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RATTLERS316
02-03-2007, 11:12 AM
good luck to him...he made a good impression on me this year:)

Westlake's Foles rehabs shoulder after Brees-like surgery
Arizona State commitment's shoulder repaired by same doctor who fixed Brees'.
By Rick Cantu

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Saturday, February 03, 2007

The constant pain that shot through Nick Foles' body was almost unbearable by the time the Westlake quarterback reached the Class 5A state championship game.

Foles, this past season's Central Texas player of the year, played nearly the entire year with a serious shoulder injury. He felt a jolt of sharp needles every time he released the football in Westlake's 43-29 championship game loss to Southlake Carroll.

'He's anxious to throw the football again,' physical therapist Lori Schwanz says of Nick Foles. 'Sometimes I have to pull in the reins.'

Westlake QB Nick Foles played nearly the entire 2006 season with a serious shoulder injury.

He played on, however, completing 24 of his 43 passes for 299 yards and a touchdown — a remarkable performance, considering he was playing with a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder.

"At one point, my shoulder came out of its socket," Foles recalled. "The pain went through my body and to the right side of my brain."

This week, nearly six weeks after he threw his final pass, Foles was busy pedaling a stationary bike at an Austin rehabilitation clinic. The black sling that he's required to wear every day had been tossed to the floor. Under the watchful eye of physical therapist Lori Schwanz, Foles — who will sign a scholarship on Wednesday with Arizona State — is in the first stage of a four-month process to come back from shoulder surgery to repair ligaments and tendons.

"Look how skinny my arm is," Foles said, curling a three-pound weight.

"It's muscle atrophy," Schwanz explained, the result of his arm being physically inactive for more than a month.

Foles has lost 10 pounds since having surgery three weeks ago in Birmingham, Ala. to repair the torn labrum. The 90-minute procedure was done by renowned orthopedic surgeon Dr. James Andrews, the same doctor who repaired Drew Brees' shoulder in January 2006.

Call it a Westlake connection.

It was Brees himself — the quarterback of Westlake's 1996 state championship team — who notified Dr. Andrews when he learned of Foles' injury. After a few phone calls from Brees, Foles was off to the American Sports Medicine Institute in Birmingham to meet the surgeon whose list of clients includes Brees, Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb and baseball pitchers John Smoltz, Kerry Wood and Roger Clemens.

"The parallels between Drew and Nick are amazing," Andrews said. "They have the same temperament, the same motivation. Good athletes are in that mold. This young kid is in the mold of Drew Brees."

Brees' recovery has been well chronicled. He sustained a 360-degree tear of his labrum — which required 11 surgical anchors, while only three or four are usually required — in his final game with the San Diego Chargers in 2005.

Foles knew his labrum was injured but did not know the severity of it until he went to Alabama. The labrum, a ring of cartilage that surrounds the entry to the shoulder joint, was almost completely torn. He needed eight surgical anchors to complete the operation.

Foles committed to Arizona State last spring. The Sun Devils are expected to sign another quarterback — Chasen Stangel of San Jacinto, Calif. — on Wednesday, and returning starter Rudy Carpenter will be a junior this fall. New Sun Devils coach Dennis Erickson and offensive coordinator Rich Olson visited Foles in Austin last week.

"I'll be honest. I was actually excited to have surgery," said Foles, who needed the operation in order to play again.

Foles' father, Larry, suspected something was wrong as he watched his son's passing mechanics toward the last half of football season. Originally hurt during a 31-24 loss to Austin High on Sept. 29, Foles began releasing the football near his ear rather than over his head.

Still, the quarterback did not disclose the extent of his shoulder pain to his family or team, fearing a bad diagnosis might force him to miss the remainder of the season. As Westlake won game after game in the playoffs, his desire to play negated his need for medical attention, he said.

"I kept telling the trainers I was fine, (that) I can handle it," Foles said.

The Chaparrals rallied from two District 25-5A losses by catching fire in the playoffs, winning four games before falling to Southlake Carroll in the Division I championship game. Foles threw for 3,266 yards and 32 touchdowns this season, passing Brees' career marks at Westlake for passing yards and touchdowns.

"My shoulder popped (against Austin High) and my arm felt dead," Foles said. "I was praying nothing was torn. I tried to tell myself that everything was fine and just play through it.

"If you watched me during the season, I was always throwing the ball on the sideline just to keep warm."

Foles goes through physical therapy three times a week. Schwanz described him as an "overachiever."

"He's anxious to throw the football again," she said. "Sometimes I have to pull in the reins and tell him his limitations."

That should tell you how tough Foles is, Andrews said.

"I think this kid is going to make me look pretty good," he said. "I'm sure he'll be a big-time college player, and maybe we'll see him on Sundays someday."

rcantu@statesman.com; 445-3953

Pearland 06
02-03-2007, 12:08 PM
I agree - I hope he recovers because he impressed me more than any other individual I saw all year. And no, that's not a shot at anybody, that's a very big compliment to Foles.

crawford86
02-03-2007, 05:16 PM
he'll pull through, but hes actually undecided now cuz he decommited from ASU. Could Texas pull it off? lol

Grapeguy
02-03-2007, 09:26 PM
The constant pain that shot through Nick Foles' body was almost unbearable by the time the Westlake quarterback reached the Class 5A state championship game.

Foles, this past season's Central Texas player of the year, played nearly the entire year with a serious shoulder injury. He felt a jolt of sharp needles every time he released the football in Westlake's 43-29 championship game loss to Southlake Carroll.

He played on, however, completing 24 of his 43 passes for 299 yards and a touchdown — a remarkable performance, considering he was playing with a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder.

"At one point, my shoulder came out of its socket," Foles recalled. "The pain went through my body and to the right side of my brain."


I don't recall reading any reports of this injury in the pre-game press of the state championship game. Was it pretty much kept under wraps by the WL coaches and trainers?

Anyhow, with this bit of information, I've reconsidered my opinion of Fole's game performance. It wasn't just impressive, it was amazing.

FarmerFootballPlayer
02-03-2007, 11:28 PM
You mean... He did all of that in the title game with a severely torn shoulder? :eek:

Dare I say that Nick Foles' shoulder > RD's puke?

my3sons
02-04-2007, 01:50 AM
You mean... He did all of that in the title game with a severely torn shoulder? :eek:

Dare I say that Nick Foles' shoulder > RD's puke?

Except on the scoreboard.:D

raider4life9898
02-04-2007, 09:19 AM
wait so where is he going to go? Texas already took their quarterback in G.J. Kinne. On other sites it says he has no interest in any schools with offers from UTEP, Duke, and Ole Miss. anyone have any insight to what college will be for him?

TrueBlue
02-04-2007, 10:47 AM
it is being reported on another message board that Foles is decommitting from ASU because the coaches were not honest with him --

WestlakeChaps
02-04-2007, 04:39 PM
Westlake QB Foles says no to Sun Devils
He says coaches were dishonest about other quarterback recruits

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Sunday, February 04, 2007

Westlake quarterback Nick Foles has withdrawn his commitment to play football for Arizona State — just three days shy of national signing day.

Foles said the Sun Devils had been "dishonest" with him regarding the incoming class of recruits. Foles said Arizona State coaches didn't tell him they were pursuing a third quarterback, Samson Szakacsy of Camarillo, Calif. The Sun Devils already had commitments from Foles and Chasen Stangel of San Jacinto, Calif.

Szakacsy has committed to Southern California, but he visited ASU last week, and new Sun Devils coach Dennis Erickson hopes to sign him on Wednesday.

"This is a huge disappointment because I really wanted to go to Arizona State," Foles said. "It just didn't work out."

Foles had shoulder surgery three weeks ago in Birmingham, Ala., to repair a torn labrum. Despite playing with the injury for much of this past season, he was named the American-Statesman's Central Texas Player of the Year after passing for 3,266 yards and 32 touchdowns. He said Baylor and Michigan State have expressed interest in signing him, but he wants to see if other schools offer him a scholarship.

Larry Foles told The Arizona Republic his son might not go on scholarship or become a full-time student until January 2008, at which point his five-year period of athletic eligibility would begin under NCAA rules.

"He never would have gone somewhere with three quarterbacks (in the same class)," Larry Foles said. "He wants to go somewhere where he feels wanted."

Texasfrog
02-04-2007, 04:45 PM
I thought something was kinda funny when ASU got a verbal commit from another highly rated QB this past week. I was like "What's up."

I think ASU coaching staff is completely "INSANE" for what they are doing. They must not of seen Foles play football.:rolleyes:

Oh Well, their (ASU) loss and somebody elses gain. Just keep him away from Oklahoma. That's all I ask.

Heck, Mack Brown needs to give the kid a scholarship "right now." If I was Mack Brown I would have him sitting in my office.

ScottS
02-04-2007, 05:01 PM
I think the problem here is that ASU had a coaching chaning in the last month or so. Erickson, the new coach there, is going after different players and getting some. It sounds like Foles is not too keen on this and will head elsewhere. Who knows, maybe he ends up at A&M, Tech, or Baylor.

TXFOOSBALL
02-04-2007, 05:28 PM
ID say north Texas

Sakatha
02-04-2007, 06:09 PM
Good kid, and a great QB. I hope he recovers nicely.

~DnM

ACM Dad
02-04-2007, 08:54 PM
I had that surgery a year ago. That's a painful one to recover from. Good luck Nick.

I hope we can keep him in TX to play college ball so I get a chance to watch him a bit more. I am surprised though about the ASU change.

Sicemhorns09
02-05-2007, 03:29 PM
Reports have Foles signing with either Michigan State or Baylor

badger95
02-05-2007, 03:41 PM
look for a bunch of schools to jump in on this one, espcecially after signing day. Remember, Miami just lost a committment from Fanuzzi, so they could quickly move in as could Oklahoma who is not completely satisfied with their current QB committments.

Sicemhorns09
02-05-2007, 03:49 PM
look for a bunch of schools to jump in on this one, espcecially after signing day. Remember, Miami just lost a committment from Fanuzzi, so they could quickly move in as could Oklahoma who is not completely satisfied with their current QB committments.

What hurts Foles in the eyes of schools like OU and Miami is the fact that he had shoulder surgery...this is a very similiar situation to another Westlake QB....Mr Brees. Im hoping for Baylor to sign him...it seems that most from Westlake either come here or to UT

Texasfrog
02-05-2007, 03:53 PM
Foles should look for a school that runs a very well balanced (Pro style offense). I think with a few years of playing D-1A football on a solid team that runs a Pro style offense. He would develop into a 1st Day NFL draft pick.

He has the size and arm strength of a legit NFL QB "Right now."

It's almost scary thinking that he looked that good with a freaking injury. That just seals the deal more with me that he is the "REAL DEAL.":D

fb#1
02-05-2007, 03:58 PM
Baylor recruiting is a joke, they need help in this department. A lot of kids turn them down because of the way they recruit. Kids are really let down after meeting or talking to the recruiters. They will not get a quarterback of that quality.

ScottS
02-05-2007, 04:02 PM
Baylor recruiting is a joke, they need help in this department. A lot of kids turn them down because of the way they recruit. Kids are really let down after meeting or talking to the recruiters. They will not get a quarterback of that quality.

So you think he is headed to Michigan State?

Sicemhorns09
02-05-2007, 04:39 PM
Baylor recruiting is a joke, they need help in this department. A lot of kids turn them down because of the way they recruit. Kids are really let down after meeting or talking to the recruiters. They will not get a quarterback of that quality.

That is why we just signed a stud 4* linebacker... if you are going to make claims like that...back it up

fb#1
02-05-2007, 05:06 PM
Claims do not need to be made. This is just a fact, they are not aggressive for recruits. Great, they got some. They can not even keep a committment from a coaches son on staff at Baylor. He dropped Baylor, and went to Texas. Baylor has not recovered from the Grant Teaff days. That man is a legend. They just can not seem to come back to that level. Recruiting is were it starts.

Sicemhorns09
02-05-2007, 05:38 PM
Claims do not need to be made. This is just a fact, they are not aggressive for recruits. Great, they got some. They can not even keep a committment from a coaches son on staff at Baylor. He dropped Baylor, and went to Texas. Baylor has not recovered from the Grant Teaff days. That man is a legend. They just can not seem to come back to that level. Recruiting is were it starts.

If you make a claim, you need a warrant...it is simple logic... i understand that you made a claim, but by no means is that fact if you cant back it up...As for Kinne...this was an odd situation... Kinne's parents were divorced...his dad lives in Waco, and his mother lives in Gilmer...rumors have been going around that the his mother influenced greatly in his choice of UT over BU

raider4life9898
02-05-2007, 07:32 PM
To those who think Miami for Foles is the anwser I would find that hard to believe. Miami picked up Robert Marve of Tampa Plant. Who happens to be the most underrated quarterback even though he is a 4 star player. Not many people talk about him, but he might just be up there in the top couple in the country. I question his de-commit this late in the process. I think that it either shows some ego problems or just maybe the coaches were being *****. I'm not sure either way but the story is just so strange to hear about.

fb#1
02-06-2007, 12:11 PM
Thanks for the warrant

WestlakeChaps
02-06-2007, 12:20 PM
Westlake's Foles not expected to sign on Signing Day
After pulling commitment from Arizona State, Foles will wait to consider college options.
By Rick Cantu
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Tuesday, February 06, 2007

After an abrupt change of heart Saturday, Westlake quarterback Nick Foles — who decommitted from Arizona State — is not planning to sign with a college on Wednesday, national signing day, his father said Monday.

Foles, this past season's Central Texas player of the year, "wants to weigh his options" before making a decision, Larry Foles said.

Several schools have shown interest since Westlake quarterback and Central Texas player of the year Nick Foles (above) pulled out of his commitment to Arizona State last weekend, the player's father said. Those schools include Baylor, Louisiana Tech and Michigan State.

Several schools have shown interest since the 6-foot-5-inch Foles pulled out of his commitment to Arizona State last weekend, Larry Foles said. Those schools include Baylor, Louisiana Tech and Michigan State.

Some Big 12 schools also have contacted the quarterback, but Larry Foles declined to say which ones. The family planned to send game films to Michigan State on Monday, he said.

Foles backed out of his pledge to Arizona State after he learned that the Sun Devils had made a scholarship offer to a third quarterback prospect, Samson Szakacsy of Camarillo, Calif. Szakacsy, who had previously committed to Southern California, formally switched to Arizona State on Sunday.

Foles, who originally committed to Arizona State last May, had been told by Sun Devil coaches that the school was pursuing only two quarterbacks this year, Foles and Chasen Stangel of San Jacinto, Calif., Larry Foles said.

Stangel is ranked by Scout. com as the No. 3 quarterback in California; Szakacsy is rated seventh.

Foles' decision to decommit is tricky since most colleges already have decided or are close to deciding their entire list of recruits to sign.

One option for Foles would be to choose a school, then grayshirt this fall, meaning he would not go to the school on scholarship or even become a full-time student until January 2008. That's when his five-year NCAA eligibility clock would begin.

"If we learned anything about this, it's that Nick committed too early," Larry Foles said. "When Nick committed to Arizona State, all the recruiting stopped. If Arizona State had three quarterbacks come in, I promise you one would have transferred before the first game."

When Foles committed to Arizona State, the Sun Devils were coached by Dirk Koetter, who was fired last fall and replaced by Dennis Erickson in December.

Despite playing most of the 2006 season with a major shoulder injury, Foles still threw for 3,266 games and 32 touchdowns, leading Westlake to the Class 5A, Division I state championship game.

He had surgery in January to repair a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder. He's expected to take another three months to rehabilitate it, and Larry Foles said there is a 90 percent chance that the quarterback would be healthy enough to play this fall.

gtowndrumma
02-07-2007, 12:22 AM
that is one of the weirdest pains when you start tearing that tendon. it happened to me in 7th grade and any time i tried to throw a baseball i would get this feeling like my hand was being pushed into a box of needles because of the nerve damage.... really a weird experience

fb#1
02-07-2007, 10:30 AM
Looks as if someone will get a steal ! Big Time QB ! I heard the story about Drew Brees coming out of Westlake and how Texas and Texas A&M hee-hawed around, and BAM ! look at that guy now.