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nsmustang
05-28-2005, 10:03 AM
Just wondering if anyone has info about OU's starting QB this season. I would think Bomar from Grand Prairie would be it but have not heard anything.

Texasfrog
05-28-2005, 12:22 PM
Just wondering if anyone has info about OU's starting QB this season. I would think Bomar from Grand Prairie would be it but have not heard anything.

I dont know. Sounds like Paul Thompson (Leander,Tx) came out of Spring football as #1 going into the Fall. I saw some of the Oklahoma Spring game on tv and Paul Thompson looked very good also. I would say that between him and Bomar that Thompson looked like he had the edge ( a little). I guess it's going to come down to who can hand the ball off best to Peterson.

It should be an interesting Fall at OU.

PS. Some of the OU faithful last year said the Thompson was better than White.

nsmustang
05-28-2005, 08:22 PM
Wow! Thompson must be something. Bomar came out of Texas as the no.1 ranked QB that year over Bobby Reid and I figured he (Bomar) would be head and shoulders over everyone else and virtually without competition. Should be an interesting season for OU. We'll see.

wide-e-wide
05-28-2005, 10:38 PM
It's 9:37 and OU still sucks.
Go to your own board okies...

Texasfrog
05-28-2005, 11:03 PM
It's 9:37 and OU still sucks.
Go to your own board okies...

Not an OKIE there killer. I just follow some of the Texas boys that made the mistake to go play at the University of Texas-Oklahoma Branch.

Just like I follow the Texas homegrown boys that play in the NFL and ect.

wide-e-wide
05-28-2005, 11:06 PM
Why on earth would any self respecting Texan go play
for U of O?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/51692496.jpg

Texasfrog
05-28-2005, 11:43 PM
Why on earth would any self respecting Texan go play
for U of O?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/51692496.jpg

I have no idea. That kills me every year when I see some of the top blue-chip Texas kids leave Texas to go play at UO, LSU , Miami and others.

Heck, I would rather see them go play at SMU, Baylor, North Tx or UTEP.

I looked at the Final National AP top #25 rosters. Dude, there was so many Texas kids on those top #25 team.

Until we build the fence and keep them all in. Texas will be raided every year by National scouts looking for those blue-chips.

wide-e-wide
05-29-2005, 12:00 AM
Either build a fence or start handing out Navigators and Cadillacs...

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 12:21 AM
It's the law of supply and demand. There are far more quality athletes coming out of the state of Texas than there are roster spots on Texas teams. Until that changes, you have to expect to see some leave.

wide-e-wide
05-29-2005, 12:38 AM
Are you drunk or just stupid?
There are more roster spots in OK than in Texas?
Okie-dokie...there's only about eleventy-billion colleges in Texas...
and they just happen to all be full when saaaaaay....Adrian Peterson
decides on where to go...right?
wrong...they gave him a Lincoln and a pulse card and told him welcome
aboard....
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/1.jpg
classy program they got up in Norman...

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 02:05 AM
Are you drunk or just stupid?
There are more roster spots in OK than in Texas?

Are you stupid or is learning to read still on your "to do" list? I didnt say there were more roster spots in Mobilhoma. I said there were more athletes in Texas than there are roster spots in Texas... and yes there are more athletes than roster spots. Hell, there are more kids playing 5A football in the greater Dallas area than there are roster spots for every one of Texas' Div. 1-A teams. That is why rosters from California to Florida are littered with Texas kids while the in state colleges are packed to the brim with Texas talent.

If I have to start slowly explaining the simplest of things to you, I'm just gonna break down and start calling you aggy.

wide-e-wide
05-29-2005, 02:17 AM
Stop it...stop it...stop it...
YOU WILL NOT CALL ME aggy UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES...ARE WE CLEAR?

I have been drinking ...cut me some slack.
Yet...I still say the number of kids worthy of D1 ships...and the number of spots in Texas are close...real close. close enough to where we should never hear the phrase..."sooners score...and the kid from Palestine,TX is having an incredible day" that should never happen...

dragonsdaddy
05-29-2005, 10:07 AM
the specific reason for many rr crossers is the coaching. ou has one of the best hcs in the country. tu has mack. if the names were reversed, tu would be getting these kids and mack would have been fired 2 years ago.

Texasfrog
05-29-2005, 10:07 AM
There is 10 D-1A schools in Texas. That means every year they will give out about 200 "ships".

Texas has about 340 kids sign "ships" every year into D-1A programs.

So, those other 140 kids are going somewhere and it aint to Texas schools.

Texasfrog
05-29-2005, 10:09 AM
the specific reason for many rr crossers is the coaching. ou has one of the best hcs in the country. tu has mack. if the names were reversed, tu would be getting these kids and mack would have been fired 2 years ago.

I think the bigger problem at UT is the (OC) Greg Davis. He has the imagination for offense like Uncle Bobby coaching the Pop Warner team.

In fact I think I would take Uncle Bobby pop warner coaching over Greg Davis many times.

dragonsdaddy
05-29-2005, 10:10 AM
i agree, but until mack sees the light, he's the problem.

slcdragons
05-29-2005, 10:12 AM
I have no idea. That kills me every year when I see some of the top blue-chip Texas kids leave Texas to go play at UO, LSU , Miami and others.

Heck, I would rather see them go play at SMU, Baylor, North Tx or UTEP.

I looked at the Final National AP top #25 rosters. Dude, there was so many Texas kids on those top #25 team.

Until we build the fence and keep them all in. Texas will be raided every year by National scouts looking for those blue-chips.

Look at the list you typed up( UO, LSU , Miami), what do they have that Texas doesn't? Recent National Championships. Talking about the Texas (Longhorns) (from the perspective of an Iowa Hawkeye supporter), Mack is a great recruiter,no doubt about that, but what does he do with the players once he gets them to Austin? Do they develop into better football players? I know most of the kids that Iowa gets out of Texas are not that highly rated using the famous Rival Star System, since Ferentz has been there they have only signed 1 player with 3 stars(Corey Robertson--Denison) and 1 four star player(Drew Tate--Baytown Lee). But yet Jonathan Babeineaux (Port Arthur Lincoln) converted rb to a dt, went from a 2 star to an All Big Ten performer who was drafted in the 2nd Round, 27th overall Pick by the Atlanta Falcons.This year Clinton Solomon, another 2 star player, from Fort Worth Eastern Hills, will probably fall in steps close to that of JB. Scott Chandler(2 stars) (SLC) will be a an all Big Ten player before his time is up in Iowa City. The Iowa staff does a great job of identifying talent that alot of colleges miss.And then they take those players( who were lightly recruited) and develop them into solid teams that beat the collegiate teams with the four and five star players.

Texasfrog
05-29-2005, 10:29 AM
Look at the list you typed up( UO, LSU , Miami), what do they have that Texas doesn't? Recent National Championships. Talking about the Texas (Longhorns) (from the perspective of an Iowa Hawkeye supporter), Mack is a great recruiter,no doubt about that, but what does he do with the players once he gets them to Austin? Do they develop into better football players? I know most of the kids that Iowa gets out of Texas are not that highly rated using the famous Rival Star System, since Ferentz has been there they have only signed 1 player with 3 stars(Corey Robertson--Denison) and 1 four star player(Drew Tate--Baytown Lee). But yet Jonathan Babeineaux (Port Arthur Lincoln) converted rb to a dt, went from a 2 star to an All Big Ten performer who was drafted in the 2nd Round, 27th overall Pick by the Atlanta Falcons.This year Clinton Solomon, another 2 star player, from Fort Worth Eastern Hills, will probably fall in steps close to that of JB. Scott Chandler(2 stars) (SLC) will be a an all Big Ten player before his time is up in Iowa City. The Iowa staff does a great job of identifying talent that alot of colleges miss.And then they take those players( who were lightly recruited) and develop them into solid teams that beat the collegiate teams with the four and five star players.

Cant disagree with that...I've seen alot of kids that have come out of Texas that werent bigtime Texas blue-chips and they've gone on to All-Conference levels at other Conferences than the Big-12.

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 02:05 PM
I did the reasearch and made a post a while back (I dont remember if it was here or not) that basicly showed how Mobilhoma is NOT stealing the top Texas talent away. In fact, Mobilhoma barely does better than aggy and Texas is by far at the top when it comes to recruiting the state's top talent. People look at Rhett Bomar and Adrian Peterson and they think this must happen all the time. It doesnt. Fact is that most of the time, the top talent in Texas... stays in Texas. Mobilhoma just develops second tier Texas talent much better than any Texas school develops it's top tier talent. That is the difference between great 11-1 seasons and national championships.

Can I blame Peterson for not wanting to come sit behind Cedric for a year? No. Can I blame Rehtt for not wanting to come sit behind VY for several years? No. Would I shake my head in disgust if either have them had decided to throw their careers away with aggy? Yep. Sure it would be nice to see Rhett and/or Adrian in burnt orange, but I sure cant blame them for the choices they made.

Texasfrog
05-29-2005, 02:54 PM
I did the reasearch and made a post a while back (I dont remember if it was here or not) that basicly showed how Mobilhoma is NOT stealing the top Texas talent away. In fact, Mobilhoma barely does better than aggy and Texas is by far at the top when it comes to recruiting the state's top talent. People look at Rhett Bomar and Adrian Peterson and they think this must happen all the time. It doesnt. Fact is that most of the time, the top talent in Texas... stays in Texas. Mobilhoma just develops second tier Texas talent much better than any Texas school develops it's top tier talent. That is the difference between great 11-1 seasons and national championships.

Can I blame Peterson for not wanting to come sit behind Cedric for a year? No. Can I blame Rehtt for not wanting to come sit behind VY for several years? No. Would I shake my head in disgust if either have them had decided to throw their careers away with aggy? Yep. Sure it would be nice to see Rhett and/or Adrian in burnt orange, but I sure cant blame them for the choices they made.

I dont know about that buddy. I could give you a pretty good list of Texas boys that have gone over to UO the last 5 years.

DT- Tommie Harris - Killeen,Tx (1st round NFL pick)
Wr- Mark Clayton

There is a good number. Many of those kids it came down between Texas or UO and they chose UO.

I dont blame those kids for their choices. I do think there is more of an underlying reason for it though. Adrain Peterson even said, "he dreamed of being a Texas Longhorn growing up." But, we see where his at dont we.

wide-e-wide
05-29-2005, 06:11 PM
Didn't want to sit behind Cedric for 1 year?...oh the horror.
No big time player has ever had to do that before now have
they?

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 06:23 PM
Didn't want to sit behind Cedric for 1 year?...oh the horror.
No big time player has ever had to do that before now have
they?

He was a Heisman finalist after his freshman year. Something that would not have happened at Texas. Yeah aggy-e, I would guess he made the right choice.

BTW, this is the same kid that said he could go into the NFL straight out of high school. I'm willing to bet he bolts for the draft just as soon as he can. Sitting behind Cedric for a year would have just hindered him.

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 06:31 PM
I do think there is more of an underlying reason for it though. Adrain Peterson even said, "he dreamed of being a Texas Longhorn growing up." But, we see where his at dont we.

Of course there is. Peterson is the same kid that said he thought he could make the move straight from high school to the NFL. A kid that anxious to get to the NFL doesnt want to spend a year sitting on the bench watching Cedric and playing for a coach with a history of waiting to play his young players. He wants to get on the field ASAP and Stoops gave him that chance.

farmerfan
05-29-2005, 06:57 PM
jtk
You might be the most objective Texas fan I have ever come across on a message borad or real life. Every thing you have stated is something I would agree with 100%, calling wide-e aggy is great also. He is the fan that most schools have that will give thier school the bad name.

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 07:13 PM
jtk
You might be the most objective Texas fan I have ever come across on a message borad or real life. Every thing you have stated is something I would agree with 100%, calling wide-e aggy is great also. He is the fan that most schools have that will give thier school the bad name.

Well thanks. Wide-e-aggy is just a little worked up. It happens from time to time. Everybody has there issues and I guess this is his.

I would love to see every Texas kid remain in Texas, but that's not realistic. So, I want them to go places where they will be successfull. I wish Peterson had gone to Texas, but no matter where he plays... he'll always be from Texas and that is what matters. Same for Drew Tate, Chase Daniel, Kirby Freeman, Matt Stafford, Jevan Snead, etc. Those guys can still play for Miami, Iowa, Georgia or whoever, and still represent this state well.

wide-e-wide
05-29-2005, 08:20 PM
jtk
You might be the most objective Texas fan I have ever come across on a message borad or real life. Every thing you have stated is something I would agree with 100%, calling wide-e aggy is great also. He is the fan that most schools have that will give thier school the bad name.

I love my team..and for that I give the entire university a bad name?
I'm not objective...I don't sugar-coat it...I call it and tell it like it is...
and for that people dislike me...I can deal with that. At least I'm real.

Texasfrog
05-29-2005, 11:02 PM
Well thanks. Wide-e-aggy is just a little worked up. It happens from time to time. Everybody has there issues and I guess this is his.

I would love to see every Texas kid remain in Texas, but that's not realistic. So, I want them to go places where they will be successfull. I wish Peterson had gone to Texas, but no matter where he plays... he'll always be from Texas and that is what matters. Same for Drew Tate, Chase Daniel, Kirby Freeman, Matt Stafford, Jevan Snead, etc. Those guys can still play for Miami, Iowa, Georgia or whoever, and still represent this state well.

Listen buddy. I root for the Texas kids. I dont like UO but I do root for the Texas kids when they aint playing Texas, Tx A&M or Tx Tech. Just like I follow all the homegrown kids in the NFL, CFL and even Arena League.

I know that Texa isnt going to keep all the talent every year. I've been following football for awhile and have been seeing this for along time. It even increased two-fold when the SWC started to go South with NCAA troubles.

But, I still get somewhat upset when I see a bigtime Texas blue-chip go to another "out-of-state" school. especially when it comes down between Texas and that other school.

But, I do root for the Texas kids wherever they end up. I just hope they go on to represent Texas well wherever they end up (SEC, ACC, Big-10, Pac-10 or Big-12).

But, I was born a Longhorn and I'll always root for the Univ-Tx.

jtk1519
05-29-2005, 11:38 PM
You have to get used to seeing those blue chip guys go out of state when there isnt a spot for them in state. Sure, it would be great to see Adrian Peterson at Texas, but if he had gone to Texas, that might have forced Jamaal Charles to go somewhere else. If Charles goes to aggy, then Javorski Lane might have to go somewhere else. If say Bomar had committed to aggy, that might have sent Stephen McGee elsewhere. Say he had gone to Tech, that might have sent Harrell elsewhere. Say he had gone to Texas, that might have sent Colt McCoy somewhere else and on and on and on.

So long as the state of Texas keeps producing such a large number of great athletes, there are always going to be big names heading out of state. The thing is that for every Rhett Bomar that heads out of state, there are 4 or 5 Vince Youngs, Roy Millers or Reggie McNeals that stay in state.

farmerfan
05-31-2005, 12:19 AM
Wide
Ther is a difference in supporting your team and isulting others, heck you didnt even go to The University of Texas and your reactions to kids not wanting to go there is insane. Tell me, did oyu feel the same way when Major left Louisiana to come to Texas? How about Simms? How about Ricky Willimas leaving California? Or even Brian Pickrly (sp) leaving Oklahoma to come to Texas?
Its a fact of life that kids will chose the college that is in their best interest, let them make their choice and move on.

nsmustang
06-01-2005, 09:01 AM
Heck, all I wanted to know was if Bomar was doing well and would he be the starter this year! I, like most people was interested because he was from Texas and, no, I'm not an OU fan although North Shore sent some players up there and I had some interest from that perspective.