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toddg
01-02-2007, 03:45 PM
the difference between the southlake spread and almost all other forms ran by other schools, is the execution of these three pass routes.

they run the deep ins/outs to near perfection..the timing on this route is crucial, the QB has to have great arm strength and touch, not to mention the timing...this route is almost unstoppable when executed properly..this year riley dodge and his recievers were nearly flawless. the WRs running these routes have to be able to get to the spot on time, which is hard to do sometimes against a good jam. they probably smile pretty big when the corners play off of them...remember the first SB between the cowboys and the bills? troy and michael broke the bills backs in the 2nd qtr. with first a deep out-td, and then a deep in-td in consecetive drives following to's.

when playing very good secondaries, they set up the skinny post with crossing patterns and hitches very well and are very patient in that process, which in hs football is rare, that is why sometimes they break the game open late in the 2nd qrt alot of times.

remember the touchdown to ford following the presnap ejection? they beautifully spent the entire game to that point setting that pass up.
the seam is almost always a sure td when set up properly and requiers total patience and above avg touch on a well thrown ball..

just my opinion on just a few things southlake does on offense, that seperate them from the other teams running the spread..

just a casual observation from a texas high school football fan.

KT2000
01-05-2007, 08:45 AM
Their route running and timing is as good as it gets at this level in my opinion. It's amazing to me how they take advantage of any slip ups defensively nearly every time they get the chance.

Two of the big TD passes they hit against Westlake in the state game were due to the Chaps not getting lined up properly. Dodge and the receivers instantly recognized that, and made them pay.

They force you to play a near perfect game to even have a chance.

They also cross receivers very well through crisp route running and play design. It takes a very experienced and intelligent secondary to defend.

Of course, that's part of the reason generating an effective pass rush is one of the single most important ingredients to successfully defending an effective spread.

toddg
01-05-2007, 04:14 PM
Their route running and timing is as good as it gets at this level in my opinion. It's amazing to me how they take advantage of any slip ups defensively nearly every time they get the chance.

Two of the big TD passes they hit against Westlake in the state game were due to the Chaps not getting lined up properly. Dodge and the receivers instantly recognized that, and made them pay.

They force you to play a near perfect game to even have a chance.

They also cross receivers very well through crisp route running and play design. It takes a very experienced and intelligent secondary to defend.

Of course, that's part of the reason generating an effective pass rush is one of the single most important ingredients to successfully defending an effective spread.

spot on correct..westlake got penetration in the 1st half, and the results were there...they couldnt maintain it in the 2nd half, and wallah!! they break your back, before you know it they are rolling.

jakerz
01-05-2007, 04:21 PM
Their route running and timing is as good as it gets at this level in my opinion. It's amazing to me how they take advantage of any slip ups defensively nearly every time they get the chance.

Two of the big TD passes they hit against Westlake in the state game were due to the Chaps not getting lined up properly. Dodge and the receivers instantly recognized that, and made them pay.

They force you to play a near perfect game to even have a chance.

They also cross receivers very well through crisp route running and play design. It takes a very experienced and intelligent secondary to defend.

Of course, that's part of the reason generating an effective pass rush is one of the single most important ingredients to successfully defending an effective spread.

spot on correct..westlake got penetration in the 1st half, and the results were there...they couldnt maintain it in the 2nd half, and wallah!! they break your back, before you know it they are rolling.

The spread also counters on that, depending who runs it. I think the best athlete with the ball should line up behind center in the spread. Hence William Cole. With a good pass rush, he's still going to get away. When he does, you bring an extra lineback/CB, and he gets time to throw the ball. Same goes for Riley Dodge, remember he does run a 4.3 afterall :D:D:D:D

dragonsdaddy
01-08-2007, 06:41 PM
[quote=toddg;403012]

The spread also counters on that, depending who runs it. I think the best athlete with the ball should line up behind center in the spread. Hence William Cole. With a good pass rush, he's still going to get away. When he does, you bring an extra lineback/CB, and he gets time to throw the ball. Same goes for Riley Dodge, remember he does run a 4.3 afterall :D:D:D:D

success in the spread revolves around myriad players, and doesn't require that the best athlete be the qb(see mcelroy). it doesn't hurt, but if you are depending on the qb out-athleting the other team, you will likely be a one year flash(subject to graduation of your trick-pony).