5-5A Predicts for 10-27

[Pantherguy]

Big weekend of games for the non-SLC teams...who will win?

Colleyville vs Northwest

This should be a great game, I am excited to see it...NW has shown they can hang in 5A, and look to be a playoff team. CHHS can sew up a playoff spot with a win. I see Colleyville by a touchdown, maybe more...but time will tell on this one...I wouldn't be absolutely shocked to see NW win...

Richland vs. Grapevine

HUGE game for Grapevine, a loss and they fight an uphill battle in the last two weeks against SLC and CH. Richland has a good chance to make the playoffs if they can win this week. Sound crazy? Don't forget that Richland beat the same Haltom team that beat Gvine 41-27. I think GVine will win by 14+, but don't discount Richland, they do have a good QB and some weapons on offense...

Haltom vs. Keller Central

Haltom must win to keep their playoff hopes alive, and I think they will, but some Haltom people told me last week that the team lacked focus, so they will need to play to their potential. Haltom by 14+. By the way, kudos to Clayton George for starting the turnaround at Haltom, they are MUCH improved this year.

SLC vs. Keller

Keller has, no lie, the worst defense I have ever seen at the 5A level. They are awful. You SLC people will be impressed with their QB, he will be the biggest QB recruit from the district this year, but you can't do it by yourself. SLC wins by 60+

What do you guys think...the SLC watchers will want to watch Richland real close, and of course Haltom...while the CHHS-NW should be the best game, it holds little implications for SLC going D1/D2, barring a total meltdown from one of the two teams the last few weeks...should be interesting?

Your thoughts?

(P.S. to all the 5-5A bashers..we get it..the district is not as good as it has been in the past, but its still fun to watch who gets in the playoffs from any district, and since a lot of 5-5A posters are on this board, it makes for good message board fodder.)

[mustangs9]

I agree the NW-Colleyville game is a big one..

[Grapeguy]

As posted elsewhere, I give the nod to NW. Did Haltom get over 400 yards passing against CH? Your DBs could be in another long night if NW doesn't get production from Ashley.

I'd be shocked if Richland wins.

[StarmanDX]

(P.S. to all the 5-5A bashers..we get it..the district is not as good as it has been in the past, but its still fun to watch who gets in the playoffs from any district, and since a lot of 5-5A posters are on this board, it makes for good message board fodder.)

Actually this is the best it has been since Trinity was in the district. 04 only had 2 good teams, and 05 was the worst its ever been. In '05, I would say 5-5a was at its absolute lowpoint.

Anyway I say that the CHHS vs. Northwest game is the battle of the 2 most over rated teams in the metroplex.

[drgnbkr]

Actually this is the best it has been since Trinity was in the district. 04 only had 2 good teams, and 05 was the worst its ever been. In '05, I would say 5-5a was at its absolute lowpoint.

Anyway I say that the CHHS vs. Northwest game is the battle of the 2 most over rated teams in the metroplex.

5-5A has gone further as a district in the playoffs than 7-5A...you know that, right? Trinity was in a different 5-5A if at all..what are you referring to there?

[rams55]

colleyville over northwest but it'll be a close game(10+)

slc over keller with another blow out (70+)

a barn burner but richland over gvine. i gotta hunch for some weird reason(3+)

haltom over central by (14+)

[StarmanDX]

5-5A has gone further as a district in the playoffs than 7-5A...you know that, right? Trinity was in a different 5-5A if at all..what are you referring to there?

2002-2003:

Grapevine
Colleyville
Trinity
LD Bell
Keller
Fossil Ridge
Haltom
Boswell

They still had the "core" of the district.

Also isn't SLC the only team in the district with a 5A playoff victory?

[dragonsdaddy]

2002-2003:

Grapevine
Colleyville
Trinity
LD Bell
Keller
Fossil Ridge
Haltom
Boswell

They still had the "core" of the district.

Also isn't SLC the only team in the district with a 5A playoff victory?
i'm sure back in the day, haltom won some po games, but it's been a while. and i thought keller won one in 03. maybe not.

[rams55]

Actually this is the best it has been since Trinity was in the district. 04 only had 2 good teams, and 05 was the worst its ever been. In '05, I would say 5-5a was at its absolute lowpoint.

Anyway I say that the CHHS vs. Northwest game is the battle of the 2 most over rated teams in the metroplex.

05' a lowpoint in 5-5a. you've got to be kidding me. lets see the teams we had last year

Denton ryan
SLC
CHHS
GHS
Haltom
Fossil Ridge

all six of those teams were good and the top three being the best and if i remember correctly we had two season with two teams ranked in the top 25 in the nation.

was sgp, et, mac or any one else ranked in the top 25 lastyear NO

sorry but these are the facts. yes 5-5a is suffering this year due to a massive senior class last year but i would argue having LD BELL in your district as making you week


and how is colleyville and northwest both overrated if i remember correctly both teams are on many offensive leader boards statistically

both have lost two games.and colleyville beat themselves in the SLC and hung with a very good cedar hill team. who many think they should have beat(this includes me)


your reasoning for hating on 5-5a is the fact that you will never be able to have a beating givin to you by the SLC and maybe even colleyville and northwest

[FootballCrazy727]

colleyville over northwest but it'll be a close game(10+)

slc over keller with another blow out (70+)

a barn burner but richland over gvine. i gotta hunch for some weird reason(3+)

haltom over central by (14+)
Grapevine will not lose to Richland. If Grapevine plays like they can they should handle richland without too much trouble. Grapevine wins(17+)

[rams55]

coleyville was in the playoffs and won some p.o. games in 02' 03'

grapevine won state in 4a in 96' and 98' and has always been a contender at the state level

and i also think keller went in 03'

[rams55]

Grapevine will not lose to Richland. If Grapevine plays like they can they should handle richland without too much trouble. Grapevine wins(17+)

that my friend is why im picking richland. not to hate on gvine but just because i think they will come out flat and not play to there potential

[dragonsdaddy]

coleyville was in the playoffs and won some p.o. games in 02' 03'

grapevine won state in 4a in 96' and 98' and has always been a contender at the state level

and i also think keller went in 03'
gvine has fallen off the contender pile since returning to 5a in 02. they haven't sniffed since, and are possibly tying their converse all-stars in week 11 this year too.

[FootballCrazy727]

that my friend is why im picking richland. not to hate on gvine but just because i think they will come out flat and not play to there potential

Well its a hunch and i cant blame you for having it (ex.haltom) but i believe grapevine has learned their lesson and have become a better football team

[FootballCrazy727]

gvine has fallen off the contender pile since returning to 5a in 02. they haven't sniffed since, and are possibly tying their converse all-stars in week 11 this year too.

G-vine should have been their last year instead of fossil ridge and would have had a decent chance of winning in the first couple rounds

[dragonsdaddy]

G-vine should have been their last year instead of fossil ridge and would have had a decent chance of winning in the first couple rounds
sgp would have waxed the ts turf with gvine last year, imo. one and done, one and done.

[rams55]

sgp would have waxed the ts turf with gvine last year, imo. one and done, one and done.
i believe fossile ridges first game was ET so i think gvine by the end of that game would have had an apple in its mouth and a spit in its @$$ just roasting over a fire

[dragonsdaddy]

i believe fossile ridges first game was ET so i think gvine by the end of that game would have had an apple in its mouth and a spit in its @$$ just roasting over a fire
fridge went d-1. had gvine gone, they would have been d-2 as the 2nd place team, and taken dryan's spot, so sgp would have been their oppressor.

[rams55]

fridge went d-1. had gvine gone, they would have been d-2 as the 2nd place team, and taken dryan's spot, so sgp would have been their oppressor.

thank you for the clarification i still cant believe that ehye are on e of the smaller schools in the district

[Pantherguy]

Actually this is the best it has been since Trinity was in the district. 04 only had 2 good teams, and 05 was the worst its ever been. In '05, I would say 5-5a was at its absolute lowpoint.

Anyway I say that the CHHS vs. Northwest game is the battle of the 2 most over rated teams in the metroplex.

Starman, again, we just wanted to talk about our disctrict, not how it would stack up against 7-5A...we get it, you think any team from NE Tarrant full of white kids can't play with 7-5A....its a tired argument...we will see in the playoffs...let it go...

[ScottS]

and colleyville beat themselves in the SLC

Tap the brake.

[Pantherguy]

Tap the brake.

rams55 talks with his heart, not his head sometimes...you don't beat yourselves to the tune of 56-7...if we did beat ourselves, then we beat the living crap out of ourselves...

[dragonsdaddy]

rams55 talks with his heart, not his head sometimes...you don't beat yourselves to the tune of 56-7...if we did beat ourselves, then we beat the living crap out of ourselves...
maybe not showing up, or showing up with the inferior team is beating yourself. who knows?

[DragonFan]

Northwest appeares to be the best coached team outside of SLC in 5-5a. I would pick Northwest over CHHS. The amount of fight that NW showed in its lose to SLC was outstanding. They kept throwing the ball and putting pressure on SLC's defense. The OL for NW was a lot better than CHHS, plus the run defense of NW was the most effective of the year in containing SLC running game.

I think NW wins by 14 over CHHS

[TexanPride]

NW beats CHHS 38-31. I think the spread may be more, but I am willing to publicly declare a Texan win by 7. I was pretty close to my last prediction 48-28 SLC (45-21). What I know of NW, and what I know of CHHS, I think offensively this will be a high scoring game with the Texans coming out on top.

[Pantherguy]

NW beats CHHS 38-31. I think the spread may be more, but I am willing to publicly declare a Texan win by 7. I was pretty close to my last prediction 48-28 SLC (45-21). What I know of NW, and what I know of CHHS, I think offensively this will be a high scoring game with the Texans coming out on top.

There is little doubt the game will be high scoring...what I want to know about is the Texan defense in the secondary? I have seen numerous posts talking about their ability to stop the run, but they gave up 400+ passing yards to SLC in a blowout (which means it could have been more)...you don't have to stop the Colleyville rushing game...it is stopped right now on Tuesday, but what about the ability to defend the pass? Just curious, I don't know a lot about Northwest...

Good luck to you guys, hope it is as good as a game as I think it will be...

[rams55]

rams55 talks with his heart, not his head sometimes...you don't beat yourselves to the tune of 56-7...if we did beat ourselves, then we beat the living crap out of ourselves...


no this time im takling with my head after the first quater it sounded as if a switch was flipped and colleyville turned off. too many dropped balls, bad passes, and a fumbled snap . all of these sound like personal issues which i inturn call BEATING YOURSELF. they never even gave them selves the oppurtunity to win or try to win.

but on to this week colleyville wins not because they are the better team but because they have something to prove the rest of this season.

will it be a close game? YES. will it come down to the final minutes? its very much a possibility


the fact of the matter is this colleyville needs this win friday night and they will get it, but itll be ugly

[TexanPride]

NW needs this game just as much as Colleyville does, so they will be motivated - just as much as they were against SLC. Plus they are playing at home. I believe we are undefeated at home since the opening of our new stadium last year.

As far as NW's secondary goes, I think this is an area that is evolving. This is our first year in 5A, and we are new to the spread. I don't remember any team we faced the past couple of years using the spread other than a vague memory of playing Granbury a couple of years ago? Our secondary sometimes defends against the pass very well, and other times they don't look so good. I think they line up off the ball too deep and start backpeddling as soon as the ball is snapped. This allows receivers to run a 10-15 yard deep pattern behind the LB's and cut underneath the DB's....argggghh. However, our D has caused 14 fumbles and 9 Int's so far this year.

As far as giving up big yardage against SLC...who hasn't? SLC's first string offense and Riley played virtually the whole game, so the yardage given up wasn't against second stringers - how many other teams who have lost against SLC can say that? which makes the fact that we only gave up 45 against them a little more impressive in my opinion - 45 against the 1st offense when everyone else gave up more points and the 1st string was pulled at the half or 3rd quarter.

[Grapeguy]

There is little doubt the game will be high scoring...what I want to know about is the Texan defense in the secondary? I have seen numerous posts talking about their ability to stop the run, but they gave up 400+ passing yards to SLC in a blowout (which means it could have been more)...you don't have to stop the Colleyville rushing game...it is stopped right now on Tuesday, but what about the ability to defend the pass? Just curious, I don't know a lot about Northwest...

Good luck to you guys, hope it is as good as a game as I think it will be...

From an SLC fan's perspective:

Other than the last series with the 2nd string, SLC pretty much ran its normal offense so I wouldn't say that the passing yardage would have been more. Part of the reason for the 400+ yards was a need to rely on the passing game. We were less successful running the ball - particularly the QB on the edges. Newton wasn't often stuffed (most carries in the 4-8 yard range) but I only recall one run over 10 yards.

Other than missing the one or two very productive screens per game, the passing game had success in just about every phase. It seemed like we had more catches over the middle than other games however. NW had a lot of picks coming into the game but got none against us. I see that one of their DBs leads the area with 5. Part of the reason may be the DLine pressure. They put as much pressure on Dodge as any line since Evangel and probably got the most sacks.

[BigFoot]

05' a lowpoint in 5-5a. you've got to be kidding me. lets see the teams we had last year

Denton ryan
SLC
CHHS
GHS
Haltom
Fossil Ridge

all six of those teams were good and the top three being the best and if i remember correctly we had two season with two teams ranked in the top 25 in the nation.

was sgp, et, mac or any one else ranked in the top 25 lastyear NO

sorry but these are the facts. yes 5-5a is suffering this year due to a massive senior class last year but i would argue having LD BELL in your district as making you week


and how is colleyville and northwest both overrated if i remember correctly both teams are on many offensive leader boards statistically

both have lost two games.and colleyville beat themselves in the SLC and hung with a very good cedar hill team. who many think they should have beat(this includes me)


your reasoning for hating on 5-5a is the fact that you will never be able to have a beating givin to you by the SLC and maybe even colleyville and northwest

YES ET was nationally ranked last year.

http://www.tonybianco.com/high_school_football.htm
http://www.maxpreps.com/FanPages/NationalRankings.mxp/Boys_Varsity_Football_Fall_05-06
http://www.neofootball.com/fb/showthread.php?t=4414

[Pantherguy]

NW needs this game just as much as Colleyville does, so they will be motivated - just as much as they were against SLC. Plus they are playing at home. I believe we are undefeated at home since the opening of our new stadium last year.

As far as NW's secondary goes, I think this is an area that is evolving. This is our first year in 5A, and we are new to the spread. I don't remember any team we faced the past couple of years using the spread other than a vague memory of playing Granbury a couple of years ago? Our secondary sometimes defends against the pass very well, and other times they don't look so good. I think they line up off the ball too deep and start backpeddling as soon as the ball is snapped. This allows receivers to run a 10-15 yard deep pattern behind the LB's and cut underneath the DB's....argggghh. However, our D has caused 14 fumbles and 9 Int's so far this year.

As far as giving up big yardage against SLC...who hasn't? SLC's first string offense and Riley played virtually the whole game, so the yardage given up wasn't against second stringers - how many other teams who have lost against SLC can say that? which makes the fact that we only gave up 45 against them a little more impressive in my opinion - 45 against the 1st offense when everyone else gave up more points and the 1st string was pulled at the half or 3rd quarter.

Thats a fair point about SLC...I know they killed everyone through the air, I had just heard about the run defense, and against us it doesn't matter...that's why I wondered about the secondary...I am very excited for this game though, pumped to see your new stadium too. It looks real nice from the road, and I'm anxious to watch a game in it.

As far as the motivation, I agree with you...this game is as big for NW as it is for Colleyville, so both teams are going to fight for it (even though I think in the end both will make the playoffs)...anyway, good luck to you guys and I hope it is a good injury-free game...

[TexanPride]

From an SLC fan's perspective:

Other than the last series with the 2nd string, SLC pretty much ran its normal offense so I wouldn't say that the passing yardage would have been more. Part of the reason for the 400+ yards was a need to rely on the passing game. We were less successful running the ball - particularly the QB on the edges. Newton wasn't often stuffed (most carries in the 4-8 yard range) but I only recall one run over 10 yards.

Other than missing the one or two very productive screens per game, the passing game had success in just about every phase. It seemed like we had more catches over the middle than other games however. NW had a lot of picks coming into the game but got none against us. I see that one of their DBs leads the area with 5. Part of the reason may be the DLine pressure. They put as much pressure on Dodge as any line since Evangel and probably got the most sacks.

Good assessment on the game. I totally agree that the 400+ yards passing was a result of us taking the running game away. I saw that Riley had 16 carries for a total of 10 yards - we took his running out of the game entirely. As far as Newton goes, I think he had 2 rushes over 10 yards. I think the NW defense made some pretty good adjustments in the second half, as Riley had over 300 yards passing in the first half, which means we limited him to less than 100 in the 2nd half. Nate got most of his yards in the 2nd half.

Do you know how many times he was sacked? I recall somewhere in the 4-5 range?

[Grapeguy]

Good assessment on the game. I totally agree that the 400+ yards passing was a result of us taking the running game away. I saw that Riley had 16 carries for a total of 10 yards - we took his running out of the game entirely. As far as Newton goes, I think he had 2 rushes over 10 yards. I think the NW defense made some pretty good adjustments in the second half, as Riley had over 300 yards passing in the first half, which means we limited him to less than 100 in the 2nd half. Nate got most of his yards in the 2nd half.

Do you know how many times he was sacked? I recall somewhere in the 4-5 range?

Tre' plays for SLC. Nate plays for Briscoe.:D

[drgnbkr]

Good assessment on the game. I totally agree that the 400+ yards passing was a result of us taking the running game away. I saw that Riley had 16 carries for a total of 10 yards - we took his running out of the game entirely. As far as Newton goes, I think he had 2 rushes over 10 yards. I think the NW defense made some pretty good adjustments in the second half, as Riley had over 300 yards passing in the first half, which means we limited him to less than 100 in the 2nd half. Nate got most of his yards in the 2nd half.

Do you know how many times he was sacked? I recall somewhere in the 4-5 range?

560 yards of offense for Carroll means you did not stop much...anytime....but I do think you'll beat CHHS

[my3sons]

05' a lowpoint in 5-5a. you've got to be kidding me. lets see the teams we had last year

Denton ryan
SLC
CHHS
GHS
Haltom
Fossil Ridge

all six of those teams were good and the top three being the best and if i remember correctly we had two season with two teams ranked in the top 25 in the nation.

was sgp, et, mac or any one else ranked in the top 25 lastyear NO


sorry but these are the facts. yes 5-5a is suffering this year due to a massive senior class last year but i would argue having LD BELL in your district as making you week


and how is colleyville and northwest both overrated if i remember correctly both teams are on many offensive leader boards statistically

both have lost two games.and colleyville beat themselves in the SLC and hung with a very good cedar hill team. who many think they should have beat(this includes me)


your reasoning for hating on 5-5a is the fact that you will never be able to have a beating givin to you by the SLC and maybe even colleyville and northwest

Did you watch the Colleyville --SLC game? CV beat themselves?? You must be kidding. SLC destroyed them again. Once again CV was crowing how bad they were going to beat SLC and how much they hated SLC. They were destroyed! CV did not beat themselves; SLC did it for them (again).:D :D