

Why extra police are called in for Carter game? is it bad there?

[supercentex]

Are there any big rivalries in 15-5A??? The 4 Round Rock schools draw against each other?? Leander vs Cedar Park?? Anything like that really big??


Opps....yeah

Pflugerville vs Leander

Plfugerville vs RR McNeil

[Warbird]

District 3-5A is really nothing other than a district full of rivalries.

Abilene High vs. Abilene-Cooper
Midland High vs. Midland Lee
Odessa High vs. Odessa Permian

Then, of course...

Odessa Permian vs. Midland Lee
Abilene vs. Midland Lee, at least since Quisenberry took over the rebels.

[ralph'sboy]

katy vs taylor...the entire week of practice is known as blue week.

[drgnbkr]

Carroll & Lufkin have only played twice but...it does'nt get much more intense...the fan bases are equal & the noise.....man, it's a hell of a spectacle! Wherever they play....

[jtk1519]

The best in the state is Brownwood vs. Stephenville. Those two schools and towns just flat dont like each other.

In 3-5A... All the crosstown games are huge. Each will draw 16,000-22,000 fans and some would draw a lot more if there was room. There was a couple of times that Midland Lee and Permian met in the playoffs and the game had to be played at Jones Stadium in Lubbock so around 30,000 fans could attend.

One of my favorites in this part of the state is Abilene Cooper and Midland Lee. Lee leads the series 21-20-3. This rivalry featured one of the best games played in Texas when Cooper traveled to Midland in 2000. Both teams left their defense at home. Lee's Cedric Benson rushed for over 300 yards and God knows how many TDs while Cooper QB Jordan Neal threw for almost 450 yards and a butt load of TDs. Lee eventually won (and went on to win it's third consecutive state title), but that was one helluva game.

[garlandowl08]

Why extra police are called in for Carter game? is it bad there?

Typically, in the D/FW area, Dallas and Oak Cliff are seen as being dangerous, and not only do they bring extra police in for the rivalry game, there are many police there for every game. Also, when they travel there are extra police. South Oak Cliff can be a scary place, or so it is said.

[Chief Wahoo]

Laredo United vs Laredo United South (The who really cares bowl) :)

Seriously, does it get any better than Abilene High vs. Abilene Cooper?? :eek:
Northside of the tracks vs. Southside of the tracks. Good vs. evil. Just razzing you Cougar fans..

[DipnSpit]

katy vs taylor...the entire week of practice is known as blue week.

Since when?

[North Shore Mustang]

New rivalry....

North Shore vs. Westfield

[LHSLion11]

Okay guys I'm back sorry for the long absence....

Leander vs Cedar Park is not a very pretty match up...These school don't like each other one bit. Cedar Park sold shirts at their school that said "Atleast when we lose, we don't go home to trailers" They're big jerks to all of us, but I mean whatever...They had a lot of really good seniors and we lost a lot of players so I mean we'll beat them next year for sure...

[stevefoxsc]

no one from temple looks at waco as a rival we see belton as a rival we could go 1-9 but as long as we beat belton dont matter how many games we lost

[jtk1519]

Laredo United vs Laredo United South (The who really cares bowl) :)

Seriously, does it get any better than Abilene High vs. Abilene Cooper?? :eek:
Northside of the tracks vs. Southside of the tracks. Good vs. evil. Just razzing you Cougar fans..

It's OK... we know were good. ;)

[Jtate862003]

Lee vs Jt used to be big

But now i would have to say Lee vs Lufkin or Lee vs Longview are bigger.....id have to go with Lee vs LUfkin being lee's biggest rivarly game!

And what about Palestine vs Palestine Westfield?

[rangerpride]

I have a feeling after last year's bus painting incident, that Judson-SV will become quite the rivalry, assuming SV's stellar group of seniors next year get the job done at Judson this year. (Don't laugh just yet, Rocket fans!)

SV's offense will be much improved and their defense won't miss a beat with so many returning letterman.

[jrdaniel]

For Judson, it is whoever decides they want to share the spotlight that year in SA. For a while it was Churchill, then along came Macarthur but they fizzled away. Then Roosevelt took the challenge for a few years, followed by Madison for a nice run. Has the torch been handed off to Smithson Valley now? Time will tell, but I believe so.

[Dds115]

Coppell vs The Green Ppl - even though it lacks much compation, its always intense, and SL ppl remember when two years ago, @ SL are Silver Spurs (Pep Sqaud) ran around your senior perents during senior perent night, that was glourus untill all of them got suspend!

I would agree with you there, Southlake vs. Coppell is a pretty big game. That was one heck of a dirty game when the pep squad ran through the senior night. As soon as that happened I knew the game would not be pretty, as I recall it was a night of rough play.

[pack4life]

Coppell .vs. Carroll is a rivalry? Oh, right :p . It seems to have lost its luster over the past few years.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Coppell .vs. Carroll is a rivalry? Oh, right :p . It seems to have lost its luster over the past few years.

No thats not true, the 2003 match up was pretty close i think they ended up winning by two TDs but the scored the last on with like 20secs togo

Sometimes its not about the score, its about how much each team hates each other, its a dirty dirty rivalry

[pack4life]

I bet JT and Tyler Lee hate each other, but that doesn't make it a good rivalry. So do Lufkin and Nac, but still, not a good rivalry anymore

[Rerun]

How could anyone leave out this one???!!!???
Schertz Clemens vs. Converse Judson

[ktigers08]

I know the two teams have only met once, but the Tigers and Dragons have built themselves a pretty big rivalry. 16-15, can't get closer than that. The two schools are pretty equal in tradition, pride, fan base, etc. I know that SLC was waiting for another date with Katy in state last year, and the same feelings were felt down here. Two schools with huge tradition who came within a point of eachother the one and only time they met, spells a great rivalry in my book.

[g-town07]

Why extra police are called in for Carter game? is it bad there?
because its in the middle of oak cliff/ south dallas
thats why extra police are called in lol
we went out to kimballs field to play carter last year though, and the people were really nice, so idk

[Warbird]

I'm curious...who do the Dragon fans think of as their rivals? Lufkin, Longview, Katy, and maybe even Abilene?

[Rerun]

I'm curious...who do the Dragon fans think of as their rivals? Lufkin, Longview, Katy, and maybe even Abilene?

Smithson Valley

[drgnbkr]

Having played them twice..my vote goes to LP...the close scores, the wild fans, just a tense, tense, scene. We have had close, great games in the past, but there is something electric in the air when the Pack & Dragons get it on...IMO :)

[CCDawgs05]

I love our rivals.....

Cove vs. Waco

Cove vs. Harker Heights (New rival)

Temple vs. Belton (to bottom feeders of the district and they still pack the stands)

Brownwood vs. Stephenville

[MojoRaiderPower]

Temple vs. Belton (to bottom feeders of the district and they still pack the stands)




If Tam was still coach, Temple would not be at the bottom for long but......

[stevefoxsc]

actually one of the worse ive seen was a School called Forest brooks and smiley high out n houston i saw a cheer thing on mtv document and when they played each other sheesh talk about haterd i remeber there was a shooting. Bottom feeders huh cove ill let your 1 dimensional school enjoy the 1 and only sport they can beat temple in

[0487]

since I played in the ancient 1970's M.B.Smiley Golden Eagles vs. Forest Brook Jaguars. I lived in the Brooks school zone but went to Smiley. Good clean ffun back then.

[ALLIN]

Ya, SLC was waiting for Katy, but not everyone did their job! Maybe this year, Good luck!

[SWTAlumni]

I agree with Jstate........Tyler Lee vs Lufkin or Tyler Lee vs Longview ranks in the top 10! All of these 3 teams have been ranked in the top 10 together over the past three or four years.

[KT2000]

I think the East Texas rivalries are probably the best in the state right now in a few classifications.

Lufkin-Longview has been lopsided towards the Panthers lately as far as win-loss, but every game has been very close (painfully close if you are a Longview supporter).

Tyler Lee-Lufkin has also been a great series lately.

Port Neches Groves-Nederland is one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned. Two of the best fan bases in the state, and two close proximity Triangle towns.

Bay City and La Marque are natural rivals based on location and the fact they've both won state titles recently.

26-5A has good rivalries of course.

One of the best non-Texas rivalries I've seen is Miami Northwestern vs. Miami Central. The Miami city schools in Florida really have some heated rivalries. Northwestern and Central played their regular season game in the Orange Bowl a few years back (not positive if they do this every year but I've heard they do) and they dub the game "The Soul Bowl."

[scooter!]

I think the East Texas rivalries are probably the best in the state right now in a few classifications.

Lufkin-Longview has been lopsided towards the Panthers lately as far as win-loss, but every game has been very close (painfully close if you are a Longview supporter).

Tyler Lee-Lufkin has also been a great series lately.

Port Neches Groves-Nederland is one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned. Two of the best fan bases in the state, and two close proximity Triangle towns.

Bay City and La Marque are natural rivals based on location and the fact they've both won state titles recently.

26-5A has good rivalries of course.

One of the best non-Texas rivalries I've seen is Miami Northwestern vs. Miami Central. The Miami city schools in Florida really have some heated rivalries. Northwestern and Central played their regular season game in the Orange Bowl a few years back (not positive if they do this every year but I've heard they do) and they dub the game "The Soul Bowl."I didn't mention PN-G vs. Nederland because it's more than a rivalry. They really don't like each other. Things get serious in this game.

I did forget to put one though......


TJ vs. Lincoln---------2 P.A. schools that closed along with my alma mater S.F.A. The last game extra police had to be called. There were fights starting in August that led all the way up to that Friday night. very serious. those 2 teams and schools just couldn't get along that football season (2001)

[SummitGrad04]

because its in the middle of oak cliff/ south dallas
thats why extra police are called in lol
we went out to kimballs field to play carter last year though, and the people were really nice, so idk
Oak Cliff and South Dallas are not as bad as people make them out to be.

[SVend43]

The rival of the SA area has got to be Smithso Valley and Judson. Two powerhouses like that playing on the same field just turns them into rival. Same thing with Southlake and lufkin

[Rerun]

Schertz Clemens vs. Judson is more storied rivalry than SV vs. Judson

[dragonsdaddy]

didn't s-c just recently, like 2-3 years ago move up to 5a.? did they play the monster that was judson before that?

[Rerun]

Clemens made the move to 5A 5 years ago. And prior to that,they were rivals with Judson back in the 80's. The schools have always hated each other. It is a rivalry that is second to none.

[Rerun]

2000 - Judson 28 Clemens 16 - Buffs blow a 16-0 half time lead

2001 - Judson 48 Clemens 42 3OT - Triple OT, ENOUGH SAID

2002 - Judson 14 Clemens 13 - Clemens missed a key extra point to take the loss

2003 - Clemens 26 Judson 21 - Clemens shuts out Judson in the seocnd half after trailing 21-7. Buffs hold Judson to negative years total offense in second half.

2004 - Judson 31 Clemens 0 - First round of play offs. Judson shows total dominance over Clemens.

[CoppellCowboy57]

Heres another one of Coppells

Coppell vs Duncanville...

Coppell has upset Duncanville the past three years...last year by far the best

Duncanville finished the regular season 8-2 losses coming to Desoto, and Coppell

Coppell finished 4-6

We beat them 14-13 in a great amazing game

[AtownEagle06]

Back when McKinney was a formidible 5A team a big rivalry was there between Allen and McKinney for the Battle of the Sledge, I dunno how this tradition started but McKinney took it a lot more serious than anyone in Allen did. Recently, it's been a lot of PESH and Allen but with the way the contests have been one-sided between the two (in Allen's favor) it looks like Plano West could be the new rival for Allen after their surprising District Championship last year.

[Favpack]

Laredo United vs Laredo United South (The who really cares bowl) :)

Seriously, does it get any better than Abilene High vs. Abilene Cooper?? :eek:
Northside of the tracks vs. Southside of the tracks. Good vs. evil. Just razzing you Cougar fans..

I'd have to agree - the Lil' SWC takes it IMO - the old days when the last district game was

Cooper vs. AHS
OHS vs. Permian
Lee vs. MHS

Of course, now that there is parity in the district - it's much more fun.

Those Garland games have got to be up there pretty high too.

Longview vs. Lufkin is pretty intense - but I think we like each other too much to call it a bitter rivalry. :)

[MojoRaiderPower]

I'd have to agree - the Lil' SWC takes it IMO - the old days when the last district game was

Cooper vs. AHS
OHS vs. Permian
Lee vs. MHS

Of course, now that there is parity in the district - it's much more fun.

Those Garland games have got to be up there pretty high too.

Longview vs. Lufkin is pretty intense - but I think we like each other too much to call it a bitter rivalry. :)


Don't forget, Odessa Permian vs. Midland Lee

[TheDuke]

OLDEST:

PERMIAN vs. LEE


NEWEST:

WOODZ vs. PACK
SHORE vs. WESTFIELD

LET'S GET IT ON!!! 2005 SEASON!!

[Red Raiders]

OLDEST:

PERMIAN vs. LEE


NEWEST:

WOODZ vs. PACK
SHORE vs. WESTFIELD

LET'S GET IT ON!!! 2005 SEASON!!

Which Lee? I hate when people say just Lee because I don't know what your talking about, man wth. There is couple Lee school in Texas.

Shore vs Westfield would be a good game.

[scooter!]

OLDEST:

PERMIAN vs. LEE


NEWEST:

WOODZ vs. PACK
SHORE vs. WESTFIELD

LET'S GET IT ON!!! 2005 SEASON!!
PACK will mop up Ol' Abe's grass with yall. :D

[CCHS77]

Oak Cliff and South Dallas are not as bad as people make them out to be.


Parts of Oak Cliff and South Dallas are not as bad as people make them out to be!

[PaulinPlano]

Back when McKinney was a formidible 5A team a big rivalry was there between Allen and McKinney for the Battle of the Sledge, I dunno how this tradition started but McKinney took it a lot more serious than anyone in Allen did. Recently, it's been a lot of PESH and Allen but with the way the contests have been one-sided between the two (in Allen's favor) it looks like Plano West could be the new rival for Allen after their surprising District Championship last year.

Allen vs. Plano East has been a good rivalry the past few years. Plano East's coaching has changed a bit and they have struggled and Plano West is coming on. A better traditional rivalry is Plano East - Plano. Plano has been down the past few years but hopefully the 7 time State Champion will make a comeback at some point. For years, that use to be THE game in Collin County. Clark Stadium packed with 14000+ screaming fans.

[farmerfan]

Right now it is not regarded as one of the best, but my favorite rivalry in Texas has to be, Lewisville-Plano, Plano leads the series by a pretty wide margin, but these two schools have had some great football games, both are rich in tradition, and both have played a similar form of football for the past 100years.
Celina-Pilot Point is another great football rivalry.

[I heard that]

Biggest rivalry in texas barnun is my "home-town" rivalry Ridge vs. Keller, how could any rivalry be better?

[htownfootball]

houston area rivalries

la marque vs. bay city- winner of this one wins the 4A state championship

katy vs. katy taylor- not so much competitive anymore but this one sparks heat amongst neighbors in katy, texas.

elsik vs. hastings- the community of alief outside of houston is literally divided at crump stadium. the schools share a whole city block, not to mention classrooms and parking lots so this rivalry is intense.

bellaire vs. lamar- getting better but means a lot inside of the city.

memorial vs stratford- sam houston tollroad 8 divides these two schools but when they clash deciding the 18-5A champ it means alot to these kids.

[BIG FIRM]

klein vs. the woodlands 17-14 a new streak maybe.

[tailgater]

The Woodlands vs. North Shore.

Championship game of '03 - was the start of a "rivalry". They haven't played as many games to make it a "rivalry" - but I can bet that the game scheduled for this year (At the woodlands) - will be standing room only.

[Bootsdaddy]

Lufkin-Longview

Lufkin-Tyler Lee

Longview-Marshall

Longview-Tyler Lee

Diboll-Crockett

Newton-Jasper

Marshall-Kilgore

Diboll-Hudson (fierce rivalry in basketball, Hudson doesnt play football, Diboll might as well not play baseball)

[dragonfootballfan]

I'm curious...who do the Dragon fans think of as their rivals? Lufkin, Longview, Katy, and maybe even Abilene?
That is a good question. Carroll has moved up in classification so fast that they really have not had that much time to develope regional rivalries. The one constant over the past few years is Carroll would play Coppell and it would always be a close game. Even though the series favors Carroll by a large margin, Coppell usually gives the Dragons a lot of problems. I don't think that I will ever forget Coppell beating Carroll at the old Dragon Stadium in 1999 and making the Dragons miss the playoffs. Also the people of Coppell and Southlake do not generally like each other, or atleast this is my personal experience

[pack0808]

I think the East Texas rivalries are probably the best in the state right now in a few classifications.

Lufkin-Longview has been lopsided towards the Panthers lately as far as win-loss, but every game has been very close (painfully close if you are a Longview supporter).

Tyler Lee-Lufkin has also been a great series lately.

Port Neches Groves-Nederland is one I'm surprised hasn't been mentioned. Two of the best fan bases in the state, and two close proximity Triangle towns.

Bay City and La Marque are natural rivals based on location and the fact they've both won state titles recently.

26-5A has good rivalries of course.

One of the best non-Texas rivalries I've seen is Miami Northwestern vs. Miami Central. The Miami city schools in Florida really have some heated rivalries. Northwestern and Central played their regular season game in the Orange Bowl a few years back (not positive if they do this every year but I've heard they do) and they dub the game "The Soul Bowl."



i agree with kt but i am biased. lufkin longview is usually a war even though lufkin has won 10 in a row most are close. not all of those have been close though kt. lufkin won a couple of easy ones vs the lobos in that stretch including a game in 2001 and the home game in 2003 when they were up 35-7 before putting the subs in the 4th quarter. longview scored 2 late td's against lufkin's 2nd and 3rd stringers to make it 35-21. tyler lee and lufkin is almost always close also. those 2 have had great battles lately and the series is very even in the last 4 or 5 years. lufkin has won the last 2 but both could have gone either way.

[SummitGrad04]

Parts of Oak Cliff and South Dallas are not as bad as people make them out to be!
My point is, people make always talk about their games being dangerous when you are actually more likely to get injured at the Grand Prarie-South Grand Prarie game.

[scooter!]

i agree with kt but i am biased. lufkin longview is usually a war even though lufkin has won 10 in a row most are close. not all of those have been close though kt. lufkin won a couple of easy ones vs the lobos in that stretch including a game in 2001 and the home game in 2003 when they were up 35-7 before putting the subs in the 4th quarter. longview scored 2 late td's against lufkin's 2nd and 3rd stringers to make it 35-21. tyler lee and lufkin is almost always close also. those 2 have had great battles lately and the series is very even in the last 4 or 5 years. lufkin has won the last 2 but both could have gone either way.
In '01 you could have called the game off after the first 5 minutes. I was outside the gate at 7:34, I remember this like yesterday, all of a sudden the crowd goes wild. I go into the game at like maybe 7:50ish the score is 7-0 Reggie's leading them down field to score again. Right there I missed the game...LOL I thought it was gonna be a tougher game since Longview had Marvin Brydsong. Guess I wasn't right on that one.

[c-lisle]

I guess there are no Longview people on the board this time of year. A rivalry that would challenge any is Longview vs. Marshall. The record of games between these two teams goes back to 1909, and it is believed that they have been playing each other for longer than that. I can't remember the record, but I believe Longview holds the lead by 5 or 6 games. That is a TRUE rivalry!

[CoppellCowboy57]

what about Euless Trinty and LD Bell

[scooter!]

I think SLC vs. Sloppell is a good one...LOL J/K :D

[LPMOM]

lufkin vs. slc, not a lot of hate involved just a good rivalry

lufkin vs. klien, can't stand klien!!! tried to make friendly talk at a track meet in waco and they were very rude and talked a lot of noise. had the nerve to say at least now they wouldn't have to meet lufkin after they won district (like they were really gonna win district now lufkin was in there :rolleyes: )

back in the day killeen and temple was the big rivalry, and yes they called in extra police for that one! because if we didn't beat temple on the field we would just beat them up after the game :D

killeen vs. ellison, but it's no fun to beat them anymore because ellison is so sorry.

LUFKIN vs. KATY!!! even though we LOVE each other :D

[BIG FIRM]

well have no clue about who's gonna win district next yr. prolly lufkin you shouldnt hate them just because of the crazy shiat i pulled. boy people in klein flipped out over that the booster club jumped me on that lol. :eek:
but oh well ya klein has alot of rich stuck up people that's prolly why u didnt get along with them at the track meet. im from garland i noticed the change in people when i moved here. at home games the away crowds are louder than our home crowd, and our fans dont even stand up half the time im standing up tryin to get people started or (crunk as we called it in garland) not workin in this lil city. :mad: but oh well college is comin up maybe it will be more enthusiastic. i know in garland like 15,000 peeps showed up for the south vs. garland game. our stadium in klein only holds 5,000 total. it's sad :(

[TheDuke]

PACK will mop up Ol' Abe's grass with yall. :D

You said the same thing last year about PA @ Spring & when Pack came to our house! Think you should think about things before you say them Scoot!!
:confused:

[TheDuke]

Which Lee? I hate when people say just Lee because I don't know what your talking about, man wth. There is couple Lee school in Texas.

Shore vs Westfield would be a good game.

That would be Midland Lee!

[scooter!]

You said the same thing last year about PA @ Spring & when Pack came to our house! Think you should think about things before you say them Scoot!!
:confused:
We lost by only 2. we didn't get blown out.

[0487]

since I am ancient school it seems that any school versus KATY TIGERS is a Rivalry. HISD , GPisd ,Cisd , LPisd , Aisd , Aisd ,and ETC.

[LD Bell Blue Raiders]

Our Rivalry with Trinity packs Pennington Field's capacity of 10,000 beyond the max. The visitor side which is 3 times smaller than the home side is jam packed from end zone to end zone but the home side is full as well. Every year the intensity grows. Our three teams, Sophomore Team, Junior Varsity, and the Varsity are a combined 0-20-1 since 1998. That tie was our Junior Varsity I was a part of this past year in 2004, in a very very intense game even though it was just JV. I would say about 2,500 were in the stadium for it(compared to the usual 500 for a JV Game). We took an early 13-0 lead, but Trinity recovered 3(count it: 3) onside kicks in a row and got 2 hit the kicker penalties in their favor to extend it to 27-13 with 1:58 left, and they had the ball. But we somehow stripped the ball, scored on a 4th and long hail mary, got the onside kick, scored again on another 3rd and long hail mary and got the 2 point conversion to tie it at 27 with 12 seconds left. Great game even though it was just JV.

Even though the varsity have lost 7 years in a row, with the changes in our program we are extremely confident that we can take on Trinity this year and bring them down to end 7 years of misery and torture. I don't know where it ranks but our rivalry is pretty huge. Even though it got ruined a bit with the schedule makers not making it be the last game.

[Chief Wahoo]

Our Rivalry with Trinity packs Pennington Field's capacity of 10,000 beyond the max. The visitor side which is 3 times smaller than the home side is jam packed from end zone to end zone but the home side is full as well.

I have always heard about L. D. Bell's awesome band- just wondering, do you guys always win the halftime show or does Trinity have an awesome band as well? ;)

[LP-79]

I for one am hoping LP plays SLC again this year. Means both teams will be playing in December. :) IMHO this is turning into one of the better playoff rivalaries. If they meet a trip to the state finals is on the line, so both teams go all out. Great fan support on both sides, LOUD LOUD LOUD. Nobody sits down for long! It is what Texas High School Football is all about. One east Texas rivalry I have not seen on here is Garrison vs. Teneha. The Attoyac river shootout. Heck they even make shirts for this one!

[farmerfan]

I stated this a wihle back, some might not like the comparisons, but LP-SLC is starting to look a lot like the old Plano-Permian rivalry of the past. Those two schools played some great football games against each other, even though Permian never beat Plano, you knew when those two teams met it was a war. Lufkin-Southlake have a lot of similarities in that when they meet it is in the semis and comes down to the wire, I for one would not mind seeing those two teams get together once again, as I had a blast last year in Waco.

[dragonsdaddy]

ff, you are pretty dang close. the plano permian games held a lot of mystique due to their traditions. lp and slc are heading down the same paths and their games have been 2 of the better games ever played. i vote these teams get together again this year as waco in december is a great place to be.

[LoneStarProud]

I agree. The LP-SLC games have been so intense. IMHO this match up
is one of mutual respect. Not a whole lot of smash mouth but rather a
healthy high school match up that from what I have seen rivals some of
the greatest play-off games in the state. Of course I'm not down on the field
to see the real stuff going on, but as a spectator both sides seem to
be a classy program with great fans. Fun Fun Fun :D

[LP-79]

Yea I still remember Javorski Lane at the end of the game. Played his heart out, after the last play he layed on field dejected. Probably shed a few tears. When he got back to the Lufkins bench # 43 from SLC meet him. Gave him a big hug, Looked like they said a prayer together. Then they both went out and both teams were congradulating each other. Both teams left it all out on field during game. They do not hate each other. They do respect the heck out of each other!

[dragonsdaddy]

the player that went to jlane was prolly our ml, #33 benoist. they and the other lbs had a for sure battle on their hands with the big guy. i am hoping he has a bang up career and will be on the board about 4 years from now.

[LD Bell Blue Raiders]

Our band tells us how Trinity's band sucks

[AHS Mustangs]

The Aldine/Eisenhower game became a huge rivalry in the early 90s. IKE beat Aldine for the first time in the schools history in 93, and ever since then the games have been close. The score since 95 has never been more than a 7 point difference. In 98 Aldine won 6-5, what a score (IKE missed a field goal with 10 sec left). In 99 IKE won 7-6 (Aldine missed a field goal with 5 sec left). Aldine hasn't been doing so hot in the rivalry, but like I said, the score hasn't been more than 7 point difference.

[CCDawgs05]

Copperas Cove vs. Waco

&

Copperas Cove vs. Killeen Shoemaker (new one because of all the things that have happened in other sports including a slight brawl with them at the district track meet)

[CoppellCowboy57]

what about Piolet Point and Celina?

Does anyone know how the Coppell vs. Southlake rivalry started?

[dragonsdaddy]

have been playing since slc came on line in 63 and both teams were class b, one horse schools. used to have to open several gates to get to either school.

[lonny23]

what about Piolet Point and Celina?

Does anyone know how the Coppell vs. Southlake rivalry started?
I think Pilot Point and Celina were seeing who could cheat the most. They even competed for the coach. He shouldn't be able to have 2 girlfriends! :D

[sltnusmc]

I encourage all of you to come to Dist 3-5A on any Friday night. Competition is very high.

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

Great east texas rivalries
Lufkin vs. Nac-oldest rivalry in texas (they have been playin since 1909 or 1910) and there have been things done by one school to the other
Lufkin vs Lonview-(its been one sided for a while but almost every year a trip to playoffs or a district title were on the line...until last year when we only meet in scrimages and the playoffs
Lufkin vs. Tyler Lee-their is a lot of tension between these schools (lufkin fans will remember the 10/31/97 fight at abe martin...we lost the game though)
Longview vs Marshall-a good game up until about 98 or 99 now its not as great as lufkin vs longview or luf-nac
Tyler Lee vs. John Tyler-the winner is the best team in tyler...which has been lee for the past few years

[Carter Cowboy]

Typically, in the D/FW area, Dallas and Oak Cliff are seen as being dangerous, and not only do they bring extra police in for the rivalry game, there are many police there for every game. Also, when they travel there are extra police. South Oak Cliff can be a scary place, or so it is said.


This all very interesting come from someone who has probably never spent more than a few hours at a time in Oak Cliff or South Oak Cliff.....But to dispell in myths, Extra police are called in at almost in intense rivalry, and The Carter/Kimball game is no exception. The atmosphere of the game is great and problems only arise when stupidity meets opportunity! This happens everywhere all the time. So in short, this game IS NOT DANGEROUS!!
Garland can be a scary place too ..."or so it is said"... :)

[sltnusmc]

Miland Lee v. Permian

Abilene v. Abilene Cooper

Plainview v. Hereford

Lubbock v. Lubbock Monterey

Just a few of the ones I grew up watching

[battlin'bulldawgs]

Temple and Belton. Last year temple was 2-7 and belton was 0-9 goin into the game. Hell of a game goin to temple

[pack4life]

Great east texas rivalries
Lufkin vs. Nac-oldest rivalry in texas (they have been playin since 1909 or 1910) and there have been things done by one school to the other
Lufkin vs Lonview-(its been one sided for a while but almost every year a trip to playoffs or a district title were on the line...until last year when we only meet in scrimages and the playoffs
Lufkin vs. Tyler Lee-their is a lot of tension between these schools (lufkin fans will remember the 10/31/97 fight at abe martin...we lost the game though)
Longview vs Marshall-a good game up until about 98 or 99 now its not as great as lufkin vs longview or luf-nac
Tyler Lee vs. John Tyler-the winner is the best team in tyler...which has been lee for the past few years


Wow.. if you think the Lufkin .vs. nac rivalry is still good, its time to put down the bottle and head to the rehab center :p

[businesstron]

This all very interesting come from someone who has probably never spent more than a few hours at a time in Oak Cliff or South Oak Cliff.....But to dispell in myths, Extra police are called in at almost in intense rivalry, and The Carter/Kimball game is no exception. The atmosphere of the game is great and problems only arise when stupidity meets opportunity! This happens everywhere all the time. So in short, this game IS NOT DANGEROUS!!
Garland can be a scary place too ..."or so it is said"... :)

Oak CLiff ain't that bad I was up there every weekend in the spring my seinor year. I don't know how I didn't ever get to go to the Oak Cliff Super Bowl..
South Dallas though is another thing though it reminds me a lot of South Monroe La. I remember visting my girl over there and I got lost(this was 10:00 saturday night) I pulled into a Car wash(it was crowded) to get directions and the dude was cool(he had some glowing caps in his mouth). But parts of South Dallas are just too crunk sometimes it's worse then Oak Cliff.
But Rivalries

Duncanville vs Desoto
Duncanville vs Ceadar Hill(It's getting better every year FOotball and Basketball)
Sherman-Denison(decent).
Ducanville vs Euless Trinity(we play em just about every year at one time or
another)

[Texas Hammer]

You guys left off what may be the biggest rivalry of all. The crosstown and district games are great, but I have to go with the military rivalry:

San Antonio Cole vs. Universal City Randolph. They're always in the same district, both make the playoffs in most sports and best of all, it's the Army school vs. the Air Force school. As much respect as I have for the Army, Navy, and Marines, I HATE to see them beat the Air Force at anything. I don't care if it's the Academies playing for the Commander in Chief's Trophy or boxing.

Stephenville-Brownwood is a good out of town rivalry, too. The Pittsburg-Mt. Pleasant-Daingerfield triangle had some intense games in the past. I really hated Paris and Sulphur Springs when I was in school.

[wide-e-wide]

You hate to see the Navy beat the Air Force at anything?
The Navy is undefeated in competitive power drinking. I helped
keep that tradition alive and well during my 6 years in...
I was only stationed on one base that had Air Force personnel...
so I don't know how much they drink. It was a training command
and they were given specific instructions to stay away from the
Sailors and Marines.
All we wanted was designated drivers...c'mon.

[dentonRYAN]

some one wrote "southlake carroll vs denton ryan" .... um... not really a rivalry considering one team has never beat the other team....

and 10/17/05 in Denton.... will probably be the last time in a long time that they will ever play together.... D Ryan is going down to 4A in 06-07 with the addition of another school in Denton...

I think that after a few more years.... southlake will have so many people that they will move up to 6A.... and be the only team there...

[myround0]

I'm curious...who do the Dragon fans think of as their rivals? Lufkin, Longview, Katy, and maybe even Abilene?

I think it is quite clear the one pairing that will get people to choose sides is Lufkin vs. Longview. You always talk about matching up some of the nation's best against these two teams and Longview has done really well outside the state, while lufkin has managed to own about every team in the state with the exception of SLC. SlC's record makes them really a none talk when it comes to having a rival. They are like winners of every 5A game they have played and one. So they really done have a rival yet, until they meet Longview. And, yes Lufkin has had their way with Longview, but Lufkin fans know the entire series is still in our favor. Lee is a hot 5A east texas team with some skills. But, right now, on a state level, it has to be Longview-Lufkin, yes we all want SLC to come back down to earth, but year in and year out the biggest game and the hottest rival is the one Longview has with Lufkin. This is why Lufkin, Longview, Lee, John Tyler, SLC, The Woodlands and Denton Ryan, should all be in the same division, 1-5A

[pack0808]

I think it is quite clear the one pairing that will get people to choose sides is Lufkin vs. Longview. You always talk about matching up some of the nation's best against these two teams and Longview has done really well outside the state, while lufkin has managed to own about every team in the state with the exception of SLC. SlC's record makes them really a none talk when it comes to having a rival. They are like winners of every 5A game they have played and one. So they really done have a rival yet, until they meet Longview. And, yes Lufkin has had their way with Longview, but Lufkin fans know the entire series is still in our favor. Lee is a hot 5A east texas team with some skills. But, right now, on a state level, it has to be Longview-Lufkin, yes we all want SLC to come back down to earth, but year in and year out the biggest game and the hottest rival is the one Longview has with Lufkin. This is why Lufkin, Longview, Lee, John Tyler, SLC, The Woodlands and Denton Ryan, should all be in the same division, 1-5A


no myround you are wrong lufkin fans do not know the entire series is in longview's favor. lufkin leads the overall series by 1!!

[wide-e-wide]

Dang it!!!!
You beat me to it every stinkin' time I swear...
I was just about to smash...

[dragonfootballfan]

some one wrote "southlake carroll vs denton ryan" .... um... not really a rivalry considering one team has never beat the other team....

and 10/17/05 in Denton.... will probably be the last time in a long time that they will ever play together.... D Ryan is going down to 4A in 06-07 with the addition of another school in Denton...

I think that after a few more years.... southlake will have so many people that they will move up to 6A.... and be the only team there...
First of all I think that Denton Ryan vs. SLC can be considered a rival just after last year. Both teams are so much a like and all the hoopla that sorrounded last game made for a really exciting atmosphere. Second of all Southlake is very close to being built out and they are still one of the smaller 5A schools that there is. I don't understand how you think they are going to be so big

[vonfore]

I dont know what the "best" rivarly in Texas is since there are so many of them right now. Some of them are historically significant and date 80 or 90 plus years. Some of them have been more recent playoff rivalries and some of the long series rivalries have been very lopsided lately, but still classify as a rivalry game.

Right now, I would have to say the most exciting rivarly game has to be Lufkin vs Tyler Lee, since both of those schools have been so good as of late, and both of them have had deep playoff runs. The rivalries that have been going on for a while are still top rival games in their respective areas (Abilene/Abilene Cooper, Midland Lee/Permian, Atlanta/Queen City, Garrison/Tenaha, Nederland/PNG, LaMarque/Texas City, Bay City/El Campo, etc), but dont get much attention state wide.

Since I live in the Houston area, I can only comment on what really happens down this way. In my opinion, here are the top Houston area rivalries:

LaMarque/Texas City ...these two Galveston county towns, seperated by a railroad track, absolutely hate each other more than you can imagine. The football games the last few years have been classic, and the trash talk among the fans, who work in the chemical industry, and on the internet, have been epic

Bay City/El Campo....an old rivarly, dating back to the 1920's, the two towns literally close down when these two meet during the season...Bay City has had their way lately with the Ricebirds, but these schools and towns hate each other like the Red Sox and the Yankees.

Eisenhower/Aldine..since the early 90's, this rivarly has been as intense as any in the Houston area, if not the state. Aldine was 20-0 vs Ike until Ike got their first victory over their district rival in 1993 and have won 9 of the 11 games since then to even out the series....Both of these schools produce numerous D-1 athletes every year, and both schools have had NFL players the last few years

Yates vs Madison, a rivarly that dates 40 plus years, these schools have played some classic regular season and playoff games over the years, and pack anywhere from 15k to 25k in the stands, depending on where they play. Madison handed Yates their worst ever defeat in 2001, when the Marlins, led by Vince Young, crushed Yates 64-14 in the first round of the playoffs. VY had 129 yds rushing and 116 yds passing and 5 total TD's.

Humble vs Katy, a cross-town rivarly featuring schools from opposite ends of Harris County (even though parts of Katy are in Fort Bend and Waller County as well), they have played seven straight years, with Katy owning a 6-1 record against the Wildcats...the best game they played was in the second game of the 2002 season. Humble was ranked #1 and was at home for this saturday night contest. the game went back and forth, and eventually went into overtime tied at 29. Humble scores first in the OT, kicks the XP...Katy scores on fourth and goal from the one, and goes for the win....scores on a two point conversion run..the crowd, which had to be about 15k fitted into a 10k stadium, went wild on the Katy side with all the Katy players running on the field celebrating.
Katy proved that win wasnt a fluke as they beat Humble in the third round of the playoffs later that year 24-7

Deer Park/LaPorte...those two eastern Harris County schools, in the shadow of the Houston ship channel absolutely loathe each other..they hate everything the other town stands for...Deer Park and their chemical plants...LaPorte and their plants and position off of Galveston Bay....these games are always hard hitting and very competetive

Forest Brook/Smiley...these two North Forest ISD rivals have played each other since 1973 and the Brook and the series was fairly competetive. The Brook has won 13 straight in this NE houston neighborhood rivalry that draws anywhere from 10-20K people and fills the stands at Jones Cowart Stadium.
This is more than a football game however, this is a major band battle at halftime every year and Smiley has the upper hand there lately.

Yates/Booker T Washington....just like Yates rivalry with Madison, this game normally goes down to the wire and has been very competetive lately. Like the Forest Brook/Smiley game, this is a game within a game, with the halftime battle between the two schools and their fans

Alief Elsik/Alief Hastings..the location of these two schools are just an amazing site to see .borded by High Star, Bellaire Blvd, Dairy Ashford and Cook Rd, these two schools share a whole city block in SW Houston, they also share one joint cafeteria, share some classroom space, practice fields and the like...just across High Star is Crump Stadium, where a number of classic games between these two schools have taken place...prior to the opening of Alief Taylor high school in 2002, everyone in Alief was either a Ram(Elsik) or Bear (hastings) and even brothers and sisters in the same household could have went to different schools....the height of their rivarly reached epic status in the mid to late 90's, and early 2000's when both schools were going deep into the playoffs and Hastings reached the 5A DII title game in 1999.

Tomball/Magnolia...these two neighbors are anything but friendly as they absolutely want to slaughter each other in any school sport...Tomball has had the better talent later, but Magnolia has played them neck to neck...Tomball opened a new high school building in 2002, and now Magnolia is opening a new high school in 2006, Magnolia West due to rapid growth in that area........

Cy Fair ISD schools (Cy Fair, Creek, Falls, Springs, Ridge, Jersey Village, Langham Creek) just beat the hell out of each other during every athletic season, but with new schools opening out there every three or four years in northwest Houston, these rivalries are starting to get a little more "personal" in nature.....Cy-Ridge shocked the rest of the brethen by going to the playoffs in the first varsity season last year with former Cy Falls and Jersey Vilage kids...New school, Cy Woods opens in August 2006


Klein vs Klein Forest vs Klein Oak vs Klein Collins.....the four Klien ISD schools...Collins is the newest school, going into their third year of varsity play, but they have the best talent and won the "championship" last year by beating the other three schools....Klein and K. Forest have put competetive teams on the field for the last few years, even though Forest has had the better of that series latetly, and Klein peaked in the late 90's when they went to the state semifinals behind Mike Green in 1998. Klein Oak is the "little sister" of the group and have been pretty bad on the football field lately, but they run the Wing-T offense, which is part of the reason

Westfield vs Spring...district rivals from the Spring ISD on the northside of Houston, these schools have played some classic games as of late. Westfield has had as much talent as any school in Houston, if not the state the last four years, and three of those years, Spring beat them in the final game and kept them out of the playoffs....Westfield put it all together last year and made a run to the D-1 title game, and I expect another slobber knocker coming up in November '05

New rivarlies that dont have years, but hype built up so far:

Westfield vs North Shore....Westfield punked the University of North Shore, as they like to call themselves, last year in the second round of the playoffs 63-7 and served notice that a changing of the guard was in order in the playoffs

Katy vs Cinco Ranch....Katy is everything that Cinco wishes they were...Cinco has had success in every sport since they've opened except football, and are 0-5 against Katy...this is a "green-eyed envy" series...Cinco highly jealous of the Katy football machine

Hightower vs Willowridge...these Fort Bend ISD rivals have met five times, all won by Hightower in games the feature extreme hitting and viciousness....Willowridge and Hightower led the houston area in total defense and fewest points allowed last year...

Marshall vs Willowridge...Fort Bend Marshall has only one varsity campaign under its belt, but big things are expected from the Buffalo campus....Willowridge felt threatned by their new counterpart, who are seperated by six miles off of FM 2234 in Missouri City, and took their frustrations out on Marshall last year by racing out to a 40-0 halftime lead and final in a game that featured six player ejections, numerous fights in the stands and a bunch of trash talking.....expect more of the same this year, but Marshall will get payback in a big way...

Alief Taylor vs Elkins and Hastings....once again, that green eyed monster rears its ugly head...Taylor is new campus out in Alief, and the Rams and Bears dont have much, if any respect, for the Lions.....all of the students at these schools can end up at the same middle school, but go to the high schools on a round robin formula...one to Elsik..one to Hastings, one to Taylor, second kid to Elsik, etc....so with Taylor having all the new facilities and up to date ammenities, a bunch of player hating is going on out in Alief

Westside vs Lamar....Westside, one of the newest high schools in HISD, seem to have an athletic pipeline due to their prime location in west Houston and HISD's open enrollment....some of Lamar's "hand picked" players end up at Westside, and that hasnt set too well with the suits over at Lamar's river oaks campus

PA Memorial vs Westfield...this should and will be a rivalry for the ages....PA Memorial won a classic game last year 48-41, after blowing a hugh lead..Jamal Charles had 400 yards rushing and 5 tds vs Westfield..look for Westfield to get a little payback this year.

Games I wish would I could to see:

Katy vs North Shore
Katy vs Westfield
Lukfin vs Westfield
Hightower vs Pearland
Hightower vs Cy-Falls
The Woodlands vs Katy
LaMarque vs Westfield

[dentonRYAN]

First of all I think that Denton Ryan vs. SLC can be considered a rival just after last year. Both teams are so much a like and all the hoopla that sorrounded last game made for a really exciting atmosphere. Second of all Southlake is very close to being built out and they are still one of the smaller 5A schools that there is. I don't understand how you think they are going to be so big

Southlake = small schools in 5A.... um... i dont think so....

Denton Ryan had 250+ less students last year.... and another 200 will be gone next year becasue of the new Denton school. Denton Ryan by the numbers would be considered 4A, but they have to wait until next year to change it. I think Ryan would be one of the smaller 5A schools and not Carroll....

[drgnbkr]

Southlake = small schools in 5A.... um... i dont think so....

Denton Ryan had 250+ less students last year.... and another 200 will be gone next year becasue of the new Denton school. Denton Ryan by the numbers would be considered 4A, but they have to wait until next year to change it. I think Ryan would be one of the smaller 5A schools and not Carroll....

Wrong again Raider-breath...Carroll was next to the smallest in our district..your Raiders being the only smaller school...

[dentonRYAN]

thats cuz our distric has huge schools like keller.... but look at the 5A schools you played in the playoffs and compare them to SLC

[pack0808]

hey vonfire lufkin and westfield did meet in 01 with lufkin winning a thriller in ot at the dome. man you do know the rivalries that is for sure.

[dragonsdaddy]

dryan, you need to check the uil or the dctf website and actually learn something about which you are espousing. we were smaller than all our opponents except dr and sv, which is about the same size. we actually could have gone big school if gv had made the po's instead of keller. our numbers are in the lower quarter of 5a schools, surprisingly enough.

[StormingCowboy]

because its in the middle of oak cliff/ south dallas
thats why extra police are called in lol
we went out to kimballs field to play carter last year though, and the people were really nice, so idk


In the past, there have been incidents between students of these two schools (Not necessarily at the varsity games but during the week of) and the extra security is for prevention, because if something were to happen at the varsity game it could get pretty ugly because of the huge crowd that this game draws.

As far as the game itself, the Oak CLiff Super Bowl haven't been played in Oak Cliff in four meetings. However since there is a new stadium across from Carter, I'm sure the Oak Cliff SuperBowl will come back to Oak Cliff. A few times in the past this game have been played at the Cotton Bowl.

I can remember back in the early 80s, where these two teams played and got into a fight during the game and both benches cleared. This rivalry has been heated for a while.

[PLAYMAKIN PANTHER]

Colleyville Heritage and Grapevine is always a good one, because for the past 5 years they have been around the same strengh when one team is good, the other team is, when one team sucks, the other one sucks

[Eagle81]

Laredo United vs Laredo United South (The who really cares bowl) :)

Seriously, does it get any better than Abilene High vs. Abilene Cooper?? :eek:
Northside of the tracks vs. Southside of the tracks. Good vs. evil. Just razzing you Cougar fans..

A couple of years ago AHS vs CHS was a battle between two top 5 teams.

[Texas Hammer]

To be a big rival, you need close proximity, some mutual likenesses or extreme differences, and more than just a handful of games. Calling a 1 or 2 game series a rivalry is ludicrous. It does no justice to the teams that really hate each other.

I'd buy off on Garrison-Teneha and a bunch of other one's that are listed before I'd ever agree on SLC-Ryan or SLC-Lufkin. That's why I didn't say Judson-SV. Judson-SV can be a rivalry if they keep playing every year. Marshall, Pine Tree and John Tyler are bigger all-time rivals for Longview than Lee or Lufkin have ever been.

[drgnbkr]

Sadly, rivalries come & go as teams go up and down...Carroll vs. Coppell was a rivalry for a while..Carroll won most of the time, but re-alignment split them up and it faded...

[Purple Haze]

To be a big rival, you need close proximity, some mutual likenesses or extreme differences, and more than just a handful of games. Calling a 1 or 2 game series a rivalry is ludicrous. It does no justice to the teams that really hate each other.

I'd buy off on Garrison-Teneha and a bunch of other one's that are listed before I'd ever agree on SLC-Ryan or SLC-Lufkin. That's why I didn't say Judson-SV. Judson-SV can be a rivalry if they keep playing every year. Marshall, Pine Tree and John Tyler are bigger all-time rivals for Longview than Lee or Lufkin have ever been.

Well said and of course true. That why it's hard to argue against the West Texas schools that have been playing each other every year for 45-50 years not being the truest of rivalry games. You just don't understand unless you experience it. :cool: :cool:

[BAMF cowboy]

Southlake = small schools in 5A.... um... i dont think so....

Denton Ryan had 250+ less students last year.... and another 200 will be gone next year becasue of the new Denton school. Denton Ryan by the numbers would be considered 4A, but they have to wait until next year to change it. I think Ryan would be one of the smaller 5A schools and not Carroll....

If Southlake was so huge how come we've been Div II past 3 years?

Also earlier in the thread, someone asked about who our rival is?

I would have to agree with another poster, i forget who, and say Coppell. For as long as I remember we've played Coppell every season. And having changed classifications, and districts, there hasnt really been a chance to build a big rivalry. Grapevine is somewhat a rivalry to us, but we hadnt played them our first 2 years of 5A. It's also lost some of the mystique since the game is so one sided, and grapevine doesnt seem to really care. At least with Coppell they are there hating us every step of the way.

I believe last year's meeting against Denton Ryan was the first between the two schools. I dont think this game can be considered a rivalry, but more of just a big game.

Keller is a school that loves to hate us. But for some reason we just hate Coppell and Grapevine more.

Finally, although there has only been 2 meetings, I have to say Carroll vs. Lufkin is a game everyone looks forward to. I know earlier I said Ryan cant really be considered a rival, they didnt produce a game that Lufkin does. I think everyone in Southlake wouldnt mind playing Lufkin game, because it's gonna be a no doubt thriller.

In a related topic, I'm still waiting for a rematch with Katy! As I'm sure SV is with us!