The worst city in Texas?

[jakerz]

Who you got?

I think I'll nominate....


El Paso. There's nothing there, it's big but it's also...not big. Hot as hell, plus it's almost not part of Texas. Not part of Texas=sux

[jtk1519]

I know some of my mojo buddies will be all over me for this, but the worst is Odessa. If the state of Texas ever had to take a dump, Odessa would be the anus from which said dump would emerge.

[toddg]

traffic wise..its houston
bulls*** wise..its dallas
so its a tie for the, dr. j in a headlock, armpit.

[toddg]

I know some of my mojo buddies will be all over me for this, but the worst is Odessa. If the state of Texas ever had to take a dump, Odessa would be the anus from which said dump would emerge.

dude..not cool..you do have a point, but not cool..

[slorch]

Although I think Dallas and Laura Miller give it a run for 1st place, i nominate Lubbock, mainly for the ineptitude of its city government alone.
This town constently runs off opportunities for large employers to locate in lubbock such as the walmart distribution center in Plainview.

They are building a multimillion dollar feeway through a town that has 10 minutes of traffic a day, and even that does not even remotely resemble Houston/ Dallas/ austin. With Loop 289, one can get pretty much anywhere in Lubbock in 25 minutes or less. Sound good to any of you folks from Houston or Dallas? Instead lets build a freeway that nobody needs...and name it after a lesbian in one of the most conservative cities in America... makes sense to me.

The water sucks!

No lakes within an hour drive, don't even say the "waterhole with 3 eyed fish from farm runoff Buffalo Springs Lake" either!

Wind about 300 days a year, sandblasting on about 50 of those.

If Tech and my relatives left Lubbock, I would NEVER have a desire to return.

There are not near as many quality football games to pick from each week...:(

No trees taller than a tumbleweed once you get out of the residential areas...

No alcohol sales in city limits( like this really slows down consumption of booze, all it does is feed the litttle monopoly known as the Strip")

[Firebird]

1. Austin....lovely city, lovely lanscape, but UT and State Congress together= 2 strikes and Austin is out.

2. Pretty much anything east of I-45 save Tyler.

3. The Metroplex: "I ain't from Dallas, I'm from Texas"...truer words have never been sung.

[jakerz]

1. Austin....lovely city, lovely lanscape, but UT and State Congress together= 2 strikes and Austin is out.

2. Pretty much anything east of I-45 save Tyler.

3. The Metroplex: "I ain't from Dallas, I'm from Texas"...truer words have never been sung.

Omg. No more smack talk right?



Please...come on bro... Austin is 10 times better than College Station and Bryan and day of the year.

[KT2000]

Amarillo for me. Just because of the smell. It's like being in SW Louisiana in that regard.

[RocklandDragon]

Although I think Dallas and Laura Miller give it a run for 1st place, i nominate Lubbock, mainly for the ineptitude of its city government alone.
This town constently runs off opportunities for large employers to locate in lubbock such as the walmart distribution center in Plainview.

They are building a multimillion dollar feeway through a town that has 10 minutes of traffic a day, and even that does not even remotely resemble Houston/ Dallas/ austin. With Loop 289, one can get pretty much anywhere in Lubbock in 25 minutes or less. Sound good to any of you folks from Houston or Dallas? Instead lets build a freeway that nobody needs...and name it after a lesbian in one of the most conservative cities in America... makes sense to me.

The water sucks!

No lakes within an hour drive, don't even say the "waterhole with 3 eyed fish from farm runoff Buffalo Springs Lake" either!

Wind about 300 days a year, sandblasting on about 50 of those.

If Tech and my relatives left Lubbock, I would NEVER have a desire to return.

There are not near as many quality football games to pick from each week...:(

No trees taller than a tumbleweed once you get out of the residential areas...

No alcohol sales in city limits( like this really slows down consumption of booze, all it does is feed the litttle monopoly known as the Strip")

Gee...what a shock.

:rolleyes:

But, I will concur about the city government. Too bad I can't change the government overnight. Hell, I don't vote for them. If there was a change in the thinking on how Lubbock is run (i.e. allow alcohol, pull the industrial areas out of the Canyon lakes area and make it a nice residential area, take a risk to get high-tech jobs out here--tax breaks and incentives, close the damn feedlot on Slaton Hwy), then it wouldn't be bad. Hell, Vegas is in the damn desert but has stuff to do. It's not known for it's natural scenery. The landscape around Lubbock isn't that terrible. The windy days are an inconvenience but a few wild windy days are better than consistent humidity and 90+ heat.

Why you gotta hate on Marsha Sharp?

[jtk1519]

Hell, Vegas is in the damn desert but has stuff to do. It's not known for it's natural scenery.

The mountains around Vegas are beautiful and Lake Mead is one of the most scenic places in America.

[slorch]

Gee...what a shock.

:rolleyes:

But, I will concur about the city government. Too bad I can't change the government overnight. Hell, I don't vote for them. If there was a change in the thinking on how Lubbock is run (i.e. allow alcohol, pull the industrial areas out of the Canyon lakes area and make it a nice residential area, take a risk to get high-tech jobs out here--tax breaks and incentives, close the damn feedlot on Slaton Hwy), then it wouldn't be bad. Hell, Vegas is in the damn desert but has stuff to do. It's not known for it's natural scenery. The landscape around Lubbock isn't that terrible. The windy days are an inconvenience but a few wild windy days are better than consistent humidity and 90+ heat.

Why you gotta hate on Marsha Sharp?



Keep in mind I lived there, so I have the right to say these things. At least you see the substance behind my resons.

i didn't hate on marsha, I just pointed out the hypocrisy of naming the biggest thing in Lubbock after something the city supposedly dislikes...

[RocklandDragon]

The mountains around Vegas are beautiful and Lake Mead is one of the most scenic places in America.

Point taken.

:cool:

[RocklandDragon]

Keep in mind I lived there, so I have the right to say these things. At least you see the substance behind my resons.

i didn't hate on marsha, I just pointed out the hypocrisy of naming the biggest thing in Lubbock after something the city supposedly dislikes...

You did live there. I live here now and Lubbock is not as ****** as you make it. It is not a total wasteland. The government seems to try to make it that way. But it's not. The changes in Lubbock won't occur overnight, but it can be a good city. When the city of Lubbock decides to use Tech to their advantage (yes, they still haven't done that) then we can keep the population here and get some changes done.

The majority of citizens may not like the lifestyle of Marsha Sharp (although officially she hasn't come out--at least I don't think so), but too bad. Her program got Tech national recognition (the United Spirit Arena was built on the Women's program, not the men) and I'm glad she got honored for that. Believe me, there were MANY that did not like the idea that the Freeway was named after Sharp. I guess not everything can be to their liking. Not even in Lubbock.

[RocklandDragon]

I'm not gonna bash on any city, mainly because it's a cliche term "to each his own".

Hell, every city got its bad points.

Oh, well. I'll get to see more of these good/bad cities during the fall.

Wating for Kickoff 2007.

:D

[jtk1519]

jtk is pretty sure Waco sucks, but he blames wide for that.

[twcpfan1]

That's a tie between Houston and the Metroplex. Merely because cities that size do not normally have a lot of positives.

[jakerz]

jtk is pretty sure Waco sucks, but he blames wide for that.

Waco is awesome!



We have...uhhh....ummm....Baylor?

[TXhsfbfan]

My vote would be Wichita Falls.

[DiamondJ2]

Suburb of Dallas--Oklahoma.

[HUM398]

San Benito....

bwhahahaha

[stevefoxsc]

The 3 worse for sure all have 1 thing in common, and thats stupid driviers...

Waco... Every time some new murder pops up they test new technology out there infact several of the latest forensics since 80's have been tested out there and has changed capturing criminals, not to mention if it's that time of day when moms picking up the kids get off the road! Just cause your in a suv doesn't mean you run me over as please so stop crying when i drop my beverage on you're windshield.

Another lovely town has to be Bryan college station, morons can't drive for crap there they feel the need to pass everyone in front of of them (pst when i drive i average 85-90 on predominate empty highway roads) and the best part is watching them try to pass you even when common since shows trucks or cars will never beat a motorcycle... Aside from driving those people act like they never seen someone of half African descendant look "not gangster" i aint your n.i to the double g.a nor can i bust a flow and drop a beat for you boxing isn't my 2nd nature nor do i have a 9 gat or heart though if i did you'd be my next head shot out side of counter strike.

Another horrid town I've had the uncanny luxury of driving through is Abilene that place would be the type of town no one would really care about if it got destroyed or fell into the ocean, and whats up with these people around here the first time i went through i was with my mother around the time "the fast and the furious" came out next thing i know everyone thinks they're a street racer around this place even the kiddies in that old rusted 80 army tank. The next time i went was when i had my own car and yes ironically 2 fast 2 furious came out, and it seems every ****** there was reeving there engine at me like they wanted a race first year i had my license so i ain't losing it that fast. and the 5th time i went through was on my own again got my crotch rocket and go figure Tokyo drift had came out about some month ago, and i'm driving through and had to get food and beverage and yeah... Some ****** failed drifted into an accident. Lets just say on a side note this town is infatuated with the imports, car modifications, and the fast and the furious trilogy. Vin diesel would be the god of this town and would have his selection of every women of his choosing men would attend to his needs with the snap of a finger, and I'm sure after every high school game they gather together and play need for speed!

Houston like someone said just the traffic and over excessive rain and maybe crime.

Dallas kill the crime and the constant construction.

San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Austin fix your traffic.

Temple learn how to construct...

Belton Ramonce isn't a celebrity.

Killeen and Copperas cove, you're like a mix of Waco and Abilene combine.

and there go my choices.

[ktCarl]

WOW! You start putting all the cities you don't like in Texas together and pretty soon Texas isn't as great a place as everyone says it is. I didn't like the Port Arthur area but I had to live and work there four days out of the week in 1999 which forced me to be away from my family. That sucked and clouded my perspective. Thank God for H.S. football and BBQ!!

[elprezidente]

San Benito....

bwhahahaha

:eek: :eek:
HOW DARE YOU!!!! the city that brought you freddy fender AND el prezidente??:D

i would talk smack about humble......but i think lufkin does that for me :p

EAT IT!

[Reaganrattler07]

San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either.

[lonny23]

You guys know I could throw a whole laundry list of towns out here that I don't think much of, but I will say that Texas towns relatively speaking blow most other towns away. Of the many armpits in Texas, the one I like least is Jasper. Whoever said east of I-45 was on the right track, but it's mostly east of I-35 for me. There are a few places in that corridor I like though.

[jakerz]

Belton Ramonce isn't a celebrity.



So so so so so so so so true.

[Firebird]

The 3 worse for sure all have 1 thing in common, and thats stupid driviers...

Waco... Every time some new murder pops up they test new technology out there infact several of the latest forensics since 80's have been tested out there and has changed capturing criminals, not to mention if it's that time of day when moms picking up the kids get off the road! Just cause your in a suv doesn't mean you run me over as please so stop crying when i drop my beverage on you're windshield.

Another lovely town has to be Bryan college station, morons can't drive for crap there they feel the need to pass everyone in front of of them (pst when i drive i average 85-90 on predominate empty highway roads) and the best part is watching them try to pass you even when common since shows trucks or cars will never beat a motorcycle... Aside from driving those people act like they never seen someone of half African descendant look "not gangster" i aint your n.i to the double g.a nor can i bust a flow and drop a beat for you boxing isn't my 2nd nature nor do i have a 9 gat or heart though if i did you'd be my next head shot out side of counter strike.

Another horrid town I've had the uncanny luxury of driving through is Abilene that place would be the type of town no one would really care about if it got destroyed or fell into the ocean, and whats up with these people around here the first time i went through i was with my mother around the time "the fast and the furious" came out next thing i know everyone thinks they're a street racer around this place even the kiddies in that old rusted 80 army tank. The next time i went was when i had my own car and yes ironically 2 fast 2 furious came out, and it seems every ****** there was reeving there engine at me like they wanted a race first year i had my license so i ain't losing it that fast. and the 5th time i went through was on my own again got my crotch rocket and go figure Tokyo drift had came out about some month ago, and i'm driving through and had to get food and beverage and yeah... Some ****** failed drifted into an accident. Lets just say on a side note this town is infatuated with the imports, car modifications, and the fast and the furious trilogy. Vin diesel would be the god of this town and would have his selection of every women of his choosing men would attend to his needs with the snap of a finger, and I'm sure after every high school game they gather together and play need for speed!

Houston like someone said just the traffic and over excessive rain and maybe crime.

Dallas kill the crime and the constant construction.

San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Austin fix your traffic.
Temple learn how to construct...

Belton Ramonce isn't a celebrity.

Killeen and Copperas cove, you're like a mix of Waco and Abilene combine.

and there go my choices.

Stevefox fix your punctuation and spelling....jeez its like trying to wade through James Joyce or some postmodern poet just to read your posts, only at the end you're just rambling about your motorcycle.

[Firebird]

Omg. No more smack talk right?



Please...come on bro... Austin is 10 times better than College Station and Bryan and day of the year.


It would be, save for the trained monkeys in the capitol building and the dirty hippies on Guadalupe Street.

[Favpack]

Well, let's see, how about San Antonio - that's seems to be the only city in Texas not sucking right now.

[AE 8008]

The 3 worse for sure all have 1 thing in common, and thats stupid driviers...

Waco... Every time some new murder pops up they test new technology out there infact several of the latest forensics since 80's have been tested out there and has changed capturing criminals, not to mention if it's that time of day when moms picking up the kids get off the road! Just cause your in a suv doesn't mean you run me over as please so stop crying when i drop my beverage on you're windshield.

Another lovely town has to be Bryan college station, morons can't drive for crap there they feel the need to pass everyone in front of of them (pst when i drive i average 85-90 on predominate empty highway roads) and the best part is watching them try to pass you even when common since shows trucks or cars will never beat a motorcycle... Aside from driving those people act like they never seen someone of half African descendant look "not gangster" i aint your n.i to the double g.a nor can i bust a flow and drop a beat for you boxing isn't my 2nd nature nor do i have a 9 gat or heart though if i did you'd be my next head shot out side of counter strike.

Another horrid town I've had the uncanny luxury of driving through is Abilene that place would be the type of town no one would really care about if it got destroyed or fell into the ocean, and whats up with these people around here the first time i went through i was with my mother around the time "the fast and the furious" came out next thing i know everyone thinks they're a street racer around this place even the kiddies in that old rusted 80 army tank. The next time i went was when i had my own car and yes ironically 2 fast 2 furious came out, and it seems every ****** there was reeving there engine at me like they wanted a race first year i had my license so i ain't losing it that fast. and the 5th time i went through was on my own again got my crotch rocket and go figure Tokyo drift had came out about some month ago, and i'm driving through and had to get food and beverage and yeah... Some ****** failed drifted into an accident. Lets just say on a side note this town is infatuated with the imports, car modifications, and the fast and the furious trilogy. Vin diesel would be the god of this town and would have his selection of every women of his choosing men would attend to his needs with the snap of a finger, and I'm sure after every high school game they gather together and play need for speed!

Houston like someone said just the traffic and over excessive rain and maybe crime.

Dallas kill the crime and the constant construction.

San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Austin fix your traffic.

Temple learn how to construct...

Belton Ramonce isn't a celebrity.

Killeen and Copperas cove, you're like a mix of Waco and Abilene combine.

and there go my choices.



haha
abilene is not loaded with bad drivers, its probably the high school crowd you ran into. sure i see many high school kids speeding and doing crazy things. its not very often you see a wreck though, and if you do, its even rarer for it not to involve a high schooler. its not like the 50 year old janitors and school teachers are street racing. the worst drivers are in the big cities, always cutting you off.

[lonny23]

Well, let's see, how about San Antonio - that's seems to be the only city in Texas not sucking right now.
San Antonio has a permanent spot on the list. I just didn't feel like blasting the state. Boy do I have a laundry list of towns to add to the equation!:D

[Firebird]

I think Lonny keeps excel spreadsheets for towns he hates, teams he likes, etc. His hatred of San Antonio is pretty irrational. I can't figure it out.

[lonny23]

I think Lonny keeps excel spreadsheets for towns he hates, teams he likes, etc. His hatred of San Antonio is pretty irrational. I can't figure it out.
It's actually pretty rational, but I really don't want to get into what I don't like about various towns.

[jtk1519]

jtk lived in San Antonio last Summer and really liked it. It's a horribly underrated city in his opinion. The only thing he hated is that his daily commute took him up and down I-10 and the construction South of 410 made it a nightmare. jtk also found the area around 281 and 410 to suck a lot because of the construction. Like any other city, San Antonio has it's bad spots and like any other city, if you have any common sense at all you will stay away from them, but San Antonio had a cultural identity that no other major city in Texas has. If you don't like Hispanics or Spanish/Mexican culture, you will despise San Antonio, but if you can appreciate that culture, San Antonio will give you something you wont find in another major Texas city (no, jtk does not consider El Paso to be "major").

jtk also found San Antonio's natural beauty to be vastly underrated. No major Texas city outside of Austin can boast the pure natural beauty of San Antonio. jtk helped his friends move to an area in the North central part of town near 1604 and Bitters and he found that area to be very lovely. Very clean and very nice without the price tag of Highland Park or Southlake and a physical beauty that neither one of those two towns can even dream of.

jtk can understand disliking parts of the city or a suburb or something, but jtk would really like to hear an explanation as to why anybody would hate on the city as a whole. Having only experienced the touristy places growing up and then living in the city for a while and experiencing the whole place first had, jtk came away very impressed.

BTW, Abilene drivers are okay until any form of precipitation his the ground. Then it's Thunderdome.

[Firebird]

jtk lived in San Antonio last Summer and really liked it. It's a horribly underrated city in his opinion. The only thing he hated is that his daily commute took him up and down I-10 and the construction South of 410 made it a nightmare. jtk also found the area around 281 and 410 to suck a lot because of the construction. Like any other city, San Antonio has it's bad spots and like any other city, if you have any common sense at all you will stay away from them, but San Antonio had a cultural identity that no other major city in Texas has. If you don't like Hispanics or Spanish/Mexican culture, you will despise San Antonio, but if you can appreciate that culture, San Antonio will give you something you wont find in another major Texas city (no, jtk does not consider El Paso to be "major").

jtk also found San Antonio's natural beauty to be vastly underrated. No major Texas city outside of Austin can boast the pure natural beauty of San Antonio. jtk helped his friends move to an area in the North central part of town near 1604 and Bitters and he found that area to be very lovely. Very clean and very nice without the price tag of Highland Park or Southlake and a physical beauty that neither one of those two towns can even dream of.

jtk can understand disliking parts of the city or a suburb or something, but jtk would really like to hear an explanation as to why anybody would hate on the city as a whole. Having only experienced the touristy places growing up and then living in the city for a while and experiencing the whole place first had, jtk came away very impressed.

BTW, Abilene drivers are okay until any form of precipitation his the ground. Then it's Thunderdome.

Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner, jtk. Well, I guess you might hate SA if you are consumed by Spurs hatred, but aside from that....

San Antonio, when you get right down to it, is an awesome city. Very few places have the identity that San An does, and certainly none in Texas can trace their roots back to 18th century Canary Islanders and Spanish Conquistadores. Downtown SA is one of the few Texas cities you can walk in, and is full of all sorts of architectural treasures. The missions are a national historical treasure. The opening of the new Toyota plant has injected a huge shot into an already pretty good economy. You can fine fine dining, great central-Texas German BBQ, and superior Tex-Mex all in one place. Several pretty good universities, and one outstanding one (Trinity). The best HS football district in Texas. Seriously, what's not to like? Vibrant churches and houses of worship of all stripes. Even the "bad" parts of town are no worse than the "bad" parts of Dallas, Houston, Austin.

Every foreign visitor I have shown around Texas (and that's a few) have come away liking SA better than anywhere else they went.

[sldragondad]

Brownsville.

Home to the worst high school team in the history of Texas Football.
Gladys Porter High. Named after a lady who started a Zoo.
Spanish is the primary language. Which is OK if it's a foreign country.
Corruption is rampant. Health care sux and pollution is out of control.
There, that should get the bees buzzing.

[stevefoxsc]

Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either.

yeah buddy get out and look and i bet you anything you'll find a few... And a lot of how people talk back to you depends on many vairibles skin color dress language etc.

[jtk1519]

Ah, yes. jtk found the city of San Antonio to be wrapped up in everything "Spurs". jtk is not really a Spurs fan (he's a huge Mavericks fan), but he liked the passionate following he saw in San Antonio. Those people love their Spurs and that is a good thing. jtk can see why the players like giving back to the city. jtk also thinks that is a reason why San Antonio could easily support an NFL team, but that is another thread all together.

BTW, jtk looooooves Mexican/TexMex food and while in San Antonio, jtk was in freaking Heaven. He put on a good 20 pounds while there despite running around Madison Square Park every day. Damn good food.

[Reaganrattler07]

For once I think I may actually like what jtk had to say.

[stevefoxsc]

Stevefox fix your punctuation and spelling....jeez its like trying to wade through James Joyce or some postmodern poet just to read your posts, only at the end you're just rambling about your motorcycle.

i've stated several occasions that my english nor grammar is set in stone to be perfect, you love lecturing me on how to punctuate then ramble on how you always at least make an effort to check your post.

This is coming from a guy who spells "Chinese" chinse.

[stevefoxsc]

You guys know I could throw a whole laundry list of towns out here that I don't think much of, but I will say that Texas towns relatively speaking blow most other towns away. Of the many armpits in Texas, the one I like least is Jasper. Whoever said east of I-45 was on the right track, but it's mostly east of I-35 for me. There are a few places in that corridor I like though.

jasper... stopped there after vacationing in Louisiana when i was younger with my grandparents yeah thats a place i'd never visit as long as i love.

[Firebird]

Brownsville.

Home to the worst high school team in the history of Texas Football.
Gladys Porter High. Named after a lady who started a Zoo.
Spanish is the primary language. Which is OK if it's a foreign country.
Corruption is rampant. Health care sux and pollution is out of control.
There, that should get the bees buzzing.

Someone from the metroplex talking about RGV pollution an corruption...there is a riot..

Specks and planks........

Oh well, we can't all hide out in lily-white enclaves.

[Firebird]

i've stated several occasions that my english nor grammar is set in stone to be perfect, you love lecturing me on how to punctuate then ramble on how you always at least make an effort to check your post.

This is coming from a guy who spells "Chinese" chinse.

At least make an effort, dude. Like I said, it's like you are channeling ee cummings.

[t-long20]

for me the worst would have to be del rio besides its being 3 hourse away from san antonio its in the middle of no where and you'll sometimes get stopped by border patrol coming out of the city

[mtbray]

It would be, save for the trained monkeys in the capitol building and the dirty hippies on Guadalupe Street.

there arent dirty hipped on guadalupe. there are however a lot drag rats as we call them. basically just homeless troublemakers they are

[t-long20]

Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either.

the same thing i was saying

[jtk1519]

for me the worst would have to be del rio besides its being 3 hourse away from san antonio its in the middle of no where and you'll sometimes get stopped by border patrol coming out of the city

Yeah, but Del Rio does have Lake Amistad... some of the best bass fishing in Texas if not the country.

[Mojobro]

I used to do a lot of work down in Del Rio at Laughlin AFB. It wasn't my favorite place, but it wasn't terrible. Amistad has some pretty water. Hell, try living in LOWSIANA. I'd take any town in Texas over this place!

[stevefoxsc]

At least make an effort, dude. Like I said, it's like you are channeling ee cummings.

just discover the internet? There are other sites and forums beside 5atexasfootball.com have a field day lecturing others on the etiquette of proper english

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

for me the worst would have to be del rio besides its being 3 hourse away from san antonio its in the middle of no where and you'll sometimes get stopped by border patrol coming out of the city

They got some fine Latino women in Del Rio.:D

[t-long20]

They got some fine Latino women in Del Rio.:D

well they must've been hiding while i was down there:p

[toddg]

well they must've been hiding while i was down there:p

yeah, they were all hiding in boys town across the river.:eek:

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

well they must've been hiding while i was down there:p

You make a valid point. I was down there for like 4 days last year, and for the first 2 days, all of the women I saw looked like booger-mooses. But, on the last 2 days, dimepieces started coming out of the woodworks.

[Mac Is Back]

Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either.

Likewise.

Although, I watched the 10 o'clock news recently and for the first time in quite a while no west/south side shooting victim's families required a translator to talk about how peaceful their boy was.

[t-long20]

You make a valid point. I was down there for like 4 days last year, and for the first 2 days, all of the women I saw looked like booger-mooses. But, on the last 2 days, dimepieces started coming out of the woodworks.

note to self: when going to del rio stay there for atleast 4 days:)

[jtk1519]

You make a valid point. I was down there for like 4 days last year, and for the first 2 days, all of the women I saw looked like booger-mooses. But, on the last 2 days, dimepieces started coming out of the woodworks.

Translation: On the first two days, Matthew was sober. On the last two, he was not.

[elprezidente]

Brownsville.

Home to the worst high school team in the history of Texas Football.
Gladys Porter High. Named after a lady who started a Zoo.
Spanish is the primary language. Which is OK if it's a foreign country.
Corruption is rampant. Health care sux and pollution is out of control.
There, that should get the bees buzzing.

all true.

browntown is not a city to represent the valley.

tee hee guess who is going to college there(if your guess was me then you are correct)

but UTB has a GREAT campus. i liked it better then HU, UTSA.

[HUM398]

all true.

browntown is not a city to represent the valley.

tee hee guess who is going to college there(if your guess was me then you are correct)

but UTB has a GREAT campus. i liked it better then HU, UTSA.


Shut up benito man...

[stevefoxsc]

all true.

browntown is not a city to represent the valley.

tee hee guess who is going to college there(if your guess was me then you are correct)

but UTB has a GREAT campus. i liked it better then HU, UTSA.

is it true after financial aid checks are mailed half the students drop out?

[Redhoss]

I know some of my mojo buddies will be all over me for this, but the worst is Odessa. If the state of Texas ever had to take a dump, Odessa would be the anus from which said dump would emerge.

Well if by that you are talking about the landscape, there isn't any argument it is lousy. It's worse now than years back due to the town being quite poor in many parts.

Now if we're talking the makeup of the people, I disagree. In West Texas, you will find some of the friendliest people in the world.
When I grew up there, we didn't lock our doors if we left the house. People didn't steal from you. And they would help anyone in need, still do that and literally would give you the shirt off their back.
So depending on your measuring stick, you may not be on target.

My vote would be Laredo. Almost everyone speaks Spanish, not because they are native to the language. It's just the language used and that upsets me because it should be English in America.
It's also hotter than hades there in the summer.

[elprezidente]

Shut up benito man...

look here stoops, if i want lip from you ill pick it off my zipper.

[elprezidente]

is it true after financial aid checks are mailed half the students drop out?

i dont wanna say half but yea it happens.

also one person will buy a book, make copies, and sell it other ppl for cheap.

gotta love it.

but the campus is still great.

[jtk1519]

Well if by that you are talking about the landscape, there isn't any argument it is lousy. It's worse now than years back due to the town being quite poor in many parts.

Now if we're talking the makeup of the people, I disagree. In West Texas, you will find some of the friendliest people in the world.
When I grew up there, we didn't lock our doors if we left the house. People didn't steal from you. And they would help anyone in need, still do that and literally would give you the shirt off their back.
So depending on your measuring stick, you may not be on target.

My vote would be Laredo. Almost everyone speaks Spanish, not because they are native to the language. It's just the language used and that upsets me because it should be English in America.
It's also hotter than hades there in the summer.

West Texas is indeed full of some of the best and proudest people Texas has to offer. jtk's inclusion of Odessa in this conversation was in no way meant to be a commentary on it's people. Except Permian people... they suck. :D

[wide-e-wide]

Well into the second page and no one has mentioned Vidor?
Are y'all really from Texas or what? This is pretty much a given.

[wide-e-wide]

My vote would be Laredo. Almost everyone speaks Spanish, not because they are native to the language. It's just the language used and that upsets me because it should be English in America.
It's also hotter than hades there in the summer.

As opposed to the blizzard-like conditions you will encounter in other parts of the state.:D

[lonny23]

jtk lived in San Antonio last Summer and really liked it. It's a horribly underrated city in his opinion. The only thing he hated is that his daily commute took him up and down I-10 and the construction South of 410 made it a nightmare. jtk also found the area around 281 and 410 to suck a lot because of the construction. Like any other city, San Antonio has it's bad spots and like any other city, if you have any common sense at all you will stay away from them, but San Antonio had a cultural identity that no other major city in Texas has. If you don't like Hispanics or Spanish/Mexican culture, you will despise San Antonio, but if you can appreciate that culture, San Antonio will give you something you wont find in another major Texas city (no, jtk does not consider El Paso to be "major").

jtk also found San Antonio's natural beauty to be vastly underrated. No major Texas city outside of Austin can boast the pure natural beauty of San Antonio. jtk helped his friends move to an area in the North central part of town near 1604 and Bitters and he found that area to be very lovely. Very clean and very nice without the price tag of Highland Park or Southlake and a physical beauty that neither one of those two towns can even dream of.

jtk can understand disliking parts of the city or a suburb or something, but jtk would really like to hear an explanation as to why anybody would hate on the city as a whole. Having only experienced the touristy places growing up and then living in the city for a while and experiencing the whole place first had, jtk came away very impressed.

BTW, Abilene drivers are okay until any form of precipitation his the ground. Then it's Thunderdome.
OK, I'll oblige. There are some very good people in San Antonio. I'd have to say that most people in San Antonio are better than the majority from other states. As such, none of the major cities in Texas rate very well in my books compared to the smaller places when it comes to the people. I'm perfectly fine with the Hispanic culture and the city is beautiful in areas. I love the cost of living. I absolutely despise the paper, TV, and radio coverage. I just think it's a loser city as the sole supporter of the metro area. Dallas has their problems, but there are plenty of other cities to make the metroplex go around. SA is too centered around certain companies keeping a monopoly. I really think they suffer from an inferiority complex compared to the other 2 big metro areas in Texas. Naturally, I'm not going to like the city that is the main rival for the sports teams that I like. I'd hate Austin and Bryan-College Station even if I wasn't a Tech fan just because of the liberal leanings of Austin and general crappiness of BCS. Oh yeah, I think San Antonio is a lazy city. Everything from roads to houses to arenas are done cheaply. It's just a sloppy, don't care town. That's the body language of the residents.

[lonny23]

Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner, jtk. Well, I guess you might hate SA if you are consumed by Spurs hatred, but aside from that....

San Antonio, when you get right down to it, is an awesome city. Very few places have the identity that San An does, and certainly none in Texas can trace their roots back to 18th century Canary Islanders and Spanish Conquistadores. Downtown SA is one of the few Texas cities you can walk in, and is full of all sorts of architectural treasures. The missions are a national historical treasure. The opening of the new Toyota plant has injected a huge shot into an already pretty good economy. You can fine fine dining, great central-Texas German BBQ, and superior Tex-Mex all in one place. Several pretty good universities, and one outstanding one (Trinity). The best HS football district in Texas. Seriously, what's not to like? Vibrant churches and houses of worship of all stripes. Even the "bad" parts of town are no worse than the "bad" parts of Dallas, Houston, Austin.

Every foreign visitor I have shown around Texas (and that's a few) have come away liking SA better than anywhere else they went.
Don't get me wrong, I have a lot of fun in SA. It sure isn't about Hispanics for me because I like the RGV. I'm not a big fan of Laredo, though. It never can be about race for me because I'm usually the minority at work and that's the case on this deployment, too. Survey says out of 17 people:

1 Puerto Rican
7 Hispanics
6 blacks
2 Asian-Americans
1 white guy

Believe me, you don't make it too well in the armed forces if you have problems with any of the races because you can count on having to work with them.

For the record, I think SA is one of the better places to visit, but I always speak in terms of living there.

[lonny23]

Ah, yes. jtk found the city of San Antonio to be wrapped up in everything "Spurs". jtk is not really a Spurs fan (he's a huge Mavericks fan), but he liked the passionate following he saw in San Antonio. Those people love their Spurs and that is a good thing. jtk can see why the players like giving back to the city. jtk also thinks that is a reason why San Antonio could easily support an NFL team, but that is another thread all together.

BTW, jtk looooooves Mexican/TexMex food and while in San Antonio, jtk was in freaking Heaven. He put on a good 20 pounds while there despite running around Madison Square Park every day. Damn good food.
Yeah, I appreciate the fervent following the Spurs have, but it sure is a pain to live amongst them. Pretty much every NBA fan I've ever met who lived in SA and doesn't root for the Spurs absolutely despises that team. It's not just me and we don't do it because of the players, because they are pretty good guys except for a few dirty tactics here and there.

[lonny23]

I used to do a lot of work down in Del Rio at Laughlin AFB. It wasn't my favorite place, but it wasn't terrible. Amistad has some pretty water. Hell, try living in LOWSIANA. I'd take any town in Texas over this place!Now that's true. I hate the Texas towns on the Lousyanna border just because they remind me of Lousyanna and the people seem to act like they live in Lousyanna.

[lonny23]

Well into the second page and no one has mentioned Vidor?
Are y'all really from Texas or what? This is pretty much a given.
I just didn't feel like typing. I wanted to throw Silsbee, Port Arthur, Orange, Vidor, and Bridge City all under the bus. I have a little more love for Beaumont than the rest.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

Translation: On the first two days, Matthew was sober. On the last two, he was not.

Not true jtk, as a matter of fact, I was sober the entire time I was there.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I just didn't feel like typing. I wanted to throw Silsbee, Port Arthur, Orange, Vidor, and Bridge City all under the bus. I have a little more love for Beaumont than the rest.
It ain't nothing but trouble in Port Arthur.:eek:

[Firebird]

Well if by that you are talking about the landscape, there isn't any argument it is lousy. It's worse now than years back due to the town being quite poor in many parts.

Now if we're talking the makeup of the people, I disagree. In West Texas, you will find some of the friendliest people in the world.
When I grew up there, we didn't lock our doors if we left the house. People didn't steal from you. And they would help anyone in need, still do that and literally would give you the shirt off their back.
So depending on your measuring stick, you may not be on target.

My vote would be Laredo. Almost everyone speaks Spanish, not because they are native to the language. It's just the language used and that upsets me because it should be English in America.
It's also hotter than hades there in the summer.


The hostility towards Spanish speakers never ceases to amaze me. Why does it bother so many people if Mexicans want to speak Spanish to each other? I would like to see one tangible way it hurts you.

[Miss Kitty]

Personally, I don't think of any place as the worst place in Texas. Because even being the worst place of the best state is not all that bad.

I prefer to find the charm in each and every place instead of concentrating on the things I don't like about it. Every place has pros and cons about it. IMO

[t-long20]

Oh yeah, I think San Antonio is a lazy city. Everything from roads to houses to arenas are done cheaply. It's just a sloppy, don't care town. That's the body language of the residents.

well i guess thats the reason to why the cost of living isnt that high..but theres good and bad parts to every city if san antone was that bad im sure they wouldnt want the final four being played every year over there..but i do agree with some of the companie trying to be a monopoly which probably plays a part in having no nfl team here

[Redhoss]

The hostility towards Spanish speakers never ceases to amaze me. Why does it bother so many people if Mexicans want to speak Spanish to each other? I would like to see one tangible way it hurts you.

If you will notice, I made it a point to say that those speaking Spanish weren't all native. Those that make up the population are Jews, Irish, Middle Eastern and Asian. They all speak Spanish. It's as if it's the first language of the town.
This is America. Speak English in public.

By the way, my ex was half Mexican so don't go trying to pull a race card.

[twcpfan1]

If you will notice, I made it a point to say that those speaking Spanish weren't all native. Those that make up the population are Jews, Irish, Middle Eastern and Asian. They all speak Spanish. It's as if it's the first language of the town.
This is America. Speak English in public.

By the way, my ex was half Mexican so don't go trying to pull a race card.

You know I just thought of something. It would be kinda wierd to go to a Chinese restaurant in Paris or Frankfurt. Do the Chinese people there speak French or German? That would be something to see.

[Firebird]

If you will notice, I made it a point to say that those speaking Spanish weren't all native. Those that make up the population are Jews, Irish, Middle Eastern and Asian. They all speak Spanish. It's as if it's the first language of the town.
This is America. Speak English in public.

By the way, my ex was half Mexican so don't go trying to pull a race card.


I'm not pulling the race card. I still don't understand why it bothers you to hear another language. It really is bizarre. What skin comes of your nose if people choose to speak Spanish?

[Firebird]

You know I just thought of something. It would be kinda wierd to go to a Chinese restaurant in Paris or Frankfurt. Do the Chinese people there speak French or German? That would be something to see.


In Russia they speak Russian.

I went to a Mexican food place in St. Petersburg where the waiters were all Latin American students at St. Petersburg State University. They all spoke Russian with a Spanish accent. It really was something to see. Kind of threw you for a loop.

They all spoke Spanish amongst themselves. The Russians didn't seem to mind, thoug;)

[twcpfan1]

That's what I love about London, particularly around Victoria Station. The biggest city in the UK, and hardly anybody speaks English at the main Rail Station. I think the fact that they have open borders in Europe is pretty awesome. Really adds to the atmosphere.

[KT2000]

The average European is tri-lingual, so therein lies the difference. ;)

I would prefer that our schools made learning another language(s) a higher priority from a young age. I feel like being able to communicate in different languages, and learn other cultures is extremely important. I love the USA, but also recognize the importance of being able to communicate effectively in a world that's getting "smaller" each day due to expanding technology.

Besides English, I've studied Spanish and Portuguese (continue to do so) and have found it benefits me from a communication point of view but also on the job market. It's usually the first thing an interviewer brings up.

[Firebird]

The average European is tri-lingual, so therein lies the difference. ;)

I would prefer that our schools made learning another language(s) a higher priority from a young age. I feel like being able to communicate in different languages, and learn other cultures is extremely important. I love the USA, but also recognize the importance of being able to communicate effectively in a world that's getting "smaller" each day due to expanding technology.

Besides English, I've studied Spanish and Portuguese (continue to do so) and have found it benefits me from a communication point of view but also on the job market. It's usually the first thing an interviewer brings up.

Complete agreement....ALL education should be bi-lingual.

Those who don't speak English should have to start learning English as soon as they started in public school. Those who ONLY speak English would have start learning a 2nd language in kindergarden.

[CoveMom]

Personally, I don't think of any place as the worst place in Texas. Because even being the worst place of the best state is not all that bad.

I prefer to find the charm in each and every place instead of concentrating on the things I don't like about it. Every place has pros and cons about it. IMO

MK beat me to this one. There is no worst place/town in Texas. Even Vidor is making great leaps forward. There are some backward places left in East Texas, but they are not like they used to be. So, to sum up: Look to the east, west, north, and northeast for your worst list, because you will not find a legitimate one in Texas.

Homer post.

[twcpfan1]

The average European is tri-lingual, so therein lies the difference. ;)

I would prefer that our schools made learning another language(s) a higher priority from a young age. I feel like being able to communicate in different languages, and learn other cultures is extremely important. I love the USA, but also recognize the importance of being able to communicate effectively in a world that's getting "smaller" each day due to expanding technology.

Besides English, I've studied Spanish and Portuguese (continue to do so) and have found it benefits me from a communication point of view but also on the job market. It's usually the first thing an interviewer brings up.

Totally agree. Matter of fact, they should take it a step further. With the technology that's available, it would be quite easy to have organized video webchats between our kids and kids from say, France, so they can have intelligent discussion about matters that would directly affect their future. I think it would promote tolerance and understanding to listen to opposing points of view.

[KT2000]

I didn't realize this until fairly recently, but our greatest capacity for language learning is from birth through roughly 12 years of age. That's when most of the cognitive development takes place. I've seen people express concern over confusing a child by exposing them to one or more foreign languages early on, but I think we can greatly underestimate what kids are capable of given what's been proven in various studies. I only started learning Spanish in junior high, but wish I could have started earlier.

[Firebird]

I didn't realize this until fairly recently, but our greatest capacity for language learning is from birth through roughly 12 years of age. That's when most of the cognitive development takes place. I've seen people express concern over confusing a child by exposing them to one or more foreign languages early on, but I think we can greatly underestimate what kids are capable of given what's been proven in various studies. I only started learning Spanish in junior high, but wish I could have started earlier.

You are exactly right. Every single study ever undertaken has shown that the best time to teach languages is as young as possible. Putting it off till the later grades is counter--productive.

You will notice that kids from truly bilingual households don't have big confusion issues.

[BandidoNB]

The hostility towards Spanish speakers never ceases to amaze me. Why does it bother so many people if Mexicans want to speak Spanish to each other? I would like to see one tangible way it hurts you.

I agree, why does it matter that we speak spanish if we can speak english anyways? Never satisfied it seems.

[wide-e-wide]

The hostility towards Spanish speakers never ceases to amaze me. Why does it bother so many people if Mexicans want to speak Spanish to each other? I would like to see one tangible way it hurts you.

I say if you're in my country you should learn to speak the native language. After that if you want to speak Spanish to one another...fine. But don't roll your [censored] into my country and think we are gonna cater to you because you no comprende. F' that...they don't cater to Americans in Mexico...you either speak the language or you're [censored] outta' luck.

My ancestors (including Mexicans on my mother's side) learned the language. They adjusted and did as the natives did. My German speaking ancestors did the same...even changed the way our name was pronounced and spelled.
Why the hell are Mexicans any different?

Pure and simple...either learn to speak the language or get the [censored] out of my country. I'm not gonna spend 30 minutes trying to explain something that takes 2 minutes to understand.

Please someone call me a racist...please do it.

and OH BY THE WAY....I speak Spanish.

[jtk1519]

I say if you're in my country you should learn to speak the native language. After that if you want to speak Spanish to one another...fine. But don't roll your [censored] into my country and think we are gonna cater to you because you no comprende. F' that...they don't cater to Americans in Mexico...you either speak the language or you're [censored] outta' luck.

My ancestors (including Mexicans on my mother's side) learned the language. They adjusted and did as the natives did. My German speaking ancestors did the same...even changed the way our name was pronounced and spelled.
Why the hell are Mexicans any different?

Pure and simple...either learn to speak the language or get the [censored] out of my country. I'm not gonna spend 30 minutes trying to explain something that takes 2 minutes to understand.

Please someone call me a racist...please do it.

and OH BY THE WAY....I speak Spanish.

You're a racist.

[wide-e-wide]

You're a racist.

You're from Oklahoma...like your opinion matters.:rolleyes:

[jtk1519]

You're from Oklahoma...like your opinion matters.:rolleyes:

Can we see your hat?

[wide-e-wide]

Can we see your hat?

No habla Engles

[jtk1519]

No habla Engles

Que?

[BlackandRed05]

I say if you're in my country you should learn to speak the native language. After that if you want to speak Spanish to one another...fine. But don't roll your [censored] into my country and think we are gonna cater to you because you no comprende. F' that...they don't cater to Americans in Mexico...you either speak the language or you're [censored] outta' luck.

My ancestors (including Mexicans on my mother's side) learned the language. They adjusted and did as the natives did. My German speaking ancestors did the same...even changed the way our name was pronounced and spelled.
Why the hell are Mexicans any different?

Pure and simple...either learn to speak the language or get the [censored] out of my country. I'm not gonna spend 30 minutes trying to explain something that takes 2 minutes to understand.

Please someone call me a racist...please do it.

and OH BY THE WAY....I speak Spanish.

On the other side of the coin, I remember when I was stationed in Germany, most German citizens could speak english well, but they appreciated you more if you tried to speak German when striking up a conversation.

[wide-e-wide]

Que?

¡cállate!...pindejo.

[Primetime536]

The 3 worse for sure all have 1 thing in common, and thats stupid driviers...

Waco... Every time some new murder pops up they test new technology out there infact several of the latest forensics since 80's have been tested out there and has changed capturing criminals, not to mention if it's that time of day when moms picking up the kids get off the road! Just cause your in a suv doesn't mean you run me over as please so stop crying when i drop my beverage on you're windshield.

Another lovely town has to be Bryan college station, morons can't drive for crap there they feel the need to pass everyone in front of of them (pst when i drive i average 85-90 on predominate empty highway roads) and the best part is watching them try to pass you even when common since shows trucks or cars will never beat a motorcycle... Aside from driving those people act like they never seen someone of half African descendant look "not gangster" i aint your n.i to the double g.a nor can i bust a flow and drop a beat for you boxing isn't my 2nd nature nor do i have a 9 gat or heart though if i did you'd be my next head shot out side of counter strike.

Another horrid town I've had the uncanny luxury of driving through is Abilene that place would be the type of town no one would really care about if it got destroyed or fell into the ocean, and whats up with these people around here the first time i went through i was with my mother around the time "the fast and the furious" came out next thing i know everyone thinks they're a street racer around this place even the kiddies in that old rusted 80 army tank. The next time i went was when i had my own car and yes ironically 2 fast 2 furious came out, and it seems every ****** there was reeving there engine at me like they wanted a race first year i had my license so i ain't losing it that fast. and the 5th time i went through was on my own again got my crotch rocket and go figure Tokyo drift had came out about some month ago, and i'm driving through and had to get food and beverage and yeah... Some ****** failed drifted into an accident. Lets just say on a side note this town is infatuated with the imports, car modifications, and the fast and the furious trilogy. Vin diesel would be the god of this town and would have his selection of every women of his choosing men would attend to his needs with the snap of a finger, and I'm sure after every high school game they gather together and play need for speed!

Houston like someone said just the traffic and over excessive rain and maybe crime.

Dallas kill the crime and the constant construction.

San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Austin fix your traffic.

Temple learn how to construct...

Belton Ramonce isn't a celebrity.

Killeen and Copperas cove, you're like a mix of Waco and Abilene combine.

and there go my choices.

By far the worst city in Texas, Copperas Cove. The city is complete garbage. It is a one road city, pathetic.

[elprezidente]

¡cállate!...pindejo.

spanish 101

no hablas Ingles.

callate PENdejo

[TexasRed6x]

spanish 101

no hablas Ingles.

callate PENdejo

Man you guys are funny with the pendejo stuff. Hilarious.

[wide-e-wide]

spanish 101

no hablas Ingles.

callate PENdejo

I said I speak it....never said I could spell it.

[elprezidente]

I said I speak it....never said I could spell it.
just for future reference.

[jtk1519]

I said I speak it....never said I could spell it.

Says the dirt burglar.

[elprezidente]

Says the dirt burglar.

guess he hasnt read little town thread:eek:

[Tigerjag]

The water sucks!



I've never tasted water like Lubbock's. Sucks is putting it mildly. It's been 20 years since I had a sip of it, and I can almost taste the awfulness now!

[RedRage00]

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevefoxsc
San Antonio... SPEAK ENGLISH I'M NOT YOUR "ESE" OR "HOLMES" AND THAT RED BANDANNA YOUR SPORTING ISN'T GANGSTER, if so the pancake isle is straight on lock by Aunt Jemima's.

Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either
Lmao, never on in my 10-12 years of living in SA have I ever been called "ese" or "holmes"....don't see too many red bandannas either.


I know! I've been in SA 3 years and I have never been called ESE or HOLMES, etc. Sounds like he has some race issues. :rolleyes:

The only Holmes I know is Holmes HS! :D

[RedRage00]

I think Lonny keeps excel spreadsheets for towns he hates, teams he likes, etc. His hatred of San Antonio is pretty irrational. I can't figure it out.

Word! His hatred for SA is really ********! lol

[J-Rock Mom]

I didn't realize this until fairly recently, but our greatest capacity for language learning is from birth through roughly 12 years of age. That's when most of the cognitive development takes place. I've seen people express concern over confusing a child by exposing them to one or more foreign languages early on, but I think we can greatly underestimate what kids are capable of given what's been proven in various studies. I only started learning Spanish in junior high, but wish I could have started earlier.


All my kids were exposed to the Spanish/English language at born. In my house we speak both, at my Mother-in-laws it is only Spanish and at my parents it is English. I think it is great for kids to be exposed to different languages.

San Antonio is a great city. The people who think that they would be called names have never enjoyed our city.

Stevefoxsc
Tu no entiendes o comprendes el ambiente de San Antonio y su jente.....

[Winston]

SA is a great place. Classy NBA fans, no high school steroid/cocaine scandals, very few cultural racist/redneck/general hate issues, probably because most people there have lives. Seriously does not belong in a discussion about worst places in TX.

[Redhoss]

I've never tasted water like Lubbock's. Sucks is putting it mildly. It's been 20 years since I had a sip of it, and I can almost taste the awfulness now!

Oh, I can tell you never had any water in Fort Stockton.

You would think Lubbock's was champagne.

[Redhoss]

I'm not pulling the race card. I still don't understand why it bothers you to hear another language. It really is bizarre. What skin comes of your nose if people choose to speak Spanish?

The reason it bothers me is that if you enter a business in Laredo, the first person you come in contact with addresses you in Spanish and not English.
English is our primary language and should be used as such by every citizen while in public.

I have no problem with those of Latin descent speaking at home in whatever language they choose.

And I'm all for being able to speak in various languages. It's a good thing.

But go across the border into Mexico and see if the first person you contact addresses you in English or German or French.

Yo hablo espanol.

[Redhoss]

You know I just thought of something. It would be kinda wierd to go to a Chinese restaurant in Paris or Frankfurt. Do the Chinese people there speak French or German? That would be something to see.

The first time I heard someone with a Middle Eastern surname and appearance speaking Spanish, it blew me away.

And of course it was the same for the Chinese in the restaurants there doing so.

It really makes an impression and certainly isn't expected.

It's strange when we have a visual in our minds of what should come out of the mouth and what is the usual and then it's different. It takes a little getting used to for sure.

I wonder if Americans traveling to other places at some point came across to the natives as unusual if we spoke their language?

[twcpfan1]

The reason it bothers me is that if you enter a business in Laredo, the first person you come in contact with addresses you in Spanish and not English.
English is our primary language and should be used as such by every citizen while in public.

I have no problem with those of Latin descent speaking at home in whatever language they choose.

And I'm all for being able to speak in various languages. It's a good thing.

But go across the border into Mexico and see if the first person you contact addresses you in English or German or French.

Yo hablo espanol.

I do not think it would be too much trouble for you to tell the person that you do not speak Spanish. I'm sure he will be more than happy to serve you in English once he knows.

[SV61]

The first time I heard someone with a Middle Eastern surname and appearance speaking Spanish, it blew me away.

And of course it was the same for the Chinese in the restaurants there doing so.

It really makes an impression and certainly isn't expected.

It's strange when we have a visual in our minds of what should come out of the mouth and what is the usual and then it's different. It takes a little getting used to for sure.

I wonder if Americans traveling to other places at some point came across to the natives as unusual if we spoke their language?

Done it.

Been to Mexico City on business, and it is seen as a pleasant surprise. It is not expected, but welcome. Same in Ireland (Gaelic), etc. French despise us, because the world revolves around English.

Worst town?? Laredo. Ick.

Teaching in bi-lingual is a wonderful idea, as long as everyone is prepared to pay for it. I think that is the whole language barrier issue right now. What does it cost to teach a language (English) that for generations has been implied that it would be a skill possessed by the child when they entered school? This way of thinking is not free.

My wife's parents speak little English. They have lived in the US for over 40 years. My point is, if you are satisfied with a life style such as theirs, then there is not a reason to learn English. But, on the other hand, if you want to get ahead in this Country (North of Falfurrias anyway), you had better have a good handle on English as well as Spanish.

[farmerfan]

Worst town in Texas has to be Sanger. Talk about your toothless agression. It's terrible.

[Tigerjag]

Oh, I can tell you never had any water in Fort Stockton.

You would think Lubbock's was champagne.

Thanks for the warning! I've been to Fort Stockton, but I don't remember the water. If I go back, bottled water only for me!

Now that yucky, remembered taste is back.... bleeeech.

[Redhoss]

I do not think it would be too much trouble for you to tell the person that you do not speak Spanish. I'm sure he will be more than happy to serve you in English once he knows.

It's America, I shouldn't have to ask.

[Redhoss]

Done it.

Been to Mexico City on business, and it is seen as a pleasant surprise. It is not expected, but welcome. Same in Ireland (Gaelic), etc. French despise us, because the world revolves around English.


I do seem to recall hearing that Chirac would not let any of his cabinet ministers speak English in any of the meetings.
Of course everyone knows the French are really different :D

[Redhoss]

The water in those places is so bad it ruins iced tea. :rolleyes:

[scooter!]

Amarillo for me. Just because of the smell. It's like being in SW Louisiana in that regard.
Are you serious? i have to spend one night there on my way to Alaska

[scooter!]

My vote would be Wichita Falls.
Wichita Falls was ok. I was stationed there.

[scooter!]

WOW! You start putting all the cities you don't like in Texas together and pretty soon Texas isn't as great a place as everyone says it is. I didn't like the Port Arthur area but I had to live and work there four days out of the week in 1999 which forced me to be away from my family. That sucked and clouded my perspective. Thank God for H.S. football and BBQ!!Whoa buddy :D

That's my home-home town.

[scooter!]

You guys know I could throw a whole laundry list of towns out here that I don't think much of, but I will say that Texas towns relatively speaking blow most other towns away. Of the many armpits in Texas, the one I like least is Jasper. Whoever said east of I-45 was on the right track, but it's mostly east of I-35 for me. There are a few places in that corridor I like though.Jasper is nice :D

[scooter!]

I just didn't feel like typing. I wanted to throw Silsbee, Port Arthur, Orange, Vidor, and Bridge City all under the bus. I have a little more love for Beaumont than the rest.Shut up!!:D

[scooter!]

It ain't nothing but trouble in Port Arthur.:eek:
Now why would you say that? P.A. is the safest town in Texas :D :eek:

[slorch]

Now why would you say that? P.A. is the safest town in Texas :D :eek:

PA gets a pass just for giving us Jimmy...:D

[scooter!]

PA gets a pass just for giving us Jimmy...:DHe needs to come back.....:D

[Texasfrog]

He needs to come back.....:D

I think he likes the Fla Keys a lot better.

[scooter!]

I think he likes the Fla Keys a lot better.I would to......not Hurricane season though