Billy Gillespie is stringing the Aggies along

[txhsfootballfan]

As an Aggie and a real admirer of Billy Gillespie, I am disappointed in the cloak and dagger methods he is using to advance his career. Unquestionably one of the best coaches in the country, he has "agreed in principle" to a new contract with the Aggies but has made himself unavailable to sign the contract due to "other commitments". I wonder if that includes Kentucky's knock on his door. If he wants to leave the Aggies for a more storied program (actually A&M doesn't have a real basketball story), that is certainly understandable. But letting his current school publicly offer him the world and agreeing to accept that offer and then stalling behind the scenes for more time while he works on getting what he really wants make him just like all the other "in it for the money" guys. That is not classy and the way he has preached ethics and accountability to his players makes him appear to be a first-class hypocrite for what he is doing now.

[drgnbkr]

This process is really no different from any other job change process...you are courted by another company, you certainly can't tell your current company about it, or your co-workers, and you weigh your options. It's even better if your so good at what you do that you have more than one bidder for your services. If you try and throw in "what about the kids?" I don't buy it because these are not high school kids any longer...they are college students on a free ride. It isn't going to change any time soon...There is a huge amount of money involved...follow the money...And egos....

[my3sons]

Gillespie is officially gone! He has left College Station to go to Kentucky.

[RedRage00]

This process is really no different from any other job change process...you are courted by another company, you certainly can't tell your current company about it, or your co-workers, and you weigh your options. It's even better if your so good at what you do that you have more than one bidder for your services. If you try and throw in "what about the kids?" I don't buy it because these are not high school kids any longer...they are college students on a free ride. It isn't going to change any time soon...There is a huge amount of money involved...follow the money...And egos....


Exactly

[jtk1519]

He strung along only those that allowed themselves to be strung along. It was quite obvious when he didn't sign the extension that A&M was "plan B". Anybody who believed otherwise simply stuck their head in the ground. The reality is that this is a business and the business reality is that Kentucky is a much more prestigious brand name in the world of college basketball than Texas A&M.

[jtk1519]

If you do want to criticize BCG though, do it because he didn't bother to tell his players in person. He text messaged them this morning from Kentucky to let them know he was taking the UK job. Not cool, but perhaps that's karma. Franochio did the exact same thing when he left Bama for A&M. Coaches move on, but coaches that move on and don't have it in them to tell their players face to face are a different breed.

[txhsfootballfan]

If you do want to criticize BCG though, do it because he didn't bother to tell his players in person. He text messaged them this morning from Kentucky to let them know he was taking the UK job. Not cool, but perhaps that's karma. Franochio did the exact same thing when he left Bama for A&M. Coaches move on, but coaches that move on and don't have it in them to tell their players face to face are a different breed.

That is my point exactly.

[jtk1519]

That is pretty low. jtk won't argue that.

[DragonBand06]

I guess the good we get out of this is that we will still have upgraded facilities... They've already begun construction so they will go ahead as planned.

[wide-e-wide]

still no answer...
Does this mean aggy isn't a "basketball school" anymore?

[GoOwls]

With all the Aggie tension on the board, I have to be careful how I word this so as not to anger the horde.

The aggies I see and hear who are complaining about BCG, are hypocrites. They didn't blink when they stole Fat-chione from Bama the same way.

How does it feel coming back at ya, guys and gals?

Yes, B-Ball is dead now at aggieland....it left with Billy Clyde and Acie.

Acie is to Aikman as BCG is to Jimmy Johnson, and there are no Emmit Smiths or Michael Irvins on the team. Pray tell, now that BCG is gone, why any kid would want to go to A&M now to play B-Ball? All the reasons to go there just left.

Cut the collective head off the beast and it dies.

Back to 0-16 in conference really soon, I fear.

[DragonBand06]

With all the Aggie tension on the board, I have to be careful how I word this so as not to anger the horde.

The aggies I see and hear who are complaining about BCG, are hypocrites. They didn't blink when they stole Fat-chione from Bama the same way.

How does it feel coming back at ya, guys and gals?

Yes, B-Ball is dead now at aggieland....it left with Billy Clyde and Acie.

Acie is to Aikman as BCG is to Jimmy Johnson, and there are no Emmit Smiths or Michael Irvins on the team. Pray tell, now that BCG is gone, why any kid would want to go to A&M now to play B-Ball? All the reasons to go there just left.

Cut the collective head off the beast and it dies.

Back to 0-16 in conference really soon, I fear.
We definitely won't be near as good, but I guarantee you won't see another 0-16 year while I'm in college.

[GoOwls]

We definitely won't be near as good, but I guarantee you won't see another 0-16 year while I'm in college.

I know you can't tell from my wording, but I was just using the 0-16 thing to make a point. A&M isn't a B-Ball school and all hopes of it becoming one left yesterday. Texas was in a similar boat until Penders was hired and followed up by Barnes. The long term consistencey has made them a consistant Top 20 team. I dont' think BCG's short tenure has convinced many top recruits that A&M is a B-Ball school.....hence my doubt of future success.

[farmerfan]

With all the Aggie tension on the board, I have to be careful how I word this so as not to anger the horde.

The aggies I see and hear who are complaining about BCG, are hypocrites. They didn't blink when they stole Fat-chione from Bama the same way.

How does it feel coming back at ya, guys and gals?

Yes, B-Ball is dead now at aggieland....it left with Billy Clyde and Acie.

Acie is to Aikman as BCG is to Jimmy Johnson, and there are no Emmit Smiths or Michael Irvins on the team. Pray tell, now that BCG is gone, why any kid would want to go to A&M now to play B-Ball? All the reasons to go there just left.

Cut the collective head off the beast and it dies.

Back to 0-16 in conference really soon, I fear.

Thats an ignorant statement at best.
What BCG did while at A&M was show that A&M can become a good basketball school. They have the commitment in place by the administration and athletic department to keep the momentum they have built and some up and coming coach at a mid-major will see this and be just fineat A&M.
They also have a good nucleus coming back next year in Sloan, Kirk, Jones, Davis and a few other fish on camp[us that will contribute.
For you as a horn fan to say that aggie basketball is lost with BCG and Law is arrogant at best.
For you to think they cant get another good coach is stupid. A&M will not go into the cellar again like you think and hope they do and will to your "surprise" hire a good coach trust me on that.

[farmerfan]

I know you can't tell from my wording, but I was just using the 0-16 thing to make a point. A&M isn't a B-Ball school and all hopes of it becoming one left yesterday. Texas was in a similar boat until Penders was hired and followed up by Barnes. The long term consistencey has made them a consistant Top 20 team. I dont' think BCG's short tenure has convinced many top recruits that A&M is a B-Ball school.....hence my doubt of future success.

So Billy Clyde is the only good coach in America?
Theres no chance for the ags to land a top up and coming coach from a mid major I guess.
They might has well shut down the entire basketball program now. :rolleyes:

[#1DawgFan]

Thats an ignorant statement at best.
What BCG did while at A&M was show that A&M can become a good basketball school. They have the commitment in place by the administration and athletic department to keep the momentum they have built and some up and coming coach at a mid-major will see this and be just fineat A&M.
They also have a good nucleus coming back next year in Sloan, Kirk, Jones, Davis and a few other fish on camp[us that will contribute.
For you as a horn fan to say that aggie basketball is lost with BCG and Law is arrogant at best.
For you to think they cant get another good coach is stupid. A&M will not go into the cellar again like you think and hope they do and will to your "surprise" hire a good coach trust me on that.

You are being way to kind to him. If ignorance is bliss he must be euphoric

[Firebird]

I'm the same way. I don't know if we will get a wunderkind like BCG, but the recent experience has shown a few things to coaches across the country:

1. You can win at A&M
2. If you do win, you'll get shown the $$$
3. You can convince recruits to BCS


And we are still getting our new facilities. We won't be as good without BCG, but 0-16...I don't think so. I think we get another good coach and try to keep some of the momentum going. We shall see.

[#1DawgFan]

I'm the same way. I don't know if we will get a wunderkind like BCG, but the recent experience has shown a few things to coaches across the country:

1. You can win at A&M
2. If you do win, you'll get shown the $$$
3. You can convince recruits to BCS


And we are still getting our new facilities. We won't be as good without BCG, but 0-16...I don't think so. I think we get another good coach and try to keep some of the momentum going. We shall see.

You may be surprised at how well we recover from this. BCG was great for the school but we have had nothing to compare him to. There are some very good coaches out there and I think we will hit the ground running.

[78 Spartan]

Not surprisingly, overstatements from both sides of this argument.

Nobody should blame Gillispie for jumping at the chance to coach basketball at Kentucky. It's not about the money -- no doubt TAMU could have offered to match the dollars he was offered. If you were the CEO of the First National Bank of Colorado, you'd be silly not to see the job of CEO of Bank of America as an upgrade. If you are a competitive person, you are motivated by increasingly large challenges on increasingly large stages. That's what's going on here.

I also think Gillispie's handled this thing with a lot of class relative to other examples I've seen recently. By allowing the Ags to offer him the higher contract but not signing it, he kept the moral high ground IMHO. The only thing he should have done differently is to make UK wait one day while he told his A&M players in a face-to-face meeting. I think that was a faux pas.

[Firebird]

Not surprisingly, overstatements from both sides of this argument.

Nobody should blame Gillispie for jumping at the chance to coach basketball at Kentucky. It's not about the money -- no doubt TAMU could have offered to match the dollars he was offered. If you were the CEO of the First National Bank of Colorado, you'd be silly not to see the job of CEO of Bank of America as an upgrade. If you are a competitive person, you are motivated by increasingly large challenges on increasingly large stages. That's what's going on here.

I also think Gillispie's handled this thing with a lot of class relative to other examples I've seen recently. By allowing the Ags to offer him the higher contract but not signing it, he kept the moral high ground IMHO. The only thing he should have done differently is to make UK wait one day while he told his A&M players in a face-to-face meeting. I think that was a faux pas.

I agree with this...he should have told his players to his face. On the other hand, I don't mind him negotiating his contract and then leaving....that's a standard business tactic. He didn't know for sure about UK, and a bird in the hand.....

[txhsfootballfan]

With all the Aggie tension on the board, I have to be careful how I word this so as not to anger the horde.

The aggies I see and hear who are complaining about BCG, are hypocrites. They didn't blink when they stole Fat-chione from Bama the same way.

How does it feel coming back at ya, guys and gals?

Yes, B-Ball is dead now at aggieland....it left with Billy Clyde and Acie.

Acie is to Aikman as BCG is to Jimmy Johnson, and there are no Emmit Smiths or Michael Irvins on the team. Pray tell, now that BCG is gone, why any kid would want to go to A&M now to play B-Ball? All the reasons to go there just left.

Cut the collective head off the beast and it dies.

Back to 0-16 in conference really soon, I fear.

Ignorant.

[jtk1519]

I don't think the Aggies are in that bad of a situation. BCG did the toughest job already. When trying to turn around a losing program, the hardest thing to do is to change the mentality. To convince a losing program that it can win and BCG has already done that. All A&M needs is a guy that will come in and continue the work and inspire the players. A&M is at a crossroads in many respects and the direction they go will be dependent upon who A&M hires.

I'm usually against hiring a "name" coach, but this is a case where I think that a "name" is what the Aggies need. They need a coach with a recognized name and a great resume to show that A&M is not a stepping stone for all coaches... that it can be a destination job for the right coach. They need to reaffirm to the players and fans that the A&M men's basketball program is going in the right direction and they can do all of that by hiring a big name coach. I think Byrne needs to hit a homerun with this hire and he can't be scared to spend. He was going to pay BCG $1.75 and he needs to be out there dangling a $1.5-$2 million check to lure a top shelf coach. That's not to say that a less recognized mid-major coach or assistant couldn't come in and coach up the kids just as well, but this transition needs to be smoothed. The Aggies are still young in terms of being a winning program and it wouldn't take much to destroy what was built the past couple of years. This should be an exciting time for the Ags, but it should be a cautious excitement.

[KT2000]

Matt Doherty.

He got a bit of a raw deal at UNC in my opinion. He deserved another year. He recruited the team that won the National Title in 2005.

He is an outstanding recruiter. He has a ring from his playing days. He would be a great, great hire for a program like A&M, but I haven't heard his name being floated around.

He is at SMU right now. He is a guy who would recruit extremely well, and get quality players in College Station.

Reggie Theus is a popular name being tossed around right now.

[jtk1519]

Matt Doherty.

He got a bit of a raw deal at UNC in my opinion. He deserved another year. He recruited the team that won the National Title in 2005.

He is an outstanding recruiter. He has a ring from his playing days. He would be a great, great hire for a program like A&M, but I haven't heard his name being floated around.

He is at SMU right now. He is a guy who would recruit extremely well, and get quality players in College Station.

Reggie Theus is a popular name being tossed around right now.

Doherty would be an outstanding hire. He hasn't been here long, but he could recruit Texas and his East Coast ties could probably open the doors for some prized OOS kids. His recruiting class this year has been very good including a few good OOS prospects.

[78 Spartan]

Doherty needs to prove he can build something competitive in CUSA before I'd be convinced he can compete in the Big XII. He inherited a great program at UNC and they couldn't get him out of there fast enough.

SMU is like a "rehab assignment" for him. Before you get called back up to the bigs, you ought to be clobbering AAA pitching.

SMU was awful this year. Dallas has plenty of great basketball talent to supply SMU with a team that ought to compete with Memphis (think: Acie Law). If I were the Ags, I'd wait to see Doherty prove something first.

[jtk1519]

Doherty needs to prove he can build something competitive in CUSA before I'd be convinced he can compete in the Big XII. He inherited a great program at UNC and they couldn't get him out of there fast enough.

SMU is like a "rehab assignment" for him. Before you get called back up to the bigs, you ought to be clobbering AAA pitching.

SMU was awful this year. Dallas has plenty of great basketball talent to supply SMU with a team that ought to compete with Memphis (think: Acie Law). If I were the Ags, I'd wait to see Doherty prove something first.

Doherty had only been an HC for one year when he was hired by UNC. It was too much too soon and he spent this season coaching talent that wasn't really his. This class he just signed is proof that he can bring in talent.

[KT2000]

Doherty needs to prove he can build something competitive in CUSA before I'd be convinced he can compete in the Big XII. He inherited a great program at UNC and they couldn't get him out of there fast enough.

Doherty walked into Baddour's (AD) mistake. They set the program back a good 4-5 years by turning the program over the Bill Guthridge. Gut is a great coach, but they needed to go younger as opposed to hiring a coach at the end of his coaching days. Gut wasn't a very good recruiter.

Doherty wasn't given a chance to succeed given they didn't allow him to see his first recruiting class through campus. That wasn't a fair evaluation in my opinion. I saw enough following the program during his tenure to warrant a longer stay.

Roy Williams won the National title with all Doherty players except one, Marvin Williams.

Doherty deserved two-three years more to prove his worth (one at the very least). He really did get a raw deal, and you won't find many Heels fans who will disagree with that. Roy Williams said as much when he took the job. He told Baddour that he was not happy about how that was handled.

[jtk1519]

I read that Roy actually considered turning the job down again just because of the way Doherty's firing was handled.

KT, your a Heel fan with a better memory than myself... Why was Doherty hired in the first place? He was a head coach for one season at Notre Dame before UNC hired him. Was there a lot of buzz surrounding him or something? Seems odd for an elite level program like UNC to after such a young and inexperienced coach.

[CCDawg]

I read that Roy actually considered turning the job down again just because of the way Doherty's firing was handled.

KT, your a Heel fan with a better memory than myself... Why was Doherty hired in the first place? He was a head coach for one season at Notre Dame before UNC hired him. Was there a lot of buzz surrounding him or something? Seems odd for an elite level program like UNC to after such a young and inexperienced coach.


I'm no North Carolina fan, but as I remember it they wanted to keep it in "the North Carolina family". Roy Williams turned them down at the time, George Karl, Larry Brown and a couple others said they weren't interested and Doherty was the next best choice.

[KT2000]

KT, your a Heel fan with a better memory than myself... Why was Doherty hired in the first place? He was a head coach for one season at Notre Dame before UNC hired him. Was there a lot of buzz surrounding him or something? Seems odd for an elite level program like UNC to after such a young and inexperienced coach.

Doherty was hired after Roy Williams, Larry Brown and George Karl received inquiries. Doherty was considered a hot prospect in the coaching ranks, and enhanced that by his early performance at Notre Dame.

Doherty worked as a stock broker in NYC before deciding to get into coaching. North Carolina wanted to keep it in the Carolina family, and Doherty was the best younger coaching prospect after the more experienced. Buzz Peterson was also, but had just moved to Tennessee (from Appalachian State) around that time.

Karl wanted to coach UNC badly, but he was not given permission to discuss the opportunity by the NBA team he was coaching at the time (Bucks?). Brown was also interested but said the timing was wrong. He wouldn't have been there long anyway.

Most Carolina fans at the time thought Karl would get it if given permission, which he was denied.

One mistake Doherty probably did make was not including other Tar Heel coaches on his staff. He brought his whole ND staff with him, and that ruffled a few feathers. Many thought he should hire Phil Ford, Brad Daugherty and people like that to help get the program back on track. I personally don't fault him for that.

[lonny23]

Doherty walked into Baddour's (AD) mistake. They set the program back a good 4-5 years by turning the program over the Bill Guthridge. Gut is a great coach, but they needed to go younger as opposed to hiring a coach at the end of his coaching days. Gut wasn't a very good recruiter.

Doherty wasn't given a chance to succeed given they didn't allow him to see his first recruiting class through campus. That wasn't a fair evaluation in my opinion. I saw enough following the program during his tenure to warrant a longer stay.

Roy Williams won the National title with all Doherty players except one, Marvin Williams.

Doherty deserved two-three years more to prove his worth (one at the very least). He really did get a raw deal, and you won't find many Heels fans who will disagree with that. Roy Williams said as much when he took the job. He told Baddour that he was not happy about how that was handled.
I'm not going to knock Doherty just because Roy Williams won the title. To me, Roy Williams is the basketball version of Mack Brown. He only won a title when his roster was loaded.

[yallerjacket]

With all the Aggie tension on the board, I have to be careful how I word this so as not to anger the horde.

The aggies I see and hear who are complaining about BCG, are hypocrites. They didn't blink when they stole Fat-chione from Bama the same way.

How does it feel coming back at ya, guys and gals?

Yes, B-Ball is dead now at aggieland....it left with Billy Clyde and Acie.

Acie is to Aikman as BCG is to Jimmy Johnson, and there are no Emmit Smiths or Michael Irvins on the team. Pray tell, now that BCG is gone, why any kid would want to go to A&M now to play B-Ball? All the reasons to go there just left.

Cut the collective head off the beast and it dies.

Back to 0-16 in conference really soon, I fear.

A&M didn't "steal" Franchione from "Bama. Just like Kentucky didn't "steal" BCG from A&M. So there's nothing "coming back at us".

As far as basketball being dead at A&M, what makes you think they won't get a good coach and recruiter to replace Gillispie? I think I'll wait and see what happens next.

[KT2000]

He only won a title when his roster was loaded.

Most people do. :)

[wide-e-wide]

I'm not going to knock Doherty just because Roy Williams won the title. To me, Roy Williams is the basketball version of Mack Brown. He only won a title when his roster was loaded.

Jimmy Johnson won 2 Super Bowls...but it was only because his roster was loaded.:rolleyes:

[Reaganrattler07]

If you do want to criticize BCG though, do it because he didn't bother to tell his players in person. He text messaged them this morning from Kentucky to let them know he was taking the UK job. Not cool, but perhaps that's karma. Franochio did the exact same thing when he left Bama for A&M. Coaches move on, but coaches that move on and don't have it in them to tell their players face to face are a different breed.

Fran was told by the Bama AD not to set foot on campus or something to that effect, right? He basically didn't have a chance to address his players in person from what I've heard.

I didn't mind Gillispie leaving, I thought he was a great coach who could possibly have done great things. But the way he did them pissed me off.

[jtk1519]

Fran was told by the Bama AD not to set foot on campus or something to that effect, right? He basically didn't have a chance to address his players in person from what I've heard.

I didn't mind Gillispie leaving, I thought he was a great coach who could possibly have done great things. But the way he did them pissed me off.

Franochio accepted the A&M job before he told the Alabama AD and then left Alabama to come to Texas so he had the chance. He just chose not to take it.

[Reaganrattler07]

Franochio accepted the A&M job before he told the Alabama AD and then left Alabama to come to Texas so he had the chance. He just chose not to take it.

I really doubt A&M could just go jaunt down and hire Fran without even alerting 'Bama.

If 'Bama gave permission for A&M to speak to Fran, then that's pretty much a sign.

[#1DawgFan]

I am still pissed at Bama for giving permission:mad:

[jtk1519]

I really doubt A&M could just go jaunt down and hire Fran without even alerting 'Bama.

If 'Bama gave permission for A&M to speak to Fran, then that's pretty much a sign.

Fran while at Bama was given a big contract extension, but much like BCG... never signed it. Fran hopped a privet plane to College Station right after RC was fired, interviewed and never came back. He had a chance to come back to address the players, but he chose to do it from College Station. Hell, the man did not even go back to clean out his own desk.

[yankee]

As an Aggie and a real admirer of Billy Gillespie, I am disappointed in the cloak and dagger methods he is using to advance his career. Unquestionably one of the best coaches in the country, he has "agreed in principle" to a new contract with the Aggies but has made himself unavailable to sign the contract due to "other commitments". I wonder if that includes Kentucky's knock on his door. If he wants to leave the Aggies for a more storied program (actually A&M doesn't have a real basketball story), that is certainly understandable. But letting his current school publicly offer him the world and agreeing to accept that offer and then stalling behind the scenes for more time while he works on getting what he really wants make him just like all the other "in it for the money" guys. That is not classy and the way he has preached ethics and accountability to his players makes him appear to be a first-class hypocrite for what he is doing now.

good call yankeeman, good call.

[farmerfan]

good call yankeeman, good call.

good call on what?

I was the first on this board to say that Kentucky would most likely come a calling and I could see him going to Kentucky.
Dont steal my glory you zookeeper :D

[GoOwls]

Ignorant.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wow, never have I been called so ignorant, by so many, for having an......OPINION.

I guess an OPINION that differs from that of "The Nation" certainly must be frought with ignorance. It never ceases to amaze me how touchy you guys are. I think I've made enough thoughtful posts to convince most that I'm not IGNORANT, however, just because I hit a hot button, I'm IGNORANT, all of a sudden.

Well, my OPINION hasn't changed, inspite of my IGNORANCE.

Check back with me in a year or two and let's see who's ignorant and who's not. Check back in a year or two and let's see how your team looks without Acie and BCG. Let's see if you keep any of those recruits for this season, or if the best go with BCG to Kentucky. Let's see how good those guys you have now look without Acie to bail them out. Let's see how the Wichita State coach you're gonna hire does with a bunch of guys who got past the first round of the tournament only because of Acie. Heck, they got in the tournament because of Acie. Let's see if top recruits, who hopefully have good guidance, will go to a "football only" school who's only successful links to successful big-time college basketball is graduating and going to Kentucky, respectfully.

Gosh, fellas, there are over 300 D-1 basketball schools who want to be big-time, so you got some company there. The question is have you been successful enough to attract top players to your school without the coach who gave you the credibility to begin with?

History says no.

"The Nation" says yes.

Get back with me in a couple of years, I'll accept apologies for your rudeness at that time.

Yes, I will continue to give my IGNORANT OPINIONS as long as the KT's allow me to.

[#1DawgFan]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wow, never have I been called so ignorant, by so many, for having an......OPINION.

I guess an OPINION that differs from that of "The Nation" certainly must be frought with ignorance. It never ceases to amaze me how touchy you guys are. I think I've made enough thoughtful posts to convince most that I'm not IGNORANT, however, just because I hit a hot button, I'm IGNORANT, all of a sudden.

Well, my OPINION hasn't changed, inspite of my IGNORANCE.

Check back with me in a year or two and let's see who's ignorant and who's not. Check back in a year or two and let's see how your team looks without Acie and BCG. Let's see if you keep any of those recruits for this season, or if the best go with BCG to Kentucky. Let's see how good those guys you have now look without Acie to bail them out. Let's see how the Wichita State coach you're gonna hire does with a bunch of guys who got past the first round of the tournament only because of Acie. Heck, they got in the tournament because of Acie. Let's see if top recruits, who hopefully have good guidance, will go to a "football only" school who's only successful links to successful big-time college basketball is graduating and going to Kentucky, respectfully.

Gosh, fellas, there are over 300 D-1 basketball schools who want to be big-time, so you got some company there. The question is have you been successful enough to attract top players to your school without the coach who gave you the credibility to begin with?

History says no.

"The Nation" says yes.

Get back with me in a couple of years, I'll accept apologies for your rudeness at that time.

Yes, I will continue to give my IGNORANT OPINIONS as long as the KT's allow me to.

So your complaining that an opinion about your opinion is wrong? Hypocrisy is rampant within you. Your sip opinion doesn't carry any weight and has no real purpose except to cause negative reaction. The apology will have to be from you because the rudeness all started with you.:rolleyes:

[yankee]

good call on what?

I was the first on this board to say that Kentucky would most likely come a calling and I could see him going to Kentucky.
Dont steal my glory you zookeeper :D

"a&m or kentucky? when you hear the two schools, then throw in the word "basketball" with them, which school comes up first in your mind? probably kentucky. exactly why gillespie would go to kentucky. the aura, the prestige, the RECRUITS...he turned tamu around and imagine what he might do with all the talent that comes and will continue to go to uk...it's a step up for gillespie, and it will just add to his already high-profile name. "i'll make him an offer he cannot refuse" should say the kentucky AD..."-yankeeman1709

i said it on 3-22-07 at 7:00 PM...
you said it on 3-24-07 at 11:11 AM...

i win! :D

[farmerfan]

"a&m or kentucky? when you hear the two schools, then throw in the word "basketball" with them, which school comes up first in your mind? probably kentucky. exactly why gillespie would go to kentucky. the aura, the prestige, the RECRUITS...he turned tamu around and imagine what he might do with all the talent that comes and will continue to go to uk...it's a step up for gillespie, and it will just add to his already high-profile name. "i'll make him an offer he cannot refuse" should say the kentucky AD..."-yankeeman1709

i said it on 3-22-07 at 7:00 PM...
you said it on 3-24-07 at 11:11 AM...

i win! :D

Guess again zooKeeper

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=14817

[Firebird]

Guess again zooKeeper

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=14817

Yeah, Farmerfan's been saying this since well before March.

[yankee]

Guess again zooKeeper

http://www.5atexasfootball.com/forum/vB/showthread.php?t=14817

dammit, you win...




for once.
oh and boston sucks.

[farmerfan]

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Wow, never have I been called so ignorant, by so many, for having an......OPINION.

I guess an OPINION that differs from that of "The Nation" certainly must be frought with ignorance. It never ceases to amaze me how touchy you guys are. I think I've made enough thoughtful posts to convince most that I'm not IGNORANT, however, just because I hit a hot button, I'm IGNORANT, all of a sudden.

Well, my OPINION hasn't changed, inspite of my IGNORANCE.

Check back with me in a year or two and let's see who's ignorant and who's not. Check back in a year or two and let's see how your team looks without Acie and BCG. Let's see if you keep any of those recruits for this season, or if the best go with BCG to Kentucky. Let's see how good those guys you have now look without Acie to bail them out. Let's see how the Wichita State coach you're gonna hire does with a bunch of guys who got past the first round of the tournament only because of Acie. Heck, they got in the tournament because of Acie. Let's see if top recruits, who hopefully have good guidance, will go to a "football only" school who's only successful links to successful big-time college basketball is graduating and going to Kentucky, respectfully.

Gosh, fellas, there are over 300 D-1 basketball schools who want to be big-time, so you got some company there. The question is have you been successful enough to attract top players to your school without the coach who gave you the credibility to begin with?

History says no.

"The Nation" says yes.

Get back with me in a couple of years, I'll accept apologies for your rudeness at that time.

Yes, I will continue to give my IGNORANT OPINIONS as long as the KT's allow me to.

Nobody said you were ignorant just that you made an ignorant statement.
Face it your a horn fan that cant stand to see A&M good in anything. What BCG showed was that A&M can have a winning program and what the athletic department and administration have shown is that they are committed to making A&M a winning basketball program. It has to start somewhere and BCG laid the foundation now the building will continue.
Plus you thinking that it was all Acie is ignoring the facts. Joe Jones, Kirk, Sloan and Carter all contributed as well as the Lithuanian. They have a solid nucleus coming back next season and most likely will be able to keep the recruiting class coming in.

[GoOwls]

Nobody said you were ignorant just that you made an ignorant statement.
Face it your a horn fan that cant stand to see A&M good in anything. What BCG showed was that A&M can have a winning program and what the athletic department and administration have shown is that they are committed to making A&M a winning basketball program. It has to start somewhere and BCG laid the foundation now the building will continue.
Plus you thinking that it was all Acie is ignoring the facts. Joe Jones, Kirk, Sloan and Carter all contributed as well as the Lithuanian. They have a solid nucleus coming back next season and most likely will be able to keep the recruiting class coming in.

Farmer, you've read my posts, you know I've always said I cheer for the home state guys unless they are playing the Horns. I've cheered for thr aggies many times, including their tournament run. I'm just being honest. Those guys you list above....there are at least 100 teams with 5 guys just like them...and they will all struggle because there is no leader....and any leader you might get from this years crop will probably go with BCG to Kentucky.

I just feel that I'm a little less close to the deal and maybe a bit more objective to the reality of your situation. I hope I'm wrong, but history says you guys found lightning in a bottle and Kentucky stole the bottle.

Hey Dawgfan....you're good.....nice double-speak for the ones who don't read the whole threads......I mean.....you're really good. :D

BTW, Dawgfan, apology accepted...........:D :D

[DragonBand06]

Farmer, you've read my posts, you know I've always said I cheer for the home state guys unless they are playing the Horns. I've cheered for thr aggies many times, including their tournament run. I'm just being honest. Those guys you list above....there are at least 100 teams with 5 guys just like them...and they will all struggle because there is no leader....and any leader you might get from this years crop will probably go with BCG to Kentucky.

I just feel that I'm a little less close to the deal and maybe a bit more objective to the reality of your situation. I hope I'm wrong, but history says you guys found lightning in a bottle and Kentucky stole the bottle.

Hey Dawgfan....you're good.....nice double-speak for the ones who don't read the whole threads......I mean.....you're really good. :D

BTW, Dawgfan, apology accepted...........:D :D

I disagree. Carter was the top-percentage 3-point shooter in the nation this year. With someone strong on the post, Jones can fight well for position inside. Sloan stepped up this season, filling in well from the bench, and Kirk, while not constantly dominant, has been known to go on wild hot streaks.
I think with Mark Turgeon, a good, solid head coach coming in, we will keep some recruits and do fine in the upcoming season. Not to mention our upgrade in facilities.

[#1DawgFan]

Farmer, you've read my posts, you know I've always said I cheer for the home state guys unless they are playing the Horns. I've cheered for thr aggies many times, including their tournament run. I'm just being honest. Those guys you list above....there are at least 100 teams with 5 guys just like them...and they will all struggle because there is no leader....and any leader you might get from this years crop will probably go with BCG to Kentucky.

I just feel that I'm a little less close to the deal and maybe a bit more objective to the reality of your situation. I hope I'm wrong, but history says you guys found lightning in a bottle and Kentucky stole the bottle.

Hey Dawgfan....you're good.....nice double-speak for the ones who don't read the whole threads......I mean.....you're really good. :D

BTW, Dawgfan, apology accepted...........:D :D


No apology from me and trying to act as though you didn't try to incite the Aggies fans is dishonest at best. Your not objective when it comes to A & M and we could drag up posts all day long to prove that. You speculate and try to pawn it off as some sort of fact. Don't get all bound up when others don't agree with your biased opinion. We can all speculate on whats going to happen but thats all it is. I remember when A & M hired BCG most said "who" and laughed it off as another futile effort by the Aggies to build a nonexistant basketball program into a competitive team. I guess we will see but I feel you will be eating your words and not me eating mine.

[DragonBand06]

No apology from me and trying to act as though you didn't try to incite the Aggies fans is dishonest at best. Your not objective when it comes to A & M and we could drag up posts all day long to prove that. You speculate and try to pawn it off as some sort of fact. Don't get all bound up when others don't agree with your biased opinion. We can all speculate on whats going to happen but thats all it is. I remember when A & M hired BCG most said "who" and laughed it off as another futile effort by the Aggies to build a nonexistant basketball program into a competitive team. I guess we will see but I feel you will be eating your words and not me eating mine.

lol... "That's a fact, in my opinion"

[GoOwls]

No apology from me and trying to act as though you didn't try to incite the Aggies fans is dishonest at best. Your not objective when it comes to A & M and we could drag up posts all day long to prove that. You speculate and try to pawn it off as some sort of fact. Don't get all bound up when others don't agree with your biased opinion. We can all speculate on whats going to happen but thats all it is. I remember when A & M hired BCG most said "who" and laughed it off as another futile effort by the Aggies to build a nonexistant basketball program into a competitive team. I guess we will see but I feel you will be eating your words and not me eating mine.

Actually, I had quite a bit of knowledge about BCG before he went to A&M as he is a good friend of a local radio host and was a frequent guest. As the host thought, I also agreed that BCG would be very successful at A&M. He was one of the best kept secrets in college coaching, at the time. This host always touted his abilities, and after hearing him speak about B-Ball so many times, I became a believer. I was surprised it happened so fast, but not surprised it happened. BCG has more effect on the succes than you guys know, and it will show over the next couple of years.

As I said, there are 100 teams with players like you have, will the Wichita State coach be the next BCG? You guys better hope so, or I demand an apology for you saying I was just stirring stuff up. I'm a bigger fan of the Aggies than you know. As I said, I cheer for them unless they play the Horns.

The fun, in those earlier posts you guys mention, is just messing with the easily fluffed and flustered Aggy fan. Heck, ya'll bloat up like a dead frog when provoked......genuine fun. :D