View Full Version : What Is The Most Complex Aspect Of The Nfl Offensive Game???
SLC DRAGON
02-06-2007, 01:09 AM
what part of the game really sets the NFL above all other levels?
speed, size, plays, ability.
i think the one thing that does it is the number of personel packages that they role in. the use of 4 recievers, 2 fullbacks, 2-3 TE, and 2-3 runningbacks is just a ton of guys to study each week for a defense.
jtk1519
02-06-2007, 01:32 AM
The audibles and changes made at the line of scrimmage. There are a lot of college teams that employ the exact same formations, personnel groupings and even plays as an NFL offense, but what most of them lack are the complex pre-snap reads you see from the better NFL offenses (Indy, New England, New Orleans, etc.). Most of the burden of that complexity is felt by the QB whose job it is to make the reads, change the play and direct the rest of the offense accordingly. Nebraska and Notre Dame probably have the most complicated pre-snap offenses, but even they are toned down a bit from the NFL.
SLC DRAGON
02-06-2007, 02:49 AM
that is a good point at the college level the play that is called is almost always the play that is run with the QB maybe calling 1 hot rout. if you watch manning he changes the whole damn play in 3 seconds.
I did not think of that.
G-Man
02-06-2007, 10:38 AM
that is a good point at the college level the play that is called is almost always the play that is run with the QB maybe calling 1 hot rout. if you watch manning he changes the whole damn play in 3 seconds.
I did not think of that.
Yes, and as the QB audibles and the receivers run read routes, the DB's also have to audible coverages and checks before and in the middle of the play. That's how receivers get so wide open. Somebody misses a check.
In high school everyone plays. In college only the talented play. In the pros must be talented and smart. (except RB's):)
t-long20
02-06-2007, 09:28 PM
Yes, and as the QB audibles and the receivers run read routes, the DB's also have to audible coverages and checks before and in the middle of the play. That's how receivers get so wide open. Somebody misses a check.
In high school everyone plays. In college only the talented play. In the pros must be talented and smart. (except RB's):)
nfl has more of a mental aspect if anything the game is alot faster which means you have to think alot faster.
KT2000
02-09-2007, 11:29 AM
Everything about the NFL is complex. Just watch the combine every year, and look at how the players are totally picked apart pre-draft.
I'd pay good money to see Mike Leach and his little 3*5 notecard on an NFL sideline.
FeeltheHaka
02-13-2007, 11:20 AM
nfl has more of a mental aspect if anything the game is alot faster which means you have to think alot faster.
I have a question on this. I hear that the NFL game is faster than college. But, when I watch it on TV or a live game, it just doesn't look that way. It sometimes seems slower than high school at times. I hear NFL players all the time say it is faster. Is it just that all the players are bigger, that it looks slower? I can say that from the huddle to lining up it is definately slower.
Crank_It
02-13-2007, 02:11 PM
I have a question on this. I hear that the NFL game is faster than college. But, when I watch it on TV or a live game, it just doesn't look that way. It sometimes seems slower than high school at times. I hear NFL players all the time say it is faster. Is it just that all the players are bigger, that it looks slower? I can say that from the huddle to lining up it is definately slower.
its more of an effort than actual game speed. college players are hoping one day to play in the pro's so they have something to strive for (national championships, heisman or other awards and high nfl draft projections), more of a drive. nfl'ers are getting paid and have pretty much proved their worth (aside from rookies) so it seems as if theyre content on just goin out there and playing like its just a job.
t-long20
02-13-2007, 08:52 PM
I have a question on this. I hear that the NFL game is faster than college. But, when I watch it on TV or a live game, it just doesn't look that way. It sometimes seems slower than high school at times. I hear NFL players all the time say it is faster. Is it just that all the players are bigger, that it looks slower? I can say that from the huddle to lining up it is definately slower.
you must be kidding..trust me the nfl is alot faster than high school and college i dont care if there getting paid millions they still got a job to do or someones gonna replace them
Sicemhorns09
02-14-2007, 03:55 PM
Everything about the NFL is complex. Just watch the combine every year, and look at how the players are totally picked apart pre-draft.
I'd pay good money to see Mike Leach and his little 3*5 notecard on an NFL sideline.
yea, im not even sure how he pulls that one off...i was coaching a intramural football team for a sorority this past fall, and one note card would not do the trick!!
Mhs06
02-14-2007, 04:08 PM
yea, im not even sure how he pulls that one off...i was coaching a intramural football team for a sorority this past fall, and one note card would not do the trick!!
Hes a genius, thats why. :p
svfootball45
03-13-2007, 06:13 PM
have you ever heard some of the plays peyton manning calls remembering one play on the colts would be more difficult than learning an entire high school team offense
cyfallsgoalie31
03-13-2007, 07:32 PM
have you ever heard some of the plays peyton manning calls remembering one play on the colts would be more difficult than learning an entire high school team offense
i dont know where i heard it but manning calls 3 plays in the huddle. a run to the left, a run to the right and a passing play.
im kinda surprised more qbs havent developed something like this, or if they had, i havent heard of it.
RocklandDragon
04-05-2007, 02:52 AM
I have a question on this. I hear that the NFL game is faster than college. But, when I watch it on TV or a live game, it just doesn't look that way. It sometimes seems slower than high school at times. I hear NFL players all the time say it is faster. Is it just that all the players are bigger, that it looks slower? I can say that from the huddle to lining up it is definately slower.
Seeing college players live...that's great. College players are skilled athletes.
Seeing pro players live...it's downright ridiculous how skilled these players are. How fast they run through the field. How hard they plow through an offensive line. They are damn fast in person. I mean every player, lineman, linebacker, RB, etc....except for Drew Bledsoe...
:D
Firebird
04-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Seeing college players live...that's great. College players are skilled athletes.
Seeing pro players live...it's downright ridiculous how skilled these players are. How fast they run through the field. How hard they plow through an offensive line. They are damn fast in person. I mean every player, lineman, linebacker, RB, etc....except for Drew Bledsoe...
:D
Yeah...I've had the privilege to see one Cowboys game in person, and that was exactly what I thought...."These guys are fast". Even the o-lineman, maybe not fast but quick, it is incredible how they explode off the line. It took my eyes a while to adjust to the game at that speed.
North Texas Football
04-09-2007, 05:35 PM
Adjustments to the speed are significant. It is defintely a different angle on every play from college. The most complex aspect of an NFL offense, in my opinion, is what happens after the huddle is broken. Audibles, checks, reads, etc. are very in depth and are based on a variety of factors; have to be made in less than 25 seconds; and must be communicated to all 11 players.
Favpack
04-09-2007, 05:58 PM
It sure seems to be speed to me in a simplistic way. It took VY about 10 games to get used to it, but he definitely adapted. Some never do like Ryan Leaf, etc. (long list of etc's). It seems the great running backs like Reggie Bush adapt quickest.
Plus, it seems the higher the level at any sport, but, particularly football, the more mental toughness and mental execution, if you will, comes into play. Look at David Carr - he deteriorated every year mentally - as has Michael Vick.
ken-in-rockwall
04-10-2007, 12:14 PM
Yeah...I've had the privilege to see one Cowboys game in person, and that was exactly what I thought...."These guys are fast". Even the o-lineman, maybe not fast but quick, it is incredible how they explode off the line. It took my eyes a while to adjust to the game at that speed.
I think you nailed with the QUICKNESS that the players are both physically and mentally. They have to move or react to other players quickly but must make mental adjustments based on reads, audibles and situations.
I asked my father-in-law (OL/DL for Detroit Lions) about it and that was the main thing he said was the need for quickness, then speed and being able to adjust and react based on your conditioning (practice, film, etc.).
svfootball45
06-19-2007, 09:02 PM
I think you nailed with the QUICKNESS that the players are both physically and mentally. They have to move or react to other players quickly but must make mental adjustments based on reads, audibles and situations.
I asked my father-in-law (OL/DL for Detroit Lions) about it and that was the main thing he said was the need for quickness, then speed and being able to adjust and react based on your conditioning (practice, film, etc.).
getting to the nfl is pretty complicated
RocketTRN
06-23-2007, 03:19 PM
Seeing college players live...that's great. College players are skilled athletes.
Seeing pro players live...it's downright ridiculous how skilled these players are. How fast they run through the field. How hard they plow through an offensive line. They are damn fast in person. I mean every player, lineman, linebacker, RB, etc....except for Drew Bledsoe...
:D
and Vinny Testicle
Humblefied
06-23-2007, 11:54 PM
i dont know where i heard it but manning calls 3 plays in the huddle. a run to the left, a run to the right and a passing play.
im kinda surprised more qbs havent developed something like this, or if they had, i havent heard of it.
Well, I suspect that most teams have a couple of plays they have on audible that they can call anytime in the game.
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