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TheDuke
04-07-2005, 03:13 PM
Is there ever gonna be a Playoff System in College Football? Does anyone have any ideas how it can work? Vote to see if your for it or against it!
some one had a good idea about a playoff system a while back on this boards..something to the effect that they keep all the same bowl games but take the 2 top Bowl games and make a national championship game...If im not mistaken I think it started out just like the basketball brackets...
im all for a playoff system
GTown02
04-07-2005, 05:15 PM
some one had a good idea about a playoff system a while back on this boards..something to the effect that they keep all the same bowl games but take the 2 top Bowl games and make a national championship game...If im not mistaken I think it started out just like the basketball brackets...
im all for a playoff system
Isnt that BCS+1 that they are trying to come up with... having the top 2 BCS bowls, and the winners play each other for National Championship right?
I could be wrong...
TheDuke
04-07-2005, 05:29 PM
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA! Just have the top 4 teams have a Playoff! Good idea, I would go with that!
pack4life
04-07-2005, 07:47 PM
IMO that is usually where the problems are, in the 1-4 spots, i think that would be an awesome idea.
CoppellCowboy57
04-18-2005, 06:45 PM
16-0 is the vote lol
garlandowl08
04-18-2005, 07:19 PM
make that 17-0, the 4 top teams sounds good to me!
SummitGrad04
04-19-2005, 11:09 PM
Adding one game sounds like the best idea to me, but the NCAA will never go for that. They'll come up with some excuse about an extra game interfering with the players' class schedule......I still don't understand what the NCAA's aversion to a playoff system is.
dragonsdaddy
04-20-2005, 09:37 AM
4 teams is twice as good, but thank goodness the hs playoffs don't use that syastem.
TheDuke
04-20-2005, 10:53 AM
Keep them coming guys! I am gonna send this over to the BCS someday!!! :D :D :D
dragonsdaddy
04-20-2005, 11:06 AM
trons are cheap. don't cut down any trees to send this opinion, however.
Texas Hammer
05-14-2005, 07:52 AM
All this missing school stuff against playoffs is a farce. They miss a lot of school during baskteball season and the tournament. Baseball plays games during the week, too. The problem is the athletic departments get a lot of money from the bowls and they look at the bottom line in cashflow. We need a 16 team bracket for the title because it would end up being a 1 mistake season for everybody and some of the 1-loss teams will probably miss out.
A 16 team tournament takes 4 weeks, which is what you have between the last games of the season and the start of the new year. People don't got to school at least 3 of those weeks.
lonny23
05-14-2005, 08:55 AM
All this missing school stuff against playoffs is a farce. They miss a lot of school during baskteball season and the tournament. Baseball plays games during the week, too. The problem is the athletic departments get a lot of money from the bowls and they look at the bottom line in cashflow. We need a 16 team bracket for the title because it would end up being a 1 mistake season for everybody and some of the 1-loss teams will probably miss out.
A 16 team tournament takes 4 weeks, which is what you have between the last games of the season and the start of the new year. People don't got to school at least 3 of those weeks.
You can't have these college players out there for 16 games a season. It's OK for pro's to play 16 games, but not college guys. Wait, they ARE pro's! :rolleyes:
Personally, I'd like to see a playoff system, too.
dragonsdaddy
05-15-2005, 10:38 AM
yeah, some of these college kids from texas are probably too tired from having played 16 games annually while in hs.
Texas Hammer
05-15-2005, 04:18 PM
yeah, some of these college kids from texas are probably too tired from having played 16 games annually while in hs.
If they're smart they can accomplish the same results in 15 games. Work smarter, not harder! :p
dragonsdaddy
05-16-2005, 09:24 AM
smart? the kids or the ncaa?
lonny23
05-16-2005, 08:13 PM
smart? the kids or the ncaa?
He means the kids. Not all of them have to play 16 games to win state.
dragonsdaddy
05-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Not sure, but I'd be willing to bet it's still better than Keller:D Sorry un-called for but... if the shoe fits.
talk about faint praise.
big red & cujo
05-18-2007, 08:56 PM
i voted no. the reason is if you really think about it. you can say that the top 8 or 10 can play in a playoff format. but the same problems would occur. before the playoff format teams were arguing about how they should have been #2 so they could play in the championship. ok after the playoff format you would have the #11 and 12 teams arguing about how they should have made the playoffs. you would basically have the same problem. the bcs should stay intact.
USC_Ray
05-18-2007, 09:04 PM
playoffs?...I wouldn't introduce one into CFB.. simply because I like what it brings to the Ranking atomsphere...week in and week out, the polls change, upsets here and there.... Every game counts..one loss could get u out of the NCG... plus the number of schools would just make things more complicated....
Honestly, I do not have enough faith in college football for them to have a small playoff system. I think they either have to go to 12 or 16, neither of which will ever happen, to make it a fair system. For instance, last year, a two loss USC team which just lost its last game to a low ranked UCLA team would have gotten in a four team playoff and Boise State would not have. Is that fair? A four team playoff is pointless because it will still exclude any non-BCS team, just like now. So what's the point?
If there is to be a true playoff, it needs to be 10+ teams. All D1-A conference champions, and a couple at large teams. How many at large depends on how easy they want the bracketology to work.
The biggest part of making it "true" is including every conference champion in D1-A. Any playoff that purposefully excludes almost half of D1-A is no better then the BCS sham we have now.
or maybe a 16 team playoff
16 team playoff system
11 Conf champs
Then the top 5 non conf champ - by BCS standings (4 if a iND is not one of the 5 top teams after removing the conf champs but are at least #16 or higher (before the removal of the conf champs) and/or higher ranking then 3 or more of the conf champions - then top 4 plus the iND would round out the 16 teams)
All times listed EST
Conf championship games can be played the Friday after Thanksgiving and the Saturday after Thanksgiving is the Army/Navy game.
Then let the games begin.
1st round (anywhere between Dec. 1 and Dec. 7 based on where Thanksgiving lands)
2 vs 15 in the Gator Bowl Noon Sat
7 vs 10 in the Peach Bowl 7pm Fri
3 vs 14 in the Liberty Bowl 4pm Sat
6 vs 11 in the Copper Bowl (Insight) Sat 8pm
5 vs 12 in the San Fran Bowl 10pm Fri
4 vs 13 in the Outback Bowl 7pm Sat
8 vs 9 in the Independence Bowl 3pm Sat
1 vs 16 in the Holiday Bowl 10pm Sat
2nd round (anywhere between Dec 7 and Dec 14
Winner 2/15 vs 7/10 in the Sun Bowl 3pm Sat
Winner 3/14 vs 6/11 in the Citrus Bowl 10pm Sat
Winner 5/12 vs 4/13 in the Cotton Bowl 7pm Sat
Winner 8/9 vs 1/16 in the Fiesta Bowl 9pm Fri
3rd round (anywhere between Dec 15th and 21st)
Winner Sun vs winner Citrus in the Sugar Bowl 8pm Sat
Winner Cotton vs winner Fiesta in the Orange Bowl 4pm Sat
Championship JAN 1st (unless Thanksgiving lands on Nov 24 then Jan 2nd Monday)
That gives about 2 weeks for the 2 team to get ready ? Christmas is off also)
Winner of Sugar vs winner of Orange in the ROSE BOWL 5pm
but again.. things get complicated within the college ranks...so i don't know
USC_Ray
05-18-2007, 09:07 PM
I voted no... just to clarify
slorch
05-18-2007, 10:07 PM
Playoffs are stupid.
signed,
Mark Cuban and Jeff Van Gundy
Texasfrog
05-19-2007, 12:16 AM
Is there ever gonna be a Playoff System in College Football? Does anyone have any ideas how it can work? Vote to see if your for it or against it!
I've stated for years now that they (NCAA) should take all the polls at the end up the regular season and come up with the "College Football Final Four" and have a playoff with just them.
#1 vs # 4 (#1 Homefield)
#2 vs # 3 (#2 Homefield)
Then the National Championship game can rotate with the BCS games each year.
Ya, teams #5 & #6 would complain but that's the breaks. Too be honest there is usually only 3 teams that have a really valid argument for playing for the National Title each year. The #4 team would almost be the "Wildcard" so to speak.
Than, all the other college Bowl games can still exist (ie. Cotton, Holiday, ect) and their fans would show up just like they always do.
PS. I also think that every D-1A Conference should have a Conference Title game or all the Conference's do away with them. It's unfair that some Conferences have an extra basically (playoff game) while others (Pac-10, Big-10) dont play them.
College Football Final Four..
BlackandRed05
05-19-2007, 12:41 AM
The playoff system should be the conference winners ( 11 ) then either 1 at large, or possibly go ahead and make 4 at large. Either a 12 or 16 team playoff system would be great.
SC606
05-20-2007, 10:53 PM
The playoff system should be the conference winners ( 11 ) then either 1 at large, or possibly go ahead and make 4 at large. Either a 12 or 16 team playoff system would be great.
I agree that you need to include all 11 conference champs. But I think that's all that should get in. Do away with any at-large bids--each conference decides how their conference champ is selected (playoff, round-robin, what to do if there's a tie, etc.). No beauty contest to see who the best second-place teams are. The only thing subjective is the seeding of the 11 (e.g., who gets a first-round bye). One nice benefit of this is that nonconference games have NO effect on your chances of playing for the national title, so maybe we'd get some great games rather than the big boys beating up the D1AA's.
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