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jrock210
04-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Jeff Bagwell is a true legend. He has taught me so many great things and he is the only person I really enjoyed listening to in press conferances. I had the honor of being at the game where he hit his 300th homerun and it was right above my head and at that same game I nearly caught 299. As the Astros CEO said before the game friday "Jeff Bagwell is Astrso baseball." Phil Garner was asked who was the face of the Astros both past and present and his responce was Jeff because of his power and Biggio because of his speed. If you believe he took teroids you don't deserve to be called a fan. I have seen his past and present and he looks a little more buff but throughout the years he grew. It was never one major change and it stays the same. He was always progressing in life and always took out the time to help a fan out. I'm proud to say he is an Astros and I believe a Hall of Famer.

Long Live #5
Retirement of his jersey will happen on Easter sunday and today is Jeff Bagwell Day.

BlackandRed05
04-07-2007, 11:05 AM
Jeff Bagwell is a true legend. He has taught me so many great things and he is the only person I really enjoyed listening to in press conferances. I had the honor of being at the game where he hit his 300th homerun and it was right above my head and at that same game I nearly caught 299. As the Astros CEO said before the game friday "Jeff Bagwell is Astrso baseball." Phil Garner was asked who was the face of the Astros both past and present and his responce was Jeff because of his power and Biggio because of his speed. If you believe he took teroids you don't deserve to be called a fan. I have seen his past and present and he looks a little more buff but throughout the years he grew. It was never one major change and it stays the same. He was always progressing in life and always took out the time to help a fan out. I'm proud to say he is an Astros and I believe a Hall of Famer.

Long Live #5
Retirement of his jersey will happen on Easter sunday and today is Jeff Bagwell Day.

Bagwell had a great career at Houston, no doubt, but maybe, just maybe he had a little help growing.

#1DawgFan
04-07-2007, 11:09 AM
Bagwell is one of my all time favorite Astros!:cool:

CCDawg
04-07-2007, 11:14 AM
The last Astros game I went to, it was a few years ago, 3-4 years. I had a friend that really wanted to go so I took her down to Houston. They gave away these little pennants to the first 10,000 people, or whatever. After the game, my friend wanted to find out where the players left from, so we walked around the outside of the park until we saw a little group of people waiting. After waiting for an hour or so the players started driving out one by one, a couple stopped to wave, most just sped by the little congregation, except one player.

One player pulled over to the side of the driveway as he was exiting the stadium, toward our little group, he stopped his car, rolled down the window, and started signing the little pennants, Caps, Baseballs, whatever we had. He stayed there until all 20-30 of us had an autograph. That one player was Jeff Bagwell.

I've never been a huge Astros fan, but I have always been and will always be a Jeff Bagwell fan.

#1DawgFan
04-07-2007, 11:22 AM
The last Astros game I went to, it was a few years ago, 3-4 years. I had a friend that really wanted to go so I took her down to Houston. They gave away these little pennants to the first 10,000 people, or whatever. After the game, my friend wanted to find out where the players left from, so we walked around the outside of the park until we saw a little group of people waiting. After waiting for an hour or so the players started driving out one by one, a couple stopped to wave, most just sped by the little congregation, except one player.

One player pulled over to the side of the driveway as he was exiting the stadium, toward our little group, he stopped his car, rolled down the window, and started signing the little pennants, Caps, Baseballs, whatever we had. He stayed there until all 20-30 of us had an autograph. That one player was Jeff Bagwell.

I've never been a huge Astros fan, but I have always been and will always be a Jeff Bagwell fan.

Outstanding story!!!!
I have an opposite story I would like to share to show how different players act. We have a AA minor league team here in Midland and several years ago Troy Glaus played here. They would have promotions where the players would sign autographs for everyone an hour or so before the games. Troy refused to do it without charging the fans for every autograph. He said he was going to be a superstar and he wasn't going to waste time dealing with the fans here. He is one player I actually wish falls on his face. I can't stand him. Worthless human being IMO

Firebird
04-07-2007, 11:26 AM
Outstanding story!!!!
I have an opposite story I would like to share to show how different players act. We have a AA minor league team here in Midland and several years ago Troy Glaus played here. They would have promotions where the players would sign autographs for everyone an hour or so before the games. Troy refused to do it without charging the fans for every autograph. He said he was going to be a superstar and he wasn't going to waste time dealing with the fans here. He is one player I actually wish falls on his face. I can't stand him. Worthless human being IMO

Wow.....just.....wow. A minor league ball player charging for his autograph because he's "gonna" be a superstar. That's a new one. You never ceased to be amazed.

jrock210
04-07-2007, 12:50 PM
I have great experiances with Astros games. One time me and my Dad came to the game as the gates were opening and about 20 fans were there. So we went inside and had great seats right behind the Astros dugout. My Dad was just about to go to Iraq so he had wanted this to be a great game just in case. We went and stood by the dugout as the players began entering the dugout and they saw us and started signing our stuff. 1 by 1 by 1 by 1 every player in the dugout got our hat, bat, and my ball and passed it around in the dugout and signed it. They even had a runner take it to the bullpen and sign it.

ahsstud
04-07-2007, 02:46 PM
when stud was just a wee little terd, stud went to an astros game with his uncle and stud sr. it was at the dome and it was randy johnson's first game as an astro. anyways we ended up sitting right next to J.R. Richard himself. stud had no idea who he was because stud was probably 12 or 13 at the time but that man was so cool. him and stud sr. talked baseball and shot the bull the entire game and stud was amazed at what the man knew. at the end of the game dad gave me a baseball that we were gona try and get autographed by the stros after the game, and said hey, ask that man for his autograph. at the time stud was like "why would i want joe schmo signing my astros baseball?" J.R. is one of stud's favorites after that night

wide-e-wide
04-07-2007, 03:01 PM
All of you forget that Bagwell hurt the team tremendously over the last two seasons. He refused to admit that he was unhealthy and would not restructure his contract. He cost them 20+ million and prevented them from signing free agents that could have helped the team.
You can sing his praises all you want...
I'm being real here...the guy hurt the team and that is what I will think of immediately when his name is brought up.
Look at '05....
Biggio was making less than 3mil and playing every day. Bagwell made 18mil and didn't play a lick. That is what pissed me off.

CCDawg
04-07-2007, 03:13 PM
All of you forget that Bagwell hurt the team tremendously over the last two seasons. He refused to admit that he was unhealthy and would not restructure his contract. He cost them 20+ million and prevented them from signing free agents that could have helped the team.
You can sing his praises all you want...
I'm being real here...the guy hurt the team and that is what I will think of immediately when his name is brought up.
Look at '05....
Biggio was making less than 3mil and playing every day. Bagwell made 18mil and didn't play a lick. That is what pissed me off.


I wasn't aware baseball had a salary cap. He also didn't prevent them from making their first World Series appearance.

I'm not saying he helped, I'm just saying, on that one specific night Craig Biggio sped past us and Jeff Bagwell didn't. ;)

BlackandRed05
04-07-2007, 03:21 PM
I wasn't aware baseball had a salary cap. He also didn't prevent them from making their first World Series appearance.

I'm not saying he helped, I'm just saying, on that one specific night Craig Biggio sped past us and Jeff Bagwell didn't. ;)

Didnt Lamb play 1st base during the WS ? Just asking.

wide-e-wide
04-07-2007, 03:46 PM
I wasn't aware baseball had a salary cap. He also didn't prevent them from making their first World Series appearance.

I'm not saying he helped, I'm just saying, on that one specific night Craig Biggio sped past us and Jeff Bagwell didn't. ;)

Baseball doesn't have a salary cap...but this is the Astros not the Yankees or Red Sox. They don't have an extra 18mi to pay a guy that doesn't play.
If Bags loved the team so much...and was "The Astros" and all that jazz. Why didn't he go to Drayton and take a cut. Troy Aikman did it a couple of times...Emmitt did it once. If he is such a team guy why did he eat up money that could have been spent on free agents? It's BS and it pains me to say it because I was a fan of his for years.

and BlackandRed...
Berkman played first base along with Lamb and I think Viscaino may have played a few innings if I remember correctly.

BlackandRed05
04-07-2007, 07:29 PM
Baseball doesn't have a salary cap...but this is the Astros not the Yankees or Red Sox. They don't have an extra 18mi to pay a guy that doesn't play.
If Bags loved the team so much...and was "The Astros" and all that jazz. Why didn't he go to Drayton and take a cut. Troy Aikman did it a couple of times...Emmitt did it once. If he is such a team guy why did he eat up money that could have been spent on free agents? It's BS and it pains me to say it because I was a fan of his for years.

and BlackandRed...
Berkman played first base along with Lamb and I think Viscaino may have played a few innings if I remember correctly.
Thanks Wide, I was just curious about it.

jrock210
04-07-2007, 10:47 PM
wide you disapoint me. This is something to praise the legend known as Bagwell and he may have cost the money but he is still an all out nice guy. Money is something that you can never buy it's something you earn...lol that made no sense but still think about it. If you could buy momney people that enherited fortunes could double up. lol ok it's too late at night if you know what I'm saying. Hnestly I probably would have done the same thing.

pack0808
04-08-2007, 12:15 AM
wide you disapoint me. This is something to praise the legend known as Bagwell and he may have cost the money but he is still an all out nice guy. Money is something that you can never buy it's something you earn...lol that made no sense but still think about it. If you could buy momney people that enherited fortunes could double up. lol ok it's too late at night if you know what I'm saying. Hnestly I probably would have done the same thing.



Hey I agree with wide in the last 2 years no question BUT! If you look at the several times Bagwell chose much less money to stay with the stros it kind of evens out. Not to mention the owners good give a crap about a player. They will screw you over in a second.

t-long20
04-08-2007, 12:17 AM
Money is something that you can never buy it's something you earn...lol that made no sense but still think about it. If you could buy momney people that enherited fortunes could double up. lol ok it's too late at night if you know what I'm saying. Hnestly I probably would have done the same thing.

ofcourse you cant buy money that whole post made no sense at all

lonny23
04-08-2007, 05:08 AM
Wow.....just.....wow. A minor league ball player charging for his autograph because he's "gonna" be a superstar. That's a new one. You never ceased to be amazed.
Our former car salesman at work has stories about the different guys coming through Oklahoma City and Omaha and how some were true jerks and others were nice guys when it came to signing.

lonny23
04-08-2007, 05:11 AM
when stud was just a wee little terd, stud went to an astros game with his uncle and stud sr. it was at the dome and it was randy johnson's first game as an astro. anyways we ended up sitting right next to J.R. Richard himself. stud had no idea who he was because stud was probably 12 or 13 at the time but that man was so cool. him and stud sr. talked baseball and shot the bull the entire game and stud was amazed at what the man knew. at the end of the game dad gave me a baseball that we were gona try and get autographed by the stros after the game, and said hey, ask that man for his autograph. at the time stud was like "why would i want joe schmo signing my astros baseball?" J.R. is one of stud's favorites after that night
J.R. Richard was filthy in the late 70's with the 'stros. He suffered a stroke in 1980 or 1981 before a game and never was the same. I want to say it was 1980 and that might be the only thing to keep the 'stros from winning the World Series that year or the next.

lonny23
04-08-2007, 05:12 AM
All of you forget that Bagwell hurt the team tremendously over the last two seasons. He refused to admit that he was unhealthy and would not restructure his contract. He cost them 20+ million and prevented them from signing free agents that could have helped the team.
You can sing his praises all you want...
I'm being real here...the guy hurt the team and that is what I will think of immediately when his name is brought up.
Look at '05....
Biggio was making less than 3mil and playing every day. Bagwell made 18mil and didn't play a lick. That is what pissed me off.
Bagwell has always been one of my favorites, but I am upset about the last 2 years.

wide-e-wide
04-08-2007, 01:17 PM
J.R. Richard was filthy in the late 70's with the 'stros. He suffered a stroke in 1980 or 1981 before a game and never was the same. I want to say it was 1980 and that might be the only thing to keep the 'stros from winning the World Series that year or the next.

J.R. was also living under a bridge right outside of the Astrodome at one point. Astros fans drove right passed him on the way to games...and had no idea it was him. That's just sad.

jakerz
04-08-2007, 01:41 PM
I love Jeff Bawell. Amazing guy...

#1DawgFan
04-08-2007, 03:00 PM
I love Jeff Bawell. Amazing guy...

who is Jeff Bawell? and maybe you shouldn't come out of the closet on this forum. These folks can be mean:D

jrock210
04-08-2007, 05:17 PM
who is Jeff Bawell? and maybe you shouldn't come out of the closet on this forum. These folks can be mean:D

Wow he leads trhe Astros in HR he is pretty much the face of the Astros.

jrock210
04-08-2007, 05:17 PM
ofcourse you cant buy money that whole post made no sense at all

I know it was kinda late at night :D ;)

CCDawg
04-08-2007, 05:54 PM
Wow he leads trhe Astros in HR he is pretty much the face of the Astros.

Oh come on, #1DawgFan jokingly asked "Who is Jeff Bawell", he obviously knows Jeff Bagwell.

wide-e-wide
04-08-2007, 06:05 PM
Wow he leads trhe Astros in HR he is pretty much the face of the Astros.

Ever heard of Nolan Ryan?

#1DawgFan
04-08-2007, 06:24 PM
Oh come on, #1DawgFan jokingly asked "Who is Jeff Bawell", he obviously knows Jeff Bagwell.

right over his head.....;)

jakerz
04-08-2007, 06:25 PM
I know it was kinda late at night :D ;)

Come on SIP!

mtbray
04-08-2007, 09:03 PM
Thank you for pointing out the spelling error jakerz. If I was going to devote an entire thread to a person, I would certainly make an attempt at spelling their name correctly. Happy Easter everyone.

jrock210
04-09-2007, 08:22 AM
Ever heard of Nolan Ryan?

Ya I've heard of him but according to Phil Garner and the Astros Commisioner Jeff Bagwell (and Phil Garner believes Biggio as well) is the face of the Astros

lonny23
04-09-2007, 08:29 AM
Ever heard of Nolan Ryan?
That brings up a good topic of who it really is. Bagwell and Biggio have filled that role since 1988 and 1991 respectively, but it was Nolan's from 1980-1988. Before Nolan, there was Jose Cruz and guys like Joe Niekro and J.R. Richard. They had Jimmy Wynn back in the 60's. The Killer B's have held it longer than anybody else.

jrock210
04-09-2007, 06:12 PM
That brings up a good topic of who it really is. Bagwell and Biggio have filled that role since 1988 and 1991 respectively, but it was Nolan's from 1980-1988. Before Nolan, there was Jose Cruz and guys like Joe Niekro and J.R. Richard. They had Jimmy Wynn back in the 60's. The Killer B's have held it longer than anybody else.

Ya but I do agree that Nolan Ryan should have some mention in the face of the Astros. I mean cmon he helped build a new minor league team for the stros (CC Hooks)