Trash talk free Miami NW vs SLC

[ScottS]

New thread to discuss, in a civil manner, MNW vs SLC. I see the development of the SLC defense the key to the game. SLC has to rebuild the defense, needing to replace 9 starters. We know the MNW offense is loaded, with many D1 type players.

[Favpack]

Good points - this could be a track meet that early in the year. Rest assured - SLC will destroy their db's without tremendous pressure on Riley - they will have no clue how to stop the SLC O.

[green day]

New thread to discuss, in a civil manner, MNW vs SLC. I see the development of the SLC defense the key to the game. SLC has to rebuild the defense, needing to replace 9 starters. We know the MNW offense is loaded, with many D1 type players.


Care to project that Defensive group? Besides Tomlin, Anderson, who looks like they could have a spot?

[boto24]

Let me pose this question. Has Southlake rebuilt their defense time after time over the last five years? The answer is a resounding yes. Granted they don't have a DC at this point, unless one has recently been hired. Having to replace nine starters on either side of the ball is a real challenge, but this is where SLC's feeder programs pay their dividends. Most starters at Carroll don't start until they're a senior unless they're exceptionally talented standouts at the JV level.

Two areas SLC will heavily outweigh MNW is depth (backups that can play just as good as the starters) and the consistency of coaching at the sub-levels. Sub-level excellence, combined with utilizing every minute in the offseason (excellent time management) to groom the underclassmen for the upcoming season has allowed Carroll to fill the voids they have year after year.

They teach techniques and schemes to the kids starting in 4th and 5th grade. By the time these kids reach the 11th and 12th grade, the system is engrained in their psyche. Why do you think Carroll continues to produce D1 quarterbacks year after year, some of which don't even start until they're a senior? It's because of a world class system that's been in place there for over 20 years. Their performance on the field is a reflection of their values off the field. The Class of 2008 is no exception. Carroll will have nothing but respect for MNW, but you can bet Carroll will not be outworked by any team in the offseason.

I think MNW is a real threat, but they have never, let me repeat that, NEVER played an opponent with an athletic system as organized or disciplined as Carroll. There MIGHT be five public schools in the nation that are comparable to Carroll in overall emphasis on excellence in every phase of education from academics to athletics. If anyone thinks MNW will simply out-muscle, outrun, or out-athlete SLC, they will be in for a real shock on Sept. 15th. All other teams and coaches that had that philosophy are 0-79 against Carroll over the past five years.

[HUM398]

Let me pose this question. Has Southlake rebuilt their defense time after time over the last five years? The answer is a resounding yes. Granted they don't have a DC at this point, unless one has recently been hired. Having to replace nine starters on either side of the ball is a real challenge, but this is where SLC's feeder programs pay their dividends. Most starters at Carroll don't start until they're a senior unless they're exceptionally talented standouts at the JV level.

Two areas SLC will heavily outweigh MNW is depth (backups that can play just as good as the starters) and the consistency of coaching at the sub-levels. Sub-level excellence, combined with utilizing every minute in the offseason (excellent time management) to groom the underclassmen for the upcoming season has allowed Carroll to fill the voids they have year after year.

They teach techniques and schemes to the kids starting in 4th and 5th grade. By the time these kids reach the 11th and 12th grade, the system is engrained in their psyche. Why do you think Carroll continues to produce D1 quarterbacks year after year, some of which don't even start until they're a senior? It's because of a world class system that's been in place there for over 20 years. Their performance on the field is a reflection of their values off the field. The Class of 2008 is no exception. Carroll will have nothing but respect for MNW, but you can bet Carroll will not be outworked by any team in the offseason.

I think MNW is a real threat, but they have never, let me repeat that, NEVER played an opponent with an athletic system as organized or disciplined as Carroll. There MIGHT be five public schools in the nation that are comparable to Carroll in overall emphasis on excellence in every phase of education from academics to athletics. If anyone thinks MNW will simply out-muscle, outrun, or out-athlete SLC, they will be in for a real shock on Sept. 15th. All other teams and coaches that had that philosophy are 1-79 against Carroll over the past five years.


Two things.

Great post. Right on the money.

Two, Not all coaches thought they could out muscle and out athlete Carroll. Katy's Program is very similar in the way its run, and thats the reason why they were able to pull a victory away from SLC. They have the same type of depth, and same type philosophy as far as Fundamentals and coaching go.

Good Luck to SLC...Even though i deeply hate you.

But i hate Florida more.

[boto24]

Two things.

Great post. Right on the money.

Two, Not all coaches thought they could out muscle and out athlete Carroll. Katy's Program is very similar in the way its run, and thats the reason why they were able to pull a victory away from SLC. They have the same type of depth, and same type philosophy as far as Fundamentals and coaching go.

Good Luck to SLC...Even though i deeply hate you.

But i hate Florida more.

I agree with you 100%. Change noted. This is the only way Katy was able to defeat Carroll - by having the same type of program in place - and of course making an outstanding play in the fourth quarter.

[dragons08]

Let me pose this question. Has Southlake rebuilt their defense time after time over the last five years? The answer is a resounding yes. Granted they don't have a DC at this point, unless one has recently been hired. Having to replace nine starters on either side of the ball is a real challenge, but this is where SLC's feeder programs pay their dividends. Most starters at Carroll don't start until they're a senior unless they're exceptionally talented standouts at the JV level.

Two areas SLC will heavily outweigh MNW is depth (backups that can play just as good as the starters) and the consistency of coaching at the sub-levels. Sub-level excellence, combined with utilizing every minute in the offseason (excellent time management) to groom the underclassmen for the upcoming season has allowed Carroll to fill the voids they have year after year.

They teach techniques and schemes to the kids starting in 4th and 5th grade. By the time these kids reach the 11th and 12th grade, the system is engrained in their psyche. Why do you think Carroll continues to produce D1 quarterbacks year after year, some of which don't even start until they're a senior? It's because of a world class system that's been in place there for over 20 years. Their performance on the field is a reflection of their values off the field. The Class of 2008 is no exception. Carroll will have nothing but respect for MNW, but you can bet Carroll will not be outworked by any team in the offseason.

I think MNW is a real threat, but they have never, let me repeat that, NEVER played an opponent with an athletic system as organized or disciplined as Carroll. There MIGHT be five public schools in the nation that are comparable to Carroll in overall emphasis on excellence in every phase of education from academics to athletics. If anyone thinks MNW will simply out-muscle, outrun, or out-athlete SLC, they will be in for a real shock on Sept. 15th. All other teams and coaches that had that philosophy are 0-79 against Carroll over the past five years.
very very good post.

as far as defensive starts, you had quite a few players get a lot of PT last year, by doing rotations throughout the game. so lack of PT shouldnt be a problem.

[yankee]

Care to project that Defensive group? Besides Tomlin, Anderson, who looks like they could have a spot?

prigmore (DL), stoltzman (LB), maynard (LB/S), cade foster (if he's not kicker next year, he'll be on the defensive side of the ball)

i'll see if i can come up with anymore.

[rancher52]

Indeed, a good post. My only observation would be to note that the production of D1 QBs or even D1 players period is really a more recent event (the last 4 years or so). The success of SLC predates any significant number of big time college players and to me, that is just as much a part of the story. Of course, playing on the bigger stage of 5A ball has thrust more players into the limelight and perhaps had those teams of the 80's and 90's had that maybe there would have been more to excel at the next level. To me it is amazing that the program, the coaching, the support, and all the factors other than just the athletic ability of the players seem to elevate the play of this team much the same way today as it did 20 years ago.

[yankee]

Murphy (DB), Bridgers (DL), Carroll (DL), Beall (DL)

all of the guys i've mentioned have seen some PT at the varsity level, some more than others.

[boto24]

I'm sure a lot of the defensive standouts for SLC in this game will not be known by many people outside of SLC. Being underestimated by their opponent in the talent category has always worked to SLC's advantage when they step onto the field. All I am reading and seeing from the Florida posters is 'this guy is D1 talent' and 'this guy already signed with Miami' and 'this guy is 6'5" and 300lbs.' Who cares?

The real question is: How will they play as a team against Carroll? An even bigger question is: How will they play as a team when they get down by one or two scores? Will the wheels fall off or can this team stay mentally focused under adverse conditions? Carroll has proven they can (eg. Lufkin, Trinity, SV) in the playoff pressure-cooker type games. Performing under adverse conditions that they're not familiar with may be the real challenge (x-factor) for MNW in this game.

Not trying to downplay Florida football competition level, but who outside of Florida has heard of any of the teams from their 2006 schedule? Carroll had to defeat the defending 5A champion Trinity, who was undefeated at the time they played. Did MNW face a likewise opponent in their playoff run? Many of the teams Carroll plays in the playoffs are regularly listed as regionally or nationally ranked teams. Can the same be said for MNW?

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

I'll take a shot at this.

On offense I'm not sure how much more needs to be said, but there are four open spots so here it goes - SLC needs to find someone at OG and OT on the right side and I think that recent history suggests that they'll be able to handle this without too much trouble. Some names I have seen thrown around - Ervin, Boyles, Youngers, Acton, McWhirter. I'm sure there are a few other kids I'm not aware of who are right in the thick of things and who can position themselves to get in the race for an open starting spot. Whoever works hardest... Ditto the open slot receiver spot - Cantu is Cantu, Brainard is Brainard, and Cunningham should return with a lot of big things on the outside. They need to find a guy for that open slot spot and I know Rake, Freeman, and Gray are all kids who have ability. I have heard that there were several impressive FR and SO WRs last year, so you would hope that one or two of them would have a huge off-season and push the upperclassmen. Ford Renfro - ??? Sounds like he has his brother's speed but I don't really know how much football skill he has as I don't get to see/hear SLC's JV games.

Defense - should be a lot of fun. Four or five guys return who saw significant "heat-of-the-action" minutes - LB Tomlin, FS Anderson, DT Carroll, DT Prigmore, and maybe DT Beall. On the DL, you have to figure that Carroll and Prigmore have a good shot at being two of the four. If you follow the combine circuit, you know that DE Jackson Richards has a lot of explosion on a legit 6'3" 235lbs. frame - I can't see an athlete like that not taking one of the open DE spots, especially after hearing how he did during playoff practices last year. He has legit D1 numbers right now as a freshman. Brayden Burnett is supposedly quite an athlete, and I have heard Bridgers' name thrown around on this board a few times also. As with the OL, I'm sure there are some kids who are working hard to push these guys for a spot. Linebacker - I have heard from someone I trust that Tomlin, Maynard, and Stultzman look like the best bets at this point. Long way to go. I know Foster is a freak athlete for his age and I've also heard that the JV squad had some aggressive kids who could push.

DB is the most interesting unit and also the group I have heard least about. Anderson is a gimme - quick and big hitter. I understand that Murphey got a lot of time at corner last year, and I have heard Townsend mentioned. Looking at SLC track results, Townsend sounds like a kid with legit speed. Some other kids whose names I've seen thrown out - Rake, Troop, Osborne, Jameson.

I really don't know much about the DB group other than names. Anyone care to provide some insight on those kids? If none of the new guys stand out at corner I wouldn't be surprised to see Anderson move down to corner - he struck me as the kind of kid who has the agility to be a good one when I saw him last year and it's generally easier to find safeties than corners at the high school level, especially if you're going to play an aggressive m2m scheme with your CBs. Then again, it is nice to have that kind of experience and make-up speed back deep at the FS spot so who knows.

Bottom line - with all of the talk about MNW's talent, SLC is going to throw out a great group of athletes themselves. Everyone knows about Dodge, Newton, and Cantu but go check out what Tomlin, Richards, Scwartzstein and Jackson have done against nationally elite competition at recent combines - their numbers stack up against anyone.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

Miami Northwestern:

At QB, Jacory Harris is one of the best QBs that Dade County has produced in years - maybe since Rohan Davey (LSU, Patriots) back in the late 90s. He's a tall, slender kid who benefits from an exceptional WR group. That WR group consists of Aldarius Johnson, Tommy Streeter, and Kendall Thompkins. Johnson and Streeter are both big, fast kids (Johnson is a very stout 6'2.5" and Streeter a lanky 6'6" kid). Thompkins would be the primary receiver at almost any other HS in the country. Johnson and Streeter will attend college wherever they want (OK, maybe they won't be enrolling @ Harvard) and Thompkins has a great shot at being D1 himself. At RB the Bulls lose Antwain Easterling but return a really quick kid named Daquan Hargrett who has electronic 10.7 speed in the 100m. He was a big play backup for them last year. Along the OL, they will be a large group headlined by Brandon Washington and Terrell Killings. Both are huge, fast, and will be nationally recruited. As a whole they are maulers, albeit not the most technically sound group.

On defense, Marcus Forston at DT is probably one of the best 5 DT recruits I've seen in the last 3 or 4 years. He is huge, quick, and has advanced technique. His brother signed with Ole Miss out of high school a few years back. He is the absolute real deal. Ben Jones is a stud himself (6'6" 280) and blew up at the recent Scout combine held at the U of Miami. Don't be surprised to see Killing and Washington serve spot duty here as both of them have DL agility. At LB they have three kids who will have a shot at D1 - Sean Spence is the headliner. He is a tackling machine and actually very similar to Derek Tomlin athletically - not the biggest kid but smart and fast. The secondary will be new faces at MNW, but they are always athletic - Keith Richburg and Steve Gallon are two kids in the MNW secondary who recently did very well for themselves at the Scout combine. They'll have a lot of talent back there, but we'll see how they handle SLC's passing attack.

[Bobcat81]

How bout it guys.. What do you say about inviting the "all time" leading rusher in high school history, Ken Hall, to have the honor of doing the coin toss to start the Southlake vs. MNW game?

What an honor to have a legend take part in such a significant event in Texas high school football.

I think someone should see about making it happen. Does anyone know the President of the school board, and athletic director at Southlake?

What better representation could a texas high school championship team get at midfield to start a game than Ken Hall. THE "National High School Heisman Trophy" model himself. And, he's from Texas!

[BAMF cowboy]

What week is the game scheduled to be played?

[twcpfan1]

We can speculate, disect and theorize all we want about why Carroll has an advantage on the basis of history and an absolutely infallible system.

But when all is said and done, every play will be Carroll's 11 vs MNW's 11. I have a feeling that both teams will be at their best on every play.

This one will be a toss-up.

[drgnbkr]

What week is the game scheduled to be played?

September 15th

[The Dude]

I agree with you 100%. Change noted. This is the only way Katy was able to defeat Carroll - by having the same type of program in place - and of course making an outstanding play in the fourth quarter.

the great effort by the Katy defense all game holding SLC to a mere 15 points(which is something no one has come CLOSE to doing since) had nothing to do with it either I'm sure. The dominating play of the offensive line allowing James Aston to run for over 200 yards and control the tempo of the game as well as the clock was absolutely meaningless in the outcome of the game as well I'm sure

On topic though, I'm ready for this game. I hope I won't be tied up with something else at Evangel next season so I'll be able to make the drive over to DFW to see this game. I agree that the key is Southlake's defensive play. However, I'm not at all concerned about it. Sure they lost a lot of starters and their DC, but this is Southlake. They are only going to hire the next best DC and in programs like Southlake, you're bred to win. Whoever steps up as the new starters will be great players themselves, confident in what they can do and determined to "protect the tradition." I'm sure they will all be nervous after stepping onto such a grand stage and there will be mistakes here and there, but that's expected at that time of the season,especially with such a large amount of turnover. But overall you really can't expect the very underrated play of the SLC defense to drop off much.

I think it'll be a high scoring 1st quarter because of high emotions and athletically stacked offenses as well as each coach possibly trying to make an opening statement. The majority of the defensive players will be in 1st year roles calming their nerves in the 1st qtr as well but again, they'll come around. But SLC's discipline and overall greatness of a program will be too much to handle throughout the rest of the game and the Dragons will easily run away with it. MNW will be in shock as they witness (what I expect to be) a nearly flawlessly executed gameplan unfold in front of them while they are stuck relying on their own gameplan which knows nothing but individual athletic talent alone. There really is no way the Bulls will keep this one close throughout 4 quarters of Southlake football

[twcpfan1]

September 15th


I'm hoping TW College Park has a Friday game lined up that week. I'd like to be able to make it to DFW for that game.

[ScottS]

Good Luck to SLC...Even though i deeply hate you.

But i hate Florida more.

Yeah, I feel the love.

[ScottS]

OakTree,
Did Miami NW pick up some other recruits from Edison?

[BAMF cowboy]

September 15th

what week is that though? Week 0, Week 1 etc?

[bigdaddydog]

what week is that though? Week 0, Week 1 etc?

Should be week 2. Third game of the "non district" set of 4 games.


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[drgnbkr]

Should be week 2. Third game of the "non district" set of 4 games.


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Yeah, sorry...Carroll doesn't play in week 0 and has no bye week...

[FeeltheHaka]

I think one area that Southlake will dominate is scouting. Southlake has the money to have someone in Miami to scout. I'm talking parent volunteer. I'm not talking about Southlake actually paying to put someone up in Miami just for scouting. I am willing to bet this will happen.
As far as Southlake being out-athleted? Come on, with Southlake's training regimen; how much more of an athlete can someone provide?
We all know in the discipline department and mental game, Southlake will have a lock on this. I can't wait to watch that Miami nutjob of a coach pop a gasket, then watch Miami fall apart. This is not trash talk, but opinion.
As far as Southlake's defense: as others have mentioned, it is the system.
Players have seen enough time when Coach Mendoza puts them in when Southlake gets a comfortable lead, and no one has put up too many points on Southlake. Tomlinson, has played enough beside General Padron to learn how to lead and read; so I'm speculating that Tomlinson will do things just like General Padron.
I am really looking forward to this game. I already know the outcome, but it is like watching a car wreck.

[TXFOOSBALL]

I think one area that Southlake will dominate is scouting. Southlake has the money to have someone in Miami to scout. I'm talking parent volunteer. I'm not talking about Southlake actually paying to put someone up in Miami just for scouting. I am willing to bet this will happen.
As far as Southlake being out-athleted? Come on, with Southlake's training regimen; how much more of an athlete can someone provide?
We all no in the discipline department and mental game, Southlake will have a lock on this. I can't wait to watch that Miami nutjob of a coach pop a gasket, then watch Miami fall apart. This is not trash talk, but opinion.
As far as Southlake's defense: as others have mentioned, it is the system.
Players have seen enough time when Coach Mendoza puts them in when Southlake gets a comfortable lead, and no one has put up too many points on Southlake. Tomlinson, has played enough beside General Padron to learn how to lead and read; so I'm speculating that Tomlinson will do things just like General Padron.
I am really looking forward to this game. I already no the outcome, but it is like watching a car wreck.

Southlake has LT??

[1337boy]

Southlake has LT??

ya i saw that too

DT=LT? not bad

[dragons08]

Southlake has LT??

he was tired of losing every year in San Diego, thought he'd come to a winner. took a pay cut though...

[Bobcat81]

So what do you guys think of the "Ken Hall" proposal?

Yea or Nay?

[Bobcat81]

29 hours and not a peep out of anyone... AMAZING!!!

at least two say "Yea" anyway.. myself and "The Great Evaluator"

[drgnbkr]

29 hours and not a peep out of anyone... AMAZING!!!

at least two say "Yea" anyway.. myself and "The Great Evaluator"

I think it's a great idea...just don't know any of the sports marketing people to approach with it. They are running this show...

[Bobcat81]

I think it's a great idea...just don't know any of the sports marketing people to approach with it. They are running this show...

I'm sure the people at Gridiron Films would know what route to take as far as sponsorship and details, and of course the Southlake board of directors would have to approve it. Any of you guys have connections with the athletic director up there? I'd run the idea by him/her and see what they say. Maybe the KT's & 5ATexasFootball would even like to be a part of the deal. I'll shoot em a msg and see what they say.

I think it would really be something to see and be a part of. Let me know what you find out. I'd be glad to help any way i can. Give me a PM if you like.

Thanks drgnbkr

[3tWarEagle]

i highly doubt anyone will go inperson to see MNW play...film exchange will prob be the extent of the scouting. Im sure there will be some phone calls to some FLA coaches in the area as well.

[drgnbkr]

I'm sure the people at Gridiron Films would know what route to take as far as sponsorship and details, and of course the Southlake board of directors would have to approve it. Any of you guys have connections with the athletic director up there? I'd run the idea by him/her and see what they say. Maybe the KT's & 5ATexasFootball would even like to be a part of the deal. I'll shoot em a msg and see what they say.

I think it would really be something to see and be a part of. Let me know what you find out. I'd be glad to help any way i can. Give me a PM if you like.

Thanks drgnbkr

Again, Carroll is not putting on this show, they are just playing in it...The Carroll athletic department wouldn't have any more say in the matter than the MNW folks..I think it would be a great thing to recognize Ken Hall in this way..

[bigdaddydog]

Yeah, sorry...Carroll doesn't play in week 0 and has no bye week...

So it is week 2.

Carroll's bye week is week 0. So it will be Carroll's 2nd game of the non district games.


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[DrEdward]

i highly doubt anyone will go inperson to see MNW play...film exchange will prob be the extent of the scouting. Im sure there will be some phone calls to some FLA coaches in the area as well.


I am not aware of anyone from Carroll planning to head down to Miami to watch NW play their first game next season, although it could happen. I also believe the MNW coach has stated that he is planning to come out to Texas to watch the Carroll spring game. But that could well be just a rumor.

[dada]

I'm the only scout you guys need!

http://www.floridafb.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11200&ATCLID=838855

[FeeltheHaka]

I am not aware of anyone from Carroll planning to head down to Miami to watch NW play their first game next season, although it could happen. I also believe the MNW coach has stated that he is planning to come out to Texas to watch the Carroll spring game. But that could well be just a rumor.

I am basing my scouting opinion on how extensively y'all scouted us. There were 2 to 4 scouts at everyone of our games, 5 games before we played y'all.
At that point, it wasn't even close to for sure if we were going to play you. I'm guessing y'all had scouts at several other games to cover the bases.

[OakTreeUp-n-Out]

ScottS - I'm sorry I didn't see your question until now. I am playing the wait-and-see game on the Edison kids. I think it's a given that several of them are heading to MNW (Washington most certainly) but I'll wait until that's all confirmed before I call it done.

On the same subject, here's something I read today from a MNW grad who frequents the message boards. I can't vouch for the validity of any of his claims about the kid's credentials, but many have mentioned that this kid HAS transferred in, so take the details for what they're worth:

"Miami Nothwestern (the West) just got a kid who transferred in from St. Thomas named (Corvin Lamb JR.) he's currently a freshman. The kid is the reigning National Junior Olympic Champion in the 100M, 200M, 400M and is a stud at (RB) & (FS).

He's a park legend in the North Dade area and nicknamed "Baby Bo Jackson". (The West) is in good shape for the future.

I ask this kid who plays Football for (MNW) who I seen yesterday at the Miami Nike Combine I ask him about him, he said the kid is built like a (DE) or (OLB) so I assume he's pretty big. "

[ScottS]

OakTree,
Thanks for responding. It gets tougher and tougher with all the transfers. Its gotta now be considered SLC vs Miami All-Stars.

[78 Spartan]

OakTree,
Thanks for responding. It gets tougher and tougher with all the transfers. Its gotta now be considered SLC vs Miami All-Stars.

Great teams always beat all-star teams. Think about the Boston Celtics and how many years in a row they beat Wilt, Elgin Baylor and Jerry West.

I'm glad that SLC will be featured in this measuring stick game. If they take care of business like I am pretty sure they will, there won't be any further debate about who plays the best football in the US -- regardless of what USA Today seems to think.

[SLCDad]

I'm glad that SLC will be featured in this measuring stick game. If they take care of business like I am pretty sure they will, there won't be any further debate about who plays the best football in the US -- regardless of what USA Today seems to think.USA Today has treated Texas well. They gave SLC the national title twice in the last three years (2004, 2006). Granted, they messed up in 2005.

[drgnbkr]

USA Today has treated Texas well. They gave SLC the national title twice in the last three years (2004, 2006). Granted, they messed up in 2005.

05 was weird, they (USA Today) were the only ones who didn't anoint the Dragons.

[ScottS]

For a Florida perspective on the game...
http://flavarsity.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?SID=957&fid=326&style=2&tid=88914466&Page=1

[dada]

You can check out some videos here
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high_school/miami_dade/

[Texasfrog]

I'm sure a lot of the defensive standouts for SLC in this game will not be known by many people outside of SLC. Being underestimated by their opponent in the talent category has always worked to SLC's advantage when they step onto the field. All I am reading and seeing from the Florida posters is 'this guy is D1 talent' and 'this guy already signed with Miami' and 'this guy is 6'5" and 300lbs.' Who cares?

The real question is: How will they play as a team against Carroll? An even bigger question is: How will they play as a team when they get down by one or two scores? Will the wheels fall off or can this team stay mentally focused under adverse conditions? Carroll has proven they can (eg. Lufkin, Trinity, SV) in the playoff pressure-cooker type games. Performing under adverse conditions that they're not familiar with may be the real challenge (x-factor) for MNW in this game.

Not trying to downplay Florida football competition level, but who outside of Florida has heard of any of the teams from their 2006 schedule? Carroll had to defeat the defending 5A champion Trinity, who was undefeated at the time they played. Did MNW face a likewise opponent in their playoff run? Many of the teams Carroll plays in the playoffs are regularly listed as regionally or nationally ranked teams. Can the same be said for MNW?

First of all, in Florida that is what it's all about for 95% of it. How many D-1A players you have on your roster. That's what they are used to and that's how they evaluate their teams. By the simple "talent level" and just about everything else a non-factor (coaching, scheming, technique, team chemistry, feeder system and ect).

I can also promise you that MNW has never played a "TEAM" like SLC. Not even close.

[CFlb38 08]

lol omg so much hype about this game!!!

[drgnbkr]

lol omg so much hype about this game!!!

Your right...I like it when the Miami guy gets on here, because most of the talk is from us Texas guys...I think it will be a tough game but the Dragons should be ok.

[svhorns]

Your right...I like it when the Miami guy gets on here, because most of the talk is from us Texas guys...I think it will be a tough game but the Dragons should be ok.

you gotta go recruit some Florida people... I went of FLAvarsity.com and tried there

[ScottS]

Check out this post from a Miami fan...

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I got my $100! you not saying anything. Dude SLC is going ot have 9 different players on Defense i'll give you that 21 all day. I trust our defense to make about 5 or 6 stops and i don't see SLC stopping our offense at all we only lost 4 players 3 o-linemen and 1 RB

It's all about the west!!!!
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scroll to the bottom of this thread

http://flavarsity.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?SID=957&fid=326&style=2&tid=88914466&Page=7

[dada]

http://www.floridafb.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11200&ATCLID=848332

[Texasfrog]

I just heard that Superman has transfered into MNW to play football and is going to play all 11 positions. "Now I'm a little nervous.";)