Texas High(4A) 45 Evangel, LA 10

[PurpleNation]

Wow is it me or does it seam that the football over there has really went on a decline. I remeber when ECA used to be the Stuff what at first appeared to be a dominate Arkansas team that beat them the week before now looks like ECA just cant play that good.


Week 0 Score

Joh Tyler 20 Texas High 14

[pack0808]

Wow is it me or does it seam that the football over there has really went on a decline. I remeber when ECA used to be the Stuff what at first appeared to be a dominate Arkansas team that beat them the week before now looks like ECA just cant play that good.


Week 0 Score

Joh Tyler 20 Texas High 14



They hit a major decline after the 2002 season. They have not been 1/4th of what they were since. The reason is that they were forced to go to 1a and that is not appealing to recruits i mean cough cough move in's. ;) You knew this was going to happen when they forced them to 1a. When the word got out it was over. Some had some issues with Evangel in the state and they knew this would ruin them. They had an agenda and it has prevailed. They are brutal now. JT beat Texarkana folks. JT was 1-9 last year. :eek:

[c-lisle]

What had a more immediate affect on the decline was when Ocoordinator left to go to Calgary, another private school. He took alot of clout and talent with him and they haven't been the same since. They are big up front....but very slow. I think Lview is going to destroy them this year. I just hope we can get out w/o injuries....it is always a very physical game.

[svrangerfan]

Longview will destroy them. As Abilene would have if EC had not backed out of the game.

[Texasfrog]

What had a more immediate affect on the decline was when Ocoordinator left to go to Calgary, another private school. He took alot of clout and talent with him and they haven't been the same since. They are big up front....but very slow. I think Lview is going to destroy them this year. I just hope we can get out w/o injuries....it is always a very physical game.

Watchng the ECA vs Springdale, Ark game. I remember seeing a couple of ECA defensive starters going out of the game with injuries (looked serious). If they didnt play against Texas High I'm sure it had some effect because both of those kids were two of ECA better defensive players.

I also agree that ECA hasnt been their powerful self since about 2001. I know they've won State in Louisiana a couple of times since then but they still werent "dominating" like they were back in the late 90's.

A few of those 90's ECA teams were very salty.

[Texasfrog]

Longview will destroy them. As Abilene would have if EC had not backed out of the game.

Abilene better get ready for the Rockhurst , mo team. That team is I believe (3-0) and beating everyone like 37-7 up there. There coach is also claiming this is his best team (Rockhurst) since his been there coaching (so that's saying something).

[c-lisle]

Watchng the ECA vs Springdale, Ark game. I remember seeing a couple of ECA defensive starters going out of the game with injuries (looked serious). If they didnt play against Texas High I'm sure it had some effect because both of those kids were two of ECA better defensive players.

I also agree that ECA hasnt been their powerful self since about 2001. I know they've won State in Louisiana a couple of times since then but they still werent "dominating" like they were back in the late 90's.

A few of those 90's ECA teams were very salty.

I hate to hear about injuries. Lview has already lost it's two starting LBs for an indefinite period. I just don't want to lose anymore starters from a game that, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't mean diddly.

[Redneckn]

Before I get started on my real reason for posting. The numbskull that said "Longview will destroy them. As Abilene would have if EC had not backed out of the game". You cant read? Or do you prefer to open your hole before you know what the facts are? ECA didnt back out of anything. ECA has more "district" games this year. Let me make this math really simple.
If there are 10 games. last year ECA only had 6 district games, then theywould have had 4 non-district games. They got forced into 1A, now they have 7 district games. That means only 3 non district games. ECA has had plans for Springdale, Longview, and TexasHigh long before Abilene. Someobody had to go. Nobody backed out. Get a grip on reality.

[Redneckn]

I agree ECA is struggling hard this year. People keep tossing the word "decline" around. I would tend to think of it as more of a few years where they haven't been how they were. When you think about what they have accomplished since 1989 when the team started, I would call it remarkable.
Being in 1A has started the process of what the LHSAA set out to do. Destroy ECA. They cant get any of the crappy Louisiana teams to do it on the field, so they do other ways. Which is what we now have. I honestly dont think it will work though. More than likely, it will blow up thier faces.
If for no other reason, than everybody in the state knows that no matter who wins that 5A trophy, the rightful owner got robbed.


I look for Longview to win this Friday, but I am still going back home to watch it because it is always such a good game.

[c-lisle]

Hey redneckn. I have heard ECA got several(11) transfers from the NO disaster. Do you knwo if its true? If so what do you know about the players and the impact, if any, they might have on the game. I don't blame you for coming home to see this one. Considering the circumstances ECA will be pulling out all the stops to win this. With what I have seen from ECA I seriously don't think they can hang with Lview this year. I hope we can have the second teamers in by the middle of the 3rd qtr. I just hope both teams keep it clean. The game has become increasingly physical each year. I hope the Coaches take it upon themselves to make sure their players play nice.

[PurpleNation]

Was West Monroe the #1 team in La when Longview played them. Who cares about ECA's tranfers they will recruit that Blue Chip QB that can throw a 20 yard out from a 20 yard shot gun next season. not like them to keep getting bad recruting classes. i look for them to get about 10 Blue chips next season (LOL).

[Redneckn]

Rclisle41: I know the school as a whole has gotten around 40 or so "new" students. As for the team, I am not real sure. I think your number is fairly close though.

I wouldnt miss the Longview game for nothing. Sure to be a good game no matter what. I don't think ECA will be able to hang with Longview either. I wish that werent that way. But, you cant have it all all the time. ECA is having to reconfigure things currently. Hopefully they can be back up to par in the next year or 2. In time to take back over football in Louisiana. :D

[c-lisle]

Was West Monroe the #1 team in La when Longview played them. Who cares about ECA's tranfers they will recruit that Blue Chip QB that can throw a 20 yard out from a 20 yard shot gun next season. not like them to keep getting bad recruting classes. i look for them to get about 10 Blue chips next season (LOL).

Yes WM was the preseason #1 team in LA.

[Redneckn]

RumorMill back home has it that ECA has a qb from JohnCurtis as of today. I dont know how much of that is true though.

I know they sure do need it...Now that the season is pretty much over. :(


Since some people like to constantly toss the "R" word off into any discussion about ECA, I have to wonder if any of these footballknowitalls ever thought about why it is that ECA recruits so much yet does not have a QB. You would think that since they recruit so hard they would have had no trouble at all getting a "blue chip QB" come on over this year. Or last year. or the year before. You know, back when they knew they werent going to have a QB. I wonder if it is because they dont recruit like people think or if it is because nobody in the state of Louisiana wanted to come and play for the premier team in Louisiana.
If you think about it just for a second, you start to see that it makes no sense at all. If they did indeed recruit, then they would have a QB. If you look at the calibre of QB that has been the mainstay at ECA you have got to know that the coaches knew they were about to be with a QB.

But I guess somebody will have some answer to that.

[raidercheerdad]

RumorMill back home has it that ECA has a qb from JohnCurtis as of today. I dont know how much of that is true though.

I know they sure do need it...Now that the season is pretty much over. :(


Since some people like to constantly toss the "R" word off into any discussion about ECA, I have to wonder if any of these footballknowitalls ever thought about why it is that ECA recruits so much yet does not have a QB. You would think that since they recruit so hard they would have had no trouble at all getting a "blue chip QB" come on over this year. Or last year. or the year before. You know, back when they knew they werent going to have a QB. I wonder if it is because they dont recruit like people think or if it is because nobody in the state of Louisiana wanted to come and play for the premier team in Louisiana.
If you think about it just for a second, you start to see that it makes no sense at all. If they did indeed recruit, then they would have a QB. If you look at the calibre of QB that has been the mainstay at ECA you have got to know that the coaches knew they were about to be with a QB.

But I guess somebody will have some answer to that.
I don't know that much about the system in LA or the "R" word at private schools. I have heard that they are having a harder time getting quality players to come to ECA since the program dropped from 2A to 1A. I don't know what the difference is there so maybe you can enlighten me. Thanks.

[Redneckn]

Raidercheerdad. They were forced down to 1A from 5A. ECA has always been a 1 or 2A sized school but played "up" to get some real competition. That kind of thing didnt fly well with the publics so over time, they were able to change the rules so they could force schools (privates mostly) to play in whatever level they were sized at.

The system in La seems to be a nightmare at best. Nobody is in any way interested in what happens with anybody else really. There is also an interesting story from the Shreveport Times i posted on another link today that is kind of eye opening.

All in all, ECA will continue to play ball. Things will be a little tight for the next year or 2 then it will pick back up. I am just ready for them to be able to compete with the Texas teams again.

[Mr_Clean]

Longview will destroy them. As Abilene would have if EC had not backed out of the game.

I've said it for quite some time (I'm sure TexasFrog can vouch for it) that Louisiana football has been in a serious recession/depression going on three years now.

After the Hurricane, Louisiana football may never get back to the level it once was, because north Louisiana usually only has two top teams.

For the record, Evangel was placed in a new district with seven teams. Thus, the Abilene game had to be replaced with a district contest.

[pack0808]

If there ever was any recruiting there will be none now that they are in 1a. I mean who wants to go play a few big non district games and then battle for a joke 1a championship?? :eek: If evangel stays in 1a they are dead!! Mission accomplished for whoever put them down to 1a. Evangel is done as a football power in my opinion unless this changes.

[SLCDad]

Wow is it me or does it seam that the football over there has really went on a decline. I remeber when ECA used to be the Stuff what at first appeared to be a dominate Arkansas team that beat them the week before now looks like ECA just cant play that good.


Week 0 Score

Joh Tyler 20 Texas High 14I'm afraid this thread is not allowed here. 4A games and teams don't count.

[LGVAg]

I'm glad that ECA is 1A now. THAT is why they don't have a QB, because no kid in their right mind would want to go and play for a 1A school, can't get into college playing 1A LA football. Even if ECA wins all of their games, nobody will care because they are 1A. Like I said before, the pathetic staff and coaches at ECA had it coming to them, and they got it now.

The only "nightmare" in the LA system was allowing ECA to recruit, and they finally put them where they belong.

Funny, they present themselves under the Christian name, no? Especially when you see the personal fouls that team racks up, and the language they use on the field. Oh well, we've owned them the past 3 years and will do so again this year.

[Redneckn]

I dont think I have ever heard anybody sound more like a whiney little brat.

LGVAG. What does the "christian" part have to do with anything really? Nothing. I've seen personal fouls at every single football game I have attended. By both sides. What does that have to do with someones faith? Nothing.

ECA didnt do anykind of recruiting outside of the rules. So where does that leave us? That would be with you (and others) making all kinds of b-s claims about something you know nothing about.

You're right. Nobody would want to go to a 1A school. Except ECA.

I think your line of thinking is off a little. You hate a school you really know nothing about. And know you nothing about it because the only problems you can come up with are the same old played out crap that everybody says. ECA has problems just like other schools. But i've not seen you or anyone else post anything about those problems. That would be because you dont have a clue what you're talking about.


See ya at the game Saturday.

[bleedgreen]

get 'em Redneckin!!! don't let them talk about ECA that way--LOL.......brother, there is nothing more that i like than a person who stays true to their team...every team goes through a few years of a slump--that's football....ECA will return to power before long(if all of the players hadn't transfered to calvary already?)......i was wanting to tell you to not "go home" to far, and definitely not on saturday...the game is in Longview and it's on friday night........maybe we can meet at halftime and shoot the bull a little??? ECA will still add to the state titles list this season, no matter how you look at it...might be 1A, but still a title, nevertheless.......................

[LGVAg]

I dont think I have ever heard anybody sound more like a whiney little brat.

LGVAG. What does the "christian" part have to do with anything really? Nothing. I've seen personal fouls at every single football game I have attended. By both sides. What does that have to do with someones faith? Nothing.

ECA didnt do anykind of recruiting outside of the rules. So where does that leave us? That would be with you (and others) making all kinds of b-s claims about something you know nothing about.

You're right. Nobody would want to go to a 1A school. Except ECA.

I think your line of thinking is off a little. You hate a school you really know nothing about. And know you nothing about it because the only problems you can come up with are the same old played out crap that everybody says. ECA has problems just like other schools. But i've not seen you or anyone else post anything about those problems. That would be because you dont have a clue what you're talking about.


See ya at the game Saturday.


What does Christian have to do with it? It's simple, really. ECA gets on the PA at games, acts like they're "God's Team" and the other team is the Devil. They play Christian songs and do all kinds of other stuff that is B-S. They act one way, but on the field act completely opposite. They cuss, breaking a commandment, and do tons of other unsportsmanlike things. It's one thing to get personal fouls, it's another to act like Christians and the better man and then your actions show something else. ECA are a bunch of hypocrites, that's what I'm saying.

And I don't know, but it's kind of funny whenever a QB from California comes all the way to small Shreveport to play football (Brock Berlin) for some strange strange reason. And it's also rather strange that everyone and their neighbor knows that ECA recruits, yet you guys still deny it. It's rather funny, actually. I know plenty about ECA... And that's why I hate them and laugh my *** off whenever teams like Springdale completely embarass them in front of the entire nation.

The bottom line is, ECA is a K-12 school that has 600 kids, so they had to business being 5A in the first place. The LHHSA did the right thing, because last time I checked, schools were determined by enrollment, not by skill and talent in football.

[Redneckn]

What does Christian have to do with it? It's simple, really. ECA gets on the PA at games, acts like they're "God's Team" and the other team is the Devil. They play Christian songs and do all kinds of other stuff that is B-S. They act one way, but on the field act completely opposite. They cuss, breaking a commandment, and do tons of other unsportsmanlike things. It's one thing to get personal fouls, it's another to act like Christians and the better man and then your actions show something else. ECA are a bunch of hypocrites, that's what I'm saying.

And I don't know, but it's kind of funny whenever a QB from California comes all the way to small Shreveport to play football (Brock Berlin) for some strange strange reason. And it's also rather strange that everyone and their neighbor knows that ECA recruits, yet you guys still deny it. It's rather funny, actually. I know plenty about ECA... And that's why I hate them and laugh my *** off whenever teams like Springdale completely embarass them in front of the entire nation.

The bottom line is, ECA is a K-12 school that has 600 kids, so they had to business being 5A in the first place. The LHHSA did the right thing, because last time I checked, schools were determined by enrollment, not by skill and talent in football.

Where do I begin? California? What? You numbskull. He came from Florida. He was in 6th or 7th grade at the time. His father came BACK to shreveport and joined the staff at the church. What now?

About recruitment. As I've stated before. That is really all a matter of how you define the word. As far as the LHSAA is concerned, they've not broken any rules. What now?

They play Christian music and promote that atmosphere because they are a church school and they promote that lifestyle. Ask anybody at that school and they will tell you that they have kids that are no christian kids and do not profess to be. But the school is. Would you rather have a Christian school blasting F-ing AC/DC over the PA? I sure wouldn't. Ya know what I think. I think you have a problem with people being Christian. I think Christians scare you for some reason. Are you scared of God?

Glad you can rejoice in their losses. Does that make really make you feel better about yourself or something? Issues anyone?
Dr.Redneckn in the house.

ECA had business in 5A. Otherwise they would have never let them play 5A. The publics thought that ECA was going to come into 5A and get stomped, when that didnt happen, they got mad. It doesnt really matter if ECA is 1A, 5A, 6A, or 0A. They are still going to be ECA and they still going to play ball and they are still going to be a respected team. You may not respect them, but I have a feeling that somebody over in Longview does, otherwise, there would be no game between the 2.
You either love 'em or hate 'em. But when they're bad, they're bad to the bone. Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) is unstoppable every single year. ECA is having a bad year. Relish in it while you still have time.



BleedGreen. I'd love to shake your hand at the half. Baby and I will be where the smokers are.

[PurpleNation]

Actually I had an ECA Fan admit to me at a game they do recruit players. Its a provate school so no big deal. Remember that 6'2 290lbs RB in "01" big dud he didn't even go to ECA until his SR season. And I repeat I had a fan admit that he was one of the ones they recruited. I dont know if he was pulling my leg but ECA has always been said to recruit.

And BTW yes there a christian school but nobody is perfect I am active in my youth group but I still have flaws in me. Sometimes your emotions take the best of you on the field. As a Longview fan you have no room to talk besides klien Forest LV is the dirtiest team I have ever played against.

[Redneckn]

I'm not say they have never recruited anyone. I'm saying that they have not broken any of the LHSAA's rules as far as recruting goes. Because anything could be considered recruiting.

[LGVAg]

Where do I begin? California? What? You numbskull. He came from Florida. He was in 6th or 7th grade at the time. His father came BACK to shreveport and joined the staff at the church. What now?

About recruitment. As I've stated before. That is really all a matter of how you define the word. As far as the LHSAA is concerned, they've not broken any rules. What now?

They play Christian music and promote that atmosphere because they are a church school and they promote that lifestyle. Ask anybody at that school and they will tell you that they have kids that are no christian kids and do not profess to be. But the school is. Would you rather have a Christian school blasting F-ing AC/DC over the PA? I sure wouldn't. Ya know what I think. I think you have a problem with people being Christian. I think Christians scare you for some reason. Are you scared of God?

Glad you can rejoice in their losses. Does that make really make you feel better about yourself or something? Issues anyone?
Dr.Redneckn in the house.

ECA had business in 5A. Otherwise they would have never let them play 5A. The publics thought that ECA was going to come into 5A and get stomped, when that didnt happen, they got mad. It doesnt really matter if ECA is 1A, 5A, 6A, or 0A. They are still going to be ECA and they still going to play ball and they are still going to be a respected team. You may not respect them, but I have a feeling that somebody over in Longview does, otherwise, there would be no game between the 2.
You either love 'em or hate 'em. But when they're bad, they're bad to the bone. Nobody (and I mean NOBODY) is unstoppable every single year. ECA is having a bad year. Relish in it while you still have time.



BleedGreen. I'd love to shake your hand at the half. Baby and I will be where the smokers are.

I watched every Miami game the past 2 years, and they said he was from somewhere in California. Oh well, Brock Berlin sucks, just like the school he came out of, so I guess it's irrelevant.

And let's talk about recruiting. Where did I say that ECA broke rules? All I said was that they recruit and you lost it and got all defensive. I never once said ECA broke rules. I love how you make up things I say when I never said them. LOL! Leave it to ECA...

They may be a church school, but they do NOT promote the lifestyle with their actions on the field. They don't even come close. And when you say they have kids who are not Christian, what are they doing at a Christian school, then? Were the *gasp* recruited for football? Why would I be scared of Christians when I am one? That's why ECA makes me sick to my stomach. Yes, I'm a God-fearing person.... So?

Yeah, I rejoice in their losses because like I said, the pathetic people at ECA deserve it.

Ah, right, so because ECA recruited and won in 5A that means that they should have been there? No, it doesn't. Schools are determined by enrollment, don't blame me if some idiot Louisiana people got them in 5A. They had no business there. And no, nobody at Longview respects ECA. You should hear Coach King talk about you guys if you think I'm bad. The reason he plays you guys every year is to beat up on you guys because that's what you used to do to his team, but now he has some talent and is paying it back threefold (and soon to be fourfold LOL!)

Yeah, ECA's a love or hate school, and the entire state of LA hates them, as does most of Texas. Otherwise, you wouldn't see thousands upon thousands of fans showing up to cheer against them. Haha, I remember laughing whenever our stadium side was filled and there were like 500 ECA fans. :eek:

And why should I relish in your losses while I have the time? For one, Longview is like 3-1 against them, even when they were nationally ranked. Now that they're terrible, Longview will just continue to own and embarass them. And even should they win in LA now, who cares? They are 1A. LOL!!

[Texasfrog]

I'm not say they have never recruited anyone. I'm saying that they have not broken any of the LHSAA's rules as far as recruting goes. Because anything could be considered recruiting.


That's been my point about ECA recruiting. I know they've given financical aid to kids that were football players so they could come to the school and play football.

ECA can get away with things in Louisiana that the Texas (UIL) wouldnt let them get away with. Dallas Jesuit and Houston Strake Jesuit couldnt do some of those things that ECA is allowed to do with the LHSAA.

If Texas could play with those rules... there would be about 8 Powerhouse High school teams across Texas and it would be the same 8 teams every year and trust me they would be bigtime "BAD." D-1A college level teams with there speed, ability and size if Texas played by LHSAA rules.

As far as the Christian stuff. I'm a Baptist and I'm dang sure not perfect. I know when I played football and had my moments on the field that were (unchristian). The Crusaders fought for Christian Lands and virtues and they did alot of unchristian stuff.

Football is a violent sport. It promotes violence and toughness and being tougher then the guy across from you.

PS. The Christian music at ECA games does get on your nerves sometimes. I've only been to a couple of games there. The team I wanted to win was also getting beat by ECA so the music just added to pissing me off.

[LGVAg]

That's been my point about ECA recruiting. I know they've given financical aid to kids that were football players so they could come to the school and play football.

ECA can get away with things in Louisiana that the Texas (UIL) wouldnt let them get away with. Dallas Jesuit and Houston Strake Jesuit couldnt do some of those things that ECA is allowed to do with the LHSAA.

If Texas could play with those rules... there would be about 8 Powerhouse High school teams across Texas and it would be the same 8 teams every year and trust me they would be bigtime "BAD." D-1A college level teams with there speed, ability and size if Texas played by LHSAA rules.

As far as the Christian stuff. I'm a Baptist and I'm dang sure not perfect. I know when I played football and had my moments on the field that were (unchristian). The Crusaders fought for Christian Lands and virtues and they did alot of unchristian stuff.

Football is a violent sport. It promotes violence and toughness and being tougher then the guy across from you.

PS. The Christian music at ECA games does get on your nerves sometimes. I've only been to a couple of games there. The team I wanted to win was also getting beat by ECA so the music just added to pissing me off.


I agree about nobody being perfect, but there's a difference between being competitive and tough, and intentionally doing things after the play and cursing and stuff to try and get the other team off their game.

[Texasfrog]

I'm not say they have never recruited anyone. I'm saying that they have not broken any of the LHSAA's rules as far as recruting goes. Because anything could be considered recruiting.

Redneck.. I have a question for you. I've never really asked anyone from ECA this question but have always wanted to.

What's the deal with the kids shaving their legs ??? I've noticed that in the past that alot of the (ECA) players have shaved legs. Is there something to this ?? :confused:

[Redneckn]

Well, I'm crushed. The Longview game is Friday nite. I was under the impression it was Saturday. So for those of you that are wanting to see my smiling face so bad. I dont get off work until 7 friday. So there is no way I can be in Longview in time for the game.

Moving right along now.
LgvAg. you said : Yeah, I rejoice in their losses because like I said, the pathetic people at ECA deserve it.

And you call yourself a Christian? Uh...
I just went back re-read what you've stated. Really, you should be thankful that I wont be able to make the game. I am the type of person that believes in reasoning with people and making logical sense of things. Sometimes, there are people I come across that are just so blinded by their own stupidity that they are just no good to themselves or to society as a whole. Because there is ignorance (just not knowing) and then there is stupidity (unable to know). I wouldnt seriously hurt you or anything, but I would toss you an arse whopp'n.
Really, have you read what your wrote? The very same "attitudes" you are accusing the folks over at ECA of, you display.

This whole "recruiting" thing is stupid. You can blah blah blah about how it is in Texas from now on. That does not change the fact that ECA is a Louisiana school. So if they were located in Texas, it would be by Texas rules. They are located in Louisiana so they go by Louisiana rules. LHSAA never said they cant get students the way they always have (like it or not, agree or not) all they said was "you have to play in 1A". You say they don't have any right to be in 5A. That's your opinion. I think if a school can play on that level, then so be it. Lowering the standard doesnt make the sport (or whatever) better. It just means that everybody is going to suck on the same level.

The entire states doesnt hate ECA. Just the public schools, they cant beat 'em.

You cant possibly think that Lv. plays ECA all the time just to beat them. There are schools in Texas that would play them and would lose to them.

I really think you are just the lone idiot really. You talk and it's all a jumbled mess of stupidity that comes out. Get over it already.

You whined about "intentionally this and that". It's football for crying out loud. It is rough, tough, and rumble. It's not soccer or ice skating. It's football. The game is meant to be rowdy. If you cant handle, then dont play. There is no shame in not wanting to get your butt kicked week in and week out. I like HS ball over any other because of the fact that kids generally dont give a crap and they beat the crap out of each other. They are just trying to impress people and not pay bills and such. It's more fun to watch. The rougher the better. I am the product of tv and movies. Violence is beautiful and anger is a gift.

Oh yeah. This is kind of off the point. But you said "cursing". Are you black?
That question has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion, this board, or anybody. I am just working on a thing about how people use certain words in certain contexts and other people stereotype them because of it.
Really, I am not being an *** or anything, I'm just curious.
thanks.





TexasFrog. The leg shaving thing. Uh..haha.. I started noticing that too a few years back. As I understand it, they shave pretty much everywhere. I have no idea why and cant get a real answer from anyone. I have noticed that it is most of the "jocks" at almost every school in Shreveport. Weird to me. The only thing I'm gonna shave is my head and that is because I am too lazy to get up and fix my hair in the mornings.

[LGVAg]

Once again, there is a big difference in debating on an online forum and going out and claiming I play with sportsmanship and class, and then showing another thing. Lufkin refused to play against ECA any more, and Tyler Lee won't play them at all because of their antics on the field. Last year I can remember Texas High getting so fed up with things that they all jumped on Duron at the end of the game (which I don't condone either) but apparantly ECA did something or another to deserve it. I've heard that quite a bit of LA teams don't play them either because of that.

Oh, and I'll be at that game, but any time you want to go, you just let me know when and where. I'm glad to know that you're getting mad enough over an online forum and a football discussion to want to fight. Like I said, leave it to ECA. I guess there is some strange aggressiveness that can only be taught there. I guess I'm getting under your skin enough, though, for you to resort to insulting me personally and such....

Once again, you rambled on and on about the recruiting. I said ECA recruits. You said they aren't breaking any rules. I never said they were breaking rules, yet you accused me of saying that. I'd like to see where I said that ECA is or was breaking any rules. All I said was that they recruit and you got all pissed. And apparently ECA DOESN'T have any business in 5A. That's why they are playing against 1A teams like they should have been all along. You're absolutely right, ECA doesn't play by the rules of Texas, they play by the rules of LA, which means that they are 1A whether you like it or not.

Oh, and I have friends who go to Holy Cross High School who, if I'm not mistaken, is also a private school, and they hate ECA as well. Like I said earlier, the state of LA hates ECA, as thousands show up to cheer against them. Heck, I remember meeting some Ruston fans who showed up to watch us own you guys in 2003, and some Neville fans as well. Oh, and apparently public schools CAN beat ECA. Springdale, Longview, Abilene all beat ECA last year, and this year Texas freaking High did. All of those are public schools... So much for the comment about public schools not being able to beat ECA. Maybe LA public teams can't but I know I've seen West Monroe do it, and they are public, so...

You're absolutely right, it's football, a game that is meant to be tough and rough. ECA is a very physical team, and I have no problem with that. I played against them (but we won haha) and they were hard hitters and all. I have absolutely no problem with it... Between the whistles. However, it ISN'T football to punch people after plays, curse at them, swear, use racial remarks and slurs, start fights, and all sorts of other things. I saw all of those things when we played them last year.

Between the whistles, I respect ECA as a football team. After the whistles and off the field, I don't. Oh, and I played football for Longview, but I liked to play with something we call class and sportsmanship, and I let my helmet do the talking between the whistles, not cheap hits after the play. The game is meant to be rowdy and tough, not to be played with poor sportsmanship and after plays.

And to answer your question, I'm white.

[Redneckn]

I'm not mad. It's not a mad thing at all. It is a stupid thing. But as for your when and where thing.. haha.. I love it when people say that.. It makes me smile a little. I'm just on here having fun with you while i'm downloading music.
I really honestly couldnt give a crap if you or anyone else likes ECA.

But really though. If all these teams hate ECA so much why do they continue to schedule games? And that "so we can beat them" thing is crap and you know it.
You were beating around the bush about the breaking rules thing. Apologies for my assuming.

TH kids jumping all over Duron. I know the kid and there may have been some "extra" licks thrown in the game, but I cant see him doing it. So for them to jump on him? Why? Oh, because he was the QB. Talk about cheap shots...
And the crap about La teams not playing them because of all the accusations. It is just that, crap. They may say that, but I know it to be false. La teams wont play them (unless they have to) because of the stomping they get. Would you want to play a team constantly if you knew you were going to loose? I'd think not. And we are talking about winning games. I mean beatings. The first year ECA was 5A, they outscored just the La teams 577-214. All of those teams were 5A except JohnCurtis, they were 4A. They beat Sarah Reed (of new orleans) 74-20. That was playoff game. They may have a lot of reasons to hate ECA, but mostly it is because they cannot beat them. Not to say that no La team has beat them because they have. But not with any consistancy. I think it just burns folks butts because here is a school with just over 200 in high school stomping the crap outta 5A schools. And they are a private. and worse, a Christian private. Do you really think a team that has a consistant record of beating the crap out of 5A teams needs to be playing 1A schools. Some of the 1A's they are set to play just barely have enough kids to field a team. I just can't convince myself that that is where they belong. Me personally, I think I would rather the privates be forced into their own league. ECA would dominate there as well, but at least people could shut up and move on.
Yes, publics can beat them though. And you're right, Longview, TexasHigh, Springdale, and Abilene are amongst those that have beat them.

So yes, they are in 1A currently. That will soon be changing though. They will have to remain in 1A for 2 years though. After that, it will be back to business again.

You are just so overwhelmed with what you have "heard" and how all these people show up to cheer against them. I have gone to most games and I havent seen these thousands show up to cheer against them. Unless, it was fans from the team they were playing. And even then, thousands? most teams cant muster up those kinds of numbers. Not in La.


Ya know, this whole conversation is stupid really. But I'm sure it comes off as me trying to change your mind. I'm not trying to do that btw. I guess it just irritates me that you are so willing to come on here talking a bunch of crap you know nothing about and have "heard". To me, that is just careless and it bothers me. I don't do that. I do however say things that are directly insulting to people because the reaction is worth a million bucks most of the time. People are so serious about stuff.

I dont really know why people hate ECA so much. It's odd to me. Because nobody really has an answer that will hold water for very long.
I dont care to sit and argue about much anymore either due to its complete pointlessness. And I don't want to meet you someone sometime and all that. If I was really mad about it, I would have already knocked on your door selling tupperware or something and then SURPRISE!.. I'm not a fighter. It doesnt really solve anything.

Are you the A-hole from Longview that cut the tires on my tan GMC truck at the game last year? I hope not. Because that was just wrong.

Also, you're white and you said "curse". That sir, is odd. But thanks for telling me.

[LGVAg]

Alright, well good, that's settled then. It's been fun... discussing football with you, and I guess I did make some claims that I've only HEARD about and not seen, but I did see Ruston and Neville fans show up in 2003 on our side, and I THINK I remember seeing like 49,000 people show up for last year's state championship game.

But I doubt ECA will be allowed back into 5A. They were put in 1A for a reason, and I doubt they'd be let back into 5A, but you never know. I'd like to wish you good luck getting back into 5A, but I know I wouldn't be sincere, so try your hardest lol...

[bleedgreen]

cmon guys....the "recruiting" subject is wayyyyyyyyyy played out......ECA has my respect.....i've *****ed about the ref situation many times, but the program that ECA has speaks for itsself.....multiple state titles, national titles---whether or not that you like them, you have to give these guys their due respect......i can't stand OU, but they definitely have my respect....don't have any for those stinking Aggies, though---LOL....................

[LPanther]

Evangel pulls off upset over Longview.......24-20.

[pack0808]

Longview wins 45-7

[Redneckn]

Longview wins 45-7

Thank you for making me fall out of my chair. That's funny. :D :D :D
Lets not get carried away though. I think the score will be the other way around.


but, that all depends on how the recruiting of brett favre went this week.

[LGVAg]

cmon guys....the "recruiting" subject is wayyyyyyyyyy played out......ECA has my respect.....i've *****ed about the ref situation many times, but the program that ECA has speaks for itsself.....multiple state titles, national titles---whether or not that you like them, you have to give these guys their due respect......i can't stand OU, but they definitely have my respect....don't have any for those stinking Aggies, though---LOL....................


ECA has never won a national title.

[pack0808]

Thank you for making me fall out of my chair. That's funny. :D :D :D
Lets not get carried away though. I think the score will be the other way around.


but, that all depends on how the recruiting of brett favre went this week.


Why would that score prediction be shocking?? A 4a Texarkana team blew out this 05 Evangel team just last week and Texarkana has nothing on Longview. Nothing!! John Tyler beat Texarkana the week before and they were 1-9 the year before. That score is very reasonable in my opiniion and not to mention it is at Longview. It could definitely happen. To think Evangel will win is what is funny!! :eek: Longview will easily win 4 in a row vs Evangel. Yall better end the series after this pounding and stick to 1a school's because yall are officially off the map as a football power if you get blown out for the 3rd week in a row in my opinion. It is over!!

[c-lisle]

Why would that score prediction be shocking?? A 4a Texarkana team blew out this 05 Evangel team just last week and Texarkana has nothing on Longview. Nothing!! John Tyler beat Texarkana the week before and they were 1-9 the year before. That score is very reasonable in my opiniion and not to mention it is at Longview. It could definitely happen. To think Evangel will win is what is funny!! :eek: Longview will easily win 4 in a row vs Evangel. Yall better end the series after this pounding and stick to 1a school's because yall are officially off the map as a football power if you get blown out for the 3rd week in a row in my opinion. It is over!!

I think he was joking...I think I have seen him post somewhere that he thinks ECA will lose. I hope he is joking. If Lview loses tonight I will be very disppointed. I hope to see the second stringers midway through 3rd qtr.

[Redneckn]

Why would that score prediction be shocking?? A 4a Texarkana team blew out this 05 Evangel team just last week and Texarkana has nothing on Longview. Nothing!! John Tyler beat Texarkana the week before and they were 1-9 the year before. That score is very reasonable in my opiniion and not to mention it is at Longview. It could definitely happen. To think Evangel will win is what is funny!! :eek: Longview will easily win 4 in a row vs Evangel. Yall better end the series after this pounding and stick to 1a school's because yall are officially off the map as a football power if you get blown out for the 3rd week in a row in my opinion. It is over!!


Since today is game day I'm gonna respond. First thing, I was kinda kidding. I think Longview will win. I dont think it will be 45-7 though. It will be closer than that. Not real close though.
ECA is having an off year. I was just (really, just now) running some numbers. Last year, ECA outscored their opponents 528-236, won 5A title in Louisiana. Lost to a very good Springdale team, a good Longview team, and a good Abilene team. They just barely scraped by TH (4A). I think they are having a bad year. Every team has one now and again. When you figure how ECA has outscored everyone (as a whole) a little better than 2 to 1 in its 16 years of playing ball, I think they can be considered a contender until they have about 3 years of not being able to hang.
Just my opinion though.

LGVAg. ECA has a national title. I think it was 1999. It was right around the time they went 60-0. Berlin was QB.

[pack0808]

I know about all of Evangel's record but it is obvious this team is going down hill in a hurry. If they keep losing like this to big time teams around the state nobody is going to want to schedule them anymore. What would be the point??

[Redneckn]

I know about all of Evangel's record but it is obvious this team is going down hill in a hurry. If they keep losing like this to big time teams around the state nobody is going to want to schedule them anymore. What would be the point??


You act like they have a loosing record. Yes, they have a losing record this year against "good" teams. They will dominate in 1A and then they will start the rebuild process. Teams will want to play at some level anyway. Once they get their ducks in a row again, good teams will want to play them again. Being in 1A sucks, but it really is not the end of the world. They had good (non 1A) teams wanting to play them when they were 1A to start with. It will happen again. I have complete faith in ECA, in football, and the fine teams of Texas.

[pack0808]

If you say so?? I just have a hard time believing Evangel will be the same now that they are on 1a. It just looks like they are on a downward spiral. They would have never dreamed losing 2 games like they have in the last weeks in their best days. No way!! And i do not care who they played. I think you might be in denial but you know what?? You know a lot lot lot more about Evangel and their situation then i do.

[bleedgreen]

Evangel pulls off upset over Longview.......24-20.
you know, they say "crack kills"----better slow down, LPanther---looks like you may be heading that direction with that ridiculous post............................

[pack0808]

you know, they say "crack kills"----better slow down, LPanther---looks like you may be heading that direction with that ridiculous post............................


Bleed, that was almost as ridiculous as you saying Nac would beat Lufkin tonight but not close. :D :D

[bleedgreen]

true, true----i thought that you guys would get a kick out of that--LOL......love to stir the pot sometimes, i guess--LOL..............Lufkin 70, Nac-0.....i've come to my senses now......................

[Redneckn]

Bleed. Is the game going to be on the internet somewhere tonite? There is just no way I can be in Longview by game time. or games end for that matter. I dont trust KEEL to get it online so I am looking for another way. Otherwise, moms is going to have to call me and then put the cellfone down in front of the radio guys. NOT something I want to do.

[ThEgReAtOnE]

Does anyone know anything about some Dallas Jesuit vs (Ohio) Moeller 1978 football game?

I know Moeller beat them, but was Jesuit any good? Were they the best team in state?

[bleedgreen]

i'm not sure, Redneckin?? the guy that would be able to answer that is Lobofan07....i guess you can e-mail or private message him and he would tell you......

[Texasfrog]

Does anyone know anything about some Dallas Jesuit vs (Ohio) Moeller 1978 football game?

I know Moeller beat them, but was Jesuit any good? Were they the best team in state?

I know they played about 30 years ago in Ohio. I believe that Moeller was one of the top #3 teams in Ohio and Dallas Jesuit wasnt much in Texas. I'm sure there was about 30 Texas public schools that would of destroyed Dallas Jesuit in the 70's.

[c-lisle]

Bleed. Is the game going to be on the internet somewhere tonite? There is just no way I can be in Longview by game time. or games end for that matter. I dont trust KEEL to get it online so I am looking for another way. Otherwise, moms is going to have to call me and then put the cellfone down in front of the radio guys. NOT something I want to do.

The games aren't broadcast on the internet yet. Redfishcasting.com provides Lobo games on the internet for $9.95. Your next best bet will be checking various HS football websites to see of anyone in Lview is at home on the computer listening to the game on the radio.

[Redneckn]

Well.. According to RocknRick back in Shreveport I will be able to watch the game from the internet. So we will see if that happens or not.. I sure hope so.

anybody interested. the link should be at
www.evangelsports.com

[dragonsdaddy]

I know they played about 30 years ago in Ohio. I believe that Moeller was one of the top #3 teams in Ohio and Dallas Jesuit wasnt much in Texas. I'm sure there was about 30 Texas public schools that would of destroyed Dallas Jesuit in the 70's.
there were 30 in n texas that would have had their way with jesuit. it was way bogus.