25 vs. 26 in 1st playoff round

[DiamondJ2]

After bantering back and forth all season long, the teams from 25-5A and 26-5A are ready to do battle.

Words of wisdom, words of self-prolcamation, words of absurdity, etc. are ready to begin. As they say: let the games begin or let the good times roll. Enjoy & be careful of chest wounds, head bashing, and have a thick skin.

[mad_fan]

Well since we have bypassed todays games, allow me to go first...

Madison over whoever in week 1 of the playoffs!!!!! :D

[DiamondJ2]

Sweep is the word of the day as the 26 teams use the broom against 25.

[Rerun]

So you guys think that Clemens is not going to get past Madison in Round 1?

[lonny23]

So you guys think that Clemens is not going to get past Madison in Round 1?
I would like for the Mighty Mavericks to do it, but I'm a Doubting Thomas from Missouri (Show Me!).

Clemens over Madison by 7.
SV by 14 over San Marcos.
Judson beats Seguin by 16.

[Rerun]

I think that a lot of people are really, honest to God, underestimating Seguin.

It is not like Clemens is garbage and they played well last night vs. the Buffs.

Clemens has a lot of depth this year. Just because James Henry is out doesn't mean that JJ Johnson, Randall Reese, and Jamal Robinson are going to quit. Clemens has a good passing game as well. Reechard Reeves to Jared Reynolds and Joe Norris is very effective. What about Deanthony Pearson? These kids can all play very well and Seguin was hanging in there.

On the other hand, there is Judson who seems to be improving but let's not forget, they beat Reagan, who although is getting a lot better, is still a team who has never been to the postseason.

To me, it is laughable how much things have changed in a matter of weeks.

The once favored preseason team, the Judson Rockets are now beating their chests after winning a must win game and beating San Antonio Reagan.

On the other hand, SV and Madison all have blemishes on their record.

Is SV better than most teams? Yes.

Is Madison better than most teams? Yes.

Is Judson better than most teams? Yes.

However, Seguin and San Marcos have been rolling all year for the most part.

I think Seguin can and will beat Judson. I think San Marcos can and will beat SV. And I think that Clemens can and will beat Madison.

However, it really is a no lose situation in the big picture. Either way, an area team, that is very talented will move on to the next round.

This is what makes the play-off's the play-off's. Each week the number of teams gets cut in half. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. That is just the nature of the beast.

For the following reasons, I think Seguin will beat Judson.

1. Seguin has a stout defense against the running game. If Juddson wants to run it like they always have, then they must be prepared to eat a loss, because if the Clemens trio last night didn't do it, then the Judson kid's will not.

2. Seguin can effectively pass the ball, although lat night against Clemens, you could nto tell that. But that was due to Clemens better than average Defense on the pass.

For the following reasons, I think San Marcos will beat SV/Madison.

1. Well, SV has been beaten already by a non-playoff team. That right there proves that they can be handled.

2. San Marcos has already beaten Madison(Unless I am mistaken)

3. San Marcos is in my opinion, the second best team in the Region. The numbers do not lie. Sure, they played in a weaker district. But, the excuses run out after this week. If San Marcos gets past Madison again, what will the excuses be? San Marcos is still going to be overlooked because they played Jefferson and Highlands in district?? Give me a break. They play where the U.I.L tells them to play

For the following reasons, I think Clemens will beat SV/Madison.

1. Clemens has DEPTH. J.J. Johnson, Jamal Robinson, and Randall Reese all can run the ball very well.

2. Clemens can pass. Reechard Reeves to Joe Norris and Jared Reynolds has been very effective. I am exciting to see more passing because that is how I like football to be played.

3. Momentum. How much more momentum can you get after running thru each and every team tossed your way. From Waco to San Marcos to Roosevelt and back, the Buffs have not blinked.

4. James Henry. Sure, he is not playing, but he is there with his team. James was never and has never been about "me, me, me" When he won the Kens 5 Player of the Week award back to back times this year, he gave all the credit to his teammates. And just not because he is injured, it's not about,"Well, the best player is gone, so it's kinda expected that we lose." No, it's about the TEAM and about how the team must move on and keep winning.

Coach Ferrera has done a masterful job this year. Coach Hoffman has been amazing as the new DC. The entire coaching staff there, including district AD Coach Lehnhoff is amazing. There is not enough great things to say about you all. Keep up the OUTSTANDING work guys.

Basically, to sum it all up, I think 25-5A is very top heavy, but thats all that matters in the playoffs. The bottom teams dont make it to the playoffs, the top ones do. So let the games begin and let me with the best of luck to ALL the teams playing in the post season.

Play hard. Play fair. Play with respect.

GREAT LUCK TO ALL THE TEAMS, COACHES, PARENTS, AND FANS.

May the best team win!!!

[TexasRed6x]

I think the Judson Game with Seguin will be interesting, but I do not Seguin will be favored at all. I am surprised by Judson last night and admit it. I have always said that the talent is there plan and simple. The problem is the coaching and the play calling that happened throughout the year. I will also say that Judson has one of the best defenses in the city and even folks form SV will tell you that. I do not know what happened with Clemens and Seguin last night, but would bet that Clemens did not play one of their better games of the year. I will also say if anyone thinks Judson will take them lightly after the year they have had I hardly dought it. If Judson can execute on offense, then the game is over, but that has always been a very big if. What team comes to play, the one form last night or the one from Churchill game big question.

[lonny23]

I think the Judson Game with Seguin will be interesting, but I do not Seguin will be favored at all. I am surprised by Judson last night and admit it. I have always said that the talent is there plan and simple. The problem is the coaching and the play calling that happened throughout the year. I will also say that Judson has one of the best defenses in the city and even folks form SV will tell you that. I do not know what happened with Clemens and Seguin last night, but would bet that Clemens did not play one of their better games of the year. I will also say if anyone thinks Judson will take them lightly after the year they have had I hardly dought it. If Judson can execute on offense, then the game is over, but that has always been a very big if. What team comes to play, the one form last night or the one from Churchill game big question.
I don't think Clemens brought anything close to their "A" game last night. Many teams from across the state kinda laid down for the last game.

[LoneRocket]

Just bet on 26-5A.

[lonny23]

Just bet on 26-5A.
When in doubt, YES!

[sendero]

After all the crap everyone was giving Judson about their pre-district schedule all three (3) make the playoffs and two are district champs. In addition Pflugerville is tied with Leander at one loss for the district lead.

[lonny23]

After all the crap everyone was giving Judson about their pre-district schedule all three (3) make the playoffs and two are district champs. In addition Pflugerville is tied with Leander at one loss for the district lead.
And the same thing happened last year. The same 3 teams all won a playoff game last year, too. There's a good chance it happens again, except this time all 3 teams might go 3 or 4 games deep in the playoffs.

[SVite]

After bantering back and forth all season long, the teams from 25-5A and 26-5A are ready to do battle.

Words of wisdom, words of self-prolcamation, words of absurdity, etc. are ready to begin. As they say: let the games begin or let the good times roll. Enjoy & be careful of chest wounds, head bashing, and have a thick skin.

That is wisdom.Funny how true region backers do.They rave ,and defend thier beloved program.If they loose that week,they defend,then pull for that team to go far,to represent,and you can say we lost to this,or that team,that went deep into the play offs."Tempory wagon jumpers"!Part of the motivation for your team to win,is not having to be a "tempory wagon jumper"lol.

[lonny23]

That is wisdom.Funny how true region backers do.They rave ,and defend thier beloved program.If they loose that week,they defend,then pull for that team to go far,to represent,and you can say we lost to this,or that team,that went deep into the play offs."Tempory wagon jumpers"!Part of the motivation for your team to win,is not having to be a "tempory wagon jumper"lol.
OK, boys it's time for you to root for Judson. The Judson fans rooted for SV last year, but you guys stabbed us in the back. Are you with us this year?

[jrdaniel]

I think that a lot of people are really, honest to God, underestimating Seguin.

It is not like Clemens is garbage and they played well last night vs. the Buffs.

Clemens has a lot of depth this year. Just because James Henry is out doesn't mean that JJ Johnson, Randall Reese, and Jamal Robinson are going to quit. Clemens has a good passing game as well. Reechard Reeves to Jared Reynolds and Joe Norris is very effective. What about Deanthony Pearson? These kids can all play very well and Seguin was hanging in there.

On the other hand, there is Judson who seems to be improving but let's not forget, they beat Reagan, who although is getting a lot better, is still a team who has never been to the postseason.

To me, it is laughable how much things have changed in a matter of weeks.

The once favored preseason team, the Judson Rockets are now beating their chests after winning a must win game and beating San Antonio Reagan.

On the other hand, SV and Madison all have blemishes on their record.

Is SV better than most teams? Yes.

Is Madison better than most teams? Yes.

Is Judson better than most teams? Yes.

However, Seguin and San Marcos have been rolling all year for the most part.

I think Seguin can and will beat Judson. I think San Marcos can and will beat SV. And I think that Clemens can and will beat Madison.

However, it really is a no lose situation in the big picture. Either way, an area team, that is very talented will move on to the next round.

This is what makes the play-off's the play-off's. Each week the number of teams gets cut in half. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. That is just the nature of the beast.

For the following reasons, I think Seguin will beat Judson.

1. Seguin has a stout defense against the running game. If Juddson wants to run it like they always have, then they must be prepared to eat a loss, because if the Clemens trio last night didn't do it, then the Judson kid's will not.

2. Seguin can effectively pass the ball, although lat night against Clemens, you could nto tell that. But that was due to Clemens better than average Defense on the pass.

For the following reasons, I think San Marcos will beat SV/Madison.

1. Well, SV has been beaten already by a non-playoff team. That right there proves that they can be handled.

2. San Marcos has already beaten Madison(Unless I am mistaken)

3. San Marcos is in my opinion, the second best team in the Region. The numbers do not lie. Sure, they played in a weaker district. But, the excuses run out after this week. If San Marcos gets past Madison again, what will the excuses be? San Marcos is still going to be overlooked because they played Jefferson and Highlands in district?? Give me a break. They play where the U.I.L tells them to play

For the following reasons, I think Clemens will beat SV/Madison.

1. Clemens has DEPTH. J.J. Johnson, Jamal Robinson, and Randall Reese all can run the ball very well.

2. Clemens can pass. Reechard Reeves to Joe Norris and Jared Reynolds has been very effective. I am exciting to see more passing because that is how I like football to be played.

3. Momentum. How much more momentum can you get after running thru each and every team tossed your way. From Waco to San Marcos to Roosevelt and back, the Buffs have not blinked.

4. James Henry. Sure, he is not playing, but he is there with his team. James was never and has never been about "me, me, me" When he won the Kens 5 Player of the Week award back to back times this year, he gave all the credit to his teammates. And just not because he is injured, it's not about,"Well, the best player is gone, so it's kinda expected that we lose." No, it's about the TEAM and about how the team must move on and keep winning.

Coach Ferrera has done a masterful job this year. Coach Hoffman has been amazing as the new DC. The entire coaching staff there, including district AD Coach Lehnhoff is amazing. There is not enough great things to say about you all. Keep up the OUTSTANDING work guys.

Basically, to sum it all up, I think 25-5A is very top heavy, but thats all that matters in the playoffs. The bottom teams dont make it to the playoffs, the top ones do. So let the games begin and let me with the best of luck to ALL the teams playing in the post season.

Play hard. Play fair. Play with respect.

GREAT LUCK TO ALL THE TEAMS, COACHES, PARENTS, AND FANS.

May the best team win!!!

Dang, what is that blinding light coming from outer San Antonio? Oh wait, it's Clemens, Seguin, and San Marcos' butts after all that sunshine got pumped up them by Headliner.

Judson beats Seguin if they come anywhere near the intensity they brought last night. This team - although questioned throughout the year - still went to the semis last year, they know what to do.

Smithson Valley won't lose to San Marcos. Clemens has made the step up in coaching and can get by with the loss of Henry because of that. A Smithson Valley/Clemens matchup would be huge, and a toss up in my opinion. Madison is close to San Marcos but will get shut down against Clemens.

[SVite]

OK, boys it's time for you to root for Judson. The Judson fans rooted for SV last year, but you guys stabbed us in the back. Are you with us this year?

I really am for Judson.if they were div.ll i could`nt say that yet.My daughter also gets another week to cheer for the diamond "J`s"Last year, SV and myself took a good while to heal after Judson wooped us on the field,then the whole kkk thing was just a bit much.Plus, i still say Judson was our toughest game of the season this year,the intensity i felt in the stands,was like playing on the field.All week the Rockets were on my mind.When we won,it was a feeling that,that sheep herder David must have felt,taking down the giant.Of course David had the maker of earth on his side! ;)

[mad_fan]

I think that a lot of people are really, honest to God, underestimating Seguin.

It is not like Clemens is garbage and they played well last night vs. the Buffs.

Clemens has a lot of depth this year. Just because James Henry is out doesn't mean that JJ Johnson, Randall Reese, and Jamal Robinson are going to quit. Clemens has a good passing game as well. Reechard Reeves to Jared Reynolds and Joe Norris is very effective. What about Deanthony Pearson? These kids can all play very well and Seguin was hanging in there.

On the other hand, there is Judson who seems to be improving but let's not forget, they beat Reagan, who although is getting a lot better, is still a team who has never been to the postseason.

To me, it is laughable how much things have changed in a matter of weeks.

The once favored preseason team, the Judson Rockets are now beating their chests after winning a must win game and beating San Antonio Reagan.

On the other hand, SV and Madison all have blemishes on their record.

Is SV better than most teams? Yes.

Is Madison better than most teams? Yes.

Is Judson better than most teams? Yes.

However, Seguin and San Marcos have been rolling all year for the most part.

I think Seguin can and will beat Judson. I think San Marcos can and will beat SV. And I think that Clemens can and will beat Madison.

However, it really is a no lose situation in the big picture. Either way, an area team, that is very talented will move on to the next round.

This is what makes the play-off's the play-off's. Each week the number of teams gets cut in half. Someone has to win and someone has to lose. That is just the nature of the beast.



That's the problem with want is probably a well reasoned post...I never got past the 26 teams that are blemished and the 25 teams that are rolling...

Without reading the balance of the post, I now what you said...without any objectivity. Their records and opponents do not support the first part of your post, so I'll guess it went downhill from there.

[TxLawDawg]

OK, boys it's time for you to root for Judson. The Judson fans rooted for SV last year, but you guys stabbed us in the back. Are you with us this year?


How did SV stab Judson in the back?

[wide-e-wide]

Law don't go 'round here...Mr. Kansas City law dog....-Billy the Kid Young Guns II

[TxLawDawg]

Law don't go 'round here...Mr. Kansas City law dog....-Billy the Kid Young Guns II

I thought that quote was from Tombstone...

[bucky58]

Judson vs. Seguin - I have"nt seen Judson this year and Seguin only once.Seguin has some good athletes, but not disciplined at times.Seguin has struggled on offense aganist the top two teams in 25-5A scoring only 13 pts combined.With Judson"s playoff experience I would have to give the edge to them.
Clemens vs. Madison- Clemens seems to be out of sync the last two games but has still won with relative ease.Madison can be very explosive, but I think they are vulnerable on defense.Clemems wins a close one.
San Marcos vs. Smithson Valley- SM grinds out a close one at home.

[bullrock]

Swoosh...swoosh...swoosh... Head let the hot air out. Enjoy the games this next week. That's all folks! :D

[PaulinPlano]

The Usual suspects making the usual prognostications. :rolleyes:

[fan2005]

[QUOTE=lonny23]OK, boys it's time for you to root for Judson. The Judson fans rooted for SV last year, but you guys stabbed us in the back. Are you with us this year?[/QUO

You bet, I'm with the rockets and 26-5a. But please stop all the "Sv racism crap" and I'm all with you.

[DiamondJ2]

Judson is playing with a healthy team for the last two weeks. Having Perez back makes a huge difference not only physically, but beacause he is a leader. No doubt the Mats are good, but Rockets defense is just as stout as the Buffs and Rockets special teams have improved tremendously throughout the season. Too bad we aren't playing at Seguin or Judson, Mats didn't want to flip for home and home. East Central has a similar playing surface like Judson, but parking and facilities are not the best. If Seguin is forced to pass the ball look for Rockets to intercept.

As for "chest beating" why not, TH, most people had given the Rockets up for dead. Clemens lost Henry and it may or may not make a difference; try playing without 8-9 starters for a few games and see what that does to any team.

[Go Buffs]

If Seguin is forced to pass the ball look for Rockets to intercept.

I don't know that I'd call it forced to pass. Those suckers line up almost exclusively in spread formation and love to pass.

But I see your point about the Rocket D.

[jrdaniel]

try playing without 8-9 starters for a few games and see what that does to any team.
They're certainly fairing better than the Aggies!

Now that the matchups are set:
Judson over Seguin (playoff experience wins out)
Clemens over Madison (Streety's teams can't elevate in playoffs)
Smithson Valley over San Marcos (Smithson Valley WILL NOT lose to anyone with equal or less talent)

[mad_fan]

They're certainly fairing better than the Aggies!

Now that the matchups are set:
Judson over Seguin (playoff experience wins out)
Clemens over Madison (Streety's teams can't elevate in playoffs)
Smithson Valley over San Marcos (Smithson Valley WILL NOT lose to anyone with equal or less talent)


I can not argue the picks, but Clemens should beat Madison because they are the #1 teams in region IV and top 10 in the state, right? If the young men from Madison make this a close game, it will be to their credit (not Streety's). Madison teams can elevate in the playoffs, inspite of Streety.

[singularity]

Smithson Valley over San Marcos (Smithson Valley WILL NOT lose to anyone with equal or less talent)
Nice reason. It seems true. The teams that are alot better than SV barely win. Equals and lessers seem to not be able to overcome superior coaching.

[TexasRed6x]

Here what I think will happen in the first round of the playoffs.

SV over SM - they were the champion of a very hard and tough district. Their coach is the best coach in the city hands down. They are a very discipline football team and have been here mant time in the past few years, which helps against anyone. Sv by 17+ points.


Clemens over Madison - The lose of Henry will catch up to them sometime this year , but not this week. The defense is better than Madison and that is the biggest difference. Clemens by 8+


Judson over Seguin - Again a team that has been in the playoffs many times, which always helps. The Rockets have already played a playoff game this year, lookiing back on last week and I feel that as woke them up. The defense is one of the best in the city, and again defense wins championships.
Judson by 15+

[SeguinMatadors]

Judson over Seguin - Again a team that has been in the playoffs many times, which always helps. The Rockets have already played a playoff game this year, lookiing back on last week and I feel that as woke them up. The defense is one of the best in the city, and again defense wins championships.
Judson by 15+

Rocket fan, eh?

[lonny23]

How did SV stab Judson in the back?
The SV fans never acted like they wanted Judson to win in the playoffs when we were talking good about them. When we got beat, all they could talk about was how they lost to us because they weren't as good early as they were late in the year. There was a lot of SLC around here in the playoffs, but I took up for SV every step along the way and said they'd give the Dragons a real good game.

I believe in taking up for family and that means to root for your district and region in the playoffs.

[lonny23]

[QUOTE=lonny23]OK, boys it's time for you to root for Judson. The Judson fans rooted for SV last year, but you guys stabbed us in the back. Are you with us this year?[/QUO

You bet, I'm with the rockets and 26-5a. But please stop all the "Sv racism crap" and I'm all with you.
No problem. Did you read my last post about the subject? It might make you feel a little better.

[lonny23]

Judson is playing with a healthy team for the last two weeks. Having Perez back makes a huge difference not only physically, but beacause he is a leader. No doubt the Mats are good, but Rockets defense is just as stout as the Buffs and Rockets special teams have improved tremendously throughout the season. Too bad we aren't playing at Seguin or Judson, Mats didn't want to flip for home and home. East Central has a similar playing surface like Judson, but parking and facilities are not the best. If Seguin is forced to pass the ball look for Rockets to intercept.

As for "chest beating" why not, TH, most people had given the Rockets up for dead. Clemens lost Henry and it may or may not make a difference; try playing without 8-9 starters for a few games and see what that does to any team.
I think the mighty dragon is about to come to life and just in time! :D

[lonny23]

Here what I think will happen in the first round of the playoffs.

SV over SM - they were the champion of a very hard and tough district. Their coach is the best coach in the city hands down. They are a very discipline football team and have been here mant time in the past few years, which helps against anyone. Sv by 17+ points.


Clemens over Madison - The lose of Henry will catch up to them sometime this year , but not this week. The defense is better than Madison and that is the biggest difference. Clemens by 8+


Judson over Seguin - Again a team that has been in the playoffs many times, which always helps. The Rockets have already played a playoff game this year, lookiing back on last week and I feel that as woke them up. The defense is one of the best in the city, and again defense wins championships.
Judson by 15+
I like your analysis. Seguin is 2 TD's worse than Judson at their worst this year. The Judson we see this week will probably win by 3+ TD's. SV is better than San Marcos. It doesn't matter what SM has done because the average team in their district is 16 points worse than the average tream in 26-5A. I'm going to take Clemens to win, but wouldn't be surprised to see Madison take them. I'm not sold that Clemens is #1 in town and they sure aren't without Henry.

[SeguinMatadors]

I like your analysis. Seguin is 2 TD's worse than Judson at their worst this year. The Judson we see this week will probably win by 3+ TD's. SV is better than San Marcos. It doesn't matter what SM has done because the average team in their district is 16 points worse than the average tream in 26-5A. I'm going to take Clemens to win, but wouldn't be surprised to see Madison take them. I'm not sold that Clemens is #1 in town and they sure aren't without Henry.

Lmao Lonny, you are the biggest homer I know. :p

[lonny23]

Lmao Lonny, you are the biggest homer I know. :p
The bad thing is I never went to Judson and have gone to less games than a lot of the other Judson fans, but I'm the first person most people think of when Judson comes up! :D

[lonny23]

Lmao Lonny, you are the biggest homer I know. :p
The power polls will have Judson as between a 14-20 point favorite and I think they beat that. I really don't think you got Clemens' best game, but I also don't think Clemens is as good as advertised.

[SeguinMatadors]

The bad thing is I never went to Judson and have gone to less games than a lot of the other Judson fans, but I'm the first person most people think of when Judson comes up! :D

Ah, Lonny, don't admit to that. No one likes a bandwagon fan.

[SeguinMatadors]

The power polls will have Judson as between a 14-20 point favorite and I think they beat that. I really don't think you got Clemens' best game, but I also don't think Clemens is as good as advertised.

HAHAHA, so pretty much... in your opinion we suck and have no shot?

[lonny23]

Ah, Lonny, don't admit to that. No one likes a bandwagon fan.
I'm not because I'm not leaving them in bad times and never had a chance to see them play for a long time after I started rooting for them. I started following them in the 80's, but never lived down there.

[Rerun]

The power polls will have Judson as between a 14-20 point favorite and I think they beat that. I really don't think you got Clemens' best game, but I also don't think Clemens is as good as advertised.

Ok lonny, let me ask you this. Do you think Clemens is better than Judson this year?

No details, no catches.

Plain and simple, cut and dry. Yes or no.

Is Clemens better than Judson this season?

[lonny23]

HAHAHA, so pretty much... in your opinion we suck and have no shot?
Sure you have a shot. You guys aren't bad, but I don't see you beating Judson if they're anywhere close to their max performance. Judson is 6-4 because of a lot of other things besides talent. They showed in the last 2 weeks that they're ready for the playoffs and those last 2 wins were against teams better than Seguin.

[lonny23]

Ok lonny, let me ask you this. Do you think Clemens is better than Judson this year?

No details, no catches.

Plain and simple, cut and dry. Yes or no.

Is Clemens better than Judson this season?
I'm going with right now and what we'll see in the playoffs and the answer is
NO!

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm not because I'm not leaving them in bad times and never had a chance to see them play for a long time after I started rooting for them. I started following them in the 80's, but never lived down there.

A fan who leaves during bad times is a fairweather fan.

[SeguinMatadors]

Sure you have a shot. You guys aren't bad, but I don't see you beating Judson if they're anywhere close to their max performance. Judson is 6-4 because of a lot of other things besides talent. They showed in the last 2 weeks that they're ready for the playoffs and those last 2 wins were against teams better than Seguin.

Thats crap. Neither Reagan nor Mac. is better than Seguin

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm going with right now and what we'll see in the playoffs and the answer is
NO!

You can't be serious. You just can't. I don't believe you believe that.

[Rerun]

You can't be serious. You just can't. I don't believe you believe that.

It honestly baffles me to see how some people, no matter how loyal they are to their team, can be so patial and unrealistic.

Seguin lost with class and flat out said, Clemens you are the better team.

San Marcos lost with class and said hey, Clemens, you are better than we are.

Every other team has done just that.

And someone comes in here and flat out says that they can beat the #8 team in the state after pulling off what was considered an upset to a team that has never made the playoffs in order to make the playoffs.

Unreal. But some fans are just too one sided. They do not see the bigger pitcture and can not ever admit that there team is not #1.

I also bet if we ask Lonny who will win state this year, he goes with Judson.

Seguin, I am supporting you all 100%. Please do what you have done all year and win. Show Judson that Seguin is the real deal.

Go Matadors!!

[DiamondJ2]

hey, TH, I can admit that the Rockets are not #1, and that Clemens is having a heck of a year, but did have difficulty against teams who were almost as good as them. Of course, when you beat weak teams (except for Roosevelt, SM & Seguin) by a ton of points it is hard to judge how good the team actually is. When they didn't beat those 3 teams by 4+ TD's, then people feel the Buffs aren't all that good. You can't expect to win every game by 4+ TD's, which is a credit to TR, SM, Seguin. Now, we could apply that same logic to SV who has not blown out very many teams, yet they play in a stronger district across the board and did not basically coast 7 weeks out of the season. One of the things we are bound to hear is if Clemens had Henry, then they would have done better in playoffs--and they are probably right, but that same statement applies to Judson personnel for 80% of the season. Is Seguin capable of beating Judson?, yes sir, just as Madison is capable of beating Clemens which I don't believe either will transpire.

[Rerun]

hey, TH, I can admit that the Rockets are not #1, and that Clemens is having a heck of a year, but did have difficulty against teams who were almost as good as them. Of course, when you beat weak teams (except for Roosevelt, SM & Seguin) by a ton of points it is hard to judge how good the team actually is. When they didn't beat those 3 teams by 4+ TD's, then people feel the Buffs aren't all that good. You can't expect to win every game by 4+ TD's, which is a credit to TR, SM, Seguin. Now, we could apply that same logic to SV who has not blown out very many teams, yet they play in a stronger district across the board and did not basically coast 7 weeks out of the season. One of the things we are bound to hear is if Clemens had Henry, then they would have done better in playoffs--and they are probably right, but that same statement applies to Judson personnel for 80% of the season. Is Seguin capable of beating Judson?, yes sir, just as Madison is capable of beating Clemens which I don't believe either will transpire.

That is a valid post. All I wanted to hear was one Judson fan admit that the Rockets are not the team to beat this year.

[lonny23]

It honestly baffles me to see how some people, no matter how loyal they are to their team, can be so patial and unrealistic.

Seguin lost with class and flat out said, Clemens you are the better team.

San Marcos lost with class and said hey, Clemens, you are better than we are.

Every other team has done just that.

And someone comes in here and flat out says that they can beat the #8 team in the state after pulling off what was considered an upset to a team that has never made the playoffs in order to make the playoffs.

Unreal. But some fans are just too one sided. They do not see the bigger pitcture and can not ever admit that there team is not #1.

I also bet if we ask Lonny who will win state this year, he goes with Judson.

Seguin, I am supporting you all 100%. Please do what you have done all year and win. Show Judson that Seguin is the real deal.

Go Matadors!!
It takes coaching and talent to win playoff games and my boys have both. Judson played impaired most of the year and began coming out of the fog 3 weeks ago. Seguin might've won if they had played Judson 1 month ago. Right now Seguin is not better than Judson and neither is Clemens. You asked a question and I gave you an honest answer. BTW, the power polls and most of the guys doing the bracketmaker also have 26-5A in both semifinals!

[Rerun]

Ok Looney.

You really are a fairweather fan.

I thought you were more than that but I guess not.

Good luck to your Rockets because without 5000 kids to choose from, they will need it.

[lonny23]

That is a valid post. All I wanted to hear was one Judson fan admit that the Rockets are not the team to beat this year.
With a 6-4 record, Judson is not the team that everybody is looking at as the "Team to beat." They might be the team that doesn't get beat, though. I still say playing Westfield in SA will make a difference.

[DiamondJ2]

Rockets are not the team to beat--yet, but headed in the right direction. No matter how the season is going or went, everybody wants to beat Judson, just like anybody wants to beat a successful program in any sport.

[lonny23]

Ok Looney.

You really are a fairweather fan.

I thought you were more than that but I guess not.

Good luck to your Rockets because without 5000 kids to choose from, they will need it.
How am I a fairweather fan? Give me one thing I've ever said that justifies that. You're not going to find anything because I was the main person that kept believing Judson could pull through all year. I was frustrated with losing, but I reached the point that I started talking up the team when it didn't look good.

[Rerun]

How am I a fairweather fan? Give me one thing I've ever said that justifies that. You're not going to find anything because I was the main person that kept believing Judson could pull through all year. I was frustrated with losing, but I reached the point that I started talking up the team when it didn't look good.

I'm not going to go back and search thru all of your thousands of posts because I do not have the time nor desire to, but a fairweather fan is someone like you that gets depressed and doubts your team.

Now that Judson beat Reagan-a team that has been in existance for a handfull of years and NEVER made the play-off's, you think that Judson is back.

What play-off teams from 26-5A did Judson beat?

SV? Nope.

Madison? Nope.

They beat the teams that didn't make the play-off's and even lost to one that didn't in Churchill.

But then, all the 26-5A fans will argue that Mac, Reagan, Churchill, Lee, and Roosevelt are ALL better than the best 3 in 25-5A and 27-5A.

Churchill is really good, I will say that. But don't try to feed me Reagan and Mac are better than Jay and San Marcos because they are not.

In fact, Jay DESTROYED Reagan worse than Judson did in non-district.

Now, overall 26-5A IS tougher than the other area 5A districts, but top 3 in each district can hang with eachother.

Judson is a #3 seed. They would not beat Clemens from 25-5A or Jay from 27-5A.

Your whole argument is that Judson is rolling now because they beat Mac and Reagan. Big deal, so they beat 2 teams that are not going to the play-offs. When they did play the other 26-5A playoff teams, they Lost.

[stressybessy]

I'm not going to go back and search thru all of your thousands of posts because I do not have the time nor desire to, but a fairweather fan is someone like you that gets depressed and doubts your team.

Now that Judson beat Reagan-a team that has been in existance for a handfull of years and NEVER made the play-off's, you think that Judson is back.

What play-off teams from 26-5A did Judson beat?

SV? Nope.

Madison? Nope.

They beat the teams that didn't make the play-off's and even lost to one that didn't in Churchill.

But then, all the 26-5A fans will argue that Mac, Reagan, Churchill, Lee, and Roosevelt are ALL better than the best 3 in 25-5A and 27-5A.

Churchill is really good, I will say that. But don't try to feed me Reagan and Mac are better than Jay and San Marcos because they are not.

In fact, Jay DESTROYED Reagan worse than Judson did in non-district.

Now, overall 26-5A IS tougher than the other area 5A districts, but top 3 in each district can hang with eachother.

Judson is a #3 seed. They would not beat Clemens from 25-5A or Jay from 27-5A.

Your whole argument is that Judson is rolling now because they beat Mac and Reagan. Big deal, so they beat 2 teams that are not going to the play-offs. When they did play the other 26-5A playoff teams, they Lost.


Amen!

[lonny23]

I'm not going to go back and search thru all of your thousands of posts because I do not have the time nor desire to, but a fairweather fan is someone like you that gets depressed and doubts your team.

Now that Judson beat Reagan-a team that has been in existance for a handfull of years and NEVER made the play-off's, you think that Judson is back.

What play-off teams from 26-5A did Judson beat?

SV? Nope.

Madison? Nope.

They beat the teams that didn't make the play-off's and even lost to one that didn't in Churchill.

But then, all the 26-5A fans will argue that Mac, Reagan, Churchill, Lee, and Roosevelt are ALL better than the best 3 in 25-5A and 27-5A.

Churchill is really good, I will say that. But don't try to feed me Reagan and Mac are better than Jay and San Marcos because they are not.

In fact, Jay DESTROYED Reagan worse than Judson did in non-district.

Now, overall 26-5A IS tougher than the other area 5A districts, but top 3 in each district can hang with eachother.

Judson is a #3 seed. They would not beat Clemens from 25-5A or Jay from 27-5A.

Your whole argument is that Judson is rolling now because they beat Mac and Reagan. Big deal, so they beat 2 teams that are not going to the play-offs. When they did play the other 26-5A playoff teams, they Lost.
Jay is playing very good right now, but I think SV beats them in 2 weeks. We're not talking about 27-5A.

Seguin is quite a bit weaker than the other 2 in 25-5A. If they're not quite a bit weaker, it's because Clemens isn't as good as you think they are. If Clemens is 10 points better this year and Judson is 10 points worse, that means you guys would still lose by 11 points. I never knew Judson had as many injuries as they reported in the last few weeks. I knew Perez went out early and that would affect their play, but I never knew when he came back until somebody said he was back. I didn't ever doubt Judson making the playoffs until they fell to 2-3 in district and you'd do the same thing if you were 2-3 in 26-5A. That's not being fairweather; that's being realistic about your chances. You're going to doubt your chances to make the playoffs when your competition beat you and SV. Once Reagan beat Churchill, I said Judson would take care of business and make the playoffs even though it was going to take winning by 21 points. You didn't see many people on my side from the Judson faithful last week. How many other of my fellow fans was saying they were going to the playoffs. It sure wasn't Eingedikid, Bullrock, or Bubbacoach.

I say the good things I say about Judson because I know they have the talent to win playoff games and they can actually put it on the field. I also know they know how to win games in November and December.

[SeguinMatadors]

I'm not going to go back and search thru all of your thousands of posts because I do not have the time nor desire to, but a fairweather fan is someone like you that gets depressed and doubts your team.

Now that Judson beat Reagan-a team that has been in existance for a handfull of years and NEVER made the play-off's, you think that Judson is back.

What play-off teams from 26-5A did Judson beat?

SV? Nope.

Madison? Nope.

They beat the teams that didn't make the play-off's and even lost to one that didn't in Churchill.

But then, all the 26-5A fans will argue that Mac, Reagan, Churchill, Lee, and Roosevelt are ALL better than the best 3 in 25-5A and 27-5A.

Churchill is really good, I will say that. But don't try to feed me Reagan and Mac are better than Jay and San Marcos because they are not.

In fact, Jay DESTROYED Reagan worse than Judson did in non-district.

Now, overall 26-5A IS tougher than the other area 5A districts, but top 3 in each district can hang with eachother.

Judson is a #3 seed. They would not beat Clemens from 25-5A or Jay from 27-5A.

Your whole argument is that Judson is rolling now because they beat Mac and Reagan. Big deal, so they beat 2 teams that are not going to the play-offs. When they did play the other 26-5A playoff teams, they Lost.

Well said TH.

[lonny23]

I'm not going to go back and search thru all of your thousands of posts because I do not have the time nor desire to, but a fairweather fan is someone like you that gets depressed and doubts your team.

Now that Judson beat Reagan-a team that has been in existance for a handfull of years and NEVER made the play-off's, you think that Judson is back.

What play-off teams from 26-5A did Judson beat?

SV? Nope.

Madison? Nope.

They beat the teams that didn't make the play-off's and even lost to one that didn't in Churchill.

But then, all the 26-5A fans will argue that Mac, Reagan, Churchill, Lee, and Roosevelt are ALL better than the best 3 in 25-5A and 27-5A.

Churchill is really good, I will say that. But don't try to feed me Reagan and Mac are better than Jay and San Marcos because they are not.

In fact, Jay DESTROYED Reagan worse than Judson did in non-district.

Now, overall 26-5A IS tougher than the other area 5A districts, but top 3 in each district can hang with eachother.

Judson is a #3 seed. They would not beat Clemens from 25-5A or Jay from 27-5A.

Your whole argument is that Judson is rolling now because they beat Mac and Reagan. Big deal, so they beat 2 teams that are not going to the play-offs. When they did play the other 26-5A playoff teams, they Lost.
Big deal, Jay won 37-7 and Judson won 38-13. Why bring 27 into your argument. You'll see in the next 4 weeks that 26 is better than 25 once and for all. You should've known that last year when we swept your district. Do we have to do it again? I know we'll get 2 and I'm not betting against Madison beating your finest.

[DiamondJ2]

I see that your argument holds true for Seguin as well, since they didn't beat the two other teams going to the playoffs from 25.

[Rerun]

Jay is playing very good right now, but I think SV beats them in 2 weeks. We're not talking about 27-5A.

Seguin is quite a bit weaker than the other 2 in 25-5A. If they're not quite a bit weaker, it's because Clemens isn't as good as you think they are. If Clemens is 10 points better this year and Judson is 10 points worse, that means you guys would still lose by 11 points. I never knew Judson had as many injuries as they reported in the last few weeks. I knew Perez went out early and that would affect their play, but I never knew when he came back until somebody said he was back. I didn't ever doubt Judson making the playoffs until they fell to 2-3 in district and you'd do the same thing if you were 2-3 in 26-5A. That's not being fairweather; that's being realistic about your chances. You're going to doubt your chances to make the playoffs when your competition beat you and SV. Once Reagan beat Churchill, I said Judson would take care of business and make the playoffs even though it was going to take winning by 21 points. You didn't see many people on my side from the Judson faithful last week. How many other of my fellow fans was saying they were going to the playoffs. It sure wasn't Eingedikid, Bullrock, or Bubbacoach.

I say the good things I say about Judson because I know they have the talent to win playoff games and they can actually put it on the field. I also know they know how to win games in November and December.

You knowing what you know is not the same as the actual team actually doing them. And by that, I mean win.

If you want to talk injuries, let's talk about how last year Clemens was missing starters due to injuries during the Clemens playoff loss to Judson. I don't wish to go there because that was last year and this is this year. But, if you want to make excuses for Judson piss poor performance early on then I can say the same for last year's game.

Clemens has beaten the other top 2 teams in district without their best player and you don't hear them making excuses. It is because they have depth and can handle it.

Funny, Judson had all those injuries you speak of the same year they are not the larget school the area anymore.

However, Judson still has a much larger enrollment than Clemens and could not find viable replacemets to fill the shoes of the injured players.

Maybe it's coaching, which you said a few posts back, that Judson had. You also said they have talent. So which is it. Was it bad coaching or lack of talent that led to Judson not being able to fill the voids left by the injured players?

Either way, Clemens assessed their injury situation to the best player in the Region and dealt with it. I credit it to talent and coaching, which you also said was needed to win in the play-offs. Seems to me Clemens has all the right tools to win.

[Rerun]

Big deal, Jay won 37-7 and Judson won 38-13. Why bring 27 into your argument. You'll see in the next 4 weeks that 26 is better than 25 once and for all. You should've known that last year when we swept your district. Do we have to do it again? I know we'll get 2 and I'm not betting against Madison beating your finest.

Why bring in 27-5A? Simple. Because all year long, not just for this year but forever, the 26-5A fans have been barking that 26-5A is leaps and bounds better than any other district in the area. This year it is not the case.

[stressybessy]

You can use any formula you so desire to judge the Buffs. It doesn't matter that we only beat SM by 10. (keeping in mind our offense only had 4 or 5 possessions the entire game and the defense was out there for hours and you cannot prevent an offense like SM from scoring when your defense has been on the field the entire game) as for Seguin, Clemens did not play thier A game that is for sure. I don't know what they were doing but I have faith in the Buffaloes coaches that they knew and the score did not matter. 7 points or 70, who cares a win is a win, isn't it? I don't know who will win this weekend. But I wish all the teams the best of luck, be safe and Go Buffaloes!!!

[sendero]

I see all three games as going either way depending on who comes to play. It comes down to what it always does:

1. Don't turn the football over.
2. Don't have any penalties.

But in all good fun let the smack talking continue :eek:

[mad_fan]

But in all good fun let the smack talking continue :eek:

Don't mind if I do...

Madison by 7 :) Is that what I said this morning? Good enough, Madison by 7. :D


PS I have no justification for this prediction, but I have been pretty good all year. Ask Lonny! :p

[Chedderz]

Thats crap. Neither Reagan nor Mac. is better than Seguin
Reagan, Mac and Churchill are better than Seguin, and so is NB Canyon at that.

[Chedderz]

Which Seguin team do you think would be better..... the one making the playoffs out of 25-5a or the one making the playoffs out of 26-5a?

[sendero]

Thats crap. Neither Reagan nor Mac. is better than Seguin

Mats I think you have a good team but to earn some respect I think you need to boost your schedule difficulty. I'm not talking about your district because you can't control that, but your non-district games consisted of 3 4A schools and SA Lee. Time for rescheduling next year let's see what you guys bring to the schedule? I know you have to keep the New Braunfels game but you could upgrade at the other three?

[Chedderz]

Seguin non district.....McCollum, NBCanyon, NB and Lee

Judson non-district.... Laredo Nixon, Copperas Cove and Pflugerville.

Could Seguin beat Pflugerville? Could they hang with Copperas Cove?

Could Judson beat NB Canyon? Could they beat NB by more than a FG?

[buffbacker]

Don't mind if I do...

Madison by 7 :) Is that what I said this morning? Good enough, Madison by 7. :D


PS I have no justification for this prediction, but I have been pretty good all year. Ask Lonny! :p


Madison had to score 40 points to beat Mac. You will not score that many points against Clemens defense.

[SeguinMatadors]

Mats I think you have a good team but to earn some respect I think you need to boost your schedule difficulty. I'm not talking about your district because you can't control that, but your non-district games consisted of 3 4A schools and SA Lee. Time for rescheduling next year let's see what you guys bring to the schedule? I know you have to keep the New Braunfels game but you could upgrade at the other three?

I do agree that our schedule isn't tough but New Braunfels is probably 100 kids from being a 5A school. NB Canyon is as good of a team as I have seen all year, no lie.

[mad_fan]

Madison had to score 40 points to beat Mac. You will not score that many points against Clemens defense.

and we'll WIN BY 7!!!!! :D

[mad_fan]

btw, buffbacker....that's a terrible name...I thought it said something else when I first saw it...

[SeguinMatadors]

Seguin non district.....McCollum, NBCanyon, NB and Lee

Judson non-district.... Laredo Nixon, Copperas Cove and Pflugerville.

Could Seguin beat Pflugerville? Could they hang with Copperas Cove?

Could Judson beat NB Canyon? Could they beat NB by more than a FG?

I honestly don't know if Judson would beat NB. If you are in the SA area and have that Time Warner cable San Antonio on demand channel, watch the Seguin game and tell me that we didn't outplay them by more than 3 points. As far as Seguin hanging with or beating those other schools, I don't know. I know one thing, I have seen Seguin play and I have seen Judson play and I think Seguin is better.

[TexasRed6x]

I do agree that our schedule isn't tough but New Braunfels is probably 100 kids from being a 5A school. NB Canyon is as good of a team as I have seen all year, no lie.

Cayon has a greta team, but in 26-5a only middle of the road, at best.

[SeguinMatadors]

Cayon has a greta team, but in 26-5a only middle of the road, at best.

I have seen Canyon play twice and I think they make the playoffs in 26. Just my opinion.

[Chedderz]

I think that a lot of people are really, honest to God, underestimating Seguin.

However, Seguin and San Marcos have been rolling all year for the most part.

.May the best team win!!!

Yeah Seguin and SM rolled over they're non-district opponents with 2 losses to 4a teams and rolled right thru a district that would be pretty tough if it was in 2a.

[SeguinMatadors]

Yeah Seguin and SM rolled over they're non-district opponents with 2 losses to 4a teams and rolled right thru a district that would be pretty tough if it was in 2a.
And SM beat 25s second best team.

[mad_fan]

And SM beat 25s second best team.

Dude, I thought SM was 25s second best team!!! :p

[Chedderz]

And SM beat 25s second best team.
By 3 pts... and after a tough district I think Madison is now a much better team... You dont think Madison could make up 3 pts now against San Marcos? Is San Marcos better after beating East Central, Highlands, Jefferson and Southwest? I dont think..... But I could be wrong....either way i dont think we will find out because SM wont get past SV in the first round.

[mad_fan]

Maybe you meant 26s second best (the one that didn't lose to any 4a's)! :D

[SeguinMatadors]

By 3 pts... and after a tough district I think Madison is now a much better team... You dont think Madison could make up 3 pts now against San Marcos? Is San Marcos better after beating East Central, Highlands, Jefferson and Southwest? I dont think..... But I could be wrong....either way i dont think we will find out because SM wont get past SV in the first round.

Probably not, Madison won't get by Clemens.

[SeguinMatadors]

Maybe you meant 26s second best (the one that didn't lose to any 4a's)! :D

They sure didn't but they lost to a school who lost to a 4a team.

[RocketTRN]

You knowing what you know is not the same as the actual team actually doing them. And by that, I mean win.

If you want to talk injuries, let's talk about how last year Clemens was missing starters due to injuries during the Clemens playoff loss to Judson. I don't wish to go there because that was last year and this is this year. But, if you want to make excuses for Judson piss poor performance early on then I can say the same for last year's game.

Clemens has beaten the other top 2 teams in district without their best player and you don't hear them making excuses. It is because they have depth and can handle it.

Funny, Judson had all those injuries you speak of the same year they are not the larget school the area anymore.

However, Judson still has a much larger enrollment than Clemens and could not find viable replacemets to fill the shoes of the injured players.

Maybe it's coaching, which you said a few posts back, that Judson had. You also said they have talent. So which is it. Was it bad coaching or lack of talent that led to Judson not being able to fill the voids left by the injured players?

Either way, Clemens assessed their injury situation to the best player in the Region and dealt with it. I credit it to talent and coaching, which you also said was needed to win in the play-offs. Seems to me Clemens has all the right tools to win.

Its a little different losing offensive linemen than losing a RB. I don't care how good a running back is, he can't do anything without an offensive line. Same goes for the QB. Judson has had a rough road this year, with the injuries, new coaches, and the new offensive playbook.

And when did that Converse Judson line in my signature get bigger? I never changed it, but it was bigger when I got on today. Thats weird.

[TexasRed6x]

Its a little different losing offensive linemen than losing a RB. I don't care how good a running back is, he can't do anything without an offensive line. Same goes for the QB. Judson has had a rouch road this year, with the injuries, new coaches, and the new offensive playbook.


You are correct, but Judson over the past 6 quarters has gotten back to Rocket-ball and now we can go to the spread if need be. I would still run 75% of my plays out of the I formation.

[mad_fan]

They sure didn't but they lost to a school who lost to a 4a team.

and they beat the team you'll lose to this week...there's irony in there. :D

[SeguinMatadors]

and they beat the team you'll lose to this week...there's irony in there. :D
Not losing, but if we did,I don't see the irony. Maybe you are more educated on instances of irony. Do explain.

[zippy]

SV was beaten by a non-playoff team, but it was 26-5, which is not a cakewalk. This does not mean SV can be "handled". SV has also beat Madison, who beat Churchill. SM beat them 17-14, SV beat them 31-21. As for the Clemens reasons, yes Clemens did beat Roosevelt, I think it was 15-3. SV just beat them 28-7. Should have been 35-7, and the 7 came against the 2nd team defense of SV. I know these make no difference, but if you really look at it by this, SV can beat both SM and SC.




For the following reasons, I think San Marcos will beat SV/Madison.

1. Well, SV has been beaten already by a non-playoff team. That right there proves that they can be handled.

2. San Marcos has already beaten Madison(Unless I am mistaken)

3. San Marcos is in my opinion, the second best team in the Region. The numbers do not lie. Sure, they played in a weaker district. But, the excuses run out after this week. If San Marcos gets past Madison again, what will the excuses be? San Marcos is still going to be overlooked because they played Jefferson and Highlands in district?? Give me a break. They play where the U.I.L tells them to play

[clemensbuff]

SV was beaten by a non-playoff team, but it was 26-5, which is not a cakewalk. This does not mean SV can be "handled". SV has also beat Madison, who beat Churchill. SM beat them 17-14, SV beat them 31-21. As for the Clemens reasons, yes Clemens did beat Roosevelt, I think it was 15-3. SV just beat them 28-7. Should have been 35-7, and the 7 came against the 2nd team defense of SV. I know these make no difference, but if you really look at it by this, SV can beat both SM and SC.

Yes, we did only beat Roosevelt 15-3, but they had not kicked off 1/3 of the starters off the team when we played them. We also blew 3 scoring drives against Roosevelt because of stupid penalties! Their 3 points came off a blocked punt that set them up deep on our end of the field. So, Clemen should have beaten the 35-3! SV also somewhat struggled against a Reagan team that CJ blew out! What does all this BS mean? Aboslutely nothing! So, I guess we'll see who can do what next weekend! :)

[mad_fan]

Not losing, but if we did,I don't see the irony. Maybe you are more educated on instances of irony. Do explain.


I thought Seguin lost to that same team that lost to a 4a team...and then to get beat by Judson...a team that Madison beat...that would make Seguin like the 19th best team in the area... :p

[zippy]

Your right, and that was my point. Do I think SV has a better team? No, but I think they can beat SM and SC. So 35-3, SV could have beat them 35-0, very close, should be a close game if SV does meet Clemens. Yes SV struggled against Reagan, but did you see why that was?


Yes, we did only beat Roosevelt 15-3, but they had not kicked off 1/3 of the starters off the team when we played them. We also blew 3 scoring drives against Roosevelt because of stupid penalties! Their 3 points came off a blocked punt that set them up deep on our end of the field. So, Clemen should have beaten the 35-3! SV also somewhat struggled against a Reagan team that CJ blew out! What does all this BS mean? Aboslutely nothing! So, I guess we'll see who can do what next weekend! :)

[Rerun]

Its a little different losing offensive linemen than losing a RB. I don't care how good a running back is, he can't do anything without an offensive line. Same goes for the QB. Judson has had a rough road this year, with the injuries, new coaches, and the new offensive playbook.

And when did that Converse Judson line in my signature get bigger? I never changed it, but it was bigger when I got on today. Thats weird.


See what I mean, that all you guys do is make excuses.

Well, you guys lost the #1 player in the Region and still won but we lost our games because we had injuries also. But, but but thats different.

Ok. Right. :rolleyes:

And speaking about coaching changes, last I checked Judson kept the same head coach- you know, the head honcho, the guy that has the final say in the program. Clemens on the other hand, has a new head coach and a new DC. Granted, they were both in the system for a while, but regardless, they are new.

[Chedderz]

See what I mean, that all you guys do is make excuses.

Well, you guys lost the #1 player in the Region and still won but we lost our games because we had injuries also. But, but but thats different.

Ok. Right. :rolleyes:

And speaking about coaching changes, last I checked Judson kept the same head coach- you know, the head honcho, the guy that has the final say in the program. Clemens on the other hand, has a new head coach and a new DC. Granted, they were both in the system for a while, but regardless, they are new.
we will see the James Henry excuses come rolling out as soon as Clemens looses and gets kicked out of the playoffs.

[clemensbuff]

Your right, and that was my point. Do I think SV has a better team? No, but I think they can beat SM and SC. So 35-3, SV could have beat them 35-0, very close, should be a close game if SV does meet Clemens. Yes SV struggled against Reagan, but did you see why that was?

I think that you are 100% correct that if SV & SC meet, it will be another war! It will certainly come down to who makes the least mistakes! But first SV has to worry about a damn good team in SM and SC has to do the same in Madison!

[zippy]

Each of these 4 teams can beat the other 3 any given day, so yes, mistakes, desire, gameplans, coaching, and all the other toss up breaking things will have to work out for them to get the win.

I think that you are 100% correct that if SV & SC meet, it will be another war! It will certainly come down to who makes the least mistakes! But first SV has to worry about a damn good team in SM and SC has to do the same in Madison!

[SeguinMatadors]

I thought Seguin lost to that same team that lost to a 4a team...and then to get beat by Judson...a team that Madison beat...that would make Seguin like the 19th best team in the area... :p

LMAO

[RocketTRN]

See what I mean, that all you guys do is make excuses.

Well, you guys lost the #1 player in the Region and still won but we lost our games because we had injuries also. But, but but thats different.

Ok. Right. :rolleyes:

And speaking about coaching changes, last I checked Judson kept the same head coach- you know, the head honcho, the guy that has the final say in the program. Clemens on the other hand, has a new head coach and a new DC. Granted, they were both in the system for a while, but regardless, they are new.

Does anybody remember last year when Judson beat Clemens 31-0 in Bi-District, while holding them to 0 first downs? Does anybody remember the excuses that came rolling in about the injuries Clemens had sustained before that game?

From here on out, I will not mention the Judson injuries.

Judson has not been playing to their full potential and they have now picked it up. Look for them to pick it up even more vs Seguin this week.

[SVite]

Judson could very well win region 4.Theres not that great a teams in region 4 Div.1.Now the semi final thats a huge difference.Div.1 and Div.2 is like night and day in competition.It hardly resembles a state playoff bracket.Alot of losses between the teams.Kinda crazy if you think about it.Enrollment size means nothing for the first 10 weeks,and now it means something :rolleyes:

[Rerun]

Does anybody remember last year when Judson beat Clemens 31-0 in Bi-District, while holding them to 0 first downs? Does anybody remember the excuses that came rolling in about the injuries Clemens had sustained before that game?

From here on out, I will not mention the Judson injuries.

Judson has not been playing to their full potential and they have now picked it up. Look for them to pick it up even more vs Seguin this week.

I can't speak for everyone but I can speak for myself that I didn't make excuses last year. During my time at Clemens, I was taught to man up and take the challenge, not to make excuses.

At Clemens, you are taught to do your best and be a man, not to make excuses.

[lonny23]

Don't mind if I do...

Madison by 7 :) Is that what I said this morning? Good enough, Madison by 7. :D


PS I have no justification for this prediction, but I have been pretty good all year. Ask Lonny! :p
Kreskin the Great, how far does Judson go? :p

[lonny23]

I do agree that our schedule isn't tough but New Braunfels is probably 100 kids from being a 5A school. NB Canyon is as good of a team as I have seen all year, no lie.
You'll see a team better than Canyon on Friday night!

[lonny23]

Does anybody remember last year when Judson beat Clemens 31-0 in Bi-District, while holding them to 0 first downs? Does anybody remember the excuses that came rolling in about the injuries Clemens had sustained before that game?

From here on out, I will not mention the Judson injuries.

Judson has not been playing to their full potential and they have now picked it up. Look for them to pick it up even more vs Seguin this week.
I'll say it again. Injuries affected Clemens in that game last year, but they weren't worth 31 points.

[Svbigman]

i think sv takes san marcos because when don't they take san marcos

madison will fall short to clemens because i just don't beleive they have the defense for clemens O.

judson should take care of business against seguin because judson is looked strong against reagan and i think reagan would beat seguin if they played each other.

[lonny23]

Headliner,

You never gave more details about how I'm a front runner. You know the guy that said everybody needed to cheer and show up for the Madison game because they need our support. You know, the guy that thought Judson would beat the Mavs.

[SeguinMatadors]

You'll see a team better than Canyon on Friday night!

I've seen Judson. I really don't want to seem like a complete hater and I don't mean to insult proud Judson fans but Canyon looked much better. They have a great O line and Chase Wilke is the real deal.

[Rerun]

Headliner,

You never gave more details about how I'm a front runner. You know the guy that said everybody needed to cheer and show up for the Madison game because they need our support. You know, the guy that thought Judson would beat the Mavs.

Because I told you I hadn't the time to search thru your ridiculous amount of posts.

[lonny23]

Because I told you I hadn't the time to search thru your ridiculous amount of posts.
Dude, you're just wrong. A frontrunner is somebody who abandons his team and doesn't care anymore. I never did either of those things. I was concerned like anybody would be and frustrated at the offense not working, but that's because I expect Judson to win. I guarantee you that Clemens fans aren't as harsh on the Buffs because you haven't had the same amount of success. If you're going to pick on somebody from Judson, I'm the last person to pick on because I'm always the one that has the most faith in them. You know that. I talk trash about them more and before anybody else. I fired Judson only after they fell to 2-3 in district and it looked like they were going to miss the playoffs. I didn't do it because I didn't think they were a top team or couldn't do damage in the playoffs. I said all year I wanted them to get to the playoffs and start rolling. At one time, I thought they'd play Clemens in the first round and they weren't ready to play Clemens at that time. When I heard they would draw Seguin, my attitude was that they would have a few games to get ready for the Westfield/North Shore winner.

I'm a stand-up guy and I'm not going to feed you a line. I'm going to tell you what I think and how I feel. I've never backed down from what I've said before and you're imagining me saying something I didn't say or grossly misinterpreting what I've said.

[lonny23]

I've seen Judson. I really don't want to seem like a complete hater and I don't mean to insult proud Judson fans but Canyon looked much better. They have a great O line and Chase Wilke is the real deal.
You're forgetting one of the first thing football teaches us. What you see in a team one week is not necessarily what you see another week. I don't doubt Judson looked bad when you saw them, but they're a lot better now. That can be attributed to players coming back, getting used to the new system, and just building up momentum.

[mad_fan]

Headliner,

You never gave more details about how I'm a front runner. You know the guy that said everybody needed to cheer and show up for the Madison game because they need our support. You know, the guy that thought Judson would beat the Mavs.


Headliner, I think you are wrong about Lonny. He supported Judson thoughout. He also said good things about other teams in the district because that's what true 26 fans do. He said a lot of good things about Madison after he got to know me. :cool: But, wasnt dissing CJ like a lot of fans. He did rag on the new O, but I think that was mostly my fault for bring up where the guy came from :D and I took that as good fun on Lonny's part.

[sendero]

During my time at Clemens, I was taught to man up and take the challenge, not to make excuses.



Why did Clemens repetition their enrollment? They could have stayed where they were at and just played Judson for a rematch this year. Did it only change their position in the football playoffs? Was there some other reason a school would want to change?

[mad_fan]

You're forgetting one of the first thing football teaches us. What you see in a team one week is not necessarily what you see another week. I don't doubt Judson looked bad when you saw them, but they're a lot better now. That can be attributed to players coming back, getting used to the new system, and just building up momentum.


That is usually Madison's problem!

[mad_fan]

Kreskin the Great, how far does Judson go? :p


I said THEY could ask...THEY doesn't include YOU. :p

[lonny23]

Why did Clemens repetition their enrollment? They could have stayed where they were at and just played Judson for a rematch this year. Did it only change their position in the football playoffs? Was there some other reason a school would want to change?
Pure and simple, they changed the numbers to avoid Judson. Judson didn't change their numbers to move out of D1 and they lost attendance. Only football has a D1 and D2.

[mad_fan]

Jerry has his picks up as follows:

Judson by 17
Clemens by 8
SV by 9

[lonny23]

Headliner, I think you are wrong about Lonny. He supported Judson thoughout. He also said good things about other teams in the district because that's what true 26 fans do. He said a lot of good things about Madison after he got to know me. :cool: But, wasnt dissing CJ like a lot of fans. He did rag on the new O, but I think that was mostly my fault for bring up where the guy came from :D and I took that as good fun on Lonny's part.
Thanks for the words.

I'll admit I didn't say the same things about Judson this year as last year and the losses and lack of offense ensured that. This is coming from the same guy that would get mad at stuff Lehnhoff would do and I would say things about his bad coaching decisions, etc. We all get upset when our teams don't win every game. What I didn't like is that he picked me for being fairweather and I was probably the least fairweather of the bunch this year.

[lonny23]

I said THEY could ask...THEY doesn't include YOU. :p
Hey, since you're so great with the future, where should I get my next house when I leave Kyrgyzstan? :p

[mad_fan]

Hey, since you're so great with the future, where should I get my next house when I leave Kyrgyzstan? :p


Schertz!!! :D

[lonny23]

Jerry has his picks up as follows:

Judson by 17
Clemens by 8
SV by 9
Calpreps will say something like:

Judson by 14
Madison by 1
SV by 9

[lonny23]

Schertz!!! :D
If they don't want Bullrock and a few others, I can promise you they sure don't want me. They may protest City Hall to keep me out of town! :D

[mad_fan]

Calpreps will say something like:

Judson by 14
Madison by 1
SV by 9


I think Massey will pick Madison also, but I'm not sure after the close Mac game.

[DiamondJ2]

Rockets defense will shut down Mats; SV will do what is necessary to win; Clemens maybe of Madison-depends if Madison does its playoff fade again.

[LoneRocket]

Should be a good game.

[clemensbuff]

Hey, since you're so great with the future, where should I get my next house when I leave Kyrgyzstan? :p

Anywhere but Cibolo, Schertz, or the East side of U.C.! :p

[clemensbuff]

Pure and simple, they changed the numbers to avoid Judson. Judson didn't change their numbers to move out of D1 and they lost attendance. Only football has a D1 and D2.

Ya, the Buffaloes are really afraid of the big, bad Rockets! Don't worry about us, worry about Seguin this Friday because if your mid-season Rockets show up and the Seguin team we played Friday night shows up it will be one and done for CJ!

[mad_fan]

Anywhere but Cibolo, Schertz, or the East side of U.C.! :p


who the hell would move to ciblow? :D

[clemensbuff]

who the hell would move to ciblow? :D

Way better than living in a crap hole like SA!!!!! Sure is funny how all those SA people are moving this direction and not staying in that lovely city????

[biggest buff fan]

Ya, the Buffaloes are really afraid of the big, bad Rockets! Don't worry about us, worry about Seguin this Friday because if your mid-season Rockets show up and the Seguin team we played Friday night shows up it will be one and done for CJ!
Yippeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!! I will be so Happyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

[mad_fan]

Way better than living in a crap hole like SA!!!!! Sure is funny how all those SA people are moving this direction and not staying in that lovely city????


SA (San Angelo) ain't so bad!!!!

If you're gonna run, you gotta' run further the cibolo... :D

[clemensbuff]

SA (San Angelo) ain't so bad!!!!

If you're gonna run, you gotta' run further the cibolo... :D

Not San Angelo, San Antonio! I'd live in San Angelo in a heart beat!

[gobuffs04]

seguin judson and SM SV are most likely to go either way...there's no way that madison could be clemens even if clemens is having an off night...which they won't...its the playoffs...and the judson seguin game its a coin toss cuz neither team is gonna blow out the other...its just a matter of who shows up and plays and who wants it more...SM SV is gonna be one hell of a game...i'm definately bringin' the posse, and goin to take a trip up to san marcos to see that slobber knocker...haha :p

[SvFootball]

I think 26 5A is the toughest district around. There is no sure bet on any game and the three playoff teams fully have my support until they meet. I have no doubt that SC is a fanatical football team with great coaches but have playing madison already this year i can be one to surely tell you how tough the mavericks will bring it to them. i hope Madison does proceed past the first round but am afraid it wont happen. You can be sure they won't be a push over.

At SV we have had some sucess this year and we don't feel like we are a week 1 team. We will continue to do what we have done all year and come out with our "A" game. Saturday there will be a great game in San Marcos and i hope you can Make it it will be good. We don't believe in the whole SV undefeated to SM talk. we both have different teams, we are 0-0 with what we are concerned.

Judson has a great ball team, and won't give up. they did lose a couple this year but they were against good teams also you can't afford to have an off weak in 26-5A or you will find yourself fighting to make playoffs as shown by 3 teams this year. Judson, Churchill, and Reagan: All Great teams Im going To take Judson in bi-district week.

Im am mixed with my decision
Clemens wins close
SV also wins close
and Judson Runs away in the 3rd

By-and-By 26 5A over 25 5A

[lonny23]

seguin judson and SM SV are most likely to go either way...there's no way that madison could be clemens even if clemens is having an off night...which they won't...its the playoffs...and the judson seguin game its a coin toss cuz neither team is gonna blow out the other...its just a matter of who shows up and plays and who wants it more...SM SV is gonna be one hell of a game...i'm definately bringin' the posse, and goin to take a trip up to san marcos to see that slobber knocker...haha :p
You guys are foolish if you don't think Madison can beat Clemens. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it won't be a shocker.