View Full Version : Baytown Lee vs Lake
LakeFan06
09-10-2005, 02:51 AM
does any1 know the outcome of this match-up? because I had something scheduled on today.
ktchamp97
09-10-2005, 03:02 AM
Lake won 63 to 39.
Here's a link to the Chronicle Box Score...Link (http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/sports/hs/fb/boys/boys_fb_boxscore.hts?game_no=5674&class=5A&district=24-5A&month=08&date=10&year=2005)
630 yards rushing and no punts is a pretty good formula for victory.
lil_cb_05
09-10-2005, 03:08 AM
lakes running game is something serious.
3rd coastfootball
09-11-2005, 03:33 AM
I will give credit where credit is due, Lakes offense is good. HOWEVER, Lee's defense is horrible. In a high school football game, how is it possible that you let your team give up 630 yards rushing? I will answer it, it is because you put all your talent on offense, and don't care about defense. Palacios would score on Lee's defense. Lake will have half as much offense against a very average Katy Taylor team. Marque it down
waterboy
09-11-2005, 12:50 PM
lake has one of the best back fields
Lakelover
09-11-2005, 11:18 PM
I will give credit where credit is due, Lakes offense is good. HOWEVER, Lee's defense is horrible. In a high school football game, how is it possible that you let your team give up 630 yards rushing? I will answer it, it is because you put all your talent on offense, and don't care about defense. Palacios would score on Lee's defense. Lake will have half as much offense against a very average Katy Taylor team. Marque it down
I will agree that Lee's defense left a lot to be desired. It was so bad that Lake's cheerleading squad had to stop doing backflips for each point and switched to doing jumping jacks before somebody fell out from exhaustion.
If you're happy spotting 315 yards rushing and 32 points to Lake this friday it's going to be a long night for Katy Taylor. Just make sure you bring your offense to the game bc I'm pretty sure Lake will bring theirs.
Oiler1
09-12-2005, 11:09 AM
Lee's defense is terrible and I couldn't agree more that they put everything on the offense.
Lakes defense is now next to last in district 24-5A as far as team defense, just ahead of Clear Creek (0-3) by 21 yards. According to this site -
http://www.clearcreekfootball.com/html/district_leaders.html
The offense will not keep putting up 600 yards a game. Thats just a fact. They didn't against Tomball or LaPorte.
Katy Taylor was hot over several calls in District Stadium last year they contended cost them the game last year, so I look for some serious action against Lake this week which is being played on Katy's turf.
bulldog
09-12-2005, 11:18 AM
Lee's defense is terrible and I couldn't agree more that they put everything on the offense.
Lakes defense is now next to last in district 24-5A as far as team defense, just ahead of Clear Creek (0-3) by 21 yards. According to this site -
http://www.clearcreekfootball.com/html/district_leaders.html
The offense will not keep putting up 600 yards a game. Thats just a fact. They didn't against Tomball or LaPorte.
Katy Taylor was hot over several calls in District Stadium last year they contended cost them the game last year, so I look for some serious action against Lake this week which is being played on Katy's turf.
It sounds like "oiler nation" is getting a little nervous.
Sounds like alot of hope, like you hope lake is bad because that is who knocked you off your high horse last year.
Baytown Lee is a quality 5A team and Lake had about 700 yards of offense against them. Say what you will, but it's not like they were playing Pasadena or HISD schools. You have to give them props on that.
I will say this, if your offense scores alot and your defense is on the field because it takes your offense about 1:00 and 3 plays to score, like lake, then your defensive stats are a little misleading. Not saying that Lake has a good D, but it probably is not as bad as you are hoping it is. Their D caught a lot of slack last year, but I'm sure they would be happy with another run like that.
Oiler1
09-12-2005, 12:18 PM
Lets see....how much touting do we see the Oilers doing on this board????
Why post about Lake?....Not scared just local, they are in my back yard and I go see them play. All I see is the slanted posts on a team that is not the equivalent of last year. They have alot of growing to do but the posts make it sound like they are already there.
Baytown is 0-2 (giving up 96 points in 2 weeks, not steller D), Tomball is 1-2 (nearly beat Lake) and Laporte is 2-0 beating Lake. So why doubt Lake?
Yes, a former Oiler I am but if I don't see them play then I'm not going to post game opinions. Statistically their defense is awesome and their offense can't pass but they are beating far better teams than Lake (besides LaPorte and Lake lost that one as you know) and the last I checked they are still undefeated. The Oilers are 2nd in both team offense and defense in district 24-5A. Wouldn't be surprised to see them back in 1st after this week on the offensive stats.
Oilers have beaten Kempner 2-1, Elkins 2-1 and Memorial 0-2 (Memorial did the same last year and won their district). Votes still out on the Oilers too but they are in better shape than Lake.
Lakelover
09-12-2005, 10:11 PM
All I see is the slanted posts on a team that is not the equivalent of last year.
Oiler1 you are the only one that can't seem to get over Lake's team from last year. It's a new year, a new team but you just can't seem to make a post about Lake without mentioning last year's team and how this one doesn't match up. My god man, Lake was one of the last 4 standing in 5A DII last year, why, ...they even beat the mighty Katy Tigers (bright light floods the room and soft angelic harp music plays in the background). This year's Lake team can't compare but they are doing all right so far and if they falter I still love 'em.
You have to forgive your team for losing to Lake last year and move on. I know that you counted on having 24-5A sewn up last year after getting out of North Shore's district only to run into those cursed Falcons. Let me help put you at ease, most of last year's Lake team graduated...they can't hurt you anymore. Try saying that 20 times b4 you go to sleep and maybe the nightmare will stop.
Oiler1
09-13-2005, 10:24 AM
Lakelover,
Wow.....I'm not hung up on the loss last year to Lake but the Lake faithful are blind to flaws in this years team. Last years teams accomplishments will not soon be forgotten and any references that this team is just like last years will also not be unchallenged.
Why is it everyone forgets that Pearland only spent a few years in North Shores district and spent more than 20 years in district 24-5A? Re-alignments happen and the gift for Pearland leaving NS's district is that they get to meet them in the first round in the playoffs every year. Always the 2 largest schools in their respective districts and allows Lake the 2nd largest in 24-5A now to avoid playing North Shore in the first round. So if anyone should be happy about Pearlands return to 24-5A, it should be Lake. Or does Lake think they can do any better against North Shore? History says no, even with Oswald at the helm.
Looking forward to 23rd and the matchup at the Rig! Pearland's rise from the door mat of 24-5A is way more storied as a rags to riches scenario than Lake ever thought of being. Lake is the equivalent of a "one hit wonder" not a dynasty except in your own minds. Let me know when you finally wake up from your eternal dream Rumple Stiltskin (aka Lakelover). Maybe your just suffering from flash backs or hot flashes?
bulldog
09-13-2005, 11:13 AM
Lakelover,
Wow.....I'm not hung up on the loss last year to Lake but the Lake faithful are blind to flaws in this years team. Last years teams accomplishments will not soon be forgotten and any references that this team is just like last years will also not be unchallenged.
Why is it everyone forgets that Pearland only spent a few years in North Shores district and spent more than 20 years in district 24-5A? Re-alignments happen and the gift for Pearland leaving NS's district is that they get to meet them in the first round in the playoffs every year. Always the 2 largest schools in their respective districts and allows Lake the 2nd largest in 24-5A now to avoid playing North Shore in the first round. So if anyone should be happy about Pearlands return to 24-5A, it should be Lake. Or does Lake think they can do any better against North Shore? History says no, even with Oswald at the helm.
Looking forward to 23rd and the matchup at the Rig! Pearland's rise from the door mat of 24-5A is way more storied as a rags to riches scenario than Lake ever thought of being. Lake is the equivalent of a "one hit wonder" not a dynasty except in your own minds. Let me know when you finally wake up from your eternal dream Rumple Stiltskin (aka Lakelover). Maybe your just suffering from flash backs or hot flashes?
well, I believe that Lake and Pearland have about the same number of playoff visits during their history. I also believe that Lake owns a win over North Shore. Does Pearland? I really don't know. And back to back District titles are a little more than a "one hit wonder." I think Lake is establishing itself an identity. Hopefully that will not change. And you are right, Pearland's story is more "storied" bacause Lake use to hand them thier ***. (I'm saying that Lake was never that bad, that long) But I can see both schools always fighting for the #1 spot. I hope this turns out to be that big rivalry game in the district.
Oiler1
09-13-2005, 02:08 PM
Ok Bulldog...Lake is just awesome and always will be (dream on). Give me a break, if you were making your argument that LaPorte is back on track I'd bite but not Lake.
Historically you are correct on playoff appearances. But all time, Galveston Ball and LaPorte had way longer success in 24-5A with LaPorte finally leaving and has not returned.
Clear Lake (9) 1990,91,92,93,94,95,99,03,04
Pearland (9) 1950,62,86,97,2000,01,02,03,04
Galveston Ball (22) 1949,54,68,69,72,76,78,84,85,88,89,90,91,92,93,94, 95,
97,98,99,02,03
La Porte (20) 1947,51,69,77,78,79,82,83,84,87,88,91,92,93,96,98, 99,2000,01,03
But saying that Pearland moved back to 24-5A because of North Shore as many have stated is plain nuts (only to meet them in 1st round each year). That they made any assumption about 24-5A being a cake walk and Lake spoiled it is also ludicrous. The rivalry is and always will be between Lake and Creek (just like Deer Park and LaPorte) but the district battle this year will be at Pearland this year. Although I believe Galveston Ball will have its say in this battle as well.
Lakelover
09-18-2005, 01:13 PM
Lakelover,
Wow.....I'm not hung up on the loss last year to Lake but the Lake faithful are blind to flaws in this years team. Last years teams accomplishments will not soon be forgotten and any references that this team is just like last years will also not be unchallenged.
Why is it everyone forgets that Pearland only spent a few years in North Shores district and spent more than 20 years in district 24-5A? Re-alignments happen and the gift for Pearland leaving NS's district is that they get to meet them in the first round in the playoffs every year. Always the 2 largest schools in their respective districts and allows Lake the 2nd largest in 24-5A now to avoid playing North Shore in the first round. So if anyone should be happy about Pearlands return to 24-5A, it should be Lake. Or does Lake think they can do any better against North Shore? History says no, even with Oswald at the helm.
Looking forward to 23rd and the matchup at the Rig! Pearland's rise from the door mat of 24-5A is way more storied as a rags to riches scenario than Lake ever thought of being. Lake is the equivalent of a "one hit wonder" not a dynasty except in your own minds. Let me know when you finally wake up from your eternal dream Rumple Stiltskin (aka Lakelover). Maybe your just suffering from flash backs or hot flashes?
A Lake dynasty? I can't remember any Lake fan making that statement (there must be all of 5 or 6 of us "Lake faithful" on the board). You continue making up "points" for our amusement, have to give you props for that.
What dream am I supposed to be in? I take 'em one game at a time and hope my guys end up on top. My expectations for this year's team have always been realistic, a playoff spot, and never try to compare them to last year, unlike some of our posters (wink, wink). It tickles me that you are so obsessed with Lake. My guess is that you rode that Lake train all the way to San Antonio last year.
ktCarl
09-18-2005, 08:57 PM
Katy Taylor 21
Clear Lake 14
Taylor's defense must be better than projected by 19-5A experts. I went to this game and did not see Lake's dominant running game. It was Taylor's Homecoming game so maybe they played more inspired than usual.
What's Lake's fans comments on the game?
Oiler1
09-19-2005, 11:26 AM
ktCarl,
The Lake fans are quiet because they now realize what I've being saying all long is true. The defense is weak and it was last year but they always seem to pull it out. Joe Clark, supposedly the next coming of Jones, disappeared off the radar against Taylor. This just proves how bad Baytown Lee's defense was last week and the entrusting Gilmer is not the solution they've been touting.
The defensive coordinator from Lake is now at Clear Creek and they can't stop anyone either. They are next to last and last in district in team defense respectively (only difference is 2-2 vs 0-4). The bend don't break theory only works so long on defense before the fairy dust runs out (especially giving up an average 300+ yards a game). I believe that Clear Lake will take the 3rd spot in district and go to the playoffs but that could change in a hurry depending on the outcome of the Pearland game this week. They only have to stop Whittaker to win this week (3 good defenses have failed), lets see if the defense can step up and Gilmer can hold onto the ball against a very good Pearland "D".
waterboy
09-24-2005, 12:15 PM
ok oiler dude joe only had 4 carrys so be quiet
Lakelover
09-24-2005, 06:15 PM
ktCarl,
I believe that Clear Lake will take the 3rd spot in district and go to the playoffs but that could change in a hurry depending on the outcome of the Pearland game this week. They only have to stop Whittaker to win this week (3 good defenses have failed), lets see if the defense can step up and Gilmer can hold onto the ball against a very good Pearland "D".
How does one district game change anything for Lake, or Pearland for that matter? Much less "change in a hurry"?
And I deleted your screwy comment about Clark being the "next Jones". You are the only one making these ridiculous comparisons...over and over and over again. You sound like a stuck record, in your case maybe a 78 rpm?
Oiler1,
First of all, if we are going to keep bringing up last year, Pearland didn't do anything against Lake's supposed "weak defense". Pearland scored a late touchdown on a prevent defense which made the score look actually closer than it was. I have never seen a team with more heart, strong character and respect for one another as Lake's 2004 team. Both the offense and defense made the plays they needed to to win their games and make the playoffs in our area one of the most exciting on record.
Perhaps Pearland should follow Clear Lake's motto by positioning their players for "whole team success" and not focusing on offense vs. defense. What about Special Teams? We definitely can't forget about them. There is none bigger a play than Lake's block of a field goal in the Katy game that sent the game into overtime.
Do you judge a defense by the points allowed or the yards allowed? Statistics are kept for both, but which one takes them to the State Semi- Finals? Remember, this is the same Lake program that beat Northshore in '99, not because of statistics, but because of a total team effort and the final score.
If you are a Pearland fan, then you must know that the coaches at Pearland came from La Marque, which must also mean you are an Alan Weddell fan. After several state championship seasons in La Marque, he went collegiate, then made a stop off as Brazoswood's DC last year (Head coach is another LaMarque coach who was under Weddell). Statistically (since that is what you seem to be judging everything by), he didn't have much success. Does that mean he is not a good coach? Definitely not. Does that mean that Brazoswood is rebuilding? Definitely yes... As are many teams in our area.
Anything can happen under the Friday Night Lights...
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