Texas Tech vs Texas A&M game... to Dallas

[garlandredraider]

This talk about moving the Texas Tech vs Texas A&M game to Dallas is still among us. Word from the Tech fans is that it is almost posiitive that by 2009... when the new stadium is built, the game will be moved to Dallas... simular to what UT/OU has.

If you go to Raiderpower.com, you can see the links. Most Tech fans are not happy about it because Aggs have not won in Lubbock since 1993, and that game brings in so much to Lubbock that it is going to hurt not having the game in Lubbock every other year.

What do yall think... since I know there is alot of Aggs on here. I am a Tech student, and I am from Garland.... but I would not want the game moved there. Yeah it would help with recruiting, and alumni support, but losing the game at "The Jones" is just flat out dumb.

[garlandowl08]

I for one, being an Aggie also from garland, dont want to see the game go to Dallas because in 2009, i will be a fish/sophomore at A&M and the less traveling, the better (gas prices and what not). Plus I think OU and t.u. have something special in that they have the same sight every year. Overall, I vote nay.

[jtk1519]

When this first came about, the game was set to be played at the Cotton Bowl... not the new stadium in Arlington. The city of Dallas and the mayor are the ones that have really pushed this along. Reason being, if the Red River Shootout decides to relocate to JerryLand in Arlington, the city of Dallas still wants a big game (though not anywhere near what the RRS is) to be played at the Cotton Bowl during the state fair. The Tech/aggy game is a "plan B" in case the city cant convince the RRS to stay in Fair Park.

[Texasfrog]

When this first came about, the game was set to be played at the Cotton Bowl... not the new stadium in Arlington. The city of Dallas and the mayor are the ones that have really pushed this along. Reason being, if the Red River Shootout decides to relocate to JerryLand in Arlington, the city of Dallas still wants a big game (though not anywhere near what the RRS is) to be played at the Cotton Bowl during the state fair. The Tech/aggy game is a "plan B" in case the city cant convince the RRS to stay in Fair Park.

I couldnt see Tx A&M doing that.. Playing at Kyle Field is very tough and A&M would be losing that true homefield advantage. The upside for them is almost nothing. They dont have to really worry about recruiting Dallas/Ft.Worth kids either.

There is a big upside for Texas Tech... but not Tx A&M.

[jtk1519]

I couldnt see Tx A&M doing that.. Playing at Kyle Field is very tough and A&M would be losing that true homefield advantage. The upside for them is almost nothing. They dont have to really worry about recruiting Dallas/Ft.Worth kids either.

There is a big upside for Texas Tech... but not Tx A&M.

There's a huge upside for aggy... they dont have to worry about having their butts embarassed in Lubbock every other year.

[farmerfan]

I think jtk is right, the Ags want to avoid going to Lubbock at any chance possible, after the game this year, lets see if mr byrne decides if it is in the best interest of the ag program to move the game to Dallas, my guess is yes.

[garlandredraider]

Tech does not have a hard of time winning at Kyle than Aggs do at the Jones. Tech has won 7 of the last 10 games against the Aggs... so I would say there would be a bigger upside to A&M than to Tech.

[LarryFine]

It is just in the "What do you think?" phase and no where near close to a done deal. It is the Aggie AD who started the conversation. I don't see Tech agreeing to it because a lot of Aggies live in or around Lubbock and the game is a boost to Lubbock. It gives a lot of west Texas Aggies a chance to see a game every other year and spend money in Lubbock. Tech tried to get Oklahoma State to play every year in Texas Stadium, but they weren't interested for some unknown reason. Tech tried it again w/ LSU, who was hot for the idea, but their schedule was booked too far in advance.

In the end, this one will not pan out either. I don't know about A&M, but I'm sure a lot of Red Raiders are pounding Myers on this one right now.

Dallas is important to Tech for the recruiting and 35,000 alums, but the new luxury suites pretty much gurantee 6 games a season in Lubbock. Those are the reasons the schedule this year was revamped the way it was. Those suites pay for most the football scholarships, so the owners will be catered to.

[Texasfrog]

There's a huge upside for aggy... they dont have to worry about having their butts embarassed in Lubbock every other year.

I dont know..?? Looking at it on the surface I would say there isnt any upside for either team. Both would be losing a true "homefield advantage" every other year.

[Favpack]

TTech would be certifiably insane to agree to this - I don't care how much money is thrown out there - until A&M wins in Lubbock - assume they can't.

[jtk1519]

One of the biggest pluses for both schools would be recruiting. The Metroplex might be the biggest and best talent producing area in the nation and right now Tech and aggy are lagging way behind Texas and the land thieves when it comes to recruiting there. The RRS is a gold mine, win or lose, for UT and BlowU.

Larryfine is right... it is the aggy AD that started, and is pushing the hardest for the move to Dallas. Money being one of the biggest reasons. If a Tech/aggy game in Dallas is set up the same way the RRS is, each school will receive all the money for ticket sales every other year. That's a huge plus for Tech since such a game would draw 20,000-30,000 more fans that Jones can even seat. It's also more money for aggy. Yes, the Cotton Bowl is a bit smaller, but just compare ticket prices for a typical Texas game to what you will pay for a RRS ticket. Tickets for a Tech/aggy game in Dallas could sell for twice or three times what the tickets would sell for if the game was played at Pyle every other year meaning a lot more money.

[mtbray]

I for one, being an Aggie also from garland, dont want to see the game go to Dallas because in 2009, i will be a fish/sophomore at A&M and the less traveling, the better (gas prices and what not). Plus I think OU and t.u. have something special in that they have the same site every year. Overall, I vote nay.

So would you prefer going to Tech every other year for the game?



garlandredraider when did you graduate? What's your name?

[Firebird]

I think this is about the stupidest prop. the Red Raiders could possibly agree to, or even consider. If it happens, we'll have to retire aggie jokes for Red Raider jokes.

Its been how long since the Ags got a win in Lubbock? About 10 years, if memory serves me right. I don't care how many Tech grads live in DFW... there are always gonna be more Ags at a game in Dallas. Plus, it's a lot further from Lubbock to Dallas, than from Aggieland. If you're Tech, you are basically saying--- hey aggie, why don't you go ahead and grab PERMANENT home field advantage.

Please, Please, Please Gerald Myers-- open your eyes and say NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!

[ktchamp97]

If this were just about football, Tech would be nuts to move the game...but as we know...there are probably many other factor$ affecting their decision proce$$.

[Firebird]

True, KTChamp, but even so, it makes no sense. Tech football has experienced the rapid growth in support and income only sense they have become a true contender, and (as much as Aggie hates to admit it) stopped playing 3rd bannana in the state. UT is still number 1, no contest, but in football Aggie no longer has claim to a clear number 2. No one was talking about additions to Jones stadium until Tech began selling it out more regulary. Think that might have anything to do with the fact that Jones has become one of the tougher Big 12 stadiums, especially for aTm, our most hated rival.

Losing to A&M in Dallas, in front of majority Aggie every year is not going to help recruiting or build your fan base. It will cost Tech one of their guaranteed home sell outs. It will get help Aggie widen their narrow gap in the series. . . . Stupid, stupid move, no two ways about it.

[GoOwls]

I listen to The Ticket in Dallas, the all-sports station and during the college basketball season the afternoon guys have the Bobby Knight Show every Thursday. There was a special game played in mid-season here in Dallas. I believe it was TT vs. Michigan or Ohio State, and it was played in the AAC in Dallas. Bobby acknowledged that the game was an effort to reach out to the vast TT alumni base in Dallas and attract a good crowd and hopefully attract more alumni to return to TT for home games and sell season tickets. Lesson is that TT is very aware of the money situation and is exploiting it in basketball already.

[Firebird]

GoOwls--

Playing Michigan or Ohio State in Dallas IS a great idea, just like trying to make sure you have a metroplex team on your schedule (TCU, SMU, NT). The difference is this-- there are way MORE Aggies in Dallas than Red Raider Alums, but way more Red Raiders than Buckeyes. The game will turn into a home-type atmosphere for them. It doesn't do you any good to basically gurantee that your biggest rivalry game will always be played in front of an unfriendly crowd.

Scheduling a metroplex patsy or a non-conference game in Big D makes a lot of sense in terms of recruiting and building and satisfying your fan base. Giving away your greatest advantage in perhaps the nastiest rivalry in Texas college sports does not.

The Red river shoot out works because it is a truly neutral site, and both schools are equally represented. That won't happen with Tech-Aggie.

[jtk1519]

True, KTChamp, but even so, it makes no sense. Tech football has experienced the rapid growth in support and income only sense they have become a true contender, and (as much as Aggie hates to admit it) stopped playing 3rd bannana in the state. UT is still number 1, no contest, but in football Aggie no longer has claim to a clear number 2. No one was talking about additions to Jones stadium until Tech began selling it out more regulary. Think that might have anything to do with the fact that Jones has become one of the tougher Big 12 stadiums, especially for aTm, our most hated rival.

Losing to A&M in Dallas, in front of majority Aggie every year is not going to help recruiting or build your fan base. It will cost Tech one of their guaranteed home sell outs. It will get help Aggie widen their narrow gap in the series. . . . Stupid, stupid move, no two ways about it.

It makes perfect sense if your the Tech AD. Jones SBC has a capacity in the 50,000 neighborhood. The Cotton Bowl will seat over 70,000. You can also figure that ticket prices for this game in Dallas would be higher than what Tech would normally charge so that equals a lot more $$$. There is also talk that each school is being guaranteed $5,000,000. That's way too much money for any AD to turn down and if that is the case, this game will find it's way to Dallas very soon.

[LarryFine]

Well it looks to be a done deal, at least for 4 years starting for 2007. The problem is that it will NOT be part of season tickets, so DFW Red Raiders and Aggies will be plunking down another $75 to see the game. It probably will benefit the guys who won't buy season tickets for Kyle or Jones.

Aggies should be very happy about the move. They haven't won in Lubbock since 1993. Tech beat Texas A&M at Kyle at least twice since then. This move seriously benifits the Aggies.

[Lufkin_Class_Of_08]

yea it will be easier for the ags to go to dallas than tech...tech is 5 hour drive away...im sure its less than 5 to aggieland

[garlandowl08]

its between 3 and a hlaf and 2:45 from dallas, depending on traffic and speed (someone i knows personal record is 2 hrs 14 mins...200 miles in that amount of time means you're going fast)