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Dog Will Hunt
04-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Would you let him Back? Better yet, would you play on his team?



Ricky Williams applies for reinstatement
Miami, FL (Sports Network) - Miami Dolphins running back Ricky Williams, who was suspended one year by the NFL for violating the league's drug policy, has applied for reinstatement.

According to the Miami Herald, Williams confirmed to ESPN Radio on Friday that he sent a hand-written letter to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and underwent a clinical evaluation.

Williams was suspended by the NFL last April for his fourth violation of the league's anti-drug policy. He reportedly failed a drug test for a banned substance that was not marijuana. The first three violations for Williams came after he tested positive for marijuana.

In the radio interview, Williams also stated he does not smoke marijuana anymore and instead he participates in yoga.

Unable to play in the NFL last season, Williams inked a one-year deal in May with the Toronto Argonauts of the Canadian Football League. With the Argos, Williams rushed for 623 yards on 124 carries and caught 24 passes for 193 yards. He also missed two months of the season due to a broken arm.

Williams won the Heisman Trophy in 1998 and captured the NFL rushing title in 2002 when he ran for 1,853 yards.

svhorns
04-06-2007, 07:22 PM
Hell yea I'd want Ricky on my team... what the guy does in his personal life really isnt my business... as long as he works hard in practices does what he needs to do and produces in the game... this is the NFL were talking about not High School... its his job...

jtk1519
04-06-2007, 07:26 PM
Hell yeah. He'll probably get the veterans minimum or not much more so he'll be cheap and his playing in the CFL only improved his versatility. He would fit perfectly in a dual-back system. jtk would love to see Tennessee acquire Michael Turner and then pick up Ricky cheap. Right now, jtk would gladly take a cheap and older Ricky over LenWhale and his dozen chocolate glazed a day diet.

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 08:36 PM
Let all the idiots pass on Ricky...I'll take him...and I'll beat your brains in with him.

#1DawgFan
04-06-2007, 09:07 PM
Ricky will be back only long enough to fire up a fat boy and fail another drug screen. Loads of talent no intelligence.

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 09:11 PM
Ricky will be back only long enough to fire up a fat boy and fail another drug screen. Loads of talent no intelligence.

Might want to check the academic All-American lists from the late '90s bro.

jtk1519
04-06-2007, 09:33 PM
Ricky hasn't tested positive for marijuana in years. Almost 4 years according to the NFL themselves.

#1DawgFan
04-06-2007, 10:36 PM
Might want to check the academic All-American lists from the late '90s bro.

What I am saying is, he had all the talent to be one of the leagues best for several years yet chose to smoke pot and throw it away. Not very intelligent. Book smart is great but you need common sense and he seems to be well short on that.

#1DawgFan
04-06-2007, 10:37 PM
Ricky hasn't tested positive for marijuana in years. Almost 4 years according to the NFL themselves.

maybe I should have just said drugs...the guy is a zero

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 10:40 PM
maybe I should have just said drugs...the guy is a zero

I'll still take him...and I'll beat you with him all day.
Pothead or not...he's a helluva RB. Look at his numbers.

#1DawgFan
04-06-2007, 10:58 PM
I'll still take him...and I'll beat you with him all day.
Pothead or not...he's a helluva RB. Look at his numbers.

never said he wasn't a great running back. just said he was not very intelligent as far as his career goes and that is just a fact

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 11:10 PM
never said he wasn't a great running back. just said he was not very intelligent as far as his career goes and that is just a fact

[KT2000]that's a fact in my opinion...[KT2000]

jtk1519
04-06-2007, 11:19 PM
maybe I should have just said drugs...the guy is a zero

He got busted for a dietary supplement. Remember, this is the same NFL that suspended a player last year for testing positive because of his asthma medication. Not only did they suspend him, but they didn't even reverse the suspension when they found out it was prescribed medication. Ricky has made some moves some may call dumb, but the last one was the NFL in all of it's stupidity.

#1DawgFan
04-06-2007, 11:33 PM
He got busted for a dietary supplement. Remember, this is the same NFL that suspended a player last year for testing positive because of his asthma medication. Not only did they suspend him, but they didn't even reverse the suspension when they found out it was prescribed medication. Ricky has made some moves some may call dumb, but the last one was the NFL in all of it's stupidity.

admirable attempt at a defense for Ricky but his troubles are widely known and he has brought them on his self. I have no respect for the man at all. He has wasted a God given talent IMO.

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 11:34 PM
admirable attempt at a defense for Ricky but his troubles are widely known and he has brought them on his self. I have no respect for the man at all. He has wasted a God given talent IMO.

wasted a talent?
What is he 70 now?
Let's tap the brakes until we see what Lil' Earl does when he comes back m'kay?

jtk1519
04-06-2007, 11:35 PM
admirable attempt at a defense for Ricky but his troubles are widely known and he has brought them on his self. I have no respect for the man at all. He has wasted a God given talent IMO.

jtk doesn't care much for him either and has said more than that before, but jtk would still trade a couple of late round picks for him.

wide-e-wide
04-06-2007, 11:42 PM
jtk doesn't care much for him either and has said more than that before, but jtk would still trade a couple of late round picks for him.

I bet 10 years ago jtk would have stood in line to have one of his babies though wouldn't he?
Dawg...why you sellin' out Horns...and Heisman trophy winning Horns at that?

toddg
04-06-2007, 11:52 PM
knucklehead decisions or not, id still take my chances with him if i was an NFL gm.

CCDawg
04-07-2007, 12:23 AM
Add me to the list of people that would still love to have Ricky on their team.

elprezidente
04-07-2007, 02:18 AM
the man is a beast. nuff said. suit him up

Texasfrog
04-07-2007, 08:51 AM
He'll get back in and he'll get a shot because it's a bargin type of deal. Some GM will get a cheap RB that might still have some NFL caliber talent in him.

What scares me about R. Williams (if I was a NFL GM) is his motivation. I think he is more or less a "Team Killer" and that's why I'm not sure I would want him around the team. I'm not talking about Texas when he was there but I'm talking the NFL.

But, he'll get a shot and he might actually be an average NFL RB. The superstar "Pro Bowl" days are over though. I dont think he has any of that ability or enough in the tank to sustain 16 games as a NFL RB.

He might make a good one-two punch like Chicago and the Colts did last year.

jrock210
04-07-2007, 09:21 AM
Hell yea I'd want Ricky on my team... what the guy does in his personal life really isnt my business... as long as he works hard in practices does what he needs to do and produces in the game... this is the NFL were talking about not High School... its his job...

But if you were the owner would you take him back. I'm a Dolphin fan and think Ricky is a good running back but I would not take him back. The drug tests he fails will catch up with the Fins and they will lose money from fines and paying his contract. When his contract is up I believe he wil be out of Miami.

Texasfrog
04-07-2007, 09:35 AM
But if you were the owner would you take him back. I'm a Dolphin fan and think Ricky is a good running back but I would not take him back. The drug tests he fails will catch up with the Fins and they will lose money from fines and paying his contract. When his contract is up I believe he wil be out of Miami.

I dont think he'll ever put on a Fins uniform again. They'll let him sign with someone else and make one of those performance level trades.

jrock210
04-07-2007, 09:48 AM
I dont think he'll ever put on a Fins uniform again. They'll let him sign with someone else and make one of those performance level trades.

Ya same here. That's probably why they drafter Brown because they probably thought Ricky would get in trouble again.

Firebird
04-07-2007, 11:23 AM
He's worth the league minimum for a vet. Def. worth taking that chance.

t-long20
04-07-2007, 11:58 AM
He's worth the league minimum for a vet. Def. worth taking that chance.

ill take him too he was in the cfl earlier its not like he was sitting on the couch doin nothing

jtk1519
04-07-2007, 01:16 PM
Ricky is not a "team killer" and never has been which is probably why most of his teammates and coaches speak so highly of him. They know that when Ricky's on the field, he gives 110% on every single play and his number show that. Ricky is an always has been a good teammate and a great person to have on the field and in the locker room. His only problems have come outside of those environments.

Dog Will Hunt
04-07-2007, 01:38 PM
There is still a slim chance Ricky can make it back, it won't be where he could of been (The Top), but we are all human. The best thing Ricky did for help himself was to fire his Gangster Agent and hire Leigh Steinberg. I got to know Ricky pretty well while he was on the 40 acres and he is a good person. He just made some poor choices in his life and he deserves another chance. Wish him the Best. Horns up Ricky. Never forget...... THE EYES OF TEXAS

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-07-2007, 06:01 PM
Like someone else said, Ricky played ball last season before he got hurt, so he wasn't sitting around chillin' all day. This man runs between, and around the tackles, not to mention, has the breakaway speed of a legit homerun threat. Ricky is your every-down back that doesn't have to come out of the game. Oh, and from what I hear, playing in the CFL improves your versatility. Ricky has also proved that he can be successful behind an average offensive line. If he doesn't end up playing for the Dolphins again, then he'll end up somewhere. If you ask me, this has Cleveland Browns written all over it.

Texasfrog
04-07-2007, 06:04 PM
Ricky is not a "team killer" and never has been which is probably why most of his teammates and coaches speak so highly of him. They know that when Ricky's on the field, he gives 110% on every single play and his number show that. Ricky is an always has been a good teammate and a great person to have on the field and in the locker room. His only problems have come outside of those environments.

Well, living in Miami and listening to some of the sports radio stations and them doing interviews of some of the Fin players. I would suggest different buddy. There was many of them that didnt have many nice things to say about Mr. Ricky. Then many others let their "Silent comments" speak very loudly.;)

Texasfrog
04-07-2007, 06:09 PM
Like someone else said, Ricky played ball last season before he got hurt, so he wasn't sitting around chillin' all day. This man runs between, and around the tackles, not to mention, has the breakaway speed of a legit homerun threat. Ricky is your every-down back that doesn't have to come out of the game. Oh, and from what I hear, playing in the CFL improves your versatility. Ricky has also proved that he can be successful behind an average offensive line. If he doesn't end up playing for the Dolphins again, then he'll end up somewhere. If you ask me, this has Cleveland Browns written all over it.

I dont know if playing in the CFL really improves a players versatility. They do throw the ball 90% of the time so you can expect a RB to get a few more catches. Most of those shuffle passes and screens. The field is bigger. I just dont know or really see how a RB can improve much in the CFL.

Now, QB's, WR's and DB's could probably improve their game but RB's. I dont really think so.

The truth about Ricky Williams is he getting ready to turn 30, He has been a "problem child" for most of his NFL career, he has wear and tear with some injuries, and he is a ticking time bomb for going off into "left field" at any second. He'll get a job but he'll be a shell of his former self and I seriously doubt he'll be the main guy at RB. I do think he would make a nice "one-two punch" with him being the "Two" in the punch.

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-09-2007, 11:27 AM
I dont know if playing in the CFL really improves a players versatility. They do throw the ball 90% of the time so you can expect a RB to get a few more catches. Most of those shuffle passes and screens. The field is bigger. I just dont know or really see how a RB can improve much in the CFL.

Now, QB's, WR's and DB's could probably improve their game but RB's. I dont really think so.

The truth about Ricky Williams is he getting ready to turn 30, He has been a "problem child" for most of his NFL career, he has wear and tear with some injuries, and he is a ticking time bomb for going off into "left field" at any second. He'll get a job but he'll be a shell of his former self and I seriously doubt he'll be the main guy at RB. I do think he would make a nice "one-two punch" with him being the "Two" in the punch.

Good post Frog, and I understand where you're coming from. But, the only way we'll find out is when he suits up. I still see the Browns going after him.

mojotrain
04-09-2007, 12:36 PM
admirable attempt at a defense for Ricky but his troubles are widely known and he has brought them on his self. I have no respect for the man at all. He has wasted a God given talent IMO.
I'm with you here dawg. No matter how good you are if you can't make it to work every day your nothing to the people you work for. Real issues or percieved issues he has put himself in this position. He needs to use the education he recieved expence free in college and go get a real job until he grows up.

pack0808
04-09-2007, 12:56 PM
I saw an interview with him on 60 seconds or something like that recently. Guy is as nice and well spoken as one can be but just a little off in the head. He still is young and he still has a shot to contribute to an NFL team. But at the same time, he has not proven to be a reliable teammate in the NFL yet. You never know from one day to the next with him it seems. I just do not think his heart is in football anymore and I think he simply needs the money. Predicting what ricky williams is going to do is pointless. Nobody knows? I do not even think he knows!

Texasfrog
04-09-2007, 02:16 PM
I saw an interview with him on 60 seconds or something like that recently. Guy is as nice and well spoken as one can be but just a little off in the head. He still is young and he still has a shot to contribute to an NFL team. But at the same time, he has not proven to be a reliable teammate in the NFL yet. You never know from one day to the next with him it seems. I just do not think his heart is in football anymore and I think he simply needs the money. Predicting what ricky williams is going to do is pointless. Nobody knows? I do not even think he knows!

He isnt actually young for NFL RB standards. He is about to turn 30 and that's usually the age that NFL RB's start to decline "on average."

He'll get a shot.. I just dont expect much out of him. I know he loves Texas so it would be interesting to see if Dallas or Houston makes a move for him. He might be a good "ticket revenue maker" for either club.

jrock210
04-09-2007, 07:22 PM
ill take him too he was in the cfl earlier its not like he was sitting on the couch doin nothing

He played a few games and then broke his arm in the CFL. He had a few practices or whatever but after getting hurt he hasn't practiced much.

Reaganrattler07
04-09-2007, 11:38 PM
Same people who were all over Manley for drugs are the same ones defending Ricky for rollin' up joints.

pack0808
04-10-2007, 10:27 AM
He isnt actually young for NFL RB standards. He is about to turn 30 and that's usually the age that NFL RB's start to decline "on average."

He'll get a shot.. I just dont expect much out of him. I know he loves Texas so it would be interesting to see if Dallas or Houston makes a move for him. He might be a good "ticket revenue maker" for either club.



Yeah you make a good point. I did not realize he was about to turn 30? That is considered old for a NFL rb. But then again, Ricky has not been taking the beating and bruising that a normal 30 year old NFL rb has either. He has hardly played for several years now.

SGP 06 Alumni
04-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Same people who were all over Manley for drugs are the same ones defending Ricky for rollin' up joints.

thank you! i was waiting for someone to post that. i like ricky's style of play, but his character needs a make over!

BlackandRed05
04-10-2007, 07:00 PM
Same people who were all over Manley for drugs are the same ones defending Ricky for rollin' up joints.

I thought the same thing from the start.

#1DawgFan
04-10-2007, 07:18 PM
Did you forget where Williams went to college?;) He has a built in defense team no matter what he does at least on here anyway.

jtk1519
04-10-2007, 07:43 PM
Who is Manley?

wide-e-wide
04-10-2007, 08:18 PM
Same people who were all over Manley for drugs are the same ones defending Ricky for rollin' up joints.

Let me know when Ricky tests positive for cocaine and goes to prison not once but twice for it.
You can also be on the lookout for Ricky robbing people to feed his cocaine addiction...as far as I know that's never happened either.

c'mon dude...that was a terrible attempt...you can do better than that.

Reaganrattler07
04-10-2007, 08:59 PM
Let me know when Ricky tests positive for cocaine and goes to prison not once but twice for it.
You can also be on the lookout for Ricky robbing people to feed his cocaine addiction...as far as I know that's never happened either.

c'mon dude...that was a terrible attempt...you can do better than that.

Drugs are drugs in my opinion.

slorch
04-10-2007, 09:14 PM
Drugs are drugs in my opinion.

OK, but the robbing part?

wide-e-wide
04-10-2007, 10:31 PM
OK, but the robbing part?

And are "going to prison twice" and "not going to prison at all" the same thing too?

wide-e-wide
04-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Drugs are drugs in my opinion.

So should we put LeBron James in jail for doing Coca-Cola commercials?
Caffiene..........drugs are drugs right?

ahsstud
04-10-2007, 10:33 PM
Drugs are drugs in my opinion.

there's a reason you can get probation for a possesion of marijuana charge and get 10 years for having the same amount of powder cocaine

wide-e-wide
04-10-2007, 10:37 PM
there's a reason you can get probation for a possesion of marijuana charge and get 10 years for having the same amount of powder cocaine

Because marijuana will cause you to beg your Grandma for money to buy some....
Cocaine will cause you to hit your Grandma in the head and take her purse when she says no.

elprezidente
04-10-2007, 11:26 PM
Drugs are drugs in my opinion.

come on now. me poppin a xanbar and crashing on the couch and someone doing some hit of the red devil are in NOWAY the same.

its okay in acouple years maryjane will be legal anyways.(still wouldnt touch the stuff)

HUM398
04-11-2007, 09:34 AM
come on now. me poppin a xanbar and crashing on the couch and someone doing some hit of the red devil are in NOWAY the same.

its okay in acouple years maryjane will be legal anyways.(still wouldnt touch the stuff)

Sure:rolleyes:

ktCarl
04-11-2007, 01:20 PM
Hell yea I'd want Ricky on my team... what the guy does in his personal life really isnt my business... as long as he works hard in practices does what he needs to do and produces in the game... this is the NFL were talking about not High School... its his job...

It's your business if you sign him, pay him $$ and he starts abusing some other drug that the NFL prohibits. I would let some other team have him as their problem.

elprezidente
04-11-2007, 03:06 PM
Sure:rolleyes:swear on my grandmas grave ive never hit the chiba

CFlb38 08
04-11-2007, 06:43 PM
Hell yea I'd want Ricky on my team... what the guy does in his personal life really isnt my business... as long as he works hard in practices does what he needs to do and produces in the game... this is the NFL were talking about not High School... its his job...

yeah but its like pac man jones..you can't let your personal S#$@ get in the way of your job..just like anyother work.

BlackandRed05
04-11-2007, 07:43 PM
swear on my grandmas grave ive never hit the chiba

Never? I cant say that!

elprezidente
04-11-2007, 08:03 PM
Never? I cant say that!
i had to rethink it, but yea.

i said chiba.

BlackandRed05
04-11-2007, 08:29 PM
i had to rethink it, but yea.

i said chiba.

Chiba is what I meant.

Bootsdaddy
04-12-2007, 12:53 AM
Ricky suspended for smoking weed and he's considered a scumbag. No one has much to say when players like Shawne Merriman are suspended for steroids. All of it sponsored by Budweiser. Oh, the hypocrisy.

wide-e-wide
04-12-2007, 01:05 AM
Ricky suspended for smoking weed and he's considered a scumbag. No one has much to say when players like Shawne Merriman are suspended for steroids. All of it sponsored by Budweiser. Oh, the hypocrisy.

agree totally

Matthew 2000 Eagle
04-12-2007, 01:34 PM
Ricky suspended for smoking weed and he's considered a scumbag. No one has much to say when players like Shawne Merriman are suspended for steroids. All of it sponsored by Budweiser. Oh, the hypocrisy.

And Ricky also went to school in a state that people are jealous of (Texas).

#1DawgFan
04-12-2007, 01:48 PM
Wrong is wrong and illegal is illegal

not that hard to figure out

jtk1519
04-12-2007, 01:53 PM
Wrong is wrong and illegal is illegal

not that hard to figure out

Then why has he never been convicted in a court of law?