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jtk1519
07-24-2008, 09:53 PM
What developed from that brainstorming session was the "A-11 offense" - as in all 11 players potentially are eligible.

The base offense is one in which a center and two tight ends surround the football, three receivers are split right, three more split left and two quarterbacks stand behind in a shotgun, one of whom has to be at least 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage.

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=825031

http://www.humphinternet.com/a11/Images/Manual3Web.JPG
http://a11offense.com/

Video of the offense in at work...

http://www.americanfootballmonthly.com/video/editorials/player.php?id=A11GameFilm510x340.swf

Favpack
07-24-2008, 10:09 PM
Is this what LSU ran against tOSU in the bcs game last year? Flynn threw a TD pass to the TE who was wide open.

jtk1519
07-24-2008, 10:19 PM
Is this what LSU ran against tOSU in the bcs game last year? Flynn threw a TD pass to the TE who was wide open.

They didn't need to do anything like this. OSU was too slow to cover the TE.

dragonsdaddy
07-24-2008, 10:25 PM
They didn't need to do anything like this. OSU was too slow .

fify

jtk1519
07-24-2008, 11:00 PM
fify

Touche. :cool:

Favpack
07-24-2008, 11:33 PM
I missed the memo on this new-fangled offense. Let's start another thread on it for the coaches.

jtk1519
07-24-2008, 11:57 PM
I missed the memo on this new-fangled offense. Let's start another thread on it for the coaches.

You ruined my thread! :mad:

In all seriousness, I see a lot of the "swinging gate" in this formation.

Favpack
07-25-2008, 12:20 AM
You ruined my thread! :mad:

In all seriousness, I see a lot of the "swinging gate" in this formation.

I love the swinging gate. Lufkin has run it about 6 years straight on PAT's. Hard to defend.

TxJim
07-25-2008, 09:46 PM
You won't see it here in Texas or in college. We play NCAA rules in Texas and most of the A-11 plays are illegal under them.

Only on a scrimmage kick can you have a player numbering exception to the required 5 offensive men numbered 50-79 on the line of scrimmage. All other plays from scrimmage, the numbering scheme of A-11 is illegal.

So, you could see one A-11 alignment and guys can occupy those interior line positions on a punt, try, or FG attempt with other than 50-79. But, by rule, they are restricted and ineligble from catching a pass anywhere.

That said, I'm not sure how website can claim this is 'the future of football.' I'm not the least bit disappointed that big, strong, slow guys weighing 300+ pounds who have bricks for hands have a historical and sacred place in NCAA football, pounding on or making others maneuver around them at a punishing risk. A-11 looks a lot like flag football, and it's been around for decades.

mdfootball
07-30-2008, 02:06 PM
i believe that the idea with the a-11 is that every snap they are in a scrimmage kick formation, so the numbering is legal. Admittedly, the offense is somewhat odd, but i could imagine it being quite successful.

PeterGibbons
08-02-2008, 05:51 AM
Watching the video it looked a lot like 6-man football with 10 extra players on the field

The King
08-05-2008, 11:05 AM
My Flag football team in college ran this offense.

STJL41
08-05-2008, 01:50 PM
My Flag football team in college ran this offense.

You played 11 man flag football?

The King
08-11-2008, 01:09 PM
You played 11 man flag football?

No we only needed 7

CACoach
10-18-2008, 02:13 AM
if this is what football becomes ill hang up my whistle.

wizenbud
10-19-2008, 07:43 AM
I have seen this offense in person. Last year in California while I was visiting friends and family. What a joke.

IMO, if this brand of football came to this state, the "A-11" offense would be exposed for the farce it is.
When the coach was asked if this offense would catch on, he stated and I quote, "Not in states like Texas, Florida, or Ohio. Too much speed and talent within those States, for the A-11 to be successfull."

Texas style defenses would force A-11 teams to have, I don't know, 4 QB's.
With all the zone-blitzing and mutiple defenses around the state, no A-11 team would make it through an entire season without losing at least 3 QB's.
And I think we all know how tough it is to find a solid QB.

The size and speed of the defenses in Texas would render the A-11 as an offensive gimmick. Let's look at the number of blocked kicks throughout the state. Now tell me that an offense with no line is going to score.

The A-11 isn't the future, it's just another gimmick that will be exposed for what it is. An offense better suited for the backyard, not the grid-iron.