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78 Spartan
03-30-2007, 12:31 PM
Hey Bobcat friends:

Spring football is right around the corner and soon enough all the focus will be on the Week Zero season opener between Stratford and Cy Fair (I think it's going to be on Friday August 31).

We all know that two superstars of Texas high school football (McGuffie and Luck) will be on display that night. It should be a blast to watch.

But the game's outcome will almost certainly hinge on the other 21 guys (plus special teams) that will complement the superstars. So let's stay in touch about how things are looking as we go through the Spring.

Stratford has a ton of re-loading to do around Luck. We have two returning starting WRs and one returning starter on the OL. We need to find our RB this spring and we need the new OL to come together (I am confident they will). On defense we should be fairly strong on the DL and experienced in the DBs but need new LBs to step up.

Tell me what Cy Fair's OL is going to look like...... and QB ..... and defense ..... etc.

This will be fun and I hope the game lives up to what I know will be a huge advance billing.

G.A.T.A.!!

CyFallsMom
03-30-2007, 01:43 PM
I don't know who is coming back but I am AT that game! May have to buy tickets early. Those two will be a major focus this season. Both are so talented and fun to watch. There are losses for both teams to graduation but they should be able to build back up around those two players. It may be a preview of the eventual regional finalist (aka whomever gets to play Katy):D

dada
03-30-2007, 03:25 PM
I think BOTH teams have a lot of rebuilding to do. Both of the these teams will look totaly different by the last week of district as they waiat for someone to step up....Besides Sam....not to many players of note coming back...graduation hit them HARD last year. Chase is gone, Galloway is gone....so is much of that great OL.....but I AM on the outside looking in so maybe a bobcat fan can step in and give more insight about other players.

CyFair'86
03-30-2007, 11:37 PM
I have no ideal who's coming back, but I'll be at the game for sure. Mom you are going to be sitting on Fair's side aren't you?

Bobcat81
03-31-2007, 02:24 AM
Just a little from the Cy-Fair side from what i know. I'm not too educated on what underclassmen will be moving up as that will be where most of the changes will be made as it gets closer to the season opener.

Starting QB should be Gavin West (SR) who played a fair amaount of time once the starters had a comfortable lead. Usually played 4th qrtr and some in the third. Not too sure about his throwing ability yet since he only threw a few times but his accuracy is good and has a good delivery.

RB's;

TB/(all purpose) - Sam McGuffie - (SR-Starter in 06) Enough said. Has gained some height and weight and from some of the track & testing stats... has improved physically. Being that his name is out there.. i'm sure defenses will be keying on him all season which will open up the passing game given QB West stays proficient in the air.

FB - Wesley Cobb - (SR), I think this kid will be equal to, if not better than Oliver Galloway was his senior year. Cobb has incredible leg strength, and has quite a bit of speed and is an awesome blocker. Cobb started for almost half the 06 season while Galloway was injured, and really did an outstanding job from his backup position. Very good short yardage back. Has good hands as well. A lot of people have said that Cobb applies himself with a great deal of determination and drive, much like McGuffie.

TE - Colby Goodwin - (JR) Goodwin was moved up to varisty early in the (06) season as a back up and additional TE for the then Sr. Brian Smith. He's a tall (6'-3") kid with a lot of heart. Needs to gain a few more pounds but should be a good starter at TE for 07. Remained in the game much of the season when Smith returned from injury. He will do well.

WR - Michael Zorn - (SR) Quick and has good hands.
WR - Andrew Hegarty - (SR) Fast and is a good downfield blocker.
WR - Gino Collins - (SR) Has some speed, made quite a few key catches in (06) and has some leaping ability to go for the ball.

K - Chris Patrick - (SR-starter in 06) Has a very strong & accurate leg. I look for the Cat's to rely on him quite a bit more while in FG range in (07). One of the top kickers in the state IMO.

OT - Chris Lathrop - (SR- Starter in 06) Very physical guy, strong, and blocks very well. Not much got by Lathrop last season, and i don't see things to change much in that regard for (07). The guy put quite a few DT's on the butt last season.

OT - Chase Simon - (SR) Was a good second teamer in (06) and has a lot of potential. Good size & strength.

C - Jeremy Strickler - (JR) Played backup for an awesome starter M. Castillo.

Defense:

DB - Peter Hand - (SR) Played pretty good on second team and reads the ball well.

CB - Michael Elliot - (SR-starter in 06) has a lot of speed and a good open field tackler. Had trouble with deep coverage in (06) but i expect he will be much improved by the (07) season.

DL - Travis Ashford - (SR) Saw a little playing time in (06)
DL - Austen Wozniak - (SR-starter in 06) Awesome power & quickness for his size. Hard to block. A lot of strength. Should be a key player on defense in (07).
DL - Karl Wolfe - (SR-starter in 06) Another guy that is hard to block. A lot of strength for his size. Wozniak & Wolfe should be a good team up front in (07).

LB - Daniel Moose - (SR) Should have a good year at LB in (07) Played backup with some experience.

Not too informed on who will be moving up from JV & SOPH levels, but there is quite a bit of athleticism to pick from in the underclassmen.

Bobcat81
03-31-2007, 07:09 AM
Some Cy-Fair (JV) squad info from 2006 season

Cy-Fair (JV) Maroon team

Record:
6 wins, 3 losses

PF - 232
PA - 150

Cy-Fair 12, Stratford 14 L
Cy-Fair 28, Klein Collins 0 W
Cy-Fair 0, Alief Taylor 14 L
Cy-Fair 34, Strake Jesuit 32 W
Cy-Fair 13, Jersey Village 22 L
Cy-Fair 49, Langham Creek 26 W
Cy-Fair vs. Cy-Woods (Rainout)*
Cy-Fair 27, Cy-Falls 13 W
Cy-Fair 34, Cy-Creek 22 W
Cy-Fair 35, Cy-Ridge 7 W

Cy-Fair (JV) White team

Record:
8 wins, 1 loss

PF - 178
PA - 72

Cy-Fair 16, Stratford 14 W
Cy-Fair 30, Klein Collins 14 W
Cy-Fair 26, Alief Taylor 8 W
Cy-Fair 6, Strake Jesuit 14 L
Cy-Fair 20, Jersey Village 0 W
Cy-Fair 26, Langham Creek 0 W
Cy-Fair 12, Cy-Woods 8 W
Cy-Fair 20, Cy-Falls 6 W
Cy-Fair 22, Cy-Creek 8 W

CyFallsMom
03-31-2007, 08:40 AM
I have no ideal who's coming back, but I'll be at the game for sure. Mom you are going to be sitting on Fair's side aren't you?

Save me a seat because I'm right there with you!! I may even wear maroon or the shirt that Pitcrewdad gave me last season. I sat on Stratford's side for many years but never again will that happen in my lifetime no matter what the game - so the Bobcats will have to have me on their side that night. Hey, I bring a bag full of Karma with me so it should be no contest - Bobcats by 14 is my early prediction:)

panamamyers
03-31-2007, 12:58 PM
I'll be there on the Stratford side. And on a side note, I hope the Cy-Fair fans that are on this thread not knowing what Cy-Fair has coming back are not the the ones that were all up in the forum last fall arguing all day about the greatness of Cy-Fair.

It's one thing to brag on your team that you have been with and actually know about, but it's another to hop on a bandwagon of a team that you know nothing about, then be the most vocal supporter in the whole deal. Just my two cents.

CyFallsMom
03-31-2007, 03:43 PM
Yeah, they fought with me too the week we played and then they disappeared - never to be seen again. Except that a couple who had some class actually PM'd me after the game to apologize. For the most part, those who are still on here are class acts and I'm pretty sure you won't be seeing trash talk from them.

That being said, this Cy Falls fan hopes the Bobcats kick some major Spartan butt - again:) (I said it with a smile).

78 Spartan
03-31-2007, 06:03 PM
Just a little from the Cy-Fair side from what i know. I'm not too educated on what underclassmen will be moving up as that will be where most of the changes will be made as it gets closer to the season opener. ...........


Thanks for the excellent overview, Bob. I will try to post something similarly in-depth on the Spartans as we get into spring football.

Your Bobcats have a lot of class, great coaching and tradition (BFND), and we know they have the most exciting RB in the nation. So there is no doubt that even with all the new faces, Cy Fair is going to be a top notch team from the get-go. The Spartans know they have a big test ahead of them and I know it will motivate them all this spring and this summer to be as ready as possible.

Let's make sure we have 16,000 at Tully for that opener. It should be very exciting.

G.A.T.A.!!

78 Spartan
03-31-2007, 06:12 PM
I'll be there on the Stratford side.


And I'm DEFINITELY going to plan on catching a Gander game this fall. It sounds like they are going to be a great ballclub and fun to watch. Keep us posted on how they look this spring, ok?

78 Spartan
03-31-2007, 06:24 PM
For the most part, those who are still on here (from Cy Fair) are class acts and I'm pretty sure you won't be seeing trash talk from them.

I agree. Cy Fair fans = classy. I have enjoyed 100% of my interactions with them.

this Cy Falls fan hopes the Bobcats kick some major Spartan butt - again:) (I said it with a smile).

Leave it to Ms. Cy Falls to inject trash talk into what was intended to be a respectful, intelligent discussion about the first big game of the year around here. If you have something useful to add about the personnel on either team, feel free to chime in, otherwise please allow us to stay on topic here.

You can start your own "Ten Reasons Why I Hate Stratford" thread somewhere else, ok?

Bobcat81
03-31-2007, 07:26 PM
I have a feeling Tully is going to be litterally packed that night. I, for sure, will be there.

I'm having a tough time getting a (07) schedule for Cy-Fair so if anyone out there has one PM me or post it if you can.

We'll be looking forward to your post on the returning talent for Stratford.

Thanks Spartan ;)

HUM398
03-31-2007, 07:32 PM
I have a feeling Tully is going to be litterally packed that night. I, for sure, will be there.

I'm having a tough time getting a (07) schedule for Cy-Fair so if anyone out there has one PM me or post it if you can.

We'll be looking forward to your post on the returning talent for Stratford.

Thanks Spartan ;)

Cy-Fairs 2007 Schedule:

@ Houston Stratford HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Sat, Sep 1 6:00 PM TBA *

Spring Klein Collins HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Sep 7 7:30 PM TBA *

@ Houston Alief Taylor HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Sat, Sep 15 7:00 PM TBA *

Houston Strake Jesuit (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Sep 28 7:30 PM TBA *

Houston Jersey Village HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Oct 5 7:30 PM TBA *

@ Houston Langham Creek HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Oct 12 7:30 PM TBA *

Houston Cypress Falls HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Oct 19 7:30 PM TBA *

@ Cypress Springs HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Oct 26 7:30 PM TBA *

Houston Cypress Creek HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Nov 2 7:30 PM TBA *

@ Houston Cypress Ridge HS (0-0-0, 0-0-0)
Fri, Nov 9 7:30 PM TBA *

(Ignore the TBA... Its suppose to be where the score is. I got it off THSCA)

78 Spartan
03-31-2007, 07:36 PM
My sources in SBISD tell me the game will be on Friday night, not Saturday. But not yet official.

FYI.

Bobcat81
03-31-2007, 07:37 PM
Thank you HUM ;)

cyfallsbooster2
03-31-2007, 09:45 PM
I am very anticipatory of the upcoming year for the Spartans. If they can reload to go with Luck they will once again be a force to be concerned with. The Bobcats always seem to reload and compete at a high level. Thier having Superman in the backfield gives them a huge advantage to start next year with.

Stratford, IMO, was the most difficult team for Falls in the playoffs until they ran into Cedar Hill. If they can reload sufficiently to augment Luck and come close to last year's team, I say they take R3, D2 this next year.

Unless Falls reloads sufficiently also!:D

CyFair'86
03-31-2007, 10:33 PM
Save me a seat because I'm right there with you!! I may even wear maroon or the shirt that Pitcrewdad gave me last season. I sat on Stratford's side for many years but never again will that happen in my lifetime no matter what the game - so the Bobcats will have to have me on their side that night. Hey, I bring a bag full of Karma with me so it should be no contest - Bobcats by 14 is my early prediction:)

You'll probably get there before me so you'll have to save me a seat. :)

CyFallsMom
04-01-2007, 12:53 AM
Leave it to Ms. Cy Falls to inject trash talk into what was intended to be a respectful, intelligent discussion about the first big game of the year around here. If you have something useful to add about the personnel on either team, feel free to chime in, otherwise please allow us to stay on topic here.

You can start your own "Ten Reasons

I did add a :) though! But I really do hope Cy Fair wins...sorry - it's my neighborhood.

And there really are only two reasons and you know both...but I'll keep them out of this thread and neither have anything to do with the team. Those kids were very classy last year. If you actually think I would start a "I HATE anybody or any team" thread, then you are delusional. It's high school football, not the NFL. Again, it was because of a person and an event, not the team.

And I'm not "Ms Cy Falls" BTW just as you aren't "Mr. Stratford" - oh and :).

CyFallsMom
04-01-2007, 12:56 AM
Stratford, IMO, was the most difficult team for Falls in the playoffs until they ran into Cedar Hill

I do agree with this - Katy wasn't as hard to beat as the Spartans were. Luck and McGuffie are going to be fun to follow this year. Of course, we have Shane returning - hope we can reload and give him some room to fly like an Eagle again:D

78 Spartan
04-02-2007, 12:41 PM
The key offensive position for the Spartans to fill will be RB. When Brandon Carlin was in last year, his explosiveness gave defenses something to think about besides pressuring Luck. When BC was out, the defenses could get aggressive in blitzing because of Stratford's lack of a breakaway threat. Luck's statistics were much better when he had a credible running threat.

Tim Graves, a junior-to-be, is likely to be given the opportunity to be the main man in the backfield. He is classic RB height (5'10") and is putting on weight in the offseason and may be 185 by August. He is fast enough to run through secondaries. The key will be can he commit to hitting the hole hard rather than dancing around waiting for holes to be opened. That takes trust in your OL and guts and a willingness to deal with some big hits. Last year he did not have the size to hit the hole hard and he looked tentative out there -- but remember he was just a sophomore.

I expect he'll be able to deliver next fall, but it remains to be seen. There are others who could fill in, but Graves is the kid who is most likely to provide the needed spark. He's the kid to watch in spring football.

I have great confidence in the OL and in the WRs, so if the RB position is solidified look for Stratford to have another big year offensively.

CyFallsMom
04-02-2007, 12:51 PM
Did these WR's get some playing time last year? Even if they didn't, Luck is good enough that he would more than likely help raise them to the level needed to succeed and I'm sure spring training will help work out the kinks too.

Last year, against us, he was so accurate and fast. The fast part surprised me because of his size. And we were getting through the OL but he was spinning away from us and getting the yardage. Cy Fair is reloading in the same spots I believe. The draw (attendance wise) will be McGuffie and Luck at this point in the game. I hate to say one kid makes the difference but IMO, it does to a certain point with these two teams. I feel certain that neither one of those guys would agree - too classy and humble and too much of a team player...which is why they will both be so successful.

I'm sorry I pissed you off previously but, again, it's not about the team. Those kids were great last year.

78 Spartan
04-02-2007, 01:01 PM
No prob, I just was hoping for a smack-free thread.

Two WRs with starting experience are coming back: B.J. Griffin and Grant Josey. Griffin has the ability to be the home run hitter (he caught several deep balls last year), while Josey is more the possession type.

Ben Bredthauer, a varsity SS last year, is getting a look this spring as a slot receiver. He is tall, athletic and will make a good target. Daniel Janes, who was on the JV last year, has very good speed and could figure in also.

I understand we have two WRs transfering in from other schools who might make a big splash this spring. There are also a couple of very fast freshman who are going to get a look in spring football, don't know if they are ready for the show yet but they'll get their look.

I don't think any of them will be as good as John Sorsby was. Sorsby is going to be playing with J.J. McDermott out at NMSU next fall and I think he'll do well at the next level, although he was overlooked by many because he didn't have the requisite 4.5 or faster speed to turn heads at the combines.

But I don't think Andrew Luck needs John Sorsby to be successful next fall. He needs four or five steady guys who can run precise routes and catch his fastball. That, by the way, is easier said than done. Andrew can really bring it.

p.s. Graves may turn out to be a heck of a receiver coming out of the backfield.

Hoodleboy80
04-02-2007, 01:07 PM
Grant Josey split time at X, so he has some experience under his belt. B.J. Griffin, who started since week 3 I believe, will be returning, and a new reciever who recently moved to this area will occupy another starting spot. Daniel Janes will provide back up for most of these spots I believe, and an ex-outside linebacker who had an interception last year, is currently playing H. Spring football definately could change some of this up, but thats where the receiving corps stands as of now.

CyFallsMom, it isn't just 78 Spartan who is disapointed by what you said. I do not know what happened and completely understand if you do not want to support our team; I think its just the fact that your a great fan and we would have liked to have your support.

CyFallsMom
04-02-2007, 03:12 PM
Hoodleboy, please read your PM that I just sent. I don't feel the need to post this stuff but I know you will understand once you read it. Again, I have nothing against the Stratford team but I can't support the school for reasons you will understand once you go to your PM. I spent many hours and many nights watching and supporting and screaming my lungs out for the Spartans and still have much respect for the athletic programs over there. Just can't do it...sorry.

CyFallsMom
04-02-2007, 03:15 PM
No prob, I just was hoping for a smack-free thread.

Two WRs with starting experience are coming back: B.J. Griffin and Grant Josey. Griffin has the ability to be the home run hitter (he caught several deep balls last year), while Josey is more the possession type.

Ben Bredthauer, a varsity SS last year, is getting a look this spring as a slot receiver. He is tall, athletic and will make a good target. Daniel Janes, who was on the JV last year, has very good speed and could figure in also.

I understand we have two WRs transfering in from other schools who might make a big splash this spring. There are also a couple of very fast freshman who are going to get a look in spring football, don't know if they are ready for the show yet but they'll get their look.

I don't think any of them will be as good as John Sorsby was. Sorsby is going to be playing with J.J. McDermott out at NMSU next fall and I think he'll do well at the next level, although he was overlooked by many because he didn't have the requisite 4.5 or faster speed to turn heads at the combines.

But I don't think Andrew Luck needs John Sorsby to be successful next fall. He needs four or five steady guys who can run precise routes and catch his fastball. That, by the way, is easier said than done. Andrew can really bring it.

p.s. Graves may turn out to be a heck of a receiver coming out of the backfield.

I'll try to keep the smack out it:) . Thanks for the info.

cyfallsbooster2
04-02-2007, 04:41 PM
A strong suit that both Stratford and Fair had last year was their OL's. Both groups were of adequate size and strength and had very good technique. I originally felt both teams lost a lot in this area with graduation, but after reading this thread, neither may have as much reloading to do as my first impression. Stratford's OL protected Luck very well last year and I felt the few times Falls was able to get to him it was more of coverage sacks rather than an OL problem. Same with Fair, even with a back of McGuffie's caliber, a team does not have a 3000+ yard rusher without a great OL.

Too bad the game is occuring at the first of the year. The game may be better if they both were able to get a few games under their belts first. This early in the season, I would say it favors a running offense as the passing game has not had time to work out timing and location of routes yet. But, still the game should be on the area's radar screen as both teams project to the post season at this point in the year.

78 Spartan
04-02-2007, 04:52 PM
A strong suit that both Stratford and Fair had last year was their OL's. Both groups were of adequate size and strength and had very good technique. I originally felt both teams lost a lot in this area with graduation, but after reading this thread, neither may have as much reloading to do as my first impression. Stratford's OL protected Luck very well last year and I felt the few times Falls was able to get to him it was more of coverage sacks rather than an OL problem. Same with Fair, even with a back of McGuffie's caliber, a team does not have a 3000+ yard rusher without a great OL.

Too bad the game is occuring at the first of the year. The game may be better if they both were able to get a few games under their belts first. This early in the season, I would say it favors a running offense as the passing game has not had time to work out timing and location of routes yet. But, still the game should be on the area's radar screen as both teams project to the post season at this point in the year.

I'll have a projection for the OL pretty soon. Brian Hines (LG, 6'2, 260) is the only returning starter, and his time came primarily due to injury of the senior who was ahead of him. Jonathan O'Neal is a 300 pound senior who will be the beast of the group. Miles Flanagan (5'11", 240) is being moved from DL to C this spring and I would say that's the key move -- if he does well, it will go well. Also look for Will Swenson to get one of the starting guard spots. Graham Gibson was a junior OL last year who I believe is being moved over to DL.

So, more to come on the OL once I get it sorted out this spring. I think there's enough talent to put together a very good line, and I'm not even focused on up-and-coming underclassmen.

Hoodleboy80
04-02-2007, 11:07 PM
A strong suit that both Stratford and Fair had last year was their OL's. Both groups were of adequate size and strength and had very good technique. I originally felt both teams lost a lot in this area with graduation, but after reading this thread, neither may have as much reloading to do as my first impression. Stratford's OL protected Luck very well last year and I felt the few times Falls was able to get to him it was more of coverage sacks rather than an OL problem. Same with Fair, even with a back of McGuffie's caliber, a team does not have a 3000+ yard rusher without a great OL.

Too bad the game is occuring at the first of the year. The game may be better if they both were able to get a few games under their belts first. This early in the season, I would say it favors a running offense as the passing game has not had time to work out timing and location of routes yet. But, still the game should be on the area's radar screen as both teams project to the post season at this point in the year.


I couldnt agree more. Stratford's o-line, without any big names, can together very well as a unit and did a great job of protecting Luck last year. Stratfords Offensive Line coach is honestly the best coach I have ever worked with, and he will find the pieces to build another spartan wall.

I also agree that the game may be a little different if it was played later on in the season. Just like last year, CyFair's run game will be more jelled then the Stratford passing game.

78 Spartan
04-03-2007, 12:25 AM
Yeah, I think Cy Fair's running game gives them a big advantage in week zero that would not necessarily translate to, say, week 12 or 13.

First, study the hell out of Pearland's game against Cy Fair to see what they did defensively. Any Oilers want to chime in on how you did it?

Second, we're going to have to score a lot of points to win the game, but we can do that.

Third, the real key is how to force CF to punt a few times. I'd say put nine guys in the box, both safeties within 8 yards of the ball, leave the two corners out there on their own, dare the new QB to check out of called plays and see if he can beat us. Sell out in every way to contain McGuffie in traffic because once he breaks into the secondary it's over anyway. Our DBs are going to be no contest for him in a one-on-one situation in the open field, so might as well bring the safeties up and play them almost like extra linebackers.

Until the Cy Fair QB proves he can make the defense pay, anyway.

KT2000
04-03-2007, 08:08 AM
I'd say put nine guys in the box, both safeties within 8 yards of the ball, leave the two corners out there on their own, dare the new QB to check out of called plays and see if he can beat us. Sell out in every way to contain McGuffie in traffic because once he breaks into the secondary it's over anyway.

Anyone can stack the box, but if you are still getting blocked then he'll be gone as soon as he breaks the second level because there won't be much left if everyone is bunched up within five yards of the LOS. As you know, McGuffie doesn't need much.

The most impressive thing to me about his game is his balance. He runs a lot stronger than people give him credit for because of that. If you are the first man to him, forget about it, you won't tackle him.

In my opinion, Cy Fair didn't have a consistent passing game last season and he still went for 3,000+. McGuffie is going to get his. The key is limiting the big plays somehow, and making him work for it. That's what Pearland did in my opinion.

Also, Pearland had an offense that could eat some clock and shorten the game the game that way. Whether or not Stratford will have that ability without Carlin remains to be seen. You must be able to control the clock when you are up against game breaking players like McGuffie.

78 Spartan
04-03-2007, 08:42 AM
My point on nine in the box is that two deep safeties aren't going to tackle him in the open field anyway. They only have a chance if they are up close challenging him in traffic. As you say, it's going to take two or more defenders converging on him to bring him down.

Yep. Conventional wisdom is that the great runningback should beat the great quarterback because the RB will control time of possession.

That's why it's critical for anyone playing Cy Fair to figure out how to get #2 off the field a few times, especially early. And Stratford will have to put together some long, clock-eating drives to keep its defense rested.

McGuffie's ability to flat wear out a defense, especially on a hot August night, is the thing to worry about. Coach Allen has to figure out how to keep his defense fresh or it turns into a one-man track meet in the second half.

A summer filled with intense conditioning, and lots of hydration that week also.

Drake
04-03-2007, 08:53 AM
I don’t know what CyFair has coming back but if they plan on being as successful as last year they’ll need a total team performance. I saw them 4 times last season and they were far from a one man show:

They had a very good offensive line and they were very successful passing. Sure the passing was set up by the run, but you can’t dismiss or easily replace a QB that’s 81-125 (67%) for 1200 yards and throws only 4 INTs vs. 11 TDs.

Their defense was stellar too. Their safety (#8) hit harder than anyone I saw all year. Their defense (and passing) won the playoff game for them against Lamar, and aside from Cedar Hill, I didn’t see anyone all season come close to containing CyFalls the way CyFair did.

In my opinion, if they fall off in any of those areas then they won’t be as good as they were last year, not because Sam McGuffie isn't Superman, but because CyFair's success last year was a result of quality play in all phases of the game.

KT2000
04-03-2007, 08:59 AM
Cy Fair did have a solid defense last year, but they weren't as good as I thought they'd be against Falls. Falls ran the ball pretty much at will. The secondary did a much better job than the front seven from what I remember. Fair gave up two 90+ yard TD drives in that game. Cy Fair's OL was very good, and I know they have a few experienced guys back. Senior to be Chris Lathrop (big tackle) is one of them.

Cy Fair completely took control of the game against Falls in the third quarter, but they couldn't put the Eagles away when they had the chance. They had a couple of chances to do it, but I think they started to get a little too cute with the gameplan late instead of just handing it to their thoroughbred to close the deal.

It was very similar to Falls' game against Katy in the quarterfinals to me. Katy had a chance to take a 21-7 lead into halftime, but barely missed a deep ball. Of course, the Tigers couldn't punch it in with four tries from the 8 yard line to send it to OT. Fair could have also put two scores between themselves and Falls, but missed that chance and ended up paying for it when Falls marched 94 yards to close the game and hit the 2 pointer.

Hoodleboy80
04-03-2007, 11:58 PM
That's why it's critical for anyone playing Cy Fair to figure out how to get #2 off the field a few times, especially early. And Stratford will have to put together some long, clock-eating drives to keep its defense rested.

McGuffie's ability to flat wear out a defense, especially on a hot August night, is the thing to worry about. Coach Allen has to figure out how to keep his defense fresh or it turns into a one-man track meet in the second half.

A summer filled with intense conditioning, and lots of hydration that week also.

I dont know how easy that is for Stratford. Many of the touchdowns scored by the Stratford O were not very long drives. Against Eisenhower, Stratford's defense had to face about 80 Ike offensive plays. Without an established run game, it will be alot harder for Stratford to keep the clock moving. Incomplete passes, receivers out of bounds, and those types of things may make this game longer then Stratford would want it to be. Especially the fact that the game is in zero week, when Stratford wont have had a chance to really test out the running offense. Is it possible that Luck can read defenses TOO well, and that he can score TOO quickly?

CyFalls#1
04-05-2007, 04:07 PM
Cy Fair did have a solid defense last year, but they weren't as good as I thought they'd be against Falls. Falls ran the ball pretty much at will. The secondary did a much better job than the front seven from what I remember. Fair gave up two 90+ yard TD drives in that game. Cy Fair's OL was very good, and I know they have a few experienced guys back. Senior to be Chris Lathrop (big tackle) is one of them.

Cy Fair completely took control of the game against Falls in the third quarter, but they couldn't put the Eagles away when they had the chance. They had a couple of chances to do it, but I think they started to get a little too cute with the gameplan late instead of just handing it to their thoroughbred to close the deal.

It was very similar to Falls' game against Katy in the quarterfinals to me. Katy had a chance to take a 21-7 lead into halftime, but barely missed a deep ball. Of course, the Tigers couldn't punch it in with four tries from the 8 yard line to send it to OT. Fair could have also put two scores between themselves and Falls, but missed that chance and ended up paying for it when Falls marched 94 yards to close the game and hit the 2 pointer.

Falls had a decided statistical advantage in both games - coming out on top with "Ws". I disagree with your assertion of Fair completely taking control in the 3rd Qtr - Fair scored their final TD from a short field (25 yds) on the 1st play after of a fumble by Falls' running back. Getting "cute" may have been the last drive - with attempting to throw vs feeding McGuffie. I'll grant you that.

The Katy game featured Falls coming up empty from the red zone on two first half possessions. With conversions, the game could have easily been 21-7 Falls at the half - instead of Katy holding a 14-7 lead. Katy's final TD drive was kept alive by a 3rd and 15 pass (in)completion to Dean, who was clearly out of bounds. Falls didn't need help from the zebras to post 493 yards on Katy's defense, nor to average > 425 yds/gm during the playoffs.

Credit should be given where its due - not from "failures" of other teams.

KT2000
04-05-2007, 04:13 PM
So, where in my post does it say Falls doesn't deserve credit? I've been over both games many times since they happened, and given Falls their due. Their experience paid off big time in both games.

78 Spartan
04-05-2007, 06:55 PM
I dont know how easy that is for Stratford. Many of the touchdowns scored by the Stratford O were not very long drives. Against Eisenhower, Stratford's defense had to face about 80 Ike offensive plays. Without an established run game, it will be alot harder for Stratford to keep the clock moving. Incomplete passes, receivers out of bounds, and those types of things may make this game longer then Stratford would want it to be. Especially the fact that the game is in zero week, when Stratford wont have had a chance to really test out the running offense. Is it possible that Luck can read defenses TOO well, and that he can score TOO quickly?


You never know, HB, it could be that Cy Fair is the defense that is more in jeopardy of petering out in a second half on a hot night. It takes a lot of energy to pass rush and to chase receivers all over the field.

I would take the same kind of long drives that we put up against Cy Falls at Reliant. They were some clock eaters and kept the Falls defense on the field and the offense off the field a lot that first half. If we can do that then maybe it's the Cy Fair defense that will be out of gas.

Frankly, though, I would not want to be either defensive coordinator. It could be a real pinball game.

Bobcat81
04-10-2007, 03:46 AM
Had a little free time tonight so i decided to go back and do a little play-by-play (thanks to the TSRN network), and listen to the Cy-fair vs. Cy-Falls game.

Even after all that time, i still feel like i need a little something to quail the tension & hype. That was an amazing game!!

Quite a few "juniors" contributed on the field for Cy-Fair during the game, which is why i wanted to listen again. To get a little insight which juniors had a hand in keeping a close game with a lot of the D-1 players Cy-Falls had in their favor.

On several key short yardage plays, Cy-Falls substituted and sent in some of their high profile defensive players to help their offense power forward on short yardage, and in goal line scoring position which turned out to be a huge advantage for Falls.

Even though it was a loss for the Bobcats, a lot of underclassmen gained a lot of experience in what turned out to be the most important game (IMO), of the regular season schedule.

Micheal Zorn (WR) also returns kickoffs/punts and is quite the sure handed holder for (kicker) Chris Patrick on PAT's. He will undoubtedly be back deep again next year with McGuffie & Michael Elliot (CB) returning kickoffs.

Andrew Hegarty (WR) made some key blocks on DE's, LB's, and WR's that allowed McGuffie room to get outside for good gains.

Gino Collins (WR) made some good blocks downfield and was able to shake the BD's with good speed when thrown to.

(Jr.) Colby Goodwin (TE) contributed quite a bit on offense with good blocks, and had (3) kickoff returns for good yards receiving KO's in the "up" position.

Welsey Cobb (FB) played almost the whole game and did outstanding on short yardage. On some of the game film that i've seen, literally levelled some DE's on several blocks.

Austen Wozniak (DL), Even though he was only 6'0-215 as a junior, the kid played an outstanding game. This kid is one heck of a player and (IMO) will make all district this season.

Chris Lathrop (OL) handled the DL very well, and absolutely gave D-1 Linebacker "Derrick Stephens" fits. IMO Lathrop will be All District this season and quite possibly a D-1 prospect.


These are just a few of my personal views on how well the "Juniors" in a key game, played for Cy-Fair against Cy-Falls.

Bobcat81
04-10-2007, 06:18 PM
An interesting article about recruiting for Andrew Luck & Sam McGuffie.

I didn't know Purdue's Offensive coordinator was the center for Oliver Luck in his H/S days.

http://www.texasfootball.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=&url_article_id=1125&change_well_id=2

Looks like Chris Lathrop (Cy-Fair OL) is getting a stack of mail as well

Bobcat81
04-10-2007, 06:48 PM
Some stats on Andrew Luck

Statistics Att Yds TD PA PC Yds TD Int

2005 (So.) - 700 - 229 116 1,529 7 -

Rushing - Passing
2006 (Jr.) 118 714 10 257 176 2,926 27 6

src - Rivals.com

ktCarl
04-10-2007, 07:59 PM
The Katy game featured Falls coming up empty from the red zone on two first half possessions. With conversions, the game could have easily been 21-7 Falls at the half - instead of Katy holding a 14-7 lead. Katy's final TD drive was kept alive by a 3rd and 15 pass (in)completion to Dean, who was clearly out of bounds. Falls didn't need help from the zebras to post 493 yards on Katy's defense, nor to average > 425 yds/gm during the playoffs.

Credit should be given where its due - not from "failures" of other teams.

I think it was both failures of execution by Katy plus the solid, determined play of Falls' that helped seal the deal at the Regional Final. I don't think the game could have easily been 21-7 Falls in the first half. Wouldn't you consider the reason Falls came up empty in those two possesions was the Katy defense? Fuda dropped a pass where he had beaten a defender and couldn't grab the handle on the ball. Any way, it doesn't really matter. It was still a good game.

CyFallsMom
04-10-2007, 11:30 PM
It was still a good game.

I think it was one of our top 2 of the year and probably a pretty hard fought one for Katy as well. I don't think they had seen that level of competition (or determination) throughout the playoffs up to that point. We had already seen Cy Fair which, IMO, was a tougher team to beat (but then, I wasn't on the field - just going by what I was seeing:) . The Katy crowd seemed a little more subdued that day and not every seat was filled either. I had sat on Katy's side at two playoff games - they fill EVERY seat usually...and I saw the fans alone intimidate the other teams:p .

I'm taking that DVD (Eagle Power) to New York this summer to share the highlights of that game of which, if I could, I would build a time machine with Uncle Rico and go back to that day over and over again (Dada will understand that last comment:rolleyes: ).

ktCarl
04-11-2007, 07:49 AM
(Dada will understand that last comment:rolleyes: ).

B-T-W, where is dada these days? :confused:

CyFallsMom
04-11-2007, 10:44 AM
I know - he's just disappeared! He doesn't owe the Mob money does he;). I miss his crazy wit...COME BACK DADA!!

78 Spartan
04-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Good intensity out there today. The defense is way ahead of the offense at this stage, as you would expect. DE Terrence Lloyd is a junior-to-be who is going to make a real splash this fall. About 6'3", 215 or 220 and very lean and athletic looking.

A good battle going on for RB betweeen Tim Graves and Jarvis Helaire, both juniors-to-be.

Looks like five seniors on the OL: (left to right) Brian Hines, Will Swenson, Myles Flannigan, Jonathan O'Neal, Brett Neal. O'Neal looks tremendous.

spartan16
04-21-2007, 02:04 PM
Jarvis Helaire is a Senior to be not a junior

panamamyers
04-21-2007, 06:27 PM
Who is the receiver that has moved to Stratford? Is he big? fast? What's the scoop?

Also, spartan16, it's "if if's and but's were candy and nuts"

Bobcat81
04-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Good intensity out there today. The defense is way ahead of the offense at this stage, as you would expect. DE Terrence Lloyd is a junior-to-be who is going to make a real splash this fall. About 6'3", 215 or 220 and very lean and athletic looking.

A good battle going on for RB betweeen Tim Graves and Jarvis Helaire, both juniors-to-be.

Looks like five seniors on the OL: (left to right) Brian Hines, Will Swenson, Myles Flannigan, Jonathan O'Neal, Brett Neal. O'Neal looks tremendous.

Sounds as though things are coming together nicely for the Spartan's..

Did they already have their spring game?

I've been asking around and as far as in can figure, Cy-Fair will have theirs on the 11th of May (friday evening), but don't hold me to that. I haven't seen an official notification of the date & time yet. I presume the game will be held in the old stadium on campus, but i will find out for sure and post something more when i know for sure.

mcmullen82
04-22-2007, 10:24 AM
Who is the receiver that has moved to Stratford? Is he big? fast? What's the scoop?

Also, spartan16, it's "if if's and but's were candy and nuts"

Theres a couple new recievers on the tema. Lewis Njenga (Probly spelled wrong) and Josh White. Louis is incredibly fast and has great hands. Josh played at Stratford our freshman year and came back this year with the same intensity he left with. Both are weightroom workhorses.

mcmullen82
04-22-2007, 10:25 AM
Sounds as though things are coming together nicely for the Spartan's..

Did they already have their spring game?

I've been asking around and as far as in can figure, Cy-Fair will have theirs on the 11th of May (friday evening), but don't hold me to that. I haven't seen an official notification of the date & time yet. I presume the game will be held in the old stadium on campus, but i will find out for sure and post something more when i know for sure.

Our spring game isnt until Thursday May 17. We just started spring ball and had our first 2 practices friday and yesterday morning.

Hoodleboy80
04-23-2007, 06:40 PM
Terrence is currently a sophmore, and will be a junior in the fall, as correctly stated by 78 spartan

78 Spartan
04-23-2007, 07:40 PM
Terrence is currently a sophmore, and will be a junior in the fall, as correctly stated by 78 spartan

I can't tell you how impressive a kid he is. His body looks like Javon Kearse at age 16. He makes plays. And he is only going to get bigger, faster, and better.

Luck and Burge are already D1 scholarship locks, I think Jonathan O'Neal is going to join them and Terrence Lloyd has enormous potential.

spartan16
04-23-2007, 07:59 PM
Lloyd's first time to play football was earlier this year. He was in a PE class and our D-Line coach yanked him out of that and into Football. He's a great kid, positive and soft spoken. He's gonna be a force to be reckoned with

Bobcat81
05-30-2007, 03:34 AM
It's official. Summer is here, school is out, and the last of the "Seniors" have received their diplomas, so what better time to welcome those remaining up to "varsity".

Aside from the 17 lettermen returning from an outstanding state "Quarterfinalist" team, the The cats have been visibly blessed with quite a large selection pool in what was then a combined head count of 118+ on the JV squad.

With that high of a head count, some may have to wear duplicate numbers if they're going to have the honor of running through the Bobcat banner this coming fall. From their combined A & B squad record of 14 - 4, I'd say there will be a lot of spare athleticism on the sidelines in reserve to support the 22 starters of which a majority of positions are already filled.

With last years starters of Cobb (5-9, 190+) & McGuffie (6-0, 190) in the backield, things are going to roll on the ground with the offense. Since the Bobcats only need to apply an arial assault to keep defenses guessing, QB Gavin West (6-1, 180) should be able to connect with marginal accuracy to a very skilled and talented set of receivers in Michael Zorn (5-8, 170), Gino Collins (5-11, 180), Andrew Hegarty (6-0, 180), and TE Colby Goodwin (6-3, 205), all of whom saw a slew of playing time on varsity last year.

WR- M. Zorn was also the Cat's punt returner and will be very effective in that roll again this fall.

From a "PAG" scoring average of only (12.5 ppg ) against the JV defenses last season, they should provide a heafty amount containment moving up to support the (5) returning lettermen from what was a swarming smashmouth defensive squad.

Keep the thread alive Spartan. Let's see how we compare after meeting the turf at Tully. ;)

dada
05-31-2007, 12:13 PM
I think it was one of our top 2 of the year and probably a pretty hard fought one for Katy as well. I don't think they had seen that level of competition (or determination) throughout the playoffs up to that point. We had already seen Cy Fair which, IMO, was a tougher team to beat (but then, I wasn't on the field - just going by what I was seeing:) . The Katy crowd seemed a little more subdued that day and not every seat was filled either. I had sat on Katy's side at two playoff games - they fill EVERY seat usually...and I saw the fans alone intimidate the other teams:p .

I'm taking that DVD (Eagle Power) to New York this summer to share the highlights of that game of which, if I could, I would build a time machine with Uncle Rico and go back to that day over and over again (Dada will understand that last comment:rolleyes: ).

I'm a few months late, but I understand completely..lol

Bobcat81
06-01-2007, 01:33 AM
I'd like to take a little space here in congratulating Senior to be - "Chris Lathrop" (OG) 6'-4" 275 lbs. in giving his verbal to Texas A&M!

Redhoss
06-01-2007, 03:59 PM
Glad he stayed in Texas :)

Bobcat81
06-02-2007, 01:07 AM
Glad he stayed in Texas :)

Whooop!!!

CyFallsMom
06-02-2007, 02:08 AM
Before we talk about the Cy Fair Bobcats football team - they still have a little business to take care of up in Round Rock on the baseball side of things!!! Congratulations Bobcats - 2007 Region III champs - now go WIN STATE!!!