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grayowl60
04-22-2007, 03:05 PM
Dang... I was just learning how to speak the language. Somehow I think wide will return as another species. At least he got the "BS Call" thread in before the ax fell. Bo.. remember, its the most exciting two minutes in sports;)

CoveMom
04-22-2007, 03:19 PM
Obviously something has happened. If it won't get us in trouble, please fill me in. I was out with Boy Scouts all weekend and returned to see this thread. ?????

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 03:24 PM
Wide and Hum were banned in the college forum.Two other members were also banned but for a month.

yallerjacket
04-22-2007, 03:25 PM
More of the Aggie/Horn stuff. A few others got banned for 1 month also. Can't recall who right now.

jakerz
04-22-2007, 03:26 PM
I've been a good boy.

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 03:28 PM
More of the Aggie/Horn stuff. A few others got banned for 1 month also. Can't recall who right now.

LVGag and elprezidente

big red & cujo
04-22-2007, 03:28 PM
yea , but what happened? i see everybody sayin how many got banned but what was said or what thread is it in?

CKE
04-22-2007, 03:29 PM
Its was expected....sad day in the 5atexasfootball community though

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 03:30 PM
Its was expected....sad day in the 5atexasfootball community though

a few legends gone:eek:

CKE
04-22-2007, 03:31 PM
a few legends gone:eek:

new ones will take there place....its the circle of life

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 03:31 PM
yea , but what happened? i see everybody sayin how many got banned but what was said or what thread is it in?

Go to the college football section.From there check in the topic "2007 Depth"(something like that)2nd page is where the drama began...

yankee
04-22-2007, 03:31 PM
a few legends gone:eek:

legends in their own minds....or apparently yours?

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 03:33 PM
legends in their own minds....or yours?

I was speaking post wise...they had over 5000 post...

mtbray
04-22-2007, 03:50 PM
Ha.

I'm not gonna cry over it. They're the kinds of Texas fans that make me at times ashamed to wear the burnt orange.

jtk1519
04-22-2007, 04:04 PM
WTF happened?

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 04:12 PM
Is anyone REALLY surprised this happened? The possibility of having any thread containing posts concerning A & M and Texas evolving without unnecessary name calling and mud slinging was basically zero. You can give each other a hard time without trying to make it personal or over react to the max. I enjoy this forum and it will be even better now that the crackdown is in place.

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 04:17 PM
WTF happened?

Just more of the same Texas v Aggies smack talk. I think it got to a point where KT was just fed up with it. Although I am sorry to see them both gone, the admins have been incredibly patient with all of us. While I am not an advocate of bannings or censorship, I fully understand their point of view and their desire to keep the board from going to the crapper.

I hope sometime in the future that the KTs would reconsider their decision.

big red & cujo
04-22-2007, 04:21 PM
i am glad i saw this. i tend to have opinion battles. but , i just like to have fun on here. nothin personal. i use to go on yahoo and chAT AND GOT INTO arguments but it was fun and very laughable.(voice chat). i guess on here you really have to watch what exactly you say or let it be known that you are really not angry or have a blown top. i am a a&m fan. but, not die hard yet as i am with the 49ers and tyler lee. sometimes people can get carried away in that stuff. i am a die hard san fransico 49ers fan and tyler lee fan. i like to argue and have their backs but i'll try to remember how far i can go.

TexasRed6x
04-22-2007, 04:28 PM
What the heck happened? I don't believe this. Are you sure that they are banned for good?

KT2000
04-22-2007, 04:28 PM
I understand your position on it cavdad, but no one can say they weren't given multiple chances. As an admin, you can only lock so many threads and send so many PMs before it becomes time to take a stand.

I understand trash talk happens and will continue to happen, but it just doesn't need to go to the levels it has in some of those UT-A&M threads.

I don't like to take those kind of measures, trust me. I just know it's gotten really bad when I start to not enjoy logging on the board.

svhorns
04-22-2007, 04:29 PM
Someone(s) had to be the pac-man Jones of the board...

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 04:33 PM
I understand your position on it cavdad, but no one can say they weren't given multiple chances. As an admin, you can only lock so many threads and send so many PMs before it becomes time to take a stand.

I understand trash talk happens and will continue to happen, but it just doesn't need to go to the levels it has in some of those UT-A&M threads.

I don't like to take those kind of measures, trust me. I just know it's gotten really bad when I start to not enjoy logging on the board.

To be able to have the respect and credibility you must have to run these forums, you have to make unpopular decisions for the good of the community. I applaud the way you handled the situation. Second chances are a gift but some just don't care.

big red & cujo
04-22-2007, 04:35 PM
hey how do yall feel about 5a texas football having voice chat? that would be fun if they had that. but then again this is a message board, voice chat may be hard to do or get activated. just a thought.

big red & cujo
04-22-2007, 04:37 PM
:D hey how do yall feel about 5a texas football having voice chat? that would be fun if they had that. but then again this is a message board, voice chat may be hard to do or get activated. just a thought.

svfootball45
04-22-2007, 05:02 PM
well thats a shame but they gave thier lives for a great school and owned LGVag and el prezidente i wish you a good and speedy recovery

t-long20
04-22-2007, 05:08 PM
To be able to have the respect and credibility you must have to run these forums, you have to make unpopular decisions for the good of the community. I applaud the way you handled the situation. Second chances are a gift but some just don't care.

ditto

KatyTigerDad0407
04-22-2007, 05:21 PM
grayowl60,

I know Wide wasn't one of your favorite posters. In fact, you relinguished your HOF status because you didn't want to be considered in the same class as him. Correct?

I would like to see you take your HOF status back, if you don't mind.

jakerz
04-22-2007, 06:04 PM
grayowl60,

I know Wide wasn't one of your favorite posters. In fact, you relinguished your HOF status because you didn't want to be considered in the same class as him. Correct?

I would like to see you take your HOF status back, if you don't mind.

Wow he did that? It's just the internet guys....

slorch
04-22-2007, 06:16 PM
class/respect is earned not given. It is usually not voluntarily relinquished either.

I will miss the guys that got banned because you cannot deny that they were passionate fans, albeit over the edge at times. For some sick reason I "get" Wide, and haven't had an issue with the others involved.

I recognize the fact that we are guests here, and I think it is sometimes forgotten how different/ much better this board is because the KTs maintain a certain level of civility in a place where we pretty much throw up the most controversial of topics at any time. Their hobby has to be pretty much like herding cats- you know cats do their own thing, regardless of what people are telling them to do.

maybe it is none of my business, but are the bans lifetime, or is there a possibility of parole(30/90 days, till football season, ect?) are they just banned from the college forum?

If it is none of my business, that's fair enough.

I know that even while maddening at times, that these guys contribute greatly to the discussions on here as well. If they crossed over the point of no-return, I understand that as well.

Is there any chance of them coming back?

jakerz
04-22-2007, 06:27 PM
class/respect is earned not given. It is usually not voluntarily relinquished either.

I will miss the guys that got banned because you cannot deny that they were passionate fans, albeit over the edge at times. For some sick reason I "get" Wide, and haven't had an issue with the others involved.

I recognize the fact that we are guests here, and I think it is sometimes forgotten how different/ much better this board is because the KTs maintain a certain level of civility in a place where we pretty much throw up the most controversial of topics at any time. Their hobby has to be pretty much like herding cats- you know cats do their own thing, regardless of what people are telling them to do.

maybe it is none of my business, but are the bans lifetime, or is there a possibility of parole(30/90 days, till football season, ect?) are they just banned from the college forum?

If it is none of my business, that's fair enough.

I know that even while maddening at times, that these guys contribute greatly to the discussions on here as well. If they crossed over the point of no-return, I understand that as well.

Is there any chance of them coming back?

Wide is the mascot of this board, he can't be banned for that long...

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 09:08 PM
banned for life sounds like don't come back to me. I think they are done

dada
04-22-2007, 09:09 PM
Damn.......Hope KT lets them back....one day

svfootball45
04-22-2007, 09:20 PM
Damn.......Hope KT lets them back....one day

yea i always enjoyed wides posts

Firebird
04-22-2007, 09:54 PM
I have no problems with any of the decisions. That thread was actually on track and fine. A&M fans and Horn fans were actually managing to TALK FOOTBALL without the BS.

You can't have a Texas football site without discussing A&M and UT. And lately, any of the threads about either of the schools went straight down the crapper. KT let everyone know what kind of guidelines he wanted to see followed, and gave everyone multiple chances.

I'm just glad I had nothing to do with any of the bannings.

jtk1519
04-22-2007, 09:55 PM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.

ktCarl
04-22-2007, 10:04 PM
Just more of the same Texas v Aggies smack talk. I think it got to a point where KT was just fed up with it. Although I am sorry to see them both gone, the admins have been incredibly patient with all of us. While I am not an advocate of bannings or censorship, I fully understand their point of view and their desire to keep the board from going to the crapper.

I hope sometime in the future that the KTs would reconsider their decision.

I think this is the third time Wide has been banned for life. Wide is a cat. He has 6 more lives left.

slorch
04-22-2007, 10:05 PM
I have no problems with any of the decisions. That thread was actually on track and fine. A&M fans and Horn fans were actually managing to TALK FOOTBALL without the BS.

You can't have a Texas football site without discussing A&M and UT. And lately, any of the threads about either of the schools went straight down the crapper. KT let everyone know what kind of guidelines he wanted to see followed, and gave everyone multiple chances.

I'm just glad I had nothing to do with any of the bannings.

We know you're the one that pushed Wide over the edge:rolleyes: .

(actually, i was thinking the same thing you were.)

toddg
04-22-2007, 10:22 PM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.


http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/Emoticons/Worship.gif........not! but you did sound the warning awhile back.

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 10:23 PM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.

You seem to have been the only one with common sense;)

jakerz
04-22-2007, 10:40 PM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.

I'm pretty sure you swore no more third person...what has gotten into you?!

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 10:41 PM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.

only one person is allowed to say that...and he's with the football gods:rolleyes: :p :D

DragonBand06
04-22-2007, 10:50 PM
Damn! I'm just glad I was out of the dorm all day or I might be in with the rest of those guys...:eek:

0utlaw
04-22-2007, 11:01 PM
oh well somehting about the ut thread. eh send everyone my best.


^ I guess prez wants to send ya'll his best regards:cool:

pack0808
04-22-2007, 11:37 PM
I am in absolute aww that wide and hum got permanently banned for something so trivial as an aggy vs ut spar. I mean come on kt I respect you and all but come on? I was expecting to read something ugly when I went back and read what happened but I saw nada that supports a punishment like this.

jtk1519
04-22-2007, 11:38 PM
You seem to have been the only one with common sense;)

You know it. :cool:

farmerfan
04-22-2007, 11:51 PM
I am in absolute aww that wide and hum got permanently banned for something so trivial as an aggy vs ut spar. I mean come on kt I respect you and all but come on? I was expecting to read something ugly when I went back and read what happened but I saw nada that supports a punishment like this.

I hate that they were banned too pack but the warnings had been going on for months. i understand how hard it can be to not say anything about a hated rival but it was the posts leading up to that one thread that got them the boot. the warnings had been their for a good while and KT just got fed up with it. I wish it wasnt that way but until I have my own board I cant argue with him for doing what he does. God knows Ive been lucky to stay around with as many drunken stupid posts I've made

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 07:09 AM
I told all of you. Settle down or get the boot. Now jtk posts while the other sit silent. Listen to jtk... he will show you the way.

http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/Emoticons/Worship.gif........not! but you did sound the warning awhile back.

You seem to have been the only one with common sense;)

I can't quite put my finger on it but something about this little exchange just sent shivers down my (still aching from a weekend with the Scouts) back.

Oh, wait. I think I've got it........This makes jtk the SMART one! :eek: :)

ktCarl
04-23-2007, 07:53 AM
I can't quite put my finger on it but something about this little exchange just sent shivers down my (still aching from a weekend with the Scouts) back.

Oh, wait. I think I've got it........This makes jtk the SMART one! :eek: :)

Smartaleck.
Wide and Co. were warned and I thought it would have happened sooner. I was wondering when el Presidente was going to get booted. It seems he was trying to be the poster boy for banishment. KT has more patience than me. Those guys would last forever if they can keep the name calling, cursing and other personal attacks out of their posts. Wide has some really good post as far as sports is concerned. Those posts with that knowledge will be missed in this forum. The childishness won't be missed at all.

So, CoveMom, you are a boyscout Den Mother?

PaulinPlano
04-23-2007, 09:27 AM
I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but you need to exert some maturity and restraint from time to time. I glad to see the integrity of this board being held to a high standard.

pack0808
04-23-2007, 09:39 AM
People are so anal these days! Two rival schools teasing each other and calling names is the norm.

Drake
04-23-2007, 09:48 AM
Considering members of this board are given free access to all of its content and given a message board to post opinions on just about anything they want, you'd think anyone using the site would show enough respect to adhere the few moderate wishes of those that are paying to provide it... You'd think...

KT2000
04-23-2007, 09:50 AM
I don't consider this acceptable trash talk.

"Dear Lord please forgive these fake military dog worshipping morons....they know not what they do.

Seriously you a-holes are f'n laughable....
Mix in a national title every 5000 years or so before you decide to talk sh... okay."

I just find it rather ironic that two of the people who most critisized others for their "wussification" of the board were the first to overreact defensively when they get a flick in the ear (as HUM put it) from the other side.

If you've got to resort to namecalling and cussing to make a point, then you are doing more harm than good when hitting the post button.

PaulinPlano
04-23-2007, 09:55 AM
People are so anal these days! Two rival schools teasing each other and calling names is the norm.

For my eight year old yes.:p Of course if my eight year old talked like that, he would have a bar of soap in his mouth and a sore bottom. He gets daily instruction on how to be respectful to his companions and adults.

It is really the words they choose (as shown by KT). It is not defensible.

Drake
04-23-2007, 09:56 AM
KT - I don't think you need to justify the bannings... You and your bro have made it clear what is acceptable and what isn't and since it is your board, your rules, whatever they may be, are beyond question...

t-long20
04-23-2007, 10:19 AM
KT - I don't think you need to justify the bannings... You and your bro have made it clear what is acceptable and what isn't and since it is your board, your rules, whatever they may be, are beyond question...

stop sucking up to kt its annoying;)

Drake
04-23-2007, 10:29 AM
stop sucking up to kt its annoying;)It may be ANNOYING to you, but it's KILLING me... :)

PaulinPlano
04-23-2007, 10:33 AM
It may be ANNOYING to you, but it's KILLING me... :)

:p

mad_fan
04-23-2007, 10:42 AM
:eek: Dang Wide...I've only been in New Mexico a day...and you are gone...:mad:

I wanted to tell you about the drinks...and the girls...at the heated pool here at the resort...:D

pack0808
04-23-2007, 12:49 PM
I don't consider this acceptable trash talk.

"Dear Lord please forgive these fake military dog worshipping morons....they know not what they do.

Seriously you a-holes are f'n laughable....
Mix in a national title every 5000 years or so before you decide to talk sh... okay."

I just find it rather ironic that two of the people who most critisized others for their "wussification" of the board were the first to overreact defensively when they get a flick in the ear (as HUM put it) from the other side.

If you've got to resort to namecalling and cussing to make a point, then you are doing more harm than good when hitting the post button.



Just a little teasing from both sides is what I saw and both of them censored themselves. I say no big but I am not the one that runs this site you are, so my opinion means nada. Just making my point and nothing more.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-23-2007, 12:51 PM
I have respect for Wide and HUM, as I do for everyone on this board. They actually seemed like pretty cool dudes, but when it came to UT-A&M, you could hang it up.

I had a feeling it would happen eventually. As someone already said, KT had been sending out warnings for the longest.

The best to both of them!

PaulinPlano
04-23-2007, 12:58 PM
Just a little teasing from both sides is what I saw and both of them censored themselves. I say no big but I am not the one that runs this site you are, so my opinion means nada. Just making my point and nothing more.

I disagree. Just because you omit a letter or two and/or abbreviate a word does not censor yourself. I can read exactly what the word is just as everyone else can.

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 02:19 PM
Smartaleck.

So, CoveMom, you are a boyscout Den Mother?

No. I am an Assistant Scoutmaster. Boy Scouts, not Cub Scouts. My oldest son is working on his Eagle Scout project now and my youngest (who is 12) is working to finish up Second and First Class Scout. I did the committee stuff until the oldest made Life Scout, then I started camping and morphed into an Asst SM. I love it. Taking these boys out into the woods and watching them grow and mature is special. Seeing them adapt to days without electronics of any sort is truly amusing. Probably more than you wanted to know, but I am proud of our work in BSA.

Thanks for asking.

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 02:23 PM
:eek: Dang Wide...I've only been in New Mexico a day...and you are gone...:mad:

I wanted to tell you about the drinks...and the girls...at the heated pool here at the resort...:D


Well...we have all pulled up our chairs and gotten our iced tea, so tell us. We'll listen.....


I trust Ms. Mad would be able to read the story?:D

DragonBand06
04-23-2007, 02:25 PM
No. I am an Assistant Scoutmaster. Boy Scouts, not Cub Scouts. My oldest son is working on his Eagle Scout project now and my youngest (who is 12) is working to finish up Second and First Class Scout. I did the committee stuff until the oldest made Life Scout, then I started camping and morphed into an Asst SM. I love it. Taking these boys out into the woods and watching them grow and mature is special. Seeing them adapt to days without electronics of any sort is truly amusing. Probably more than you wanted to know, but I am proud of our work in BSA.

Thanks for asking.

I send them all my encouragements. Of all the things I ever do, getting Eagle Scout is one I will always be most proud of. Plus I have heard way too many stories of "I got to Star/Life and quit and now I really regret it." Getting past that final step is difficult, but definitely worth it! :)

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 02:28 PM
I send them all my encouragements. Of all the things I ever do, getting Eagle Scout is one I will always be most proud of. Plus I have heard way too many stories of "I got to Star/Life and quit and now I really regret it." Getting past that final step is difficult, but definitely worth it! :)

Now you are in for it. You know admitting you are an Eagle Scout is probably the one thing (coupled with your school choice) to start the tease fest!

Congratulations! IMO the two combined willl get the "Boss" title in 4 years instead of the customary 5. :)

DragonBand06
04-23-2007, 02:30 PM
Now you are in for it. You know admitting you are an Eagle Scout is probably the one thing (coupled with your school choice) to start the tease fest!

Congratulations! IMO the two combined willl get the "Boss" title in 4 years instead of the customary 5. :)

If the worst thing I have to worry about is being teased about being an Eagle Scout and an Aggie, I think I'm pretty well off! ;)

Firebird
04-23-2007, 02:33 PM
If the worst thing I have to worry about is being teased about being an Eagle Scout and an Aggie, I think I'm pretty well off! ;)

Stick by your guns, DB. Both accomplishments are great ones.

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 02:37 PM
If the worst thing I have to worry about is being teased about being an Eagle Scout and an Aggie, I think I'm pretty well off! ;)

Stick by your guns, DB. Both accomplishments are great ones.

I am sure DB06 knows what I was saying. Just in case anyone else is confused, I WAS KIDDING!

Firebird
04-23-2007, 02:38 PM
I am sure DB06 knows what I was saying. Just in case anyone else is confused, I WAS KIDDING!

We know...CoveMom is a class act. Even if she does root for Satan's minions in pinstripes. ;)

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 02:40 PM
We know...CoveMom is a class act. Even if she does root for Satan's minions in pinstripes.;)

You mispelled "Steinbrenner" :D

ThEgReAtOnE
04-23-2007, 03:57 PM
I don't get it....wide and I battled it out for weeks, with insults, and no one was given a "life ban". Odd situtation, to say the least.

jtk1519
04-23-2007, 04:30 PM
I don't get it....wide and I battled it out for weeks, with insults, and no one was given a "life ban". Odd situtation, to say the least.

When the master of the house asks you repeatedly to settle down, you have to understand that you will eventually be dealt with if you don't. I think wide is an ******* and a jerk, but I wouldn't want him banned. He was warned too many times to count.

Redhoss
04-23-2007, 04:31 PM
It may be ANNOYING to you, but it's KILLING me... :)

Maybe so but you are good at it :D

Favpack
04-23-2007, 04:34 PM
It's all a conspiracy. Wide and KT are attempting a coup of Bill Gates' empire with page rank pranks such as this.

CKE
04-23-2007, 04:41 PM
When the master of the house asks you repeatedly to settle down, you have to understand that you will eventually be dealt with if you don't. I think wide is an ******* and a jerk, but I wouldn't want him banned. He was warned too many times to count.

did wide not get banned for using the ** symbol......does this mean jtk is going to be banned

jtk1519
04-23-2007, 04:49 PM
did wide not get banned for using the ** symbol......does this mean jtk is going to be banned

No, he didn't.

CKE
04-23-2007, 05:01 PM
No, he didn't.

yes kt said that el prz and the other guy only get one month for not using language and since wide and hum were cussing they got life bans

lonny23
04-23-2007, 05:13 PM
We know...CoveMom is a class act. Even if she does root for Satan's minions in pinstripes. ;)
I didn't know Stern bought the Yankees?:confused: :p

jtk1519
04-23-2007, 05:21 PM
yes kt said that el prz and the other guy only get one month for not using language and since wide and hum were cussing they got life bans

Prez and the AG got banned for what KT called going "overboard" with the language. However, I will admit that my usage was wrong. It was not intended to be.

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 06:31 PM
Prez and the AG got banned for what KT called going "overboard" with the language. However, I will admit that my usage was wrong. It was not intended to be.


Guys, and KT will correct me if I am wrong. It is the abuse of the language filter that got them. Not the "******" you see from time to time. The filter catches the "bad" words and converts them to "****" if that is all that was there, I doubt the bans would be permanent. It is when you type the first letter of a word and then a bunch of symbols, or first letter and then an apostrophe followed by the last two letters, etc., and everyone can plainly see the word that got them in such trouble.

If however, your posts are constantly filled with "**********" then you might want to start choosing alternative words.

Also, KT appreciates getting pm's on words you find slipping through the filter due to weird spelling or strange use. Then they can be added.

Hope that clears this one up. KT? Do I have it right?

LOLIRTS (little old lady in red tennis shoes)

CoveMom
04-23-2007, 06:32 PM
You mispelled "Steinbrenner" :D

I didn't know Stern bought the Yankees?:confused: :p

See quote #1.

toddg
04-23-2007, 08:31 PM
Guys, and KT will correct me if I am wrong. It is the abuse of the language filter that got them. Not the "******" you see from time to time. The filter catches the "bad" words and converts them to "****" if that is all that was there, I doubt the bans would be permanent. It is when you type the first letter of a word and then a bunch of symbols, or first letter and then an apostrophe followed by the last two letters, etc., and everyone can plainly see the word that got them in such trouble.

If however, your posts are constantly filled with "**********" then you might want to start choosing alternative words.

Also, KT appreciates getting pm's on words you find slipping through the filter due to weird spelling or strange use. Then they can be added.

Hope that clears this one up. KT? Do I have it right?

LOLIRTS (little old lady in red tennis shoes)

http://www.w3bdevil.com/forums/Emoticons/LOL-Rotate.giflol!

mad_fan
04-23-2007, 09:09 PM
Well...we have all pulled up our chairs and gotten our iced tea, so tell us. We'll listen.....


I trust Ms. Mad would be able to read the story?:D

Ms Mad is helping to write the story...
She keeps my head pointed in the right direction...:D

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 09:11 PM
I am in absolute aww that wide and hum got permanently banned for something so trivial as an aggy vs ut spar. I mean come on kt I respect you and all but come on? I was expecting to read something ugly when I went back and read what happened but I saw nada that supports a punishment like this.

He repeatedly warned them of the consequences of continuing it.

You may wanna go back and read those.

pack0808
04-23-2007, 11:33 PM
He repeatedly warned them of the consequences of continuing it.

You may wanna go back and read those.



It is still lame in my opinion and this is a sports message board and not a church. Smack talk between two old rivals is not a big deal to me, but then again I am not the boss.

RocketTRN
04-23-2007, 11:46 PM
that's bull