The Woodlands vs Smithson Valley

[goin2state08]

How do they match up?

[Kilt-Boy]

Man, this thread is early.

Basically TWHS is a whole new team. It can go either way. There's good talent there, but not a lot of experience. I'll give you a better review after the Spring session.

But of course you know that.

[CKE]

SV has there whole offense coming back and they did pretty good against the woodlands best defense to ever come through the school last year.the sv defense has some holes to fill on defense but they do every year and year in and year out they find the right kids for the right jobs. they get to fill these them with a team that has a senior class that has lost 3 games since they have been playing together in 5th grade. the thing that his going to win the game for SV I think is the 270 average line and some good running backs.

[SV61]

SV has there whole offense coming back and they did pretty good against the woodlands best defense to ever come through the school last year.the sv defense has some holes to fill on defense but they do every year and year in and year out they find the right kids for the right jobs. they get to fill these them with a team that has a senior class that has lost 3 games since they have been playing together in 5th grade. the thing that his going to win the game for SV I think is the 270 average line and some good running backs.

I hope that you are right about the offense, but if the defense can't stop anybody, watch out.

Ask Jim Streety.

Of course, it does help, to have an offense that can grind it out, OR score in a hurry. Coach Hill seems to have the offensive part worked out.

C'mon Defense!

[J-Rock Mom]

I have to go with SV they are one of the best teams in SA and hopefully the State this year.

[Crank_It]

Hey CKE, try and find out when spring drills start for SV for me. its been so long since i played that i cant remember. Oh and if you check any of em out, lemme know how it goes. 'Preciate it!

[HUM398]

Thread is early.

Its off-season..

[svhorns]

SV has there whole offense coming back and they did pretty good against the woodlands best defense to ever come through the school last year.the sv defense has some holes to fill on defense but they do every year and year in and year out they find the right kids for the right jobs. they get to fill these them with a team that has a senior class that has lost 3 games since they have been playing together in 5th grade. the thing that his going to win the game for SV I think is the 270 average line and some good running backs.

can't forget about the 13 starters The Woodlands play on defense and half of them run a 4.3-4.4... we're done

[Kilt-Boy]

can't forget about the 13 starters The Woodlands play on defense and half of them run a 4.3-4.4... we're done

For the record................... I was not the poster to claim this :D

[twcpfan1]

For the record................... I was not the poster to claim this :D

Well, whoever made that claim must have been talking about last year's team right?

[Kilt-Boy]

Well, whoever made that claim must have been talking about last year's team right?

Yes, and my favorite part were the 13 returning starters on defense.

[CKE]

For the record................... I was not the poster to claim this :D

noted

[twcpfan1]

Yes, and my favorite part were the 13 returning starters on defense.

Holy crap. I just remembered that. Pretty funny. Unless he was talking about a Rugby team.

[Redhoss]

Yes, and my favorite part were the 13 returning starters on defense.

Ok, so give us the lowdown.

What do they return from last year?

[Kilt-Boy]

Ok, so give us the lowdown.

What do they return from last year?

Starters -

Offense:
RB - Milo
OL - Thompson

Defense:
DL - Watson

Saw more than spot action:

Offense:
TE - Wolfe

Defense:
Safety - Maires, Osbourne

[Redhoss]

Wow, got some rebuilding to do there.

Thanks for the info.

[svfootball45]

Hey CKE, try and find out when spring drills start for SV for me. its been so long since i played that i cant remember. Oh and if you check any of em out, lemme know how it goes. 'Preciate it!

They start in about two weeks we have already started working on getting back into the football mode

[t-long20]

the title of this thread isnt even debatable ;)

[svfootball45]

Sv is gonna win without a doubt we owned the woodlans last year and were going to this year so woodlands people begin the hatefull posts

[CKE]

Sv is gonna win without a doubt we owned the woodlans last year and were going to this year so woodlands people begin the hatefull posts

that is what you call asking for it

[svhorns]

that is what you call asking for it

yup

[twcpfan1]

that is what you call asking for it

Yep. SVFootball45 lives to provoke.

[svfootball45]

that is what you call asking for it


Yep. SVFootball45 lives to provoke.
I am asking for it and i am provoking yall woodlands people so BRING IT!!

[Kilt-Boy]

I am asking for it and i am provoking yall woodlands people so BRING IT!!

Nothing to see here.......Move along!!!!!

[svfootball45]

Nothing to see here.......Move along!!!!!

oh so thats how your gonna hide your fear of SV

[rodjohns]

Nothing to see here.......Move along!!!!!

Congrats Kilt Boy your Boys beat us last night at Klein 2-1 in OT our stud going to SMU on full ride went down in first half. Great game but man some of your teenage fans (he claims he was 18) almost got into it with me over dropping F bombs in the rest room with our lil guys. I am old but I can still lay down some A$%^ whippin....:) Good luck the rest of the way!

[HOOKEM]

SV will be a top ten team this year. The woodlands has no chance to win this game. To many skilled players back for a good SV team last year.
.......and if you think I am a SV homer look at my sig.

[CKE]

SV will be a top ten team this year. The woodlands has no chance to win this game. To many skilled players back for a good SV team last year.
.......and if you think I am a SV homer look at my sig.

thanks for the support hookem......but to all you woodlands fans i can assure you sv is not taking yall lightly they are going to prepare for the woodlands just like they would slc, lufkin, katy ect.

[Kilt-Boy]

oh so thats how your gonna hide your fear of SV

No fear here. I'm just not gonna brag on a dog that I've never seen fight. The season I worry about starts around week 5, if we get to that point with at least a couple of wins I'll be happy.

The only exception I have to this is where TWCPHS is concerned, I've seen our boys play their boys too many times not to have an opinion. :D

[twcpfan1]

No fear here. I'm just not gonna brag on a dog that I've never seen fight. The season I worry about starts around week 5, if we get to that point with at least a couple of wins I'll be happy.

The only exception I have to this is where TWCPHS is concerned, I've seen our boys play their boys too many times not to have an opinion. :D

What I loved about last season was that TWCP was under absolutely no pressure to win a game let alone go to the playoffs and come within 7 of going to OT with Klein Forest.

This year, expectations are infinitely higher. Can't help thinking that we got somewhat lucky against Conroe after nearly blowing a 21-6 lead. They'll be better this year if they can ever get their act together. And of course everybody is expecting that we will be able to hang with TWHS this year.

I guess my particular worry comes from the pressure our boys will put on themselves to live up to those expectations.

[forest99]

What I loved about last season was that TWCP was under absolutely no pressure to win a game let alone go to the playoffs and come within 7 of going to OT with Klein Forest.

Can't help thinking that we got somewhat lucky against Conroe after nearly blowing a 21-6 lead. They'll be better this year if they can ever get their act together. And of course everybody is expecting that we will be able to hang with TWHS this year.

ok...first of all....klein forest dominated yall and slacked off in the second half.....second off....yall weren't lucky against conroe, you just beat the as*es....(you would've won anyways in ot eventually because conroe hasn't made a fg in over 2 years!)....and i know yall win hang with "teh" woodlands this season because yall basically return everybody and theyre depth is beggining to become greatly affected! (they have to use an ex-conroe guy at rb and possibly even qb, huh....i wouldnt be proud of that!!)

[Kilt-Boy]

Congrats Kilt Boy your Boys beat us last night at Klein 2-1 in OT our stud going to SMU on full ride went down in first half. Great game but man some of your teenage fans (he claims he was 18) almost got into it with me over dropping F bombs in the rest room with our lil guys. I am old but I can still lay down some A$%^ whippin....:) Good luck the rest of the way!

Damn soccer hooligans!!!! But seriously, thanks for the congrats.

I offer my apologies (for what that's worth), and can at least feel good that I know my teenager wasn't involved. It's unfortunate but this sort of thing seems to be getting more common, the F-bomb is becoming just another adjective. I myself have experienced the same thing in other areas, I have a pre-teen daughter and I would prefer not have her over-exposed to vulgar language. When you make a comment/request to these kids to ease up on the language they act as though you're the one out of order.

[CKE]

What I loved about last season was that TWCP was under absolutely no pressure to win a game let alone go to the playoffs and come within 7 of going to OT with Klein Forest.

This year, expectations are infinitely higher. Can't help thinking that we got somewhat lucky against Conroe after nearly blowing a 21-6 lead. They'll be better this year if they can ever get their act together. And of course everybody is expecting that we will be able to hang with TWHS this year.

I guess my particular worry comes from the pressure our boys will put on themselves to live up to those expectations.

what are you talking about all I heard last year as how great this upcoming woodlands team is mainly because of the defense and how great milo would dominate

[Kilt-Boy]

CKE, this is internal CISD talk. Has nothing to do with SV.

[CKE]

CKE, this is internal CISD talk. Has nothing to do with SV.

no hostility just facts and kind of defending your kids cause the fact is they did have pressure on them. the first game they played all year was against a power house team on national television.....I would say thats pressure. By CISD do you mean comal isd casue then I can butt in whenever I want ;)

[Kilt-Boy]

no hostility just facts and kind of defending your kids cause the fact is they did have pressure on them. the first game they played all year was against a power house team on national television.....I would say thats pressure. By CISD do you mean comal isd casue then I can butt in whenever I want ;)

CKE,

CavDad was responding to a statement I had made in an earlier post.

Progression of statements.......

SVfb45 - oh so thats how your gonna hide your fear of SV

me - No fear here. I'm just not gonna brag on a dog that I've never seen fight. The season I worry about starts around week 5, if we get to that point with at least a couple of wins I'll be happy.

The only exception I have to this is where TWCPHS is concerned, I've seen our boys play their boys too many times not to have an opinion.

CavDad - What I loved about last season was that TWCP was under absolutely no pressure to win a game let alone go to the playoffs and come within 7 of going to OT with Klein Forest.


This thread has strayed a bit from the original topic at times. :p

[CKE]

CKE,

CavDad was responding to a statement I had made in an earlier post.

Progression of statements.......

SVfb45 - oh so thats how your gonna hide your fear of SV

me - No fear here. I'm just not gonna brag on a dog that I've never seen fight. The season I worry about starts around week 5, if we get to that point with at least a couple of wins I'll be happy.

The only exception I have to this is where TWCPHS is concerned, I've seen our boys play their boys too many times not to have an opinion.

CavDad - What I loved about last season was that TWCP was under absolutely no pressure to win a game let alone go to the playoffs and come within 7 of going to OT with Klein Forest.


This thread has strayed a bit from the original topic at times. :p
as it always does in a sv woodlands thread

[svfootball45]

well since no one is really backing the woodlands i guess its safe to say that sv is the favorite

[twcpfan1]

what are you talking about all I heard last year as how great this upcoming woodlands team is mainly because of the defense and how great milo would dominate


Ummm. Wrong Woodlands school bud. I wasn't talking about the one Milo and that great defense played for. I was talking about that other Woodlands school full of 'rejects' that played their first season ever in varsity last year.

But since the general consensus is to get back on topic, let me start a sub-topic mainly directed towards svfootball45.

I'm picking The Woodlands to beat SV in a close one.

If the game happened to be between SV and The Woodlands College Park, SV would have absolutely no hope. Are you happy now ? :D

[CKE]

Ummm. Wrong Woodlands school bud. I wasn't talking about the one Milo and that great defense played for. I was talking about that other Woodlands school full of 'rejects' that played their first season ever in varsity last year.

kilt pointed that out "bud"

[twcpfan1]

kilt pointed that out "bud"

It's all good. Good Luck in 2007. BTW, I edited the original post to accomodate SVFootball45's earlier request.

[Kilt-Boy]

well since no one is really backing the woodlands i guess its safe to say that sv is the favorite

I suppose it's a good thing they don't just give the "W" to the favorite then.

Also, you use the term "backing" incorrectly. I am a huge "backer" of TWHS and I think they can pull out the win. But until I have a chance to see them play together, I'm not going to make any inflamitory predictions for next season.

**Except that we'll beat TWHCP** :D

[twcpfan1]

I suppose it's a good thing they don't just give the "W" to the favorite then.

Also, you use the term "backing" incorrectly. I am a huge "backer" of TWHS and I think they can pull out the win. But until I have a chance to see them play together, I'm not going to make any inflamitory predictions for next season.

**Except that we'll beat TWHCP** :D


:D :D You know...In all seriousness, the deafening sound of silence from the TWHS people has me thinking that they believe that this year's team might in fact be better than last year's. For one thing, Milo will be healthy. And the alleged decrease in talent and experience may be overcome by the fact that this group may gel together better as a team.

[MidLineOption73]

I have a question for Mr. Kilt Boy. Where does Hector Perez fit in on this team? If he fits in at all. I have watched him since he was at Knox and he seemed to be a real player. What are your thoughts?

As for TWHS beating CP next year, um...... No, the men and lady soccer Cavaliers and the lady baskeball teams have already proven the mighty TWHS as beatable and I feel that the football team has noticed and will come through on the gridiron.

[Kilt-Boy]

I have a question for Mr. Kilt Boy. Where does Hector Perez fit in on this team? If he fits in at all. I have watched him since he was at Knox and he seemed to be a real player. What are your thoughts?

As for TWHS beating CP next year, um...... No, the men and lady soccer Cavaliers and the lady baskeball teams have already proven the mighty TWHS as beatable and I feel that the football team has noticed and will come through on the gridiron.

Hector Perez? No clue, have not heard mention of him at any positions.

As for the TWHS beating CP. If you've read any of my post directly addressing this, I've always said it's a toss-up. CavDad should back me on this. If I include :D ;) or :rolleyes: in the post it's just good old fashioned rivalry building. But, why wouldn't I lean to us winning though? If you want to equate wins by soccer and basketball to football, well........................ I don't see the correlation.

[twcpfan1]

Hector Perez? No clue, have not heard mention of him at any positions.

As for the TWHS beating CP. If you've read any of my post directly addressing this, I've always said it's a toss-up. CavDad should back me on this. If I include :D ;) or :rolleyes: in the post it's just good old fashioned rivalry building. But, why wouldn't I lean to us winning though? If you want to equate wins by soccer and basketball to football, well........................ I don't see the correlation.

I concur. Kilt Boy has called toss-up pretty much everytime he's been asked. As has Midline. He predicted a close one too. I did call 28-10 once but that was just tongue in cheek to provoke a reaction cause the TWHS fans have been awful quiet. But I'm with you guys. It will be a one score game.

[#1 Highlander Dad]

Cavalier Dad..

I think you need to give up on the "Woodlands Rejects" thing...yes Woodlands fans started chanting it during the game and its a common name for CP in Highlander Nation..

But I must add..NOT ONE STARTER FOR CP WOULD EVEN TOUCH THE FIELD LAST YEAR AS A HIGHLANDER..

For example..Cham King??

The kid looks like a 7th grader. You think he would see any field in front of Grote, Wyatt, or Mooney??


Don't think so..


Have there been any players from CP signing with BIGTIME schools either??

I highly doubt it..

[CKE]

Cavalier Dad..

I think you need to give up on the "Woodlands Rejects" thing...yes Woodlands fans started chanting it during the game and its a common name for CP in Highlander Nation..

But I must add..NOT ONE STARTER FOR CP WOULD EVEN TOUCH THE FIELD LAST YEAR AS A HIGHLANDER..

For example..Cham King??

The kid looks like a 7th grader. You think he would see any field in front of Grote, Wyatt, or Mooney??


Don't think so..


Have there been any players from CP signing with BIGTIME schools either??

I highly doubt it..

:rolleyes: and your a father....please

[twcpfan1]

Cavalier Dad..

I think you need to give up on the "Woodlands Rejects" thing...yes Woodlands fans started chanting it during the game and its a common name for CP in Highlander Nation..

But I must add..NOT ONE STARTER FOR CP WOULD EVEN TOUCH THE FIELD LAST YEAR AS A HIGHLANDER..

For example..Cham King??

The kid looks like a 7th grader. You think he would see any field in front of Grote, Wyatt, or Mooney??


Don't think so..


Have there been any players from CP signing with BIGTIME schools either??

I highly doubt it..

WHOA !! Easy there pops. That's why it was in quotation marks with a smiley face. I thought it was funny and nothing more. TWHS kids weren't the only ones who were chanting it. But did I take exception to it? Absolutely not. I found it comical and that's as far as it goes. Getting angry about it would only mean that it's true. Believe me. CP kids love their school and absolutely do not feel second rate compared to TWHS.

Nobody at CP takes exception to that kind of trash talking either. I mean, it's a rivalry. You just expect that kind of thing from kids. And I don't recall ever saying that Cham would have replaced Wyatt, Grote or Mooney last year. You really have me baffled as to why you would even single him out. And D1 commits? When did anybody even bring that subject up? Most of our kids were underclassmen.

However since you brought it up, did you see the way you guys finished the season against Westfield and how our kids (including King) finished the season against Klein Forest? It's reasonable to say that CP got better and to tell you the truth, I would love to replay the game against TWHS with the same personnell. For you to suggest that none of our starters would make that great Highlander team is ridiculous at best. I could tell you which of our kids would easily make that team, but that would be disrespecting your players and I'm not about to do that.

A lot of posters on here know that I always cheer for TWHS to do well. Even going as far as defending their players against negative comments about them on this board. Cham King may be small in stature but you know nothing about sports if you even imply that he is inadequate as an all around athlete. If you guys feel that the likes of him are not good enough to make your team, then I'm 100% ok with that. Because we'll take him in a heartbeat.

[Kilt-Boy]

Cavalier Dad..

But I must add..NOT ONE STARTER FOR CP WOULD EVEN TOUCH THE FIELD LAST YEAR AS A HIGHLANDER..

Whoah!!!!! Lighten up Francis....

I can guarantee that Gilmore (DL/LB?) and Balzer(OL) would have started at TWHS last year.

[rodjohns]

Whoah!!!!! Lighten up Francis....

I can guarantee that Gilmore (DL/LB?) and Balzer(OL) would have started at TWHS last year.

Obviously the Woodlands teens that were dropping F bombs in the Klein restrooms in front of lil kids and then getting pissed because I asked them to stop are probably #1 Highlanders Dads kids.

I am cool when you talk about programs or Coaches or Rowdy Fans but when you start dogging out Kids on those programs you crossed the line. Yes indeed lighten up you wanker...Kilt Boy get #1 Highlander Dad a leash!

[#1 Highlander Dad]

I will stick with my last post.

Not one CP player would see the field infront of any starters on The Woodlands. And Cav Dad...I do not think you can even compare the talent between Klein Forest and Westfield..

Well, you are right about one thing...CP's play against Klein Forest probably looked great rebounding off a loss to Oak Ridge...

We are talking about the talent of teams here..

Smithson Valley, Katy, North Shore

vs.

Tomball, Katy Morton Ranch, and Huntsville

:)

[twcpfan1]

I will stick with my last post.

Not one CP player would see the field infront of any starters on The Woodlands. And Cav Dad...I do not think you can even compare the talent between Klein Forest and Westfield..

Well, you are right about one thing...CP's play against Klein Forest probably looked great rebounding off a loss to Oak Ridge...

We are talking about the talent of teams here..

Smithson Valley, Katy, North Shore

vs.

Tomball, Katy Morton Ranch, and Huntsville

:)


Last year's result WF 7 KF 6. Was not at the game but I heard KF got smoked by a phantom call and had what would have been the winning TD disallowed. The ORHS game was not going to alter CP's playoff seeding. A lot of the CP starters only played in small spurts.

No question TWHS had a brutal schedule. That is why they went 0-3 against the schools you mentioned.

[mad_fan]

I for one love reading the commentary on these early polls...
Carry on...

[Kilt-Boy]

I will stick with my last post.

Not one CP player would see the field infront of any starters on The Woodlands.

Exactly how many years away from the older "split" kids have you been watching? Are you familiar with any of them individually or are you judging them based on when 11 men were on the field?

I watched these kids play together through SCFL and in 9th & CP got plenty of the talent pool. Especially the 2 I mentioned in my previous post. Gilmore would have definitely started, the boy is a freak of nature. Balzer would have started at center, I have no doubts.

[MidLineOption73]

Exactly how many years away from the older "split" kids have you been watching? Are you familiar with any of them individually or are you judging them based on when 11 men were on the field?

I watched these kids play together through SCFL and in 9th & CP got plenty of the talent pool. Especially the 2 I mentioned in my previous post. Gilmore would have definitely started, the boy is a freak of nature. Balzer would have started at center, I have no doubts.



I would like to add one name to those two. He moved away before the begining of the season. That would be Krisna Wardhana, he would had played DT. In my opinion he would have been quicker and stronger than Gilmore, and I am one of Roberts biggest fans and have been from his Jr. High days. As for Balzer, he would have been at least a 2 year started on the O-Line, and that is coming from the Highlander Coacahes.

[W Dawg]

Congrats Kilt Boy your Boys beat us last night at Klein 2-1 in OT our stud going to SMU on full ride went down in first half. Great game but man some of your teenage fans (he claims he was 18) almost got into it with me over dropping F bombs in the rest room with our lil guys. I am old but I can still lay down some A$%^ whippin....:) Good luck the rest of the way!

I was at that game also and luckily I didn't experience your F-bomb situation. I had my 10-year-old with me and would have said something as well.

Great game, it was like two different games. Klein dominated the first half but couldn't find the net and once the stud went down seemed to lose momentum. TWHS looked fresher as the game wore on.

[GOAT]

I hope that you are right about the offense, but if the defense can't stop anybody, watch out.

Ask Jim Streety.

Of course, it does help, to have an offense that can grind it out, OR score in a hurry. Coach Hill seems to have the offensive part worked out.

C'mon Defense!

Not even

Coach mooch seems to have the defensive part worked out

ask coaches of :Woodlands, Spring, Mac, Rosevelt, Judson, CHURCHILL, LEE, and wagner.

thanks

D

[Crank_It]

Not even

Coach mooch seems to have the defensive part worked out

ask coaches of :Woodlands, Spring, Mac, Rosevelt, Judson, CHURCHILL, LEE, and wagner.

thanks

D

schemes as well as the personell to do so go hand-in-hand my friend

[HUM398]

Cavalier Dad..

I think you need to give up on the "Woodlands Rejects" thing...yes Woodlands fans started chanting it during the game and its a common name for CP in Highlander Nation..

But I must add..NOT ONE STARTER FOR CP WOULD EVEN TOUCH THE FIELD LAST YEAR AS A HIGHLANDER..

For example..Cham King??

The kid looks like a 7th grader. You think he would see any field in front of Grote, Wyatt, or Mooney??


Don't think so..


Have there been any players from CP signing with BIGTIME schools either??

I highly doubt it..


Well... Not one of your starters would start for Lufkin... :D

[Sicemhorns09]

I have a question for Mr. Kilt Boy. Where does Hector Perez fit in on this team? If he fits in at all. I have watched him since he was at Knox and he seemed to be a real player. What are your thoughts?

As for TWHS beating CP next year, um...... No, the men and lady soccer Cavaliers and the lady baskeball teams have already proven the mighty TWHS as beatable and I feel that the football team has noticed and will come through on the gridiron.

well...mens soccer split the series, and The Woodlands made it to the regional finals...basketball has never been a big sport for The Woodlands. As for the remaining sports, The Woodlands has just been flat out dominate...I wouldn't say that CP beating The Woodlands in Lady's Basketball translates to a win on the gridiron.

[svfootball45]

Not even

Coach mooch seems to have the defensive part worked out

ask coaches of :Woodlands, Spring, Mac, Rosevelt, Judson, CHURCHILL, LEE, and wagner.

thanks

D

oh ya our defense is completly ready

[CFlb38 08]

sv!

[HUM398]

I will stick with my last post.

Not one CP player would see the field infront of any starters on The Woodlands. And Cav Dad...I do not think you can even compare the talent between Klein Forest and Westfield..

Well, you are right about one thing...CP's play against Klein Forest probably looked great rebounding off a loss to Oak Ridge...

We are talking about the talent of teams here..

Smithson Valley, Katy, North Shore

vs.

Tomball, Katy Morton Ranch, and Huntsville

:)

I wouldn't compare SV and Katy to NS talent..HUGE DIFFERENCE

North Shore has far better athletes then teh woods, Katy, or SV. Dont get me wrong, Katy and SV have talent...Just not on the same level as schools like Ike, WF, and NS... Or Klein forest for that matter.

[twcpfan1]

I wouldn't compare SV and Katy to NS talent..HUGE DIFFERENCE

North Shore has far better athletes then teh woods, Katy, or SV. Dont get me wrong, Katy and SV have talent...Just not on the same level as schools like Ike, WF, and NS... Or Klein forest for that matter.


I think both Katy and SV would have beaten Westfield, NS and KF last year. While they do have the athletes, they do not have the discipline that is necessary to maximize that potential.

[MidLineOption73]

well...mens soccer split the series, and The Woodlands made it to the regional finals...basketball has never been a big sport for The Woodlands. As for the remaining sports, The Woodlands has just been flat out dominate...I wouldn't say that CP beating The Woodlands in Lady's Basketball translates to a win on the gridiron.


Maybe not but I can sort of dream a little before the season, cant I? :D

[HUM398]

I think both Katy and SV would have beaten Westfield, NS and KF last year. While they do have the athletes, they do not have the discipline that is necessary to maximize that potential.

I do not think neither katy nor SV could of beaten WF in Playoff mode.

The notion that they are not disciplined is false. They can out Athlete you, but they don't... They just out play you. Ever since Meekins has step foot on that campus the team has been extremely disciplined... Thats how they were able to beat NS two years in a row. Takes more then Talent to beat a Team like NS...No matter what kind of year they are having.

Now yes... They are WAY to aggressive after the whistle, but i think that has a lot to do with intimidation methods.

Ike is an example of an Undisciplined talent laden team that would lose to both Katy and SV...

[Redhoss]

I think both Katy and SV would have beaten Westfield, NS and KF last year. While they do have the athletes, they do not have the discipline that is necessary to maximize that potential.

I would agree that Katy would have beaten them.

I'm not sure about SV on all 3 but it's possible.

I noticed HUM was saying Westfield is disciplined and it's not true. I saw them play two times last year and in one game, they had about 10 penalties it seemed.

TWHS gave Westfield a fairly close game for more than a half. Take back a breakout run in the first part of the game by WF and it's even closer.

[twcpfan1]

I would agree that Katy would have beaten them.

I'm not sure about SV on all 3 but it's possible.

I noticed HUM was saying Westfield is disciplined and it's not true. I saw them play two times last year and in one game, they had about 10 penalties it seemed.

TWHS gave Westfield a fairly close game for more than a half. Take back a breakout run in the first part of the game by WF and it's even closer.

I was at the game and I agree with you. The officiating was horrible. Time and time again, TWHS were called for penalties that were real momentum breakers in the 2nd half.

[DiamondJ2]

SV with no problem

[HUM398]

I would agree that Katy would have beaten them.

I'm not sure about SV on all 3 but it's possible.

I noticed HUM was saying Westfield is disciplined and it's not true. I saw them play two times last year and in one game, they had about 10 penalties it seemed.

TWHS gave Westfield a fairly close game for more than a half. Take back a breakout run in the first part of the game by WF and it's even closer.

They have their games where they are extremely penalty prone... Then their are games where they virtually go penalty free. When you have that many athletes on the field...Penalties are going to get thrown...Especially when it comes to late hits. They are an extremely aggressive defense.

And TWHS had no shot at beating WF...Not a chance. I have the game on tape.. The woodlands just didn't have the offense or the Fundamentally sound defense to stop a talent laden running game. Teams with good defenses usually can hold WF for about a half...But the game just starts to wear on the defensive starters.

Westfield is extremely well coached and at the skill positions are virtually fundamentally flawless. they are able to out play their opponent instead of just out athlete them.

I respect your opinion... But i see more to Westfield then the Penalties that get thrown.

[HUM398]

I was at the game and I agree with you. The officiating was horrible. Time and time again, TWHS were called for penalties that were real momentum breakers in the 2nd half.

I know how it is with penalties... trust me (Humble vs. PAM) But bottom line is...if your not good enough to overcome it... Then you don't deserve to continue.

I didn't feel Humble should of advanced. Because despite what i thought were bogus calls, they just couldn't get it done. i thought they were the best team in the state that didn't make the playoffs, but after a while to cool down..thats all they were... And the thing is, that we made key mistakes in the 1st quarter that made it impossible for us to comeback and win with the officiating that we had.

TWHS got outplayed, and didn't deserve to advance.

[twcpfan1]

I know how it is with penalties... trust me (Humble vs. PAM) But bottom line is...if your not good enough to overcome it... Then you don't deserve to continue.

I didn't feel Humble should of advanced. Because despite what i thought were bogus calls, they just couldn't get it done. i thought they were the best team in the state that didn't make the playoffs, but after a while to cool down..thats all they were... And the thing is, that we made key mistakes in the 1st quarter that made it impossible for us to comeback and win with the officiating that we had.

TWHS got outplayed, and didn't deserve to advance.

No question Westfield deserved the victory. But I would not go as far as to say that they would have beaten Katy had they played. The Woodlands offense had problems all year (except against us). So the loss to Westfield was expected.

[HUM398]

No question Westfield deserved the victory. But I would not go as far as to say that they would have beaten Katy had they played. The Woodlands offense had problems all year (except against us). So the loss to Westfield was expected.

Here is the thing with Katy. They were young... WF was pretty young as well, BUT Katy didnt put the ball up in the air as much as katy normally does. Running against WF...Regardless of who you are is a tough task to take on.

They would of beat SV without a doubt, katy would of been a close game...But i still give it to WF ONLY because of Katy's lack of experiance at the QB position.

[Redhoss]

HUM, you are right about Katy being young and it showed early on.
Actually, The Woods outplayed Katy I believe in the second game. If they had not made mistakes, Woods wins. Katy barely got out of that game with a win. The Woods had a good defense but no offense.

Fast forward, the young ones greatly improved. I'm talking 4:1 and their passing attack came around.
This mature version would easily have handled The Woods later and had too much offense to have WF roll over them. WF ran the ball way too much to beat this matured squad. If you could throw on WF last year, you win.

[HUM398]

HUM, you are right about Katy being young and it showed early on.
Actually, The Woods outplayed Katy I believe in the second game. If they had not made mistakes, Woods wins. Katy barely got out of that game with a win. The Woods had a good defense but no offense.

Fast forward, the young ones greatly improved. I'm talking 4:1 and their passing attack came around.
This mature version would easily have handled The Woods later and had too much offense to have WF roll over them. WF ran the ball way too much to beat this matured squad. If you could throw on WF last year, you win.

You are right...I don't think the 06-07 WF team could handle a Well schemed Katy. BUT, remember its easier to say your going to throw against what was a very mature Secondary and actually do it.

But i agree with you.. If Katy's Pass would of developed more and they had a little more experience...Then i take Katy 45-21 over WF..

But WF has incredible athletes and coaching.. Comparable if not greater then NS.

[Redhoss]

I wish I had seen Shore play. I'm going to try to do so this year.

So many games, so little time. :D

[MidLineOption73]

I wish I had seen Shore play. I'm going to try to do so this year.

So many games, so little time. :D


I think that they should put more games on tv on the weekends during the season. I am sure that FOX could have two games a week, One in the Dallas Area, One in the Houston area one weekend, and then one from SA/Valley, and one fromout west the next weekend. That would allow more people to see more of the powerhouses around the state. Or ... They could tape delay a couple of games for during the week. :cool:

[Redhoss]

Great idea, something like feature games of the week?

This way I could record some and go out and watch others. :)

[TheDuke]

This post is getting a little crazy.


Does ANYONE know who The Woodlands players are this year?

QB?

Secondary?

LB's?

Line?

Any FASTER Running Backs?

WR?

[Redhoss]

This post is getting a little crazy.





I knew someone was gonna make some comment about my picture. :rolleyes:

[Kilt-Boy]

This post is getting a little crazy.
Does ANYONE know who The Woodlands players are this year?
QB?
Secondary?
LB's?
Line?
Any FASTER Running Backs?
WR?

I can help you on the "O"side.

QB - :confused: same old toss-up. Eckenrode(sr) (my favorite), makes good decisions but a tad thin. Poarch(sr), bigger but forces thing sometimes. Renton(jr), most athletic but longest shot. I feel bad for who-ever gets the #1 slot, with them all being so close the coach will have a hair trigger.

RB - Milo(sr) is still there, they seem to have him closer to the ball at the snap so hopefully he will be able to hit the holes faster. The line should be better this year so the holes should be bigger. The FB, Demney(sr), is a converted RB. He isn't the prototypical build, he's smaller but very strong. He's as fast or faster than Milo and can catch most anything thrown his way.

WR - Tweedy(jr), Eastman(jr), Schneider(sr). Pretty good speed all-around. Lets see if the QB can get the balls to them. I'd be willing to bet Gullo(sr) see the field also.

TE - Wolf(jr)/Barker(sr) - Wolf was on V last year don't know a lot about ability of either. I think I can count on my fingers the # of passes thrown to the TE last year. :mad:

OL - Thompson(sr), Norton(jr), Faw(sr), Neal(sr) and maybe Ray(sr)? Bigger and stronger than last year. We'll have to see what they can do as a unit. Still a chance for someone to step up and take a spot.

Positions I know on "D":

Safeties - Osborne(sr) & Maires(jr). Osborne is the big hitter, runs 4.4 and WILL knock somebody out this year. I worry about that because it could be him as easy as someone else :eek: Maires is a gifted athlete not sure of speed, but he's smart enough to make big plays.

DB's - Not sure

LB's - Probably.....Reno(sr) at M, past that not sure

DE's - Watson(sr) & Flook(jr) maybe.

DT's - Not sure.

[svrangerfan]

I will be at this game. I just hope the Offensive lineman from the Woodlands who took the cheapshot on the final offensive play has graduated. #60 I think. The Highlanders showed me nothing last year. I hope the game will be more entertaining this year. They were bigger and looked faster and I thought they were going to kill us before the game started. But they had nothing.

[Sicemhorns09]

I will be at this game. I just hope the Offensive lineman from the Woodlands who took the cheapshot on the final offensive play has graduated. #60 I think. The Highlanders showed me nothing last year. I hope the game will be more entertaining this year. They were bigger and looked faster and I thought they were going to kill us before the game started. But they had nothing.

Its all about coaching...since Willig left after my Junior year, it just hasnt been the same

[Kilt-Boy]

I just hope the Offensive lineman from the Woodlands who took the cheapshot on the final offensive play has graduated. #60 I think.

Costello graduates this year, will not be there.

[BC2001Eagles]

I like the Woodlands chances. They put out alot of talent year in and out....just getting it to come together like 2003 is the issue......

Like Sicemhorns09 said after Wellig left it's been a bit of a drop off. Another factor, you now have two schools with College Park..before that it was one big school that was around 4900 in enrollement and before the district change with Lufkin coming in...was handing Westfield and other schools in the area their lunch every friday night.

The point is I think they can hang and even beat SV as they are usually a very physical team on D themselves and overall play a bruising style. Bt if SV get up early 14-, 17-3 type of thing ..then it'll be SV all the way.

[CKE]

I like the Woodlands chances. They put out alot of talent year in and out....just getting it to come together like 2003 is the issue......

Like Sicemhorns09 said after Wellig left it's been a bit of a drop off. Another factor, you now have two schools with College Park..before that it was one big school that was around 4900 in enrollement and before the district change with Lufkin coming in...was handing Westfield and other schools in the area their lunch every friday night.

The point is I think they can hang and even beat SV as they are usually a very physical team on D themselves and overall play a bruising style. Bt if SV get up early 14-, 17-3 type of thing ..then it'll be SV all the way.

Its going to be a great game i cant wait I think the woodlands is going to give us one hell of a game

[caveman]

This is going to be a great match up. Both teams have something to prove, IMO, from last year.
The eyes of Texas will be focussed in you all's directions that week.
I'm not quite ready to pick up a poll option yet. ;)

[twcpfan1]

I don't think it's televised is it? College Park's Week 0 game is the night before. There goes my excuse for not taking the road trip for the SV-TWHS game. Guess I'll have to go :D.

[rangermum]

I can't wait for the season......I'm so torn......I want FOOTBALL to start so bad, but I don't want it to be over!!! It's going to be a great season....and there's nothin better than a few good road trips!!!! Especially with this group!!!!!! Yee haw!!!:D

[5afootballfan]

most def sv is going to win

[twcpfan1]

Does anybody know where in Round Rock the Stadium is? Looks like I might be able to go after all.

Is it this one?

http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=15

[TexasRed6x]

SV wiill win this game by at leat 14 points. Sv is to well coached to lose this one.

[Kilt-Boy]

Does anybody know where in Round Rock the Stadium is? Looks like I might be able to go after all.

Is it this one?

http://www.texasbob.com/stadium/stadium.php?id=15

That's the one I'm going to. The google map link doesn't work. I had to put the address (10211 West Parmer Lane, Round Rock, Texas 78717) info directly into google maps to get it to work and even then it's hard to find because the satellite image shows it still under construction. I hopped over to Yahoo Maps and entered the info, it went to the center of the Zip code, but you can find the stadium just to the left off of FM 734

This might work, might not:

http://maps.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTExNmIycG51BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLWJ1 dHRvbgRzbGsDbGluaw--#mvt=h&q1=10211%20West%20Parmer%20Lane,%20Round%20Rock,%2 0Texas%2078717&trf=0&lon=-97.775273&lat=30.489251&mag=4

[twcpfan1]

That's the one I'm going to. The google map link doesn't work. I had to put the address (10211 West Parmer Lane, Round Rock, Texas 78717) info directly into google maps to get it to work and even then it's hard to find because the satellite image shows it still under construction. I hopped over to Yahoo Maps and entered the info, it went to the center of the Zip code, but you can find the stadium just to the left off of FM 734

This might work, might not:

http://maps.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTExNmIycG51BF9TAzI3MTYxNDkEc2VjA2ZwLWJ1 dHRvbgRzbGsDbGluaw--#mvt=h&q1=10211%20West%20Parmer%20Lane,%20Round%20Rock,%2 0Texas%2078717&trf=0&lon=-97.775273&lat=30.489251&mag=4

Google maps was quirky with that address for me too. Wouldn't even take Round Rock. Had to put in Austin for the city.

I figured from the Woodz, go 290 to 35 then go Nth. Must be an exit to W Parmer Ln from 35. There's probably a more direct way. But my sense of direction sucks. So I figured I better stick to main roads.

Thanks anyway.

[unbiasedobserver]

SV wins this one. I think this early in the year with the Woods having so many new starters they will not be ready to handle SV. Later in the year in might be a game, but not this early.
As to last year, neither team was particularly impressive in the game. SV was clearly better than a very average Woods team. I do think SV got better as the year went on the same really can't be said for the Highlanders. They probably played thier best game of the year the next week against Katy.

[svhorns]

Google maps was quirky with that address for me too. Wouldn't even take Round Rock. Had to put in Austin for the city.

I figured from the Woodz, go 290 to 35 then go Nth. Must be an exit to W Parmer Ln from 35. There's probably a more direct way. But my sense of direction sucks. So I figured I better stick to main roads.

Thanks anyway.

I live about 5 minutes away from the stadium... let me know where you're coming in from and I'll give you the quickest way...

[twcpfan1]

I live about 5 minutes away from the stadium... let me know where you're coming in from and I'll give you the quickest way...

From The Woodlands, we would normally take 290 W to get to Austin. Not quite sure what the best way is to get to RR from hwy 290.

[svhorns]

From The Woodlands, we would normally take 290 W to get to Austin. Not quite sure what the best way is to get to RR from hwy 290.

Yeah your best bet would just be to take 290 to 35N then exit Parmer Ln. your going to be on Parmer for a little while though I'd say about 15-20 minutes (lots of traffic lights...) you'll pass McNeil dr. it's about another 7-10 minutes after that... you'll go over 620 and the stadium is going to be about another minute on the left side...

[twcpfan1]

Yeah your best bet would just be to take 290 to 35N then exit Parmer Ln. your going to be on Parmer for a little while though I'd say about 15-20 minutes (lots of traffic lights...) you'll pass McNeil dr. it's about another 7-10 minutes after that... you'll go over 620 and the stadium is going to be about another minute on the left side...

Thanks for the info. It's much appreciated.

[twcpfan1]

Oh by the way, SVHorns. If I'm too lazy to drive home to the Woodlands, is there a Motel 6 near the stadium?

[humpty dumpty]

the valley girls win by 3TD

[svhorns]

the valley girls win by 3TD

LOL...

[stevefoxsc]

Oh by the way, SVHorns. If I'm too lazy to drive home to the Woodlands, is there a Motel 6 near the stadium?

google and the internet are great things...

[twcpfan1]

google and the internet are great things...

Ok. Try googling motels near RR ISD Stadium. And see if you get any hits :rolleyes:

The guy was nice enough to offer directions since he lives 5 mins away. Thought it might be easier to ask him. It's not like the game is tomorrow or something. :rolleyes:

[svhorns]

Ok. Try googling motels near RR ISD Stadium. And see if you get any hits :rolleyes:

The guy was nice enough to offer directions since he lives 5 mins away. Thought it might be easier to ask him. It's not like the game is tomorrow or something. :rolleyes:

yea it's no problem... heres a link with the closes places to stay...

on the map the stadium would be just a little bit passed the railroad tracks on parmer ln. and 620 on the left side heading northwest...

http://www.extendedstaynetwork.com/Search/SearchCity.cfm?State=TX&City=CEDAR%20PARK&Airport=&vType=&Go=1&

[svfootball45]

why must the game be played in round rock???
why not SV or the Woodlands?
it just seems odd to play in round rock

[twcpfan1]

yea it's no problem... heres a link with the closes places to stay...

on the map the stadium would be just a little bit passed the railroad tracks on parmer ln. and 620 on the left side heading northwest...

http://www.extendedstaynetwork.com/Search/SearchCity.cfm?State=TX&City=CEDAR%20PARK&Airport=&vType=&Go=1&

Appreciate the help.

[twcpfan1]

why must the game be played in round rock???
why not SV or the Woodlands?
it just seems odd to play in round rock

It's the Round Rock Classic. Like last year when they played another special event gig. Dave Campbell's tournament at the Alamodome.

[svhorns]

why must the game be played in round rock???
why not SV or the Woodlands?
it just seems odd to play in round rock

I get one game to see SV play around my house... you get all the other home games... shut your mouth :D

[svhorns]

Appreciate the help.

no problem

[twhfan#1]

There are 2 stadiums in Round Rock ISD :

Dragon Stadium @ 620 Lake Creek --home to Round Rock & RR Stoney Point

Round Rock Stadium @ 10211 W Parmer --home to RR Westwood & RR McNiel

I assume the RR clasic will be at the newer RR Stadium on W Parmer -- but has ANYBODY seen anything official on this ??

[twcpfan1]

There are 2 stadiums in Round Rock ISD :

Dragon Stadium @ 620 Lake Creek --home to Round Rock & RR Stoney Point

Round Rock Stadium @ 10211 W Parmer --home to RR Westwood & RR McNiel

I assume the RR clasic will be at the newer RR Stadium on W Parmer -- but has ANYBODY seen anything official on this ??

Highlander Football website has been a little slow with the info this time around. I remember this time last year, they had details on special rates at the Marriot and all, for the Alamodome game well in advance.

Kilt Boy says he is going to the one at W Parmer Lane.

[SVite]

why must the game be played in round rock???
why not SV or the Woodlands?
it just seems odd to play in round rock


Well, it`s real simple. Every 2 years a schedule is made up for a home, and away game, the next year . Or they can meet on a nuetral site like last years alamodome, and an agreed nuetral site the next year, which will be Round Rock this year. Last year SV played Spring at the valley, this year SV travels to Spring.

[CKE]

There are 2 stadiums in Round Rock ISD :

Dragon Stadium @ 620 Lake Creek --home to Round Rock & RR Stoney Point

Round Rock Stadium @ 10211 W Parmer --home to RR Westwood & RR McNiel

I assume the RR clasic will be at the newer RR Stadium on W Parmer -- but has ANYBODY seen anything official on this ??

yes it is we played in the classic the first year it was built

[Kilt-Boy]

Highlander Football website has been a little slow with the info this time around. I remember this time last year, they had details on special rates at the Marriot and all, for the Alamodome game well in advance.

Kilt Boy says he is going to the one at W Parmer Lane.

SV's web-site has directions posted to Parmer location.....

1-2 were SA specific.
3. Take I-35 NORTH - go xx.x mi
4. Take the Exit 240B exit - go 0.1 mi
5. Exit 240B becomes ramp - go 0.5 mi
6. Merge on US-183 NORTH - go 11.3 mi
7. Turn on RANCH ROAD 620 N - go 1.4 mi
8. Continue on ramp - go 0.6 mi
9. Turn on W PARMER LN - go 1.3 mi
10. Arrive at 10211 W PARMER LN, AUSTIN


OR I-35 North to Roundrock - Left on RR620- Right on W Parmer Lane

[tbonne]

It's the Round Rock Classic. Like last year when they played another special event gig. Dave Campbell's tournament at the Alamodome.
It is the 4th annual Great Texas Sports Shootout. Not the RR Classic

[twcpfan1]

Well I'm in a coffee shop (It's a Grind) somewhere Nth of Austin (on W Parmer Lane). I got here an hour early. I think I'm about 20 mins from the Stadium. Free Wi-Fi here. Cool.

Getting caffeined up for the drive home tonight :D. Austin traffic sucks.

Stopped in Elgin for some BBQ :D on the way here.

[twcpfan1]

Great. It's raining here :mad: