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#1DawgFan
04-21-2007, 08:55 PM
Whats your favorite classic cars

Muscle cars are my favorite
70 Chevelle SS 454
69 Camaro Z-28 302
69 GTO Judge
71 'cuda
73 455 SD Trans Am
77 Black and Gold Trans Am
67 GTO 389 six pack
65 Corvette Stingray
69 427 Vette
Any Shelby Mustang
Any Boss Mustang
69 Javelin

jakerz
04-21-2007, 10:11 PM
67' or 69' Shelby Cobra

0utlaw
04-21-2007, 10:18 PM
1965 AC Cobra 427
The 1968 Batmobile lol j/k
1970 Dodge Challenger
1967 Corvette L89(427)
1966 Shelby Mustang GT 350 and 68 500
1969 Pontiac Trans Am Ram V.
1969 Dodge Charger and the Charger Daytona

has anyone heard of the Shelby King Cobra?(only 11 were made)

Well u pretty much summed all the classic cars.

wide-e-wide
04-21-2007, 10:20 PM
Just based on the ones my Daddy had...

'63 Ford Fairlane
'57 Chevy Bel-air
'70 Mach one Mustang (my uncle Riley{the man I was named after} died 05Apr70 and left a brand new Hoss for my Dad to drive.....39 miles on it)
'64 Chevy Impala (my personal favorite)

0utlaw
04-21-2007, 10:24 PM
Just based on the ones my Daddy had...

'63 Ford Fairlane
'57 Chevy Bel-air
'70 Mach one Mustang (my uncle Riley{the man I was named after} died 05Apr70 and left a brand new Hoss for my Dad to drive.....39 miles on it)
'64 Chevy Impala (my personal favorite)

My friend owns the 70 Mach,interesting(yellow/black)

Speaking of Mach Mustangs,I believe there's one that hits a low 13 in the quarter.Just remember what year though.I tried to purchase the beast,but the person refused,because it was his son's(who was in the military and the owner)

svfootball45
04-21-2007, 10:26 PM
1972 chevy shortbed C-10

jakerz
04-21-2007, 10:30 PM
Just based on the ones my Daddy had...

'63 Ford Fairlane
'57 Chevy Bel-air
'70 Mach one Mustang (my uncle Riley{the man I was named after} died 05Apr70 and left a brand new Hoss for my Dad to drive.....39 miles on it)
'64 Chevy Impala (my personal favorite)

Riley.....


Hello there Christ

gtown04
04-21-2007, 10:35 PM
67 Camaro

GTown02
04-21-2007, 10:43 PM
My personal favorites.

57' Chevrolet Corvette
64' Ford Mustang Fastback
68' Pontiac GTO

Redhoss
04-21-2007, 10:58 PM
Whats your favorite classic cars

Muscle cars are my favorite
70 Chevelle SS 454
69 Camaro Z-28 302
69 GTO Judge
71 'cuda
73 455 SD Trans Am
77 Black and Gold Trans Am
67 GTO 389 six pack
65 Corvette Stingray
69 427 Vette
Any Shelby Mustang
Any Boss Mustang
69 Javelin


hey Dawg, how about a 73 Roadrunner, 340, p-track, special cam from Rogers in Midland. Top-in, 110 but didn't take long to get there ;)

And you would love this, every Saturday night weather permitting, I go about 10 minutes down the road to a shopping center and I can see 200 plus muscle cars. :)

wide-e-wide
04-21-2007, 11:10 PM
My friend owns the 70 Mach,interesting(yellow/black)

Speaking of Mach Mustangs,I believe there's one that hits a low 13 in the quarter.Just remember what year though.I tried to purchase the beast,but the person refused,because it was his son's(who was in the military and the owner)

My Dad OWNED the E-Gas class at Whitehouse in Tyler for years with that car. Yellow/black racing stripes...used to race in Lufkin and blow doors back...that was in the early '70's.

CyFallsMom
04-21-2007, 11:19 PM
I dated a guy who drove a '68 GTO that was jacked up in the back - my dad could hear that car coming from 2 miles away!! When we went to formal dances, he drove his mom's Buick LeSabre though - not quite as much fun as the "wild" car though:rolleyes: . 5 years ago, I was sitting with another band mom and we got to talking at a Cy Falls game - during the course of the conversation, we discovered that we both dated this same guy with the GTO - at about the same time! We are now very good friends:p

My dad had a pretty cool '68 Mustang at one time...he wrecked it so that was that. I always say Beer and Mustangs don't mix.

toddg
04-21-2007, 11:37 PM
for the first 5 years of my life, my dad had a 67' GTO, bought it brand new the day i was born...my mama said i wouldnt stop cryin' when he sold it, i dont really remember that, but i remember being pinned to the seat a few times when he decided to get somewhere fast on west texas highways.

Sacred Ground
04-21-2007, 11:39 PM
I present "Eleanor"


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/EleanorRamspeed.jpg

wide-e-wide
04-21-2007, 11:45 PM
Elenor...we bow to your greatness....we are but humans trying to live in your world.

f'n sweet car man.

Sacred Ground
04-21-2007, 11:52 PM
1968 Ford Mustang GT 390 Fastback from the Movie Bullitt.

A classic car, a classic movie, a classic actor, Steve McQueen.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Burninrubber4.jpg

wide-e-wide
04-21-2007, 11:58 PM
I dare anybody....that includes Chuck Norris punk as. ....to say something about f'n McQueen in that movie.

Dude................that's Stevie baby

Mac Is Back
04-22-2007, 12:16 AM
1998 Honda Accord 4 door with a 2.4 liter 4-cylinder engine. :D


I enjoyed the '70 Charger in "Death Proof" until those crazy b**ches used it to kill Kurt Russell.

toddg
04-22-2007, 12:27 AM
I dare anybody....that includes Chuck Norris punk as. ....to say something about f'n McQueen in that movie.

Dude................that's Stevie baby

careful wide...this is chuck norris's toilet paper..
http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/004/53/DF/23/BC/3hB0rSgIgtQucrVjGqAV1qNf2N6TYzIK0265.jpg
and his cat's a badarse too..
http://shutter15.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/03/008/7F/FD/D4/C9/UDbmI5Yr2QlXOHURP-tgw9Foc6pI2xLj0280.jpg

do not antagonize chuckie!:D

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 12:27 AM
From the movie "Vanishing Point" with Barry Newman as Kowalski. He drove an all white 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T. Couldn't find an all white one but this one is a 70 Dodge Challenger R/T and it looks good.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/1970_Dodge_Challenger_RT.jpg

GTown02
04-22-2007, 12:28 AM
Doesn't get much better than this. :cool:
http://www.maxogc.net/image_hosting/image/1330.jpeg

wide-e-wide
04-22-2007, 12:32 AM
careful wide...this is chuck norris's toilet paper..
http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/004/53/DF/23/BC/3hB0rSgIgtQucrVjGqAV1qNf2N6TYzIK0265.jpg
and his cat's a badarse too..
http://shutter15.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/03/008/7F/FD/D4/C9/UDbmI5Yr2QlXOHURP-tgw9Foc6pI2xLj0280.jpg

do not antagonize chuckie!:D

I'm about a 12pk deep into a case of tall daddys....f Chuck....I'll test the waters.

Mac Is Back
04-22-2007, 12:35 AM
careful wide...this is chuck norris's toilet paper..
http://shutter09.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/13/004/53/DF/23/BC/3hB0rSgIgtQucrVjGqAV1qNf2N6TYzIK0265.jpg
and his cat's a badarse too..
http://shutter15.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/03/008/7F/FD/D4/C9/UDbmI5Yr2QlXOHURP-tgw9Foc6pI2xLj0280.jpg

do not antagonize chuckie!:D

Chuck Norris' tears hold the secret to the cure for cancer.


...which sucks for cancer patients, cuz Chuck don't cry.

Reaganrattler07
04-22-2007, 12:38 AM
This one's a lot different than the ones listed here.

The Mercedes-Benz 300SL Gullwing. (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/1955_Mercedes-Benz_300SL_Gullwing_Coupe_34.jpg)

Only 1,400 ever built and is one of the most reverred cars the world has ever known. The ones that are left go for around $400,000.00

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 12:40 AM
57 Corvette

http://www.ericksenadvertising.com/carstars/images/cars/57-Corvette-web.jpg

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 12:47 AM
1971 Plymouth Barracuda


http://www.get-in2.com/musclecars/1971plymouth_cuda340.jpg

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 02:27 AM
67 Austin Healey

http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/05IIM090218153C/1967-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-III-C-640.jpeg

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 02:30 AM
'The Graduate' Car. Alfa Romeo Spyder

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1960-1969/1967-Alfa-Romeo-Duetto-Red-Front-Angle-st.jpg

wide-e-wide
04-22-2007, 02:35 AM
cav...."the Graduate" car was absolutely nasty...love it.
but can somebody please post a pic of my Dad
s car?
the
'63 Fairlane....

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 02:37 AM
cav...."the Graduate" car was absolutely nasty...love it.
but can somebody please post a pic of my Dad
s car?
the
'63 Fairlane....

http://www.cars2nv.net/Muscle/63fairlane1.jpg


http://www.mikesgarage.org/assets/images/63FordFairlane_combo_banner_photo2.gif

There ya go.

wide-e-wide
04-22-2007, 02:41 AM
http://www.cars2nv.net/Muscle/63fairlane1.jpg

There ya go.

My Dad's was fire engine red...
he used to say "son...........if the big red don't get 'em....the little red will"

He took it to Mexico and had the diamonds put on the seats and the dash...it was NASTY.

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 02:44 AM
My Dad's was fire engine red...
he used to say "son...........if the big red don't get 'em....the little red will"

He took it to Mexico and had the diamonds put on the seats and the dash...it was NASTY.

See about 2 posts up for the red one.

wide-e-wide
04-22-2007, 02:53 AM
that's the one cav...thanks...


that's my Daddy's car...lord...thats Gunney's car

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 10:00 AM
I think this was Grace Kelly's convertible in 'To Catch a Thief' . A Sunbeam Alpine

http://www.seriouswheels.com/images/a_1954_Sunbeam_Talbot_Alpine_2.jpg

1957 Jaguar Roadster XK150 S

http://www.autosalon-singen.de/Jaguar/jaguar_xk_150_s_roadster_05663_0000_06_02_34.jpg

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 11:29 AM
I should have said AMERICAN made classic cars......foreign cars make me :puke

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 11:39 AM
I should have said AMERICAN made classic cars......foreign cars make me :puke

as opposed to this American classic?

http://a1.mysteria.cz/AMC/AMC_Gremlin_1970-01.JPG

#1DawgFan
04-22-2007, 11:48 AM
as opposed to this American classic?

http://a1.mysteria.cz/AMC/AMC_Gremlin_1970-01.JPG

classic is not the word I would use but to each his own

Redhoss
04-22-2007, 11:59 AM
1968 Ford Mustang GT 390 Fastback from the Movie Bullitt.

A classic car, a classic movie, a classic actor, Steve McQueen.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Burninrubber4.jpg

Those 390's were bad. Great movie too.

twcpfan1
04-22-2007, 12:09 PM
1968 Ford Mustang GT 390 Fastback from the Movie Bullitt.

A classic car, a classic movie, a classic actor, Steve McQueen.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Burninrubber4.jpg

They do not come much cooler than Steve McQueen. Only James Dean is comparable. Great post.

garlandowl08
04-22-2007, 12:24 PM
I really love muscle cars too, but the cars I find very hard to beat are Led Sleds:
http://images.webkrafters.com/trinity/slideshow30193/50merc27714-1.jpg

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 02:16 PM
1970 Plymouth Roadrunner with Hemi


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Plymouth_Roadrunner.jpg

stevefoxsc
04-22-2007, 02:21 PM
never always been up to par with older cars, but the one car i would absolutely have to get before i die is this.

http://www.pontiacserver.com/blackhawk02/67gto-blk-fl800c.jpg

GTO for the win.

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 02:26 PM
The 1966 Pontiac GTO, yeah Steve thats a sweet ride. Pontiac claims to have made the first muscle car with the 1964 Pontiac GTO.

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 02:28 PM
1968 Dodge Charger from the movie "Bullitt"


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Bullitt_Charger.jpg

Sacred Ground
04-22-2007, 02:33 PM
1969 Dodge Charger. Paint it orange, put a confederate flag on the roof and "01" on the doors and you have the "General Lee"


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/61/1969_Dodge_Charger.jpg

SV61
04-23-2007, 10:43 AM
63 Split Windowed, Fuel Injected, Corvette
70 Chevelle SS454 LS6
72 Hemi Cuda/Challenger

Actually had a friend pull up in front of the house on Saturday, in something "rare". He was looking at a 69 Plymouth Roadrunner, equipped with the 440 Six Pack. EVERYTHING original (excluding mufflers, and tires), and NUMBERS matching. The guy was askin 60K for it. Claimed it could fetch upwards of 100K at the BIG Auction.

I think a little overpriced, but everything is worth what somebody will give you for it.

;)

Firebird
04-23-2007, 12:47 PM
67 Austin Healey

http://www.motorcities.com/media/image/640/05IIM090218153C/1967-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk-III-C-640.jpeg


Yes, Yes, and another yes. That is just a great car.

My dad drove a 1962 Austin Healy Sprite that he restored back in HS. He found one that was an old sports racer, so it had the four-speed and a slightly bigger transmission.

He still get a little teary remembering that car. I've set it as my goal to buy him a cherry Austin Healy (probably a Sprite...have you seen the prices for the 3000's) once I get out of grad school and have some flippin' money....I'll drive that bad-boy up on Christmas morning.

Firebird
04-23-2007, 12:53 PM
http://www.musclecarcalendar.com/SP03186.jpg

1962-63 Dodge Dart, 413 "Max Wedge" (This one is a '62)

Fun fact: This is the car that the Corvette Sting-ray squared off against in the Beach Boy's classic "Shut Down"..."He's hot with ram-induction but it's understood, I've got a fuel-injected engine sitting under my hood"


In the song, the 'Vette won, in reality the Dodge was probably the hottest car in a straight line that Detroit put out at the time. The only thing that held it back was the skinny bias-ply tires....Put some slicks on the sucker and stand back.

Firebird
04-23-2007, 12:55 PM
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1953-Hudson-Hornet-black-le.jpg

1953 Hudson Hornet...absolutely owned Daytona back when it was actually "stock car" racing.

Firebird
04-23-2007, 01:00 PM
The real GTO-- Ferrari's 250. That car is sexy.


http://www.calconnect.com/weekly_photo/1962_Ferrari_GTO_HR.jpg

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-23-2007, 01:02 PM
as opposed to this American classic?

http://a1.mysteria.cz/AMC/AMC_Gremlin_1970-01.JPG

Is that a Gremilin?

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-23-2007, 01:10 PM
I like the 1969 GTO, and the Chargers and Barracudas.

But, my all-time favorite ride is the 1975 Cadillac El Dorado, A*K*A, the "El Dogg". I will own that car before I hit the age of 30. Can someone please post a picture of the El Dogg? I'd gladly appreciate it.

DiamondJ2
04-23-2007, 05:26 PM
Partial to my 1968 396 SS Camaro.

BlackandRed05
04-23-2007, 05:55 PM
Its not mine, but is my favorite of the muscle cars. 1970 GTO, The Judge

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s134/p-nut_015/1970GTO-1.jpg

PaulinPlano
04-23-2007, 06:22 PM
1971 Plymouth Barracuda


http://www.get-in2.com/musclecars/1971plymouth_cuda340.jpg

Sister-in-law's husband has one just like it. Yellow. She drives a yellow Crossfire.

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 06:41 PM
Its not mine, but is my favorite of the muscle cars. 1970 GTO, The Judge

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s134/p-nut_015/1970GTO-1.jpg


Thats a 69 Judge. I know because I owned a 69 GTO and it was a blast. I lost only one race to a kawasaki 750. That bike was scary fast:cool:

Firebird
04-23-2007, 06:47 PM
How about this 1966 Plymouth Belvedere. (I also like the Dodge Coronet version). These cars owned their class at the strip. The pony cars and the flashy boy-racer rides are cool, but I always liked my musclecars in more pedestrian trim. This bad boy pulls up to you at the stop-light, and save for the rumble of the 426, you have no idea he is fixing to blow the doors of your GTO or Chevelle:

http://www.accurateltd.com/66%20Hart%20Car%201.jpg

svfootball45
04-23-2007, 06:59 PM
check out my new birthday presenti wish
http://www.autosalon-singen.de/lamborghini/lamborghini_murcielago_roadster_07851_0009_03_08_3 3.jpg

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:02 PM
I should have said AMERICAN made classic cars......foreign cars make me :puke

American mades suck....sad but true.

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 07:07 PM
American mades suck....sad but true.

That is just an opinion which you are welcome to have. Look at Barrett Jackson some time and see how American Classics suck;)

CKE
04-23-2007, 07:10 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/2416000-2416999/2416491_48_full.jpg

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:22 PM
Batmobile, CKE?

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:23 PM
That is just an opinion which you are welcome to have. Look at Barrett Jackson some time and see how American Classics suck;)

Truth: Foreign (including Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Audi, Lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti etc) are much better engineered than most American cars could ever hope to be.

I wiki'd barrett Jackson....Pontiac Bonneville Special came out the same time the 300 SL did.....SL would destroy that in a race.

CKE
04-23-2007, 07:24 PM
Batmobile, CKE?

best ride ever

twcpfan1
04-23-2007, 07:29 PM
Is that a Gremilin?

yes it is. it belongs in the same category as these other american classics.

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/classics/photos/105500/105925.1978.Ford.LTD.Country.Squire.4-Door.Station.Wagon.10.Pass.jpg

http://www.megacalendars.com/images/El_Camino___8635_FC.jpg

:puke :puke :puke

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:39 PM
best ride ever

Haha, true.

I personally liked this one (didn't like that particular movie but the car was the shiznit)

http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/batmobile.jpg

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Car_International_Top_Sports_Cars

My eye caught only three American cars.

twcpfan1
04-23-2007, 07:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_Car_International_Top_Sports_Cars

My eye caught only three American cars.

I think a lot of these American cars have somewhat of an image problem. Most of the pics posted in this thread so far makes you imagine that they are parked in a driveway of a manufactured home somewhere in Hicksville, United States.

But maybe that's just me.

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 07:54 PM
I think a lot of these American cars have somewhat of an image problem. Most of the pics posted in this thread so far makes you imagine that they are parked in a driveway of a manufactured home somewhere in Hicksville, United States.

But maybe that's just me.

Nvm, I got ya Cav dad....yeah the photos look strange but they do look in pretty good condition.

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 08:05 PM
Truth: Foreign (including Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Audi, Lambo, Ferrari, Bugatti etc) are much better engineered than most American cars could ever hope to be.

I wiki'd barrett Jackson....Pontiac Bonneville Special came out the same time the 300 SL did.....SL would destroy that in a race.

Its not all about racing. Besides put those American Classics up against those foreign cars in a quarter mile and watch them get smoked.

Try to fix one of those foreign cars....you can't afford to tune them up much less pay for a water pump or tires for them. No sir, keep those high dollar foreign cars, its American Muscle for me.:cool:

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 08:08 PM
Its not all about racing. Besides put those American Classics up against those foreign cars in a quarter mile and watch them get smoked.

Try to fix one of those foreign cars....you can't afford to tune them up much less pay for a water pump or tires for them. No sir, keep those high dollar foreign cars, its American Muscle for me.:cool:

Of course I'll take the more efficient, higher performance, exotic and luxurious car.

And you did note the only one strength American cars have.....going fast in a straight line. Foreigns can do the same thing and much more.

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 08:10 PM
Of course I'll take the more efficient, higher performance, exotic and luxurious car.

And you did note the only one strength American cars have.....going fast in a straight line. Foreigns can do the same thing and much more.


To each his own. I am just an American kind of guy.;)

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 08:12 PM
To each his own. I am just an American kind of guy.;)

I am too until I found out how cheap American Car Corporations are....they cut corners like no other, man.

Don't even get me started on the new Mustang....

toddg
04-23-2007, 09:22 PM
a classic ride to state...
http://shutter08.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/12/008/66/5B/6E/34/mnUfvXt4vAkwMub1uIp9HimQGocQ7LRX00D5.jpg

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 09:48 PM
I am too until I found out how cheap American Car Corporations are....they cut corners like no other, man.

Don't even get me started on the new Mustang....

I own a 2005 Mustang GT and a 2007 Mustang GT and love them both. They are both fast and fun to drive and I can get parts for them anywhere in the country if I need them. I will take a 07 Shelby GT500 for 45 grand and smoke the foreign competition that cost twice as much.

DragonBand06
04-23-2007, 09:54 PM
Batmobile, CKE?

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/batmobile-resize.jpg
Freakin' ******. :cool:

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 10:06 PM
I own a 2005 Mustang GT and a 2007 Mustang GT and love them both. They are both fast and fun to drive and I can get parts for them anywhere in the country if I need them. I will take a 07 Shelby GT500 for 45 grand and smoke the foreign competition that cost twice as much.

The Mustang is a car with a trucks engine. Has very basic suspension and the rear axel is a little more advanced than a stagecoach.

To each their own but don't for one second think a Shelby could take on an Mercedes SLR or even the SL55 AMG or the Porsche 911 Turbo or even the Enzo Ferrari.

All expensive but all are top of the line, luxurious and very well built. You pay for what you get.

#1DawgFan
04-23-2007, 10:44 PM
The Mustang is a car with a trucks engine. Has very basic suspension and the rear axel is a little more advanced than a stagecoach.

To each their own but don't for one second think a Shelby could take on an Mercedes SLR or even the SL55 AMG or the Porsche 911 Turbo or even the Enzo Ferrari.

All expensive but all are top of the line, luxurious and very well built. You pay for what you get.

The Shelby puts out 500 HP and costs less than 50 grand. Those cars you speak of are at least twice as expensive and the enzo is like 8 times more expensive. The new Z-06 vette will eat all but the Enzo and its only 70 grand. Odds are you will never own one so lets deal in reality . You probably read the car magazines and use that for your expertise. You don't have any real world knowledge of the cars you speak of. Those foreign cars are impressive but are very fragile and uncomfortable and you can't really get insurance that you need to cover them. While you dream about the exotics you could drive some real American muscle and put money in the bank.:cool:

0utlaw
04-23-2007, 11:03 PM
is the 02 Dodge Viper GTS coupe considered a classic?(afterall they did manufacture the new types in 03 and so on).That's also personally one of my favorites.

When it comes to foreign cars,I have to pick Ferrari,especially the vintage ones.Not to mention the old school Mclarens

I have a question to all...Chevy or Ford??:cool:

Firebird
04-23-2007, 11:16 PM
The Shelby puts out 500 HP and costs less than 50 grand. Those cars you speak of are at least twice as expensive and the enzo is like 8 times more expensive. The new Z-06 vette will eat all but the Enzo and its only 70 grand. Odds are you will never own one so lets deal in reality . You probably read the car magazines and use that for your expertise. You don't have any real world knowledge of the cars you speak of. Those foreign cars are impressive but are very fragile and uncomfortable and you can't really get insurance that you need to cover them. While you dream about the exotics you could drive some real American muscle and put money in the bank.:cool:

I pretty much agree with this. The American cars have made leaps and bounds in the handling department, and you might be able to buy them one day. Not to mention you can get them serviced at your local dealership, and going over a speed bump won't take your oil pan out. The Corvette Z-06 is a truly world-class performer that a normal person might truly consider buying one day, and quality control has gone through the roof compared to what it used to be. I'm eagerly awaiting the new Camaro and Challenger.

The exotics you mention are never really meant to be driven in traffic or on the road. You can't really enjoy them without taking them to a track. They are wonderful examples of engineering, but in the end it is just something to show off with.

It's too bad Europe doesn't do small, affordable roadsters anymore. (I guess the BMW Z4 might count). I love the Honda S2000, but it doesn't have the charisma that the old British roadsters like the Austin and MG did.

I do like what the Europeans do with the sport coupes, particularly Audi. Those are world-class driving machines that you can go get the groceries, and you might be able to buy.

Firebird
04-23-2007, 11:17 PM
is the 02 Dodge Viper GTS coupe considered a classic?(afterall they did manufacture the new types in 03 and so on).That's also personally one of my favorites.

When it comes to foreign cars,I have to pick Ferrari,especially the vintage ones.Not to mention the old school Mclarens

I have a question to all...Chevy or Ford??:cool:

Mopar:cool:

ahsstud
04-23-2007, 11:23 PM
when i was just a wee little stud, my dad had a car that would wax the heck out of anyone that dared pull up alongside us. im talking about a '69 RS camaro with a 350 turned out to a 383. 2-speed powerglide trans with a PT rear end. port and polished aluminum heads. shackles on the rear end susp. midnight blue with white stripes. that engine would wind up so tight it wasnt even funny. sold it when i was 8 but i've still got pictures to hold on to at least

0utlaw
04-23-2007, 11:43 PM
Mopar:cool:


03 SVT Mustang Cobra:cool:

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 11:50 PM
I pretty much agree with this. The American cars have made leaps and bounds in the handling department, and you might be able to buy them one day. Not to mention you can get them serviced at your local dealership, and going over a speed bump won't take your oil pan out. The Corvette Z-06 is a truly world-class performer that a normal person might truly consider buying one day, and quality control has gone through the roof compared to what it used to be. I'm eagerly awaiting the new Camaro and Challenger.

The exotics you mention are never really meant to be driven in traffic or on the road. You can't really enjoy them without taking them to a track. They are wonderful examples of engineering, but in the end it is just something to show off with.

It's too bad Europe doesn't do small, affordable roadsters anymore. (I guess the BMW Z4 might count). I love the Honda S2000, but it doesn't have the charisma that the old British roadsters like the Austin and MG did.

I do like what the Europeans do with the sport coupes, particularly Audi. Those are world-class driving machines that you can go get the groceries, and you might be able to buy.

At the moment, the Corvette is the only car in it's class that I would buy. But if anyone really cares to know American companies have been taking their designs to Europe and testing and designing there.

Of course the exotics I listed are much more expensive - they wouldn't be exotic if they weren't. But like I said, you pay for what you get. Top quality and the best of the best. The mercedes I own, while no where close to being new (in fact, it passed that quite some time ago) still outdoes many cars to this day - including the Mustang. Although I admit it may finally be losing its step, but it took them many, many, many years. And the actual quality of mine still exceeds the mustang.

But as far as all cars I believe that Americans should stick to cheap cars and SUVs and trucks and leave the racing and luxury and exotics to the people who know what they're doing....as much as I hate to say it.

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 11:52 PM
The Shelby puts out 500 HP and costs less than 50 grand. Those cars you speak of are at least twice as expensive and the enzo is like 8 times more expensive. The new Z-06 vette will eat all but the Enzo and its only 70 grand. Odds are you will never own one so lets deal in reality . You probably read the car magazines and use that for your expertise. You don't have any real world knowledge of the cars you speak of. Those foreign cars are impressive but are very fragile and uncomfortable and you can't really get insurance that you need to cover them. While you dream about the exotics you could drive some real American muscle and put money in the bank.:cool:

***-u-me.

I do know more about Mercedes, many of which is first-hand knowledge. No, I do not own an SLR or SL55.

And odds are you shouldn't ***-u-me anything.

0utlaw
04-23-2007, 11:52 PM
At the moment, the Corvette is the only car in it's class that I would buy. But if anyone really cares to know American companies have been taking their designs to Europe and testing and designing there.

Of course the exotics I listed are much more expensive - they wouldn't be exotic if they weren't. But like I said, you pay for what you get. Top quality and the best of the best. The mercedes I own, while no where close to being new (in fact, it passed that quite some time ago) still outdoes many cars to this day - including the Mustang. Although I admit it may finally be losing its step, but it took them many, many, many years. And the actual quality of mine still exceeds the mustang.

But as far as all cars I believe that Americans should stick to cheap cars and SUVs and trucks and leave the racing and luxury and exotics to the people who know what they're doing....as much as I hate to say it.


Although I'm not a fan of Chevy,I have to agree with you.The performance and price are worth it.

Reaganrattler07
04-23-2007, 11:54 PM
Although I'm not a fan of Chevy,I have to agree with you.The performance and price are worth it.

I should probably say American car in it's class. There would be other foreign cars I would buy before the Corvette...although I highly respect the Corvette.

gtowndrumma
04-24-2007, 02:08 AM
all i have to say about the exotic vs. american supercars is that we have held our own in the races we have entered since the 60s


and for us sending our engineering out to the U.K.... thats only true to a certain extent. some companies do this and some dont... modern day vets and vipers are engineered right here in america and are perfected in america by such companies as lingenfelter and callaway



and its chevy all the way!

ktCarl
04-24-2007, 07:50 AM
I like the Corvette Mako Shark version. I can't remember if that was in '69 or '70. Of course, I liked my car when I was in High School......brown metallic 1971 Mustang fastback. I was cool.

CKE
04-24-2007, 08:32 AM
I like the Corvette Mako Shark version. I can't remember if that was in '69 or '70. Of course, I liked my car when I was in High School......brown metallic 1971 Mustang fastback. I was cool.
:D

ktCarl
04-24-2007, 01:32 PM
:D


That was a typo.

J-Rock Mom
04-24-2007, 01:38 PM
My husband's baby is a 1966 Chevy P/U that is kept in the garage when our newer vehicles are in the driveway. This truck is beautiful, he put alot of sweat and time in that girl.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 02:47 PM
At the moment, the Corvette is the only car in it's class that I would buy. But if anyone really cares to know American companies have been taking their designs to Europe and testing and designing there.

Of course the exotics I listed are much more expensive - they wouldn't be exotic if they weren't. But like I said, you pay for what you get. Top quality and the best of the best. The mercedes I own, while no where close to being new (in fact, it passed that quite some time ago) still outdoes many cars to this day - including the Mustang. Although I admit it may finally be losing its step, but it took them many, many, many years. And the actual quality of mine still exceeds the mustang.

But as far as all cars I believe that Americans should stick to cheap cars and SUVs and trucks and leave the racing and luxury and exotics to the people who know what they're doing....as much as I hate to say it.

First of all, in today's world no matter what car you buy you can guarantee that engineers and designers from at least two continents have had a say in the process.

If you are interested in pure quality control, then you can't go wrong with the Japanese cars at the moment. They have perfected the technique of consistently producing top-quality machinery. In terms of comfort and performance, the high-end Japanese marques are at least as good as the Germans. Probably better when it comes to reliability, and again, you get less hassle when you go in to repair it. (Incidentally, Cadillac is closing in and they are finally putting out some fascinating pieces of engineering.)

When it comes to the super-luxe and exotics, they are neat to see and read about, but they are for all intent and purposes museum pieces. Unless your name is Mario Williams, the only time you will use your Lambo is to tool down Rodeo Drive at about 25 mph and turn heads...look what I have. It's hell to insure them, and if you take them on a regular street at anything more than cruising speed, you are going to shed bits and pieces from your suspension. The only people who buy those cars are rich fanatics who can actually afford to take one out to the track for a day, and rich show-offs who think it will get them girls.

Ferrari and especially Porsche do put out some cars that are actually meant to be driven. They rarely are, for the simple fact that they cost so much, but you could feasibly take one out for a spin on a nice deserted piece of twisty road and uncork them. But, as has been pointed out, the Corvette in Z-06 trim will devour just about all of them, and run neck and neck with the upper-end Porsche Turbo. And you can take it in to the Chevy dealership to get it serviced. And now quality control has gone way up.

If you are a normal person with a real budget, however, you should to realize that for sheer driving pleasure and fun, most of those beasts are overkill. The average driver will get all the performance and fun he needs from pushing an S2000 or Miata to the limit. You can join a local club and actually race the thing, too. It is hard to beat the sheer joy in throwing around a lightweight, proportionatly powered car around. Once you have done it, you realize why weight is such a critical issue. A heavy car with the same power/weight ratio as a lighter car is just NOT the same. It really is too bad that safety regs have all but killed the little roadster, ala Healy, MG, Alfa Romeo, etc. Those cars were pure joy to drive on an everyman's budget.

SV61
04-24-2007, 03:06 PM
A lot of what firebird said I agree with. We also need to remember that the "Good old days" aren't always.

The roadsters he talks about, were in fact, an absolute blast to drive. Think of them as the pre-cursor to the Cobra 289, and then the Cobra 427. BUT, in true good old days fashion, we can't overlook how absolutely HORRIBLE the wiring was on many of the British Roadsters. Firebird talks about Healy, and MG. Let's not forget Tiumph as well. Lucas Electrics. There is a reason that the Brits drink their beer warm. They all has Lucas Refrigerators!

As of late, one of the best balanced cars I have driven is the Mazda RX-8. I was VERY surprised.

Ferrarris stand the test of time, because most people buy them and DON'T drive them. They are beautiful, exotic, delicate. They are not hearty. If you were to put one on US roads, and drive 100,000 miles, you would be sorely dissappointed. AND sorely, SORE!

Just remember euro car lovers, that Most GM products run bad, longer than most other cars run, period!

Redhoss
04-24-2007, 04:35 PM
is the 02 Dodge Viper GTS coupe considered a classic?(afterall they did manufacture the new types in 03 and so on).That's also personally one of my favorites.

When it comes to foreign cars,I have to pick Ferrari,especially the vintage ones.Not to mention the old school Mclarens

I have a question to all...Chevy or Ford??:cool:

Ford

PaulinPlano
04-24-2007, 04:43 PM
Ford

I have alway bought Ford. I have a Crown Victoria LX and an F-150 right now. Both cars have been very trouble free.

But I have to admit, I am looking at a Sequoia for my next vehicle.

CKE
04-24-2007, 04:44 PM
That was a typo.

lol of course

PaulinPlano
04-24-2007, 05:04 PM
The DB9 is an instant classic. I always thought it was my dream car until I drove a GT Continental out in Las Vegas. That is my dream car...:o I think... I keep going back and forth... I really need one of each.:p

I suppose if I bought the Bentley, I could live in it!:D

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Aston%20Martin/DB9/Coupe/2005_AstonMartin_DB9_ext_1.jpg

http://www.ssip.net/upload/bentley-gt-front-1_9.jpg

SV61
04-24-2007, 05:15 PM
The DB9 is an instant classic. I always thought it was my dream car until I drove a GT Continental out in Las Vegas. That is my dream car...:o I think... I keep going back and forth... I really need one of each.:p

I suppose if I bought the Bentley, I could live in it!:D

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Aston%20Martin/DB9/Coupe/2005_AstonMartin_DB9_ext_1.jpg



The Aston is da bomb. Gentlemen's GT that happens to handle and haul the mail! It is a beautiful car.

The new Jag has similarities. Other than the Ford Taurusish Radiator opening.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t58/rpattersonII/Jag_Xk.jpg

Redhoss
04-24-2007, 06:25 PM
I have alway bought Ford. I have a Crown Victoria LX and an F-150 right now. Both cars have been very trouble free.

But I have to admit, I am looking at a Sequoia for my next vehicle.

Those Crown Vics have always been really dependable cars.

Course Ford has also been the champ in pickups in Tx for quite awhile.

I just heard Toyota has surpassed GM in sales for the first quarter.
GM has been on the decline for years.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 06:35 PM
Those Crown Vics have always been really dependable cars.

Course Ford has also been the champ in pickups in Tx for quite awhile.

I just heard Toyota has surpassed GM in sales for the first quarter.
GM has been on the decline for years.

If GM would wake up and realize that economical, affordable cars need not be cheap pieces of crap, they would be fine. If they would devote the attention to quality control they give to the Cadillacs to the Cobalts, they would be fine.

Toyota has pulled ahead because they make good, everyday transportation that is well put together. The interior trim of a Japanese or Korean car doesn't fall off after a few months. When you drive it, it doesn't rattle and creak over every bumb in the road. They are just better cars. Even though you pay a bit more for a Toyota, it's worth it because it isn't crap.

twcpfan1
04-24-2007, 06:39 PM
If GM would wake up and realize that economical, affordable cars need not be cheap pieces of crap, they would be fine. If they would devote the attention to quality control they give to the Cadillacs to the Cobalts, they would be fine.

Toyota has pulled ahead because they make good, everyday transportation that is well put together. The interior trim of a Japanese or Korean car doesn't fall off after a few months. When you drive it, it doesn't rattle and creak over every bumb in the road. They are just better cars. Even though you pay a bit more for a Toyota, it's worth it because it isn't crap.

It's a pity they don't market the little French cars that they drive in Europe made by either Renault, Peugeot or Citroen, in the United States.

Those are really really well built and reliable.

svfootball45
04-24-2007, 06:43 PM
The DB9 is an instant classic. I always thought it was my dream car until I drove a GT Continental out in Las Vegas. That is my dream car...:o I think... I keep going back and forth... I really need one of each.:p

I suppose if I bought the Bentley, I could live in it!:D

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Aston%20Martin/DB9/Coupe/2005_AstonMartin_DB9_ext_1.jpg

i love the DB-9's probably my favorite car ever besides a gallardo

Firebird
04-24-2007, 06:44 PM
It's a pity they don't market the little French cars that they drive in Europe made by either Renault, Peugeot or Citroen, in the United States.

Those are really really well built and reliable.

They really are good cars. I also wish they would bring over the baby Audi's.

I understand that DaimlerChrysler is attempting to relaunch the SMART car which flopped the first time in the states. I guess they are hoping that with gas edging ever nearer to 3 bucks a gallon, people will revist the small city runabout.

If I had the money, I would seriously consider buying one of these for a city-car and I would either drive it for myself or give it to my wife, whichever one of us drove more around town during the day, or had a long commute. Then I would have nice big crew cab that I drove the short commute and on long trips.

Here's an image of the Fortwo that will go on sale in 2008, in updated form:

http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/C1276349108/E1080162364/Media/Smart%20fortwo.jpg

twcpfan1
04-24-2007, 06:51 PM
Ahh. The Smart Car. You know I didn't think that the English would be brave enough to take one of these things onto the Motorway. But they actually do.

http://www.polipafo.com/Car_Hire_PP/gr_SC_Smart_Car.jpg

Firebird
04-24-2007, 06:53 PM
Ahh. The Smart Car. You know I didn't think that the English would be brave enough to take one of these things onto the Motorway. But they actually do.

http://www.polipafo.com/Car_Hire_PP/gr_SC_Smart_Car.jpg

I don't know about taking one of those things on the highway. Like I said, I could totally get behind using one for city driving, especially if I ended up living in some huge city where parking is at a premium.

But I would want to have something bigger with some juice for those long hauls.....a Dodge Ram Crew Cab would be nice.

ahsstud
04-24-2007, 07:01 PM
Course Ford has also been the champ in pickups in Tx for quite awhile.


ford has sucked since 2004 when they stopped putting the 7.3 in the trucks. dodge has always been the best i dont care what sales say. since the govt killed the dodges with the emissions laws chevy now has the best diesel on the market.

CCHS77
04-24-2007, 07:05 PM
Those Crown Vics have always been really dependable cars.

Course Ford has also been the champ in pickups in Tx for quite awhile.

I just heard Toyota has surpassed GM in sales for the first quarter.
GM has been on the decline for years.

Toyota passed GM in the world market, not the US.

Ford's financial situation has them struggling.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:08 PM
A lot of what firebird said I agree with. We also need to remember that the "Good old days" aren't always.

The roadsters he talks about, were in fact, an absolute blast to drive. Think of them as the pre-cursor to the Cobra 289, and then the Cobra 427. BUT, in true good old days fashion, we can't overlook how absolutely HORRIBLE the wiring was on many of the British Roadsters. Firebird talks about Healy, and MG. Let's not forget Tiumph as well. Lucas Electrics. There is a reason that the Brits drink their beer warm. They all has Lucas Refrigerators!

As of late, one of the best balanced cars I have driven is the Mazda RX-8. I was VERY surprised.

Ferrarris stand the test of time, because most people buy them and DON'T drive them. They are beautiful, exotic, delicate. They are not hearty. If you were to put one on US roads, and drive 100,000 miles, you would be sorely dissappointed. AND sorely, SORE!

Just remember euro car lovers, that Most GM products run bad, longer than most other cars run, period!


The beauty of the old British imports was that they were affordable enough that a normal person could keep one as a toy. Plus, you could work on them yourself, and since a lot made it to these shores, parts were plentiful. Working on them was part of the fun.

Ahhh, but the Triumph. My dad had a Triumph Spitfire when I was just a little bitty Firebird. (He had a thing for British sports cars). He used to let me sit on his lap and help him pull into the garage. The car was total crap. Poor quality plus not as fun to drive as the Healys or MGs. He eventually exchanged his for a year's worth of yard work from a teenage kid in the neighborhood, it was that crappy.

Here's a picture of a Triumph Spitfire similar to what he had, his was a late
70's model. They stopped making them in 1981.

http://www.britishcarlinks.com/1979%20Spitfire.jpg

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:09 PM
Toyota passed GM in the world market, not the US.

Ford's financial situation has them struggling.

It would suprise you, but GM, when they record a profit in recent years, does so in China. It's a huge market for them, and GM does quite well in that market. The Chinese love Buicks, of all things. A Buick is a status symbol.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:12 PM
Here is a pic of a 1962 Austin Healy Sprite like my dad had in HS. His was Navy Blue. Those things were a blast...no windows, no heater or a/c, no creature comforts at all.

http://frontiernet.net/~dbipes/AHSprite.jpg

CCHS77
04-24-2007, 07:14 PM
It's a pity they don't market the little French cars that they drive in Europe made by either Renault, Peugeot or Citroen, in the United States.

Those are really really well built and reliable.

All three were sold in the US, at one time, with no success.

Renault bought American Motors (which owned the Jeep product line) but resold to Chrysler when they could get the American public to embrace their cars.

Peugeot officially sold their cars thru their own dealers, but the American public was not interested. ( I remember that both gas and diesel products were under-powered, for Americans, styling funky, and only the actual diesel motors proved reliable in American driving habit hands)

I think the Citroens were just imported thru some Import dealers without official factory backing. I don’t think they proved very reliable, and did I mention funky styling?

twcpfan1
04-24-2007, 07:14 PM
Porsche also made a very affordable sports car back around 1970, the 914. It had a VW engine. I nearly picked one up about 10 years ago. A fully restored one for 2200.00. Still don't know why I passed it up. Guess it was a little excessive for a toy, based on my operating budget.

http://www.ts-video.com/pics/vw_porsche914.jpg

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:15 PM
Matthew 2000 Eagle....

Here ya go. 1975 Caddy El Dorado ragtop:

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/mycars/1975/mycadillac/75EldoConv.jpg

CCHS77
04-24-2007, 07:16 PM
It would suprise you, but GM, when they record a profit in recent years, does so in China. It's a huge market for them, and GM does quite well in that market. The Chinese love Buicks, of all things. A Buick is a status symbol.

Wouldn't surprise me. I saw the same news show on TV as you did!

CCHS77
04-24-2007, 07:17 PM
Porsche also made a very affordable sports car back around 1970, the 914. It had a VW engine. I nearly picked one up about 10 years ago. A fully restored one for 2200.00. Still don't know why I passed it up. Guess it was a little excessive for a toy, based on my operating budget.

http://www.ts-video.com/pics/vw_porsche914.jpg

The 916 was the one to have!

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:18 PM
yes it is. it belongs in the same category as these other american classics.


:puke :puke :puke

Say what you will about the El Camino, I'd take a 1970 El Camino SS in heartbeat. I'd want mine in "Hugger Orange" with black racing stripes:

http://www.universaltire.com/images/100_0260b.JPG

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:19 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. I saw the same news show on TV as you did!

Which one was that? I got that info out of one of the news magazines...can't remember if it was Time, Newsweek, or The Economist. I just remember chuckling, thinking of big-wig Chinese cruising around in Buicks.

Reaganrattler07
04-24-2007, 07:20 PM
First of all, in today's world no matter what car you buy you can guarantee that engineers and designers from at least two continents have had a say in the process.

If you are interested in pure quality control, then you can't go wrong with the Japanese cars at the moment. They have perfected the technique of consistently producing top-quality machinery. In terms of comfort and performance, the high-end Japanese marques are at least as good as the Germans. Probably better when it comes to reliability, and again, you get less hassle when you go in to repair it. (Incidentally, Cadillac is closing in and they are finally putting out some fascinating pieces of engineering.)

When it comes to the super-luxe and exotics, they are neat to see and read about, but they are for all intent and purposes museum pieces. Unless your name is Mario Williams, the only time you will use your Lambo is to tool down Rodeo Drive at about 25 mph and turn heads...look what I have. It's hell to insure them, and if you take them on a regular street at anything more than cruising speed, you are going to shed bits and pieces from your suspension. The only people who buy those cars are rich fanatics who can actually afford to take one out to the track for a day, and rich show-offs who think it will get them girls.

Ferrari and especially Porsche do put out some cars that are actually meant to be driven. They rarely are, for the simple fact that they cost so much, but you could feasibly take one out for a spin on a nice deserted piece of twisty road and uncork them. But, as has been pointed out, the Corvette in Z-06 trim will devour just about all of them, and run neck and neck with the upper-end Porsche Turbo. And you can take it in to the Chevy dealership to get it serviced. And now quality control has gone way up.

If you are a normal person with a real budget, however, you should to realize that for sheer driving pleasure and fun, most of those beasts are overkill. The average driver will get all the performance and fun he needs from pushing an S2000 or Miata to the limit. You can join a local club and actually race the thing, too. It is hard to beat the sheer joy in throwing around a lightweight, proportionatly powered car around. Once you have done it, you realize why weight is such a critical issue. A heavy car with the same power/weight ratio as a lighter car is just NOT the same. It really is too bad that safety regs have all but killed the little roadster, ala Healy, MG, Alfa Romeo, etc. Those cars were pure joy to drive on an everyman's budget.

Yes, Cadillac is finally cutting the gap but they are not worth what GM would like them to be. Personally I've never been a fan of Japanese cars. We had an MR2 (long before I could drive) and it was so-so. My dad had a Supra he liked.

The Vet, as I've said, is the only American type car that I believe should be ranked with the best of them. Except how many people exactly drives these? The number is even less with the Ferraris, Lambos and Porsches and finding good, trusting places to maintain them are about as common as seeing snow in the summer. At some point, I would like to have a Ferrari to just drive around on weekends and for recreation. But my usual, everyday car will always be the Mercedes S-Class. The Mazda RX-8 doesn't seem to bad, either.

RocketTRN
04-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Already been mentioned...but here ya go, my favorite. Chevelle 454 SS:
http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/blkchevdsfrt454.JPG

CCHS77
04-24-2007, 07:22 PM
Which one was that? I got that info out of one of the news magazines...can't remember if it was Time, Newsweek, or The Economist. I just remember chuckling, thinking of big-wig Chinese cruising around in Buicks.


One of the big Three news shows showed a dealership in China and then showed the cars, trying to navigate some of the streets and around many, many 2 wheelers.

Reaganrattler07
04-24-2007, 07:23 PM
They really are good cars. I also wish they would bring over the baby Audi's.

I understand that DaimlerChrysler is attempting to relaunch the SMART car which flopped the first time in the states. I guess they are hoping that with gas edging ever nearer to 3 bucks a gallon, people will revist the small city runabout.

If I had the money, I would seriously consider buying one of these for a city-car and I would either drive it for myself or give it to my wife, whichever one of us drove more around town during the day, or had a long commute. Then I would have nice big crew cab that I drove the short commute and on long trips.

Here's an image of the Fortwo that will go on sale in 2008, in updated form:

http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/C1276349108/E1080162364/Media/Smart%20fortwo.jpg


It'll be DaimlerBenz soon.....they wanna drop Chrysler like it's hot.

The Smart would probably be nice in a city like San Francisco.

RocketTRN
04-24-2007, 07:23 PM
Say what you will about the El Camino, I'd take a 1970 El Camino SS in heartbeat. I'd want mine in "Hugger Orange" with black racing stripes:

http://www.universaltire.com/images/100_0260b.JPG

http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/blkchevdsfrt454.JPG

lol they are the same dang car just a different back :D

the chevelle is way more beautiful...

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:23 PM
[QUOTE=cavalierdad;464024]Porsche also made a very affordable sports car back around 1970, the 914. It had a VW engine. I nearly picked one up about 10 years ago. A fully restored one for 2200.00. Still don't know why I passed it up. Guess it was a little excessive for a toy, based on my operating budget.

QUOTE]


Ferrari also tried to market a relatively affordable sports car back in the seventies, too. It was called the Dino, after Enzo's late son. It's too bad Ferrari didn't stick with it because it was a beautiful little car with a gem of a six-cylinder engine. I'd like to see them try to make something like that again to compete with Corvette at the lower end of the sports car spectrum. The engineering gains mean that you can get a lot of output from small engines.

http://www.automotoportal.com/media/images/vijesti/060915001.7.jpg

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:26 PM
Yes, Cadillac is finally cutting the gap but they are not worth what GM would like them to be. Personally I've never been a fan of Japanese cars. We had an MR2 (long before I could drive) and it was so-so. My dad had a Supra he liked.

The Vet, as I've said, is the only American type car that I believe should be ranked with the best of them. Except how many people exactly drives these? The number is even less with the Ferraris, Lambos and Porsches and finding good, trusting places to maintain them are about as common as seeing snow in the summer. At some point, I would like to have a Ferrari to just drive around on weekends and for recreation. But my usual, everyday car will always be the Mercedes S-Class. The Mazda RX-8 doesn't seem to bad, either.

I'd bet I see a late-model Vette on the road here in B/CS at least every other day. And if you find a good, reputable Chevy dealer, you can trust them with your 'Vette. I've known quite a few folks who used the 'Vette as their daily ride, and they raved about both the service from the dealer and the feasibility of driving them.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 07:27 PM
It'll be DaimlerBenz soon.....they wanna drop Chrysler like it's hot.

The Smart would probably be nice in a city like San Francisco.

Chrysler made bad bets on the Jeep Commander and the Chrysler Apsen. Market for huge sport-utes just collapsed.

RocketTRN
04-24-2007, 07:30 PM
I'd bet I see a late-model Vette on the road here in B/CS at least every other day. And if you find a good, reputable Chevy dealer, you can trust them with your 'Vette. I've known quite a few folks who used the 'Vette as their daily ride, and they raved about both the service from the dealer and the feasibility of driving them.

Yeah i see Corvettes every day and I live in i guess you could say a middle class area.

Reaganrattler07
04-24-2007, 07:36 PM
I'd bet I see a late-model Vette on the road here in B/CS at least every other day. And if you find a good, reputable Chevy dealer, you can trust them with your 'Vette. I've known quite a few folks who used the 'Vette as their daily ride, and they raved about both the service from the dealer and the feasibility of driving them.

That's kinda what I was saying...

Reaganrattler07
04-24-2007, 07:36 PM
Chrysler made bad bets on the Jeep Commander and the Chrysler Apsen. Market for huge sport-utes just collapsed.

Pretty much everything Chrysler has done has been bad bets...

DaimlerBenz knows it'll be much better off sticking to it's Mercedes and Maybach's.

Favpack
04-24-2007, 07:55 PM
'73 Lime Green Pinto - shuweet.

Firebird
04-24-2007, 09:33 PM
Pretty much everything Chrysler has done has been bad bets...

DaimlerBenz knows it'll be much better off sticking to it's Mercedes and Maybach's.

Nope... the 300 and Charger have been smashing successes for Chrysler, they are retooling plants to keep up with the demand. They earn rave reviews too. That car might save them.

t-long20
04-24-2007, 09:48 PM
'67 ford shelby even though im a chevy impala guy

http://www.fastcoolcars.com/images/wallpaper5/1967gt5007.jpg

Redhoss
04-24-2007, 10:47 PM
Toyota passed GM in the world market, not the US.

Ford's financial situation has them struggling.

Ford has been struggling since the recently appointed Ford became CEO.
They are following in GM's footsteps but GM has been doing this for years.

Redhoss
04-24-2007, 10:51 PM
Matthew 2000 Eagle....

Here ya go. 1975 Caddy El Dorado ragtop:

http://www.libertysoftware.be/cml/mycars/1975/mycadillac/75EldoConv.jpg

That was a BOAT. :)

Redhoss
04-24-2007, 10:53 PM
Already been mentioned...but here ya go, my favorite. Chevelle 454 SS:
http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/blkchevdsfrt454.JPG

One of my buds had one of those. He wasn't a very good driver so he would tell me to drive.
Now I'm not admitting anything but those deserted back roads were great for drag racing at night ;)

gtowndrumma
04-25-2007, 09:04 AM
my dad had a 69 Chevelle that would own everything back in the day. this was of course in his high school days and back when he still worked on his own cars. The only thing he didnt do to it was change up the rear end from the stock gearing and put in a high strength drive shaft, but that was all coming until he put it in a tree one night when he got too drunk.... i die a little bit on the inside every time we talk about it because it would have been mine

SV61
04-25-2007, 09:13 AM
Matthew 2000 Eagle....

Here ya go. 1975 Caddy El Dorado ragtop:



That was a BOAT. :)

Well if we are talking about boats, you HAVE to include this one:

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t58/rpattersonII/59Cadillac-11.jpg

THE Drop top to have.

Redhoss
04-25-2007, 12:51 PM
Yeah, now that one looks like an Elvis boat.

#1DawgFan
04-25-2007, 05:17 PM
***-u-me.

I do know more about Mercedes, many of which is first-hand knowledge. No, I do not own an SLR or SL55.

And odds are you shouldn't ***-u-me anything.

I am not really sure what you are saying to me but I am guessing you are still in high school. Am I right?

ktCarl
04-25-2007, 05:19 PM
They really are good cars. I also wish they would bring over the baby Audi's.

I understand that DaimlerChrysler is attempting to relaunch the SMART car which flopped the first time in the states. I guess they are hoping that with gas edging ever nearer to 3 bucks a gallon, people will revist the small city runabout.

If I had the money, I would seriously consider buying one of these for a city-car and I would either drive it for myself or give it to my wife, whichever one of us drove more around town during the day, or had a long commute. Then I would have nice big crew cab that I drove the short commute and on long trips.

Here's an image of the Fortwo that will go on sale in 2008, in updated form:

http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/C1276349108/E1080162364/Media/Smart%20fortwo.jpg


That thing looks like an insect and wouldn't drive it on a Texas highway!!

Firebird
04-25-2007, 05:21 PM
That thing looks like an insect and wouldn't drive it on a Texas highway!!

Neither would I, but I would sure zip about town in one of those things. Park it anywhere and fill er up once a month...works for me.

ktCarl
04-25-2007, 05:25 PM
Neither would I, but I would sure zip about town in one of those things. Park it anywhere and fill er up once a month...works for me.

I guess the car was designed for downtown commuting only. If one of those came in orange it would look like a lady bug. :D