Joe Torre fired

[TexasRed6x]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224

Lou Pinella is going to be his replacement.

[DragonBand06]

With the recent firing of the Rangers' manager, do you think this changes the hunt for a replacement?

[CLFalcon2006]

Steinbrenner is a fool. Give Joe a team instead of a group of overpaid stat players and he will win you a world series. Me thinks the Sox are going to turn it around and get healthy next year and the Yanks will flounder. Besides what has Pinella done recently other than age in Tampa. Props to him if he can turn it around but I'm impressed Torre did as well as he did with this group over the past few years.

I like Garner with the stros so I dont care if he comes here or not

however

I hear theres a struggling team in Kansas City thats in desperate need of guidance and is as far away from overpaid free agents as you will find...

[Tut]

Torre isn't the problem! Could the New Yorkers get together and instead fire Steinbrenner? :confused:

[farmerfan]

Hey George, what about that prediction yopu made during spring training, you remember right? the one about guranteeing a world series this year? You sure were right about that.

[elprezidente]

hmmmm i would love to see in the future torre as the sox manager givin it to stienbrener(didnt spell it right did i). aaaah my dreams not yours.

[Favpack]

Wow - I'm stunned - I figured he'd have Joe revamp the team.

Did you see the SI article this week - naming A-rod the greatest short stop of all time? Another wow - he doesn't make my top 10.

[TexasRed6x]

Wow - I'm stunned - I figured he'd have Joe revamp the team.

Did you see the SI article this week - naming A-rod the greatest short stop of all time? Another wow - he doesn't make my top 10.
He used to be considered one of the greatest SS of all time but look at him now.

[CyFallsMom]

I hate Steinbrenner - Torre is a great manager and good person. Too bad we already signed Garner - we could have brought him here. Or even Girardi - either one would have been good and they should have kept Hickey too. Pinella again? What is with Steinbrenner always hiring his own retreads? This one is like Bobby Knight with the throwing of chairs and such. I just don't get this one at all. Maybe they should revamp the team instead of the manager. There are so many egos on that team, it's ridiculous.

[Humblefied]

they need to get rid of Arod and bring in some pitching. I would much rather have star pitching than star hitting.

[farmerfan]

they need to get rid of Arod and bring in some pitching. I would much rather have star pitching than star hitting.

who is out there that they could trade for though? Teams arent trading with the yankees like they used to and right now A-rod is not worth giving up a quality young arm for. I believe they are stuck with him.

[Humblefied]

who is out there that they could trade for though? Teams arent trading with the yankees like they used to and right now A-rod is not worth giving up a quality young arm for. I believe they are stuck with him.

If I was the royals I mean you have to be willing to do anything, but I can see what you mean because they have nothing to give back.

But what about the fans, they want trade and if Steinbrenner is true to his fans then he will send him.

[yankee]

who is out there that they could trade for though? Teams arent trading with the yankees like they used to and right now A-rod is not worth giving up a quality young arm for. I believe they are stuck with him.
maybe not trading but zito is on the free agent list this winter so i would not be suprised to see the yanks pick him up...continuing the tradition of picking up superstars!

[BeauxGeezy]

continuing the tradition of picking up superstars!

That's a 2 part tradition...you left out the "and doing nothing with them" part.

[yankee]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224

Lou Pinella is going to be his replacement.
i haven't heard that torre will be fired...there have been many rumors circulating around him and the fact that he has not been to a world series in 5 seasons..and for that matter won one since 6 years ago..i don't want torre to go, the guy is great for the yankees and an excellent manager. steiny needs to look past his flaming ego and realize, is lou pinella better than torre? :rolleyes:

[yankee]

That's a 2 part tradition...you left out the "and doing nothing with them" part.
that was already assumed...

[Owned05]

maybe not trading but zito is on the free agent list this winter so i would not be suprised to see the yanks pick him up...continuing the tradition of picking up superstars!

Unfortunately for Yankee fans, Barry Zito will end up being a New York Met. :) That may be something that they should get used to.

Ya know, I'd really love to see Torre goto Boston.

[Firebird]

Wow - I'm stunned - I figured he'd have Joe revamp the team.

Did you see the SI article this week - naming A-rod the greatest short stop of all time? Another wow - he doesn't make my top 10.

464 home runs at age 31...1347 RBI's.... who knows how many Golden Gloves..yeah, he isn't one of the ten best SS:rolleyes:

This A-Rod hate is ridiculous. He is a fantastic player who had a bad season. Lest we forget, he batted over .450 in the 2004 ALDS. I will grant you that he has been a let down in the playoffs, but still.....this is one of the best players you'll ever see.

[cougardude]

Did Pinella get fired when he was managing the Yankees before and if so, why would you rehire him? :confused:

[yankee]

Did Pinella get fired when he was managing the Yankees before and if so, why would you rehire him? :confused:
steinbrenner is infamous for hiring and rehiring managers...

billy martin was the manager for the yanks 5 different times under georgy...

dick howser 2 different times

gene michael 2 different times

bob lemon 2 different times

lou piniella twice, yes twice...

[svhorns]

maybe the Rangers can hire Torre...?

[farmerfan]

464 home runs at age 31...1347 RBI's.... who knows how many Golden Gloves..yeah, he isn't one of the ten best SS:rolleyes:

This A-Rod hate is ridiculous. He is a fantastic player who had a bad season. Lest we forget, he batted over .450 in the 2004 ALDS. I will grant you that he has been a let down in the playoffs, but still.....this is one of the best players you'll ever see.

in NY thought there is a difference in being one of the best and being one of the best in the post-season. October is all that matters in Gotham, its one of the reasons why Scott Brosius is still loved so much there.
You can throw out your .450 in the ALDS of 2004 but from game 4 of the LCS till now the fraud is a hitting .110 with 0 HR's and 0 RBI. While leaving over 15 men on base. Call him the best palyer all you want and regular season numbers certainly will get you into the Hall however when its crunch time and a championship is on the line I want him as far away from being in my uniform as possible.

[farmerfan]

Unfortunately for Yankee fans, Barry Zito will end up being a New York Met. :) That may be something that they should get used to.

Ya know, I'd really love to see Torre goto Boston.

JOe is a excellent manager and a outstanding human being, however I am just fine with Francona and see no need for a change.
The best would be for Torre to go to the Royals and reignite the rivalry with the yankees they had in the 80's and stick it to Georgie in the ALDS so we can stick it to Torre in the LCS.

[Primetime536]

I have said it so many times. The Yankees have lost all principals. First they lost O'neil and Tino. Ok, only two players. They then go 2 years without winning the World Series and George goes crazy signing "big named" players. Its almost like the Yankees are the American Olympic basketball team, team with most talent, just too many egos.

With Torre the Yankees somewhat held the egos in check, however, do you really think a new manager can do so? I think the new manager will be pushed around perhaps....Yall may say Penella is right for the job? Haa, he would just be another ego added to a stacked roster of egos.

[farmerfan]

I have said it so many times. The Yankees have lost all principals. First they lost O'neil and Tino. Ok, only two players. They then go 2 years without winning the World Series and George goes crazy signing "big named" players. Its almost like the Yankees are the American Olympic basketball team, team with most talent, just too many egos.

With Torre the Yankees somewhat held the egos in check, however, do you really think a new manager can do so? I think the new manager will be pushed around perhaps....Yall may say Penella is right for the job? Haa, he would just be another ego added to a stacked roster of egos.

that poor first base better watch out now, it will be taking many trips into right field if this were to hold up.

[Firebird]

in NY thought there is a difference in being one of the best and being one of the best in the post-season. October is all that matters in Gotham, its one of the reasons why Scott Brosius is still loved so much there.
You can throw out your .450 in the ALDS of 2004 but from game 4 of the LCS till now the fraud is a hitting .110 with 0 HR's and 0 RBI. While leaving over 15 men on base. Call him the best palyer all you want and regular season numbers certainly will get you into the Hall however when its crunch time and a championship is on the line I want him as far away from being in my uniform as possible.


The entire Yankee's side underperformed against the Tigers. The team batted .172 and scored three freaking runs in two games in Detroit. You can't pin this, or any of the Yank's recent collapses all on A-rod. Plus, I don't blame the guy for underperforming....as soon as he has a slump everyone in that town is all over him, even in the clubhouse. What did Giambi expect after throwing him under a bus.

The whole dang team has problems, not just A-rod.

But on a postive note:

M-E-T-S: Mets! Mets! Mets!

[farmerfan]

The entire Yankee's side underperformed against the Tigers. The team batted .172 and scored three freaking runs in two games in Detroit. You can't pin this, or any of the Yank's recent collapses all on A-rod. Plus, I don't blame the guy for underperforming....as soon as he has a slump everyone in that town is all over him, even in the clubhouse. What did Giambi expect after throwing him under a bus.

The whole dang team has problems, not just A-rod.

But on a postive note:

M-E-T-S: Mets! Mets! Mets!

BUt the whole team has not been consistantly underpreforming like A-Rod, in the last 3 years he has gone 0fer in the series deciding game, he pulls out the purse slap, he makes countless errors, he wears lip gloss ;) he get caught sun-bathing in central park you cant do that in NY. He was brought there for one reason and that is contribute to winning a championship and his performance is no where near that. WHen you get paid the money he does and demanded the trade to a contender, you bet your *** you better perform in the money situations and he hasnt. Had he been delivering the last few years and the yankees were still coming up short I gurantee you that the NY fans would be laying off of him.

[Firebird]

BUt the whole team has not been consistantly underpreforming like A-Rod, in the last 3 years he has gone 0fer in the series deciding game, he pulls out the purse slap, he makes countless errors, he wears lip gloss ;) he get caught sun-bathing in central park you cant do that in NY. He was brought there for one reason and that is contribute to winning a championship and his performance is no where near that. WHen you get paid the money he does and demanded the trade to a contender, you bet your *** you better perform in the money situations and he hasnt. Had he been delivering the last few years and the yankees were still coming up short I gurantee you that the NY fans would be laying off of him.

Oh, don't get me wrong, A-Rod should have done better, no doubt. But Yankees fans are losing perspective... you bring up the 2004 ALDS and don't mention his .451 average, only the "purse slap" and sunbathing shirtless. You don't bring up Mariano Rivera's world-class choke job in the same series. Nope-- it is all A-Rod. As far as contribution-- his regular season stats are evidence that he is helping them get to the po's in the first place.

[Sacred Ground]

JOe is a excellent manager and a outstanding human being, however I am just fine with Francona and see no need for a change.
The best would be for Torre to go to the Royals and reignite the rivalry with the yankees they had in the 80's and stick it to Georgie in the ALDS so we can stick it to Torre in the LCS.

I second that! Buddy Bell has got to go!

I grew up an Athletics/Royals fan and became an official Yankee hater in 1976. Some of you may have to refer to the ALCS history books to see where I am coming from. K.C. hates the Yankees. When the Athletics were in K.C., they were labeled the Yankees major league farm team. K.C. fans didn't like their team being labeled that way, so the Yankee hate goes back several decades.

[TexasRed6x]

maybe the Rangers can hire Torre...?
They might go after him to replace Showalter.

[gtown04]

I would love to see Torre replace Buck as the manager for the Rangers, but I really dont have a good feeling that it will happen.

The greatest tragedy that people are forgetting is that there are 6-year old NYY fans that havn't seen them win a championship. Good god think of the children. :( :(

[farmerfan]

Oh, don't get me wrong, A-Rod should have done better, no doubt. But Yankees fans are losing perspective... you bring up the 2004 ALDS and don't mention his .451 average, only the "purse slap" and sunbathing shirtless. You don't bring up Mariano Rivera's world-class choke job in the same series. Nope-- it is all A-Rod. As far as contribution-- his regular season stats are evidence that he is helping them get to the po's in the first place.

A-Rod hit under .300 in the ALCS against Boston. Including a 0-4 in game 7. The last three games of that series he went 2-11 leaving countless men on base. You say no one brings up RIverias choke job, well how many times has Mo gotten it done before? Hell he saved games 1 and 2 in that series. He was been nothing short of phenominal in playing a part in 4 championships where he was a lights out closer in 3 consecutive. He has a proven record, A-Rod does not. A-Rod was the one that demanded the trade, he was the one who was sick of playing with a bunch of kids. He was the one who said NY was where he wanted to be and bringing home a championship was his main goal. Well you have to deliver when you are in NY and he has not the fans of NY grow restless of these antics, they are awaiting for him to produce. He had a golden opportunity in game 2 coming up with bases loaded in the 1st inning, he produces there that game gets blown open, but what does he do? he K's. THe best player in baseball should be hitting better than .110 in his last 12 post season games and have at least 1 RBI.

[CyFallsMom]

Joe Torre is NOT being fired!!!! Just got an email from my Bronx born hubby and he is pretty excited about that. Torre is a great manager - they need to unload some of those egos though - not Jeter (He's the MAN)!!

[TexasRed6x]

Yeah he is going to stay another year. They just need to get improved and younger pitching.

[mad_fan]

Joe Torre is NOT being fired!!!! Just got an email from my Bronx born hubby and he is pretty excited about that. Torre is a great manager - they need to unload some of those egos though - not Jeter (He's the MAN)!!


I heard Lonny called George...poof...UNFIRED...:D

[lonny23]

in NY thought there is a difference in being one of the best and being one of the best in the post-season. October is all that matters in Gotham, its one of the reasons why Scott Brosius is still loved so much there.
You can throw out your .450 in the ALDS of 2004 but from game 4 of the LCS till now the fraud is a hitting .110 with 0 HR's and 0 RBI. While leaving over 15 men on base. Call him the best palyer all you want and regular season numbers certainly will get you into the Hall however when its crunch time and a championship is on the line I want him as far away from being in my uniform as possible.
I just think the team he plays for is cursed to lose.

[lonny23]

The entire Yankee's side underperformed against the Tigers. The team batted .172 and scored three freaking runs in two games in Detroit. You can't pin this, or any of the Yank's recent collapses all on A-rod. Plus, I don't blame the guy for underperforming....as soon as he has a slump everyone in that town is all over him, even in the clubhouse. What did Giambi expect after throwing him under a bus.

The whole dang team has problems, not just A-rod.

But on a postive note:

M-E-T-S: Mets! Mets! Mets!
1 more and you hit 1000!

[lonny23]

Oh, don't get me wrong, A-Rod should have done better, no doubt. But Yankees fans are losing perspective... you bring up the 2004 ALDS and don't mention his .451 average, only the "purse slap" and sunbathing shirtless. You don't bring up Mariano Rivera's world-class choke job in the same series. Nope-- it is all A-Rod. As far as contribution-- his regular season stats are evidence that he is helping them get to the po's in the first place.
Even during the regular season he's not clutch most of the time. He pads stats, but doesn't win you games when you're behind.

[lonny23]

I heard Lonny called George...poof...UNFIRED...:D
I'm an entropy fan. I was rooting for Piniella to return. If the Rangers get Lou, I'll watch games just to see him go ballistic.

[mad_fan]

I'm an entropy fan. I was rooting for Piniella to return. If the Rangers get Lou, I'll watch games just to see him go ballistic.


Sorry I'm not quite getting the message...:p ...but I'll will nominate you for vocabulary post of the year...:D


I like Lou...followed him since the Reds days...and you knew this was coming...

Norman Wood Charlton III (The Sheriff)
Along with Rob Dibble and Randy Myers, Norm Charlton was part of the Cincinnati Reds "Nasty Boys" bullpen trio in 1990 and 1991.

San Antonio Madison Grad - Class of 1981

Lou also took him in at Seattle.

Is Madison at least ahead of Judson in World Series rings?;)

[lonny23]

Sorry I'm not quite getting the message...:p ...but I'll will nominate you for vocabulary post of the year...:D


I like Lou...followed him since the Reds days...and you knew this was coming...

Norman Wood Charlton III (The Sheriff)
Along with Rob Dibble and Randy Myers, Norm Charlton was part of the Cincinnati Reds "Nasty Boys" bullpen trio in 1990 and 1991.

San Antonio Madison Grad - Class of 1981

Lou also took him in at Seattle.

Is Madison at least ahead of Judson in World Series rings?;)I don't know. They might be.

[DrEdward]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2617224

Lou Pinella is going to be his replacement.

Nope. Joe is still a Yankee next season.

[slorch]

Torre story just like the headline, " DEWEY WINS" and Truman took office of the President!

Not quite the same gravity, but similar.

[yankee]

someone jumped to conclusions...

[TexasRed6x]

Nope. Joe is still a Yankee next season.
I guess I jumped the gun too early. I was watching SportsCenter and they said that according to "reports" from the New York Daily News that Torre was going to be fired and that Pinella was going to be his replacement. I guess you can't trust everything that the media puts out there.

[DragonBand06]

I guess I jumped the gun too early. I was watching SportsCenter and they said that according to "reports" from the New York Daily News that Torre was going to be fired and that Pinella was going to be his replacement. I guess you can't trust everything that the media puts out there.
Ain't that the truth!

[SVite]

I`m glad the media did`nt report that my grandfather was a grandmother.....;)