So I was drinking seven beers...

[mad_fan]

...and thinking...if there were 30 of us...
...sitting around...drinking seven beers (each)...
...and a guy walked in with two handguns blazing...
...how many of us would die...

If it was me and 29 of my former military police buds...
I would say 2... maybe 3 before he freeked as we rushed him...hit the ground...and was done in by one of the weapons he brought...

I am sad about the way we raise the next generation..

[toddg]

...and thinking...if there were 30 of us...
...sitting around...drinking seven beers (each)...
...and a guy walked in with two handguns blazing...
...how many of us would die...

If it was me and 29 of my former military police buds...
I would say 2... maybe 3 before he freeked as we rushed him...hit the ground...and was done in by one of the weapons he brought...

I am sad about the way we raise the next generation..

i here ya..and am in total agreement.
if they ever make handguns in the shape of playstation/and or xbox controllers..we in trouble.

[LUFPAN]

...and thinking...if there were 30 of us...
...sitting around...drinking seven beers (each)...
...and a guy walked in with two handguns blazing...
...how many of us would die...

If it was me and 29 of my former military police buds...
I would say 2... maybe 3 before he freeked as we rushed him...hit the ground...and was done in by one of the weapons he brought...

I am sad about the way we raise the next generation..

That's training there my friend....you always attack your way through an ambush you don't run. If you do, more will die.

[wide-e-wide]

That's training there my friend....you always attack your way through an ambush you don't run. If you do, more will die.

The gospel truth there my friend.

[svfootball45]

...and thinking...if there were 30 of us...
...sitting around...drinking seven beers (each)...
...and a guy walked in with two handguns blazing...
...how many of us would die...

If it was me and 29 of my former military police buds...
I would say 2... maybe 3 before he freeked as we rushed him...hit the ground...and was done in by one of the weapons he brought...

I am sad about the way we raise the next generation..

uuummmm yyyaaaaa we can tell you have had seven beers

[mad_fan]

That's training there my friend....you always attack your way through an ambush you don't run. If you do, more will die.

It's teaching...what are we teaching the kids nowadays...pc bs...
and roll over...play dead...or my favorite...screw everybody else...
and just out a freaking window...
the pussification of america is almost complete...

[mad_fan]

uuummmm yyyaaaaa we can tell you have had seven beers

ohhhh...I had more than seven...
I just stopped posting...
The board's not big enough for two farmers...:p
(during off season)...;)

[lonny23]

...and thinking...if there were 30 of us...
...sitting around...drinking seven beers (each)...
...and a guy walked in with two handguns blazing...
...how many of us would die...

If it was me and 29 of my former military police buds...
I would say 2... maybe 3 before he freeked as we rushed him...hit the ground...and was done in by one of the weapons he brought...

I am sad about the way we raise the next generation..
I'm bothered that 30 people died, too. I've always said that I'd do my best to take down a gunman knowing that I'm not armed. Seriously, if a gunman comes in, why would you sit and cower and stuff like that when he's probably going to shoot you anyway? I'd do my best to save lives even if it meant losing my own. If I had a gun, you better believe I'd shoot.

[lonny23]

uuummmm yyyaaaaa we can tell you have had seven beers
It has nothing to do with 7 beers. You don't sit and cower at the bad guy. You defeat the bad guy. Those guys play off of our fears. If you want to harm me, my family, or my friends, you better believe I want to hurt you first.

I guess it's a good thing I'm in the military!:p

[K-Rock]

It has nothing to do with 7 beers. You don't sit and cower at the bad guy. You defeat the bad guy. Those guys play off of our fears. If you want to harm me, my family, or my friends, you better believe I want to hurt you first.

I guess it's a good thing I'm in the military!:p

My wife and I talked about this and we agree with you guys. I don't want to die, but I could not sit by and watch or hear others being killed and not do something about it.

This self absorbed generation has no clue about sacrifice. There are a few exceptions (military, fireman, police, etc...), but most would jump out the window and write a book later about their horrible ordeal.

Instead of buying these books and letting them on TV, the public should condemn them for being cowards. Jump out the window and run while your classmates and friends get killed. Man, that's worth a book deal. :rolleyes:

[Firebird]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

[svfootball45]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

what happened at UT

[K-Rock]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

Dude, you have a serious attitude problem.
Did your mommy not hug you when you were little?

[mad_fan]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

Now I realize I have some military training that gives me an edge over the average civilian...but give me a freakin break...
Even a civilian knows to step behind a building...and not get shot from a tower...
They weren't face-to-face...
They had no idea what was going on or if they did...where the bullets were coming from...

[mad_fan]

Dude, you have a serious attitude problem.
Did your mommy not hug you when you were little?

:rolleyes:

[mad_fan]

Mowing the yard...1 beers
Weedeating, edging for 40 minutes...2 beers
Blowing the crap from the oak trees around the yard...priceless...


ps priceless=4 beers


Time to fire up the BBQ....:D

[Firebird]

Now I realize I have some military training that gives me an edge over the average civilian...but give me a freakin break...
Even a civilian knows to step behind a building...and not get shot from a tower...
They weren't face-to-face...
They had no idea what was going on or if they did...where the bullets were coming from...



The point is, that every generation has had its moments where someone went nuts in an unexpected setting, and very rarely has some mythical great generation handled it differently.

I think it's strange that some guy who referred to college kids who got fired on in French class as "cowards" thinks I have an attitude problem.

If anyone here has actually been under fire, I'll listen to their criticisms. If they haven't again, it's just "talk" about what you might have done. Big words from people who haven't been there.

[wide-e-wide]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

yeah but at least my generation didn't wear women's jeans and smoke duct tape...
sorry that's the best I could come up with right now i'm busy

[K-Rock]

:rolleyes:

Do you need a hug too. Maybe then you wouldn't be mad. ;)

[Firebird]

Luby's, Killeen Texas, 1991.

When the bullets started flying there, no one in a cafe full of 30-50 year olds bum rushed the guy. People only escaped because one guy threw himself through a window.

Again, you're an idiot for calling those poor people at VT cowards. You don't know for sure what you might do.

[wide-e-wide]

Do you need a hug too. Maybe then you wouldn't be mad. ;)

I want a hug.......................but not from you.
I chooooose.....let's see.....LeeAnn Tweeden.

[K-Rock]

I want a hug.......................but not from you. I chooooose.....let's see.....LeeAnn Tweeden.

:puke

I was talking about them needing a hug from their mother.

[wide-e-wide]

:puke

I was talking about them needing a hug from their mother.

Talking about mommas.....how boorish of you K-rock.

[elprezidente]

what happened at UT

wha....what?? are you serious noob? the tower sniper?? all those people died? what once was the worst slaying on a college campus? anything ringing a bell??

[elprezidente]

I want a hug.......................but not from you.
I chooooose.....let's see.....LeeAnn Tweeden.

wide, stop playing hard-to-get with k-rock. its bad enough that you give firebird the cold shoulder :eek:

and i :puke

[mad_fan]

Do you need a hug too. Maybe then you wouldn't be mad. ;)

That's what the prozac is for...thank you...now...drop and play dead...

[HUM398]

I want a hug.......................but not from you.
I chooooose.....let's see.....LeeAnn Tweeden.

:D

[svfootball45]

wha....what?? are you serious noob? the tower sniper?? all those people died? what once was the worst slaying on a college campus? anything ringing a bell??

the noob has now become old you should try nancy then after you use that one twice you can think of some thing new :D

[lonny23]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done
Yes and no.

I know it's easy to say what you would've done, but there are some people like me who sit around and think about this stuff. I've had stuff pounded in my head for so long that I don't take it for granted that all will go well. I have to take tests every year about what to do in potentially dangerous situations and how to spot them. I'm not lying when I say I'd do my best to kill you if you want to kill me. I wouldn't feel a bit of remorse about it either. I'm not a violent person, but I sure want to survive.

[mad_fan]

The point is, that every generation has had its moments where someone went nuts in an unexpected setting, and very rarely has some mythical great generation handled it differently.

I think it's strange that some guy who referred to college kids who got fired on in French class as "cowards" thinks I have an attitude problem.

If anyone here has actually been under fire, I'll listen to their criticisms. If they haven't again, it's just "talk" about what you might have done. Big words from people who haven't been there.

:eek: Every generation since when...the 60's...

I'd not call them cowards...but my point was we need to change what we teach our children about life and death...

[lonny23]

Mowing the yard...1 beers
Weedeating, edging for 40 minutes...2 beers
Blowing the crap from the oak trees around the yard...priceless...


ps priceless=4 beers


Time to fire up the BBQ....:D
You must have 3 hands....

or you took a lot of breaks!:D

[twcpfan1]

Are the Brazilian models giving out hugs?

[mad_fan]

Are the Brazilian models giving out hugs?

YES...but you have to bring a twelve pack...
PM me for directions...:D

[Firebird]

:eek: Every generation since when...the 60's...

I'd not call them cowards...but my point was we need to change what we teach our children about life and death...

Mass public shootings are a new phenom....they got started in about the 1960's so it is pointless to speculate what might have happened in earlier generations.

In 1915 a person went on a spree in GA, before being taken down by a civilian. But he had a gun, he did't bum rush him.


http://www.google.com/url?q=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Virginia_Tech_Shooting_Strangers.html&e=17415&sa=X&oi=news&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFrqEzfEzvkB8GWqqPpEvgV_ZLbqzEr-Pw

[lonny23]

Luby's, Killeen Texas, 1991.

When the bullets started flying there, no one in a cafe full of 30-50 year olds bum rushed the guy. People only escaped because one guy threw himself through a window.

Again, you're an idiot for calling those poor people at VT cowards. You don't know for sure what you might do.
I agree that most people will run, but some people are as cold-blooded as they come. For my .02, anybody that is a Christian shouldn't be afraid to die.

I'm not lying when I tell you that I've thought about this stuff almost my whole life. I was living in Longview sometime between 1978-1981 when some cat came into First Baptist in Daingerfield and started shooting people. I've seen movies of bank robberies and stuff like that. Long before I ever thought about joining the military, I was thinking what I would do if I saw a gunman. I have never and never will waver from planning to take out the bad guy. I've got angels that can protect me so I'm not worried. If I die, it was my time to go but I owe it to my fellow man to try to do something.

Now don't get me wrong. I think people are stupid if they get up and start running at a guy in open view. I advocate a covert attack and to close the distance before attacking, but you must be planning an attack.

The people who day-to-day have the more dangerous jobs will be a lot more likely to attack a bad guy.

[lonny23]

I want a hug.......................but not from you.
I chooooose.....let's see.....LeeAnn Tweeden.
I think LeeAnn needs to do an 8th USO Tour. The guy behind me at the Drew Brees/Donnie Edwards signing asked why he was waiting in line? He said LeeAnn should be there if he's going to wait in line!:D

[lonny23]

:eek: Every generation since when...the 60's...

I'd not call them cowards...but my point was we need to change what we teach our children about life and death...
Every generation since the 60's has been chicken and it gets worse. They'd have a fight on their hands in the old days, on a military installation, or in the country, and in many places in the southern USA.

[mojotrain]

Please spare me:rolleyes:

Cal-State Fullerton 1976, McDonalds 1984, University of Texas 1960's....

Every generation has had its mass murderers who come in and shoot up people, and I can't recall any brave civilians storming the UT tower. Everyone there ran, too.

It's all cheap talk, sitting around pondering what you "would" have done

Thats not the way it happened at all. Read it and don't come back with the russians took the tower back.

Harry S. Truman the greatest American President!:rolleyes:

[wide-e-wide]

Mass public shootings are a new phenom....they got started in about the 1960's so it is pointless to speculate what might have happened in earlier generations.

In 1915 a person went on a spree in GA, before being taken down by a civilian. But he had a gun, he did't bum rush him.


http://www.google.com/url?q=http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Virginia_Tech_Shooting_Strangers.html&e=17415&sa=X&oi=news&ct=result&cd=1&usg=AFrqEzfEzvkB8GWqqPpEvgV_ZLbqzEr-Pw

Thank you for once again educating us. We are but poor foolish agricultural laborers...you know....boorish folk.
We should all aspire to be as omnipotent as Firebird when we grow up...
this guy has the world by the short and curlys...he is the man.

[wide-e-wide]

I think LeeAnn needs to do an 8th USO Tour. The guy behind me at the Drew Brees/Donnie Edwards signing asked why he was waiting in line? He said LeeAnn should be there if he's going to wait in line!:D

You guys get LeeAnn Tweeden...all I ever got was Garth Brooks and Drew Carey...not fair...not fair at all.:D

[mad_fan]

You guys get LeeAnn Tweeden...all I ever got was Garth Brooks and Drew Carey...not fair...not fair at all.:D

The first Gulf War...I saw a bunch of oriental girls and a dude singing crap disco songs...

[lonny23]

You guys get LeeAnn Tweeden...all I ever got was Garth Brooks and Drew Carey...not fair...not fair at all.:D
That's because she likes airmen!:p

Her dad was in the Air Force.

[lonny23]

You guys get LeeAnn Tweeden...all I ever got was Garth Brooks and Drew Carey...not fair...not fair at all.:D
Oh, yeah. They make sure they send NFL Cheerleaders and NBA Dance Squads through, too!:D

[wide-e-wide]

The first Gulf War...I saw a bunch of oriental girls and a dude singing crap disco songs...

You can't call them oriental anymore...the preferred term is Asian-American.

signed


sincerly,
My Korean ex-wife
I hate her btw.

[Firebird]

Thank you for once again educating us. We are but poor foolish agricultural laborers...you know....boorish folk.
We should all aspire to be as omnipotent as Firebird when we grow up...
this guy has the world by the short and curlys...he is the man.

I never claimed to know it all....just more than you;)

[lonny23]

I never claimed to know it all....just more than you;)
That's like winning 2nd Prize at a beauty pageant!:p

[wide-e-wide]

I never claimed to know it all....just more than you;)

ha
I doubt it.
drop you off with no money and no cell phone in the middle of the hood...
Big money says I make it and you get beat down.
Book knowledge ain't everything young buck....
there is street knowledge and book knowledge....I HAVE BOTH.

[elprezidente]

ha
I doubt it.
drop you off with no money and no cell phone in the middle of the hood...
Big money says I make it and you get beat down.
Book knowledge ain't everything young buck....
there is street knowledge and book knowledge....I HAVE BOTH.

you seriously understimate the valley, no joke bro.

same rules for you and we'll drop you off in el rancho and see if the coyotes(dogs) or the coyotes(people) will get you.

[wide-e-wide]

you seriously understimate the valley, no joke bro.

same rules for you and we'll drop you off in el rancho and see if the coyotes(dogs) or the coyotes(people) will get you.

been there and done that...not scared bro
Go to Bed-stuy in NYC...coyotes won't even f with that neighborhood.

[elprezidente]

been there and done that...not scared bro
Go to Bed-stuy in NYC...coyotes won't even f with that neighborhood.

sorry man but a nieghborhood aint gonna scare me, idky but it doesnt. maybe once the thugs come out with some gats and what not ill worry, but as far as walkin down a street ill do that.

[wide-e-wide]

sorry man but a nieghborhood aint gonna scare me, idky but it doesnt. maybe once the thugs come out with some gats and what not ill worry, but as far as walkin down a street ill do that.

Been going to deer leases in south Texas since I was 10...wild hogs,coyotes and drunk Mexicans don't scare me either.
However the Jamaica train from Brooklyn to Queens at 3am scared the hell out of me.

[elprezidente]

Been going to deer leases in south Texas since I was 10...wild hogs,coyotes and drunk Mexicans don't scare me either.
However the Jamaica train from Brooklyn to Queens at 3am scared the hell out of me.
you met my uncles??:D