Missouri

[supercentex]

I can definitely see them in the Big 12 title game...........

Chase Daniels......too bad he didn't go to a Texas school. He is a perfect fit at Mizzou tho.

[Sacred Ground]

I can definitely see them in the Big 12 title game...........

Chase Daniels......too bad he didn't go to a Texas school. He is a perfect fit at Mizzou tho.

Mizzou recruited him heavily, because of their spread offense. They will probably try to reruit Todd Dodge's son also.

[Mean DT]

I can definitely see them in the Big 12 title game...........

Chase Daniels......too bad he didn't go to a Texas school. He is a perfect fit at Mizzou tho.
It will be Mizzou and UT, and Mizzou wil get spanked like OU.:D :D

[elprezidente]

It will be Mizzou and UT, and Mizzou wil get spanked like OU.:D :D
cuz OU SUCKS!

[ThEgReAtOnE]

It will be Mizzou and UT, and Mizzou wil get spanked like OU. :D :D

Well, it won't be that bad of a game, then.

[yankee]

i was in utter shock when the d returned those 2 picks for td's...first time i've ever seen that done live! had it not been for those int's for td's it would have been a lot closer game.

[stevefoxsc]

Well, it won't be that bad of a game, then.


They'll actually put up a fight

[Sacred Ground]

i was in utter shock when the d returned those 2 picks for td's...first time i've ever seen that done live! had it not been for those int's for td's it would have been a lot closer game.

Yes, it would have been very close!
Same result though.

Mizzou 24
Tech 21

Turnovers are part of the game!

[yankee]

They'll actually put up a fight
if i remember correctly, ou was up at halftime...and you probably weren't feeling as cocky as you are now? ou put up a fight for a while before playcalling (as i've gathered) got in the way...

[stevefoxsc]

if i remember correctly, ou was up at halftime...and you probably weren't feeling as cocky as you are now? ou put up a fight for a while before playcalling (as i've gathered) got in the way...

I watched that game first few mins texas on fire and they lost it for a the rest and it wasn't like OU was even up by 20....And if by half you mean 40 secs they were up before half was over oh sure good for them. Who came back with the same performance they had in the first few mins of the game? what was the ending result? Who won? Made the plays brought the D back up got a few interceptions? Who also got tho lateral oh no no no the refs helped us right?:cool:

Heres a song for you silly sooner and it's just like your chance for bcs bowl game " Bye Bye Bye"

[Favpack]

This should have been a dog fight between two decent teams - the two int returns was the difference.

Mizzou may win the north - but I think Nebraska is better. Texas would handle Mizzou somewhat easily IMO - too much speed and strength - they may get to find out!

[yankee]

I watched that game first few mins texas on fire and they lost it for a the rest and it wasn't like OU was even up by 20....And if by half you mean 40 secs they were up before half was over oh sure good for them. Who came back with the same performance they had in the first few mins of the game? what was the ending result? Who won? Made the plays brought the D back up got a few interceptions? Who also got tho lateral oh no no no the refs helped us right?:cool:

Heres a song for you silly sooner and it's just like your chance for bcs bowl game " Bye Bye Bye"
boy i can't wait for ut to lose again! i'm sorry....:p

[stevefoxsc]

boy i can't wait for ut to lose again! i'm sorry....:p
O-who would have lost more than the horns.

[jtk1519]

I think Graham Harrell is very, very overrated.

[lonny23]

I can definitely see them in the Big 12 title game...........

Chase Daniels......too bad he didn't go to a Texas school. He is a perfect fit at Mizzou tho.
That's because he thumbed his nose at all the Texas teams. That's why I wanted Tech to break him in two so much.

[lonny23]

Yes, it would have been very close!
Same result though.

Mizzou 24
Tech 21

Turnovers are part of the game!
Yes, turnovers are a part of the game.

The first 4 Tech turnovers turned into 28 Mizzou points (2 INT's for TD's, ball on Tech 12, and ball around Tech 40). The last one didn't matter.

Mizzou's 1 turnover turned into 7 Tech points.

No turnovers equals Tech 14 Mizzou 10.

To answer the original question, if you take away the 14 points on interceptions, you'd probably have Tech kick a FG when they turned it over on downs in the 4th and that would make it 24-24 depending on what Mizzou could do late.

In any case, I say you don't deserve to win when you turn it over FIVE times.

[Texasfrog]

Mizzou recruited him heavily, because of their spread offense. They will probably try to reruit Todd Dodge's son also.

Something tells me that Missouri is going to try and snag a couple of SLC kids every year.

Heck, with all the spread offensives in Texas now. I bet they (Mizzou) recruit Texas pretty heavy in the future.

[Texasfrog]

It will be Mizzou and UT, and Mizzou wil get spanked like OU.:D :D

Nebraska or Mizzou in the North. Texas should win the South unless they have a meltdown somewhere...

It's good to see both the Big-12 North and South have a couple of teams in the top #25.

PS. I didnt think the Big-12 North was that bad last year (2005), especially after Nebraska beat Michigan and Mizzou beat South Carolina in Bowl games. But, this year they are getting a little more national respect by the voters.

[dragons08]

That's because he thumbed his nose at all the Texas teams. That's why I wanted Tech to break him in two so much.
um, they all snubbed him first.. mizzou went after him early, and he commited. THEN texas started going after him wayyyyyyyyyyy to late only as a last resort type thing.

wishing injury upon somebody when you have no idea waht your talking about...how embarrising

[LPFAN]

um, they all snubbed him first.. mizzou went after him early, and he commited. THEN texas started going after him wayyyyyyyyyyy to late only as a last resort type thing.

wishing injury upon somebody when you have no idea waht your talking about...how embarrising
Tell me about it. Especially since I have seen him "Preach the Gospel" on here in the past.

[stevefoxsc]

That's because he thumbed his nose at all the Texas teams. That's why I wanted Tech to break him in two so much.


UT sure will break him in half :D

[Mhs06]

I think Graham Harrell is very, very overrated.

I guess everything in west texas sucks in your book huh? :p

[LoneStarProud]

I've never been a Mizzou fan but it has been fun following Chase and watching Mizzou's success. There is a lot of excitement in Columbia MO
and even though I would have liked Chase to be in Texas, he is a perfect fit up there and is having a great time. Something interesting to consider is the possibility of both Dodge's winding up at Mizzou in two years. I don't have any idea what Todd Dodge wants to do (or Riley) but it appears that if the stars aligned just right...who know's. Anyhow..I'm becoming a Mizzou fan or at least I find myself rooting for them. One thing that is for certain, the recent success and excitment in Columbia may cause some of the local Missouri talent to stay closer to home rather than go to KU, K state which I
believe has been the trend for several years.

[jtk1519]

I guess everything in west texas sucks in your book huh? :p

Lubbock is NOT West Texas. Lubbock is South Oklahoma. And yes, pretty much everything West of the Taylor/Nolan County line sucks.

[Mhs06]

Lubbock is NOT West Texas. Lubbock is South Oklahoma. And yes, pretty much everything West of the Taylor/Nolan County line sucks.

Lubbock is West Texas lol....I wouldnt be going to college here if it wasnt.

[ahsstud]

lubbock is NOT west texas. it is in the panhandle plains, making it north texas.

[jtk1519]

lubbock is NOT west texas. it is in the panhandle plains, making it north texas.

Dallas is North Texas. Lubbock is South Oklahoma.

[dragons08]

I've never been a Mizzou fan but it has been fun following Chase and watching Mizzou's success. There is a lot of excitement in Columbia MO
and even though I would have liked Chase to be in Texas, he is a perfect fit up there and is having a great time. Something interesting to consider is the possibility of both Dodge's winding up at Mizzou in two years. I don't have any idea what Todd Dodge wants to do (or Riley) but it appears that if the stars aligned just right...who know's. Anyhow..I'm becoming a Mizzou fan or at least I find myself rooting for them. One thing that is for certain, the recent success and excitment in Columbia may cause some of the local Missouri talent to stay closer to home rather than go to KU, K state which I
believe has been the trend for several years.
i've been catching myself doing the same, following mizzou, pulling for them, getting chase's stats, its pretty cool, i know ynakee is in the same boat

[Firebird]

Someone from Abilene talking smack about Lubbock...that is comical man, just comical. I even went to school in Abilene and like the town, but really. This is similar to Harlingen/Edinburg smack talk....who can tell the difference?


On a side note, EVERYWHERE in this great state is better than Austin.

"Austin, Texas-- where you can't trust anything in a skirt---me".

[elprezidente]

Someone from Abilene talking smack about Lubbock...that is comical man, just comical. I even went to school in Abilene and like the town, but really. This is similar to Harlingen/Edinburg smack talk....who can tell the difference?
harlingen is a supposed "all american city" and EVERY other city in the valley is looked at like trash by the almighty harlingen natives. treasure hills section is for over protective parents scared of normal people. the rest of harlingen is ignorant. and to sum it up

better dead then red.

[jtk1519]

Someone from Abilene talking smack about Lubbock...that is comical man, just comical. I even went to school in Abilene and like the town, but really. This is similar to Harlingen/Edinburg smack talk....who can tell the difference?

I'm not from Abilene... never have been, and I sure as hell wasn't dumb enough to choose to go to school there.

"ACU: Where the fool and his money soon part ways"

[ahsstud]

Someone from Abilene talking smack about Lubbock...that is comical man, just comical. I even went to school in Abilene and like the town, but really.

lubbock sucks plain and simple. capital of std's in the state of texas, more so than austin. flat and ugly. sand everywhere. home of the tt and some fruity lookin guy who dresses up like zorro.

and abilene is run by your beloved acu, so remember when you knock abilene you knock your school also.

[Firebird]

lubbock sucks plain and simple. capital of std's in the state of texas, more so than austin. flat and ugly. sand everywhere. home of the tt and some fruity lookin guy who dresses up like zorro.

and abilene is run by your beloved acu, so remember when you knock abilene you knock your school also.

Dude, where did I knock Abilene...since when is saying "I like the town" knocking a town. I love Abilene, and spent some of my best years there getting a college education. Get real man.

Aside from the obvious differences in terrain, it's really pretty tough to see any real difference between Lubbock and Abilene, save for the difference between private/public university. Both have a strong "univeristy town" feel. Both are centered around agriculture/education. Abilene has the Dyess, so it has that going for it. Both have about the same sort of demographic makeup, though Lubbock is quite a bit bigger. Both are centers of political conservatism and the Protestant brand of Christianity. Neither one of them could be exactly called an "oasis"...Abilene gets a bit more rain, Lubbock has a better supply of ground water. An out of region visitor just isn't going to see too many differences between the two places.

That's why I said its a little absurd for someone from Abilene (if he ain't FROM there, then he at least has significant ties to the place) to make fun of Lubbock.

[Firebird]

harlingen is a supposed "all american city" and EVERY other city in the valley is looked at like trash by the almighty harlingen natives. treasure hills section is for over protective parents scared of normal people. the rest of harlingen is ignorant. and to sum it up

better dead then red.


Ah, our resident San Benito denizen......I sure love that Freddy Fender water tower bro...

[ahsstud]

Dude, where did I knock Abilene



you compared it to lubbock, thats a no no:cool:

[Firebird]

you compared it to lubbock, thats a no no:cool:
The comparisons speak for themselves.....From city-data.com:

Lubbock:

Population (year 2000): 199,564. Estimated population in July 2005: 209,737 (+5.1% change)
Males: 97,023 (48.6%), Females: 102,541 (51.4%)

Median resident age: 29.7 years
Median household income: $31,844 (year 2000)
Median house value: $69,500 (year 2000

Races in Lubbock:

White Non-Hispanic (61.3%)
Hispanic (27.5%)
Other race (14.3%)
Black (8.7%)
Two or more races (2.0%)
American Indian (1.0%)
(Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races)

For population 25 years and over in Lubbock

High school or higher: 79.5%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 26.6%
Graduate or professional degree: 9.3%
Unemployed: 6.0%
Mean travel time to work: 16.2 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Lubbock city

Never married: 32.2%
Now married: 49.4%
Separated: 2.1%
Widowed: 6.1%
Divorced: 10.2%
3.5% Foreign born (1.5% Latin America, 1.2% Asia, 0.5% Europe).

Population change in the 1990s: +12,644 (+6.8%).

Abilene:

Population (year 2000): 115,930. Estimated population in July 2005: 114,757 (-1.0% change)
Males: 58,529 (50.5%), Females: 57,401 (49.5%)

Median resident age: 31.1 years
Median household income: $33,007 (year 2000)
Median house value: $61,100 (year 2000)

Races in Abilene:

White Non-Hispanic (68.8%)
Hispanic (19.4%)
Black (8.8%)
Other race (8.7%)
Two or more races (2.4%)
American Indian (1.1%)
(Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races)

For population 25 years and over in Abilene

High school or higher: 79.1%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 22.0%
Graduate or professional degree: 7.6%
Unemployed: 8.9%
Mean travel time to work: 15.3 minutes
For population 15 years and over in Abilene city

Never married: 26.3%
Now married: 54.0%
Separated: 1.9%
Widowed: 6.0%
Divorced: 11.8%
4.1% Foreign born (2.1% Latin America, 1.1% Asia, 0.5% Europe).

Population change in the 1990s: +9,114 (+8.5%).


They are as like as two peas in a pod. Abilene has a few knocks against it (higher unemployment, lower median house cost), as does Lubbock (lower average income). But for all intent and purposes, the similarities are striking.

[jtk1519]

This has turned into the dumbest f'n thread EVER.

[zippy]

I think Graham Harrell is very, very overrated.

No joke.

PASSES COMPLETED - SEASON (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 332 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(2) 317 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 2001
(3) 306 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 2002
(4) 304 - Phillip Daugherty, Bridgeport, 2001
(5) 300 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(6) 298 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(7) 286 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(8) 283 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby, 2003
(9) 280 - Stephen Pearce, Wylie, 2002
(10) 278 - Blake Szymanski, WF Rider, 2004


TOUCHDOWN PASSES- SEASON (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 67 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(2) 54 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(2) 54 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated, 1986
(4) 53 - Graham Harrell, Wnnis, 2001
(5) 52 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(6) 50 - Colt McCoy, Jim Ned, 2003
(6) 50 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission, 1987
(8) 49 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(8) 49 - Kelan Luker, Stephenville, 1998
(10) 48 - Manuel Johnson, Gilmer, 2004

TOUCHDOWN PASSES - GAME (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 8 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee vs. Baytown Sterling, 2001
(1) 8 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Chillicothe, 1986
(1) 8 - Jabo Leonard, Barbers Hill vs. Deweyville, 1971
7 - Manual Johnson, Gilmer vs. Tatum, 2004
7 - G.J. Kinne, Gilmer vs. Center, 2006
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. South Oak Cliff, 2003
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Mabank, 2003
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Red Oak, 2003
(2) 7 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby vs. Houston Jeff Davis, 2003
(2) 7 - Billy Garza, Brownsville Porter vs. Harlingen South, 2003
(2) 7 - Steven Vallecillos, McAllen vs. Rio Grande City, 2003
(2) 7 - Sam Tindol, Coahoma vs. Post, 2003
(2) 7 - Kyle York, Spring vs. Pasadena Dobie, 2000
(2) 7 - DJ Check, Clint vs. El Paso, 1999
(2) 7 - Hunter Wall, Coppell vs. Keller, 1999
(2) 7 - Travis Guthrie, Thrall vs. Somerville, 1998
(2) 7 - Martin Castillo, Charlotte vs. Bruni, 1998
(2) 7 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers vs. Holland, 1997
(2) 7 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission vs. McAllen, 1987
(2) 7 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission vs. Brownsville Porter, 1987
(2) 7 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Amarillo Alamo Catholic, 1986
(3) 6 - Chase Gibson, Wylie vs. Woodrow Wilson, 2004
(3) 6 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll vs. Haltom, 2004
(3) 6 - GJ Kinne, Canton vs. Athens, 2004


TOUCHDOWN PASSES - CAREER (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 167 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2000-03
(2) 116 - Colt McCoy, Jim Ned, 2002-04
(3) 114 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 1999-02
(4) 104 - Chandler Dane, Decatur, 2002-04
(5) 101 - Stephen McGee, Burnet, 2001-2003
(6) 94 - Chavis McCollister, Tenaha, 1995-98
(7) 91 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2003-04
(8) 89 - James Battle, Denton Ryan, 2000-02
86 - G.J. Kinne, Canton, 2003-2005 (Doesn't include 2006 w/Gilmer)
(9) 85 - D.J. Check, Clint, 1997-99
(10) 83 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission, 1986-87

PASSING YARDS - GAME (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 590 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Chillicothe, 1986
(2) 588 - Dwain Frazier, Houston Elmore vs. Aldine Carver, 1968
(3) 573 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Waxahachie, 2003
(4) 557 - Ty Detmer, SA Southwest vs. Pleasanton, 1986
(5) 535 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby vs. Houston Jeff Davis, 2003
(6) 522 - Koy Detmer, Mission vs. C.C. Miller, 1991
(7) 510 - Travis Guthrie, Thrall vs. Somerville, 1998
(8) 506 - Spencer Stack, Lewisville Marcus vs. The Colony, 1997
(9) 505 - Jermaine Alfred, Baytown Lee vs. Vidor, 1994
(10)503 - Marion Kinsey, LaVega vs. Waco Connally, 1998

PASSING YARDS - SEASON (ALL-TIME LEADERS)
(1) 4,822 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(2) 4,804 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(3) 4,697 - Kelan Luker, Stephenville, 1998
(4) 4,678 - Phillip Daugherty, Bridgeport, 2001
(5) 4,617 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(6) 4,477 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(7) 4,284 - Chris Sanders, Flower Mound Marcus, 1995
4,255 - G.J. Kinne, Canton, 2005
(8) 4,244 - Sxpencer Stack, Flower Mound Marcus, 1997]
(9) 4,179 - Lupe Roderiguez, Mission, 1987
(10)4,130 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby, 2003

Stats at TT6 games so far:

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Harrell, Graham 6 144.07 188-277-4 67.9 1901 18 56 316.8


He is horrible! O.V.E.R.R.A.T.E.D!!!!

[jtk1519]

Can somebody please chime in and tell me how some of the records Graham Harrell set in high school in any way relate to his performance at Texas Tech? I would love to hear the connection.

[zippy]

Can somebody please chime in and tell me how some of the records Graham Harrell set in high school in any way relate to his performance at Texas Tech? I would love to hear the connection.


His performance at TT is under this. Looks good to me.

Here again:

Stats at TT6 games so far:

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Harrell, Graham 6 144.07 188-277-4 67.9 1901 18 56 316.8

[jtk1519]

His performance at TT is under this. Looks good to me.

Here again:

Stats at TT6 games so far:

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Harrell, Graham 6 144.07 188-277-4 67.9 1901 18 56 316.8

Pointing to a Tech QB's stat line is about as useless a task as one can undertake. A three-legged monkey with hearing aids could put up crazy numbers while under center at Tech.

Apparently, I'm not the only one less than impressed with Mr Harrell's job to date...

To say that Graham struggled early in the game is an understatement. It was painful to watch, and for the first time, I wanted to see Harrell taken out of the game so Todd could get his chance. It happened, and the mere change of pace seemed to be the spark that the fans and team needed. Chris had a promising drive that unfortunately ended without points, but Harrell came back in motivated on the following possession and made a considerable effort to lead the team back into the game. However, it was too little, too late. As much steam as the QB controversy will have this week, the decision is ultimately Leach's to make.

http://texastech.scout.com/2/577079.html

Graham - :bang (bad attidude, decision making, weak arm)

Graham - :shrug he seems to telegraph his passes, that hasn't changed since tcu. I don't know if it's leach or him, but we don't seem to adjust very well mid game. He needs to learn to scramble.

GH - :bang He's becoming our version of Chris Simms.

I support Leach. I think some of the comments he has made in the past about players thinking their superstars have been directed at GH. Not the he is the only one, but I think ML has tried to coach the players and I have seen nothing about his approach that seems he will be stubborn on this. He probably thinks that GH is still the better QB, but that was the first time he has pulled a QB in 4 years. Don’t be supprised if GH continues to struggle at times (ie. TCU, Mizzou) that Leach will put in CT for some PT.

First of all, any time a QB has 3-4 seconds to throw he should not get sacked and fumble. And believe me, I counted and GH was getting sufficient time on every play he was sacked to at least get rid of the ball

Harrell :shrug Still hasn't shown me that he can read the defenses well--he made a great read on the last play against the Ags, but he made several poor ones prior to that play in that game and obviously several poor passes in the TCU and Mizzou game and I am concerned about his attitude

Harrell - Let's start being honest with each other. What we have is a kid that is average at best. What he does is throw the ball up and three to four damned good receivers run under it, i.e. RoJo at A&M. Does not look off DB's. Watched the TBS replay late Saturday night after I sobered up a bit from late tail gateing and what the TCU DB's said after that game was VERY obvious: Harrell looks the receivers down. He makes it easy for a DB to "know where the ball is going".

http://mb33.scout.com/fraiderpowerfrm2.showMessage?topicID=44086.topic

You are correct. Graham is a third year QB that has been hyped to the high heavens. If he is as good as he thinks, then he needs to produce.

Very true Fin!! It is called being a leader and GH at this point is not a leader! I think GH has what it takes to be a great qb here at TT! He needs to drop the cocky attitude and become a leader if he ever wants to achieve greatness here at TT and shut me and the rest of the booers up. His comments after the game and antics during the game are not getting it done! No accountability on his part! His postgame press conference comments reflect as much.

i hate to say it cuz im biased to graham being from the same town....but he is an a-hole...and i don't care for him as a person...and i may get hounded by ennis fans because of it...but he is a good qb and has a chance to be great if he would just lose his attitude

http://mb33.scout.com/fraiderpowerfrm2.showMessage?topicID=44105.topic

If Graham is going to be starting the next three years, we might as well not watch. He's immature, weak, lacks accuracy, and lofts his throws. What does it take to get a blue chipper here with a cannon for an arm? His receivers are wide open but by the time the ball gets there, its too late. When it does, it's behind the players or too high. How about developing some muscle strength in those arms so you don't fumble when a player hits you. How about a scramble once in awhile to keep the D honest?

http://mb33.scout.com/fraiderpowerfrm2.showMessage?topicID=44106.topic

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Bottom line, given the tremendous amount of hype Harrell received by many (myself included) leading up to this season, you can't help but say that he has, to this point, been vastly overrated. Is that his fault? No. He didn't rate himself. He was not responsible for all the hype so saying he is "overrated" is not necessarily an insult. The reality is that Harrell is much, much further away from reaching his potential than anybody expected.

[zippy]

Pointing to a Tech QB's stat line is about as useless a task as one can undertake. A three-legged monkey with hearing aids could put up crazy numbers while under center at Tech.

Bottom line, given the tremendous amount of hype Harrell received by many (myself included) leading up to this season, you can't help but say that he has, to this point, been vastly overrated. Is that his fault? No. He didn't rate himself. He was not responsible for all the hype so saying he is "overrated" is not necessarily an insult. The reality is that Harrell is much, much further away from reaching his potential than anybody expected.

I said he was overrated, what more do you need? Almost 2000 yards in 6 games at any school is good. What would impress you from him at this point? 3000 yards, 40 TD's, 96% completion %? Come on. Being almost 70%, 2000 yards, and 18 TD's in 6 games is good. No matter which school your at. Yea TT is lacking in the running game. They are pass focused. Other teams know this, and focus on it. He is still putting up these stats. Lets not forget it is still early too.

[dragonsdaddy]

I said he was overrated, what more do you need? Almost 2000 yards in 6 games at any school is good. What would impress you from him at this point? 3000 yards, 40 TD's, 96% completion %? Come on. Being almost 70%, 2000 yards, and 18 TD's in 6 games is good. No matter which school your at. Yea TT is lacking in the running game. They are pass focused. Other teams know this, and focus on it. He is still putting up these stats. Lets not forget it is still early too.
how about winning a game against any real opponent(tamu and utep) or so without having to score on the last play of the game, or not losing to a pre-season way unranked team, as you do much less than your part(except for the yardage stats) to win. or to a pretender from a no name conference, where you muscle up 1 fg with your stats. he brought a big bag of attitude which was all his dad's fault , imo, and it's not getting any better with age.

[jtk1519]

I said he was overrated, what more do you need? Almost 2000 yards in 6 games at any school is good. What would impress you from him at this point? 3000 yards, 40 TD's, 96% completion %? Come on. Being almost 70%, 2000 yards, and 18 TD's in 6 games is good. No matter which school your at. Yea TT is lacking in the running game. They are pass focused. Other teams know this, and focus on it. He is still putting up these stats. Lets not forget it is still early too.

Try actually watching a Tech game and then get back to me.

[zippy]

how about winning a game against any real opponent(tamu and utep) or so without having to score on the last play of the game, or not losing to a pre-season way unranked team, as you do much less than your part(except for the yardage stats) to win. or to a pretender from a no name conference, where you muscle up 1 fg with your stats. he brought a big bag of attitude which was all his dad's fault , imo, and it's not getting any better with age.

You can argue his play all you want, I will let him continue to prove himself, but do you know him or his dad?

[dragons08]

No joke.

PASSES COMPLETED - SEASON (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 332 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(2) 317 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 2001
(3) 306 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 2002
(4) 304 - Phillip Daugherty, Bridgeport, 2001
(5) 300 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(6) 298 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(7) 286 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(8) 283 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby, 2003
(9) 280 - Stephen Pearce, Wylie, 2002
(10) 278 - Blake Szymanski, WF Rider, 2004


TOUCHDOWN PASSES- SEASON (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 67 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(2) 54 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(2) 54 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated, 1986
(4) 53 - Graham Harrell, Wnnis, 2001
(5) 52 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(6) 50 - Colt McCoy, Jim Ned, 2003
(6) 50 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission, 1987
(8) 49 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(8) 49 - Kelan Luker, Stephenville, 1998
(10) 48 - Manuel Johnson, Gilmer, 2004

TOUCHDOWN PASSES - GAME (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 8 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee vs. Baytown Sterling, 2001
(1) 8 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Chillicothe, 1986
(1) 8 - Jabo Leonard, Barbers Hill vs. Deweyville, 1971
7 - Manual Johnson, Gilmer vs. Tatum, 2004
7 - G.J. Kinne, Gilmer vs. Center, 2006
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. South Oak Cliff, 2003
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Mabank, 2003
(2) 7 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Red Oak, 2003
(2) 7 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby vs. Houston Jeff Davis, 2003
(2) 7 - Billy Garza, Brownsville Porter vs. Harlingen South, 2003
(2) 7 - Steven Vallecillos, McAllen vs. Rio Grande City, 2003
(2) 7 - Sam Tindol, Coahoma vs. Post, 2003
(2) 7 - Kyle York, Spring vs. Pasadena Dobie, 2000
(2) 7 - DJ Check, Clint vs. El Paso, 1999
(2) 7 - Hunter Wall, Coppell vs. Keller, 1999
(2) 7 - Travis Guthrie, Thrall vs. Somerville, 1998
(2) 7 - Martin Castillo, Charlotte vs. Bruni, 1998
(2) 7 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers vs. Holland, 1997
(2) 7 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission vs. McAllen, 1987
(2) 7 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission vs. Brownsville Porter, 1987
(2) 7 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Amarillo Alamo Catholic, 1986
(3) 6 - Chase Gibson, Wylie vs. Woodrow Wilson, 2004
(3) 6 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll vs. Haltom, 2004
(3) 6 - GJ Kinne, Canton vs. Athens, 2004


TOUCHDOWN PASSES - CAREER (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 167 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2000-03
(2) 116 - Colt McCoy, Jim Ned, 2002-04
(3) 114 - Drew Tate, Baytown Lee, 1999-02
(4) 104 - Chandler Dane, Decatur, 2002-04
(5) 101 - Stephen McGee, Burnet, 2001-2003
(6) 94 - Chavis McCollister, Tenaha, 1995-98
(7) 91 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2003-04
(8) 89 - James Battle, Denton Ryan, 2000-02
86 - G.J. Kinne, Canton, 2003-2005 (Doesn't include 2006 w/Gilmer)
(9) 85 - D.J. Check, Clint, 1997-99
(10) 83 - Lupe Rodriguez, Mission, 1986-87

PASSING YARDS - GAME (ALL-TIME STATE LEADERS)
(1) 590 - Kirk Saul, Valley Consolidated vs. Chillicothe, 1986
(2) 588 - Dwain Frazier, Houston Elmore vs. Aldine Carver, 1968
(3) 573 - Graham Harrell, Ennis vs. Waxahachie, 2003
(4) 557 - Ty Detmer, SA Southwest vs. Pleasanton, 1986
(5) 535 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby vs. Houston Jeff Davis, 2003
(6) 522 - Koy Detmer, Mission vs. C.C. Miller, 1991
(7) 510 - Travis Guthrie, Thrall vs. Somerville, 1998
(8) 506 - Spencer Stack, Lewisville Marcus vs. The Colony, 1997
(9) 505 - Jermaine Alfred, Baytown Lee vs. Vidor, 1994
(10)503 - Marion Kinsey, LaVega vs. Waco Connally, 1998

PASSING YARDS - SEASON (ALL-TIME LEADERS)
(1) 4,822 - Chase Wasson, Southlake Carroll, 2002
(2) 4,804 - Graham Harrell, Ennis, 2003
(3) 4,697 - Kelan Luker, Stephenville, 1998
(4) 4,678 - Phillip Daugherty, Bridgeport, 2001
(5) 4,617 - Chase Daniel, Southlake Carroll, 2004
(6) 4,477 - Patrick Hutka, Rogers, 1997
(7) 4,284 - Chris Sanders, Flower Mound Marcus, 1995
4,255 - G.J. Kinne, Canton, 2005
(8) 4,244 - Sxpencer Stack, Flower Mound Marcus, 1997]
(9) 4,179 - Lupe Roderiguez, Mission, 1987
(10)4,130 - Kellen Haynes, Crosby, 2003

Stats at TT6 games so far:

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Harrell, Graham 6 144.07 188-277-4 67.9 1901 18 56 316.8


He is horrible! O.V.E.R.R.A.T.E.D!!!!

how updated is that? i THINK greg mcelroy broke one of those records, any slc posters have an idea?

[farmerfan]

how updated is that? i THINK greg mcelroy broke one of those records, any slc posters have an idea?

I believe Mac broke the 5A record but not the overall Texas record.

[jtk1519]

Those stats managed to include the 4200+ yards GJ Kinne threw for in 2005 while failing to make mention of the 4600+ yards Greg McElroy threw for in that same year. No mention of his 56 TD passes last year or the 308 passes he completed in 2005 leading one to wonder from whose a** these numbers were pulled. All that while just ignoring the atrocious spelling errors (Who the hell is "Sxpencer Stack" and just where is "Wnnis"?). Regardless those stats are even more irrelevant than they were 5 minutes ago and since they had no relevance then, they are really good for nothing now.

[Firebird]

A qb is always overrated after a loss.

Harrell has not impressed me in a lot of games this season, but then again, none of Tech's units has, with the possible exception of RB, and that only because I had very low expectations to begin with.

Tech fans need to step back from the edge and repeat...He's...Only....a Soph. I expect some immaturity and streakiness in a sophomore. At times, Harrell has shown the kind of poise needed from a Tech qb. Case in point...his calm demeanor and beautiful touch in the last drive against A&M. Other times he has looked like a deer in the headlights. It certainly isn't helping him that the OL is thin and not doing their jobs.

It proves NOTHING....NOTHING jtk that you can find posts on other message boards where people are bashing Harrell. During Superman's soph. season, the Horn forums were littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever. I am in no way predicting that Harrell is another VY, but I do think that a lot of the haters are going to sing another tune in two years.

The key will be next spring drills...If Harrell can't grow up this season and outshine the others in spring drills next season, I'll admit my mistake. I'm just glad that Tech has the likes of Shaw, Todd, and Potts waiting in the wings.

Harrell has shown me that he has both a lot of growth and a lot of potential. Where I am really disappointed is in the actions of his upperclassmen teammates, who should be guiding the team and setting the standard in discipline. It is no surprise that the young qb is following the other guys lead in lacking focus.

[zippy]

Those stats managed to include the 4200+ yards GJ Kinne threw for in 2005 while failing to make mention of the 4600+ yards Greg McElroy threw for in that same year. No mention of his 56 TD passes last year or the 308 passes he completed in 2005 leading one to wonder from whose a** these numbers were pulled. All that while just ignoring the atrocious spelling errors (Who the hell is "Sxpencer Stack" and just where is "Wnnis"?). Regardless those stats are even more irrelevant than they were 5 minutes ago and since they had no relevance then, they are really good for nothing now.


Maybe the guy didnt like McElroy, I dont know. If you want to sit and figure out stats since the beginning of history and put it all together, let me know. I will use yours instead. Dont make any spelling errors either in the million word work. You said he was overrated, you did not mention as a HS player, or college player. I dont think he is at either one. Its over, find something else to bash on. They are irrelevant like you said, so does it matter?

[twcpfan1]

During Superman's soph. season, the Horn forums were littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever. I am in no way predicting that Harrell is another VY, but I do think that a lot of the haters are going to sing another tune in two years.



At around the same time, weren't they calling for Mack Brown's head too? Amazing how things have progressed since.

[jtk1519]

It proves NOTHING....NOTHING jtk that you can find posts on other message boards where people are bashing Harrell. During Superman's soph. season, the Horn forums were littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever. I am in no way predicting that Harrell is another VY, but I do think that a lot of the haters are going to sing another tune in two years.

What?!?! You're joking right? Texas fans saying Vince should have been moved to WR?!?! I haven't heard something that stupid since John Kerry's infamous "I did vote for the $87 billion... before I voted against it" nonsense. I applaud your vivid imagination and your ability to see an alternate world that none of us lives in.

Texas fans were griping about Greg Davis' handling of Vince and Mack's refusal to b*tch slap and/or fire Davis. The only people saying Vince should move to WR were aggy and a few morons on ESPiN. Texas fans saying Vince should move to WR... wow, just wow.

[Firebird]

What?!?! You're joking right? Texas fans saying Vince should have been moved to WR?!?! I haven't heard something that stupid since John Kerry's infamous "I did vote for the $87 billion... before I voted against it" nonsense. I applaud your vivid imagination and your ability to see an alternate world that none of us lives in.

Texas fans were griping about Greg Davis' handling of Vince and Mack's refusal to b*tch slap and/or fire Davis. The only people saying Vince should move to WR were aggy and a few morons on ESPiN. Texas fans saying Vince should move to WR... wow, just wow.


Your ability to deny reality astonishes me. Just because YOU didn't do it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[jtk1519]

Your ability to deny reality astonishes me. Just because YOU didn't do it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Nobody did it, but that won't stop you from making stuff up (lying), so carry on.

[Firebird]

Nobody did it, but that won't stop you from making stuff up (lying), so carry on.

You are right, JTK. No Longhorn fan, ever, on the internet called for Young's move. And what is more, apparently you have the knowledge to proclaim it so..... did you invent the internet too:rolleyes:

[BeauxGeezy]

I don't remember anybody.........at any point demanding or even mumbling that Vince should be moved to receiver.

Well......I take that back. aggy said it a lot....they also said Reggie was 10x better than Vince.

I've been around a boatload of Longhorns fans and no one........NO ONE....ever said anything about Vince moving to WR.

Greg Davis?...yeah they (we) were all over him. But NEVER Vince.

[BeauxGeezy]

You are right, JTK. No Longhorn fan, ever, on the internet called for Young's move. And what is more, apparently you have the knowledge to proclaim it so..... did you invent the internet too:rolleyes:


Hornfans.com has been around a while now....go over there and ask around. There are a few Sooners fans that post quite often...they will tell that this is utter BS. NOBODY said Vince should move to WR. I would remember something that dumb being said.

[HUM398]

I don't remember anybody.........at any point demanding or even mumbling that Vince should be moved to receiver.

Well......I take that back. aggy said it a lot....they also said Reggie was 10x better than Vince.

I've been around a boatload of Longhorns fans and no one........NO ONE....ever said anything about Vince moving to WR.

Greg Davis?...yeah they (we) were all over him. But NEVER Vince.

Oh how ignorant they were....

[jtk1519]

I don't remember anybody.........at any point demanding or even mumbling that Vince should be moved to receiver.

Well......I take that back. aggy said it a lot....they also said Reggie was 10x better than Vince.

I've been around a boatload of Longhorns fans and no one........NO ONE....ever said anything about Vince moving to WR.

Greg Davis?...yeah they (we) were all over him. But NEVER Vince.

Shhh. Let him dream Geezy... let him dream.

There are three main Texas boards that have been around for a while in one form or another... Hornfans, Orangebloods and Inside Texas. I have been reading all of those boards for several years, some since the late 90s, and never... NEVER in history have any of those boards been "littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever" as our resident fiction author so boldy claims. However, like I said, that wont keep the dreamers (liars) from spreading their baseless nonesense. Just let him dream.

[lonny23]

um, they all snubbed him first.. mizzou went after him early, and he commited. THEN texas started going after him wayyyyyyyyyyy to late only as a last resort type thing.

wishing injury upon somebody when you have no idea waht your talking about...how embarrising
OK, how about this. I went to the Evangel-Longview game in Sep 04. He had already decided to go to Mizzou before that. Yes, Texas came on the scene the last week after Perriloux stiffed them. He didn't want to stay in state.

[lonny23]

Lubbock is NOT West Texas. Lubbock is South Oklahoma. And yes, pretty much everything West of the Taylor/Nolan County line sucks.
I look at it this way. Everybody has their likes. I like West Texas. Some don't.

[lonny23]

Dude, where did I knock Abilene...since when is saying "I like the town" knocking a town. I love Abilene, and spent some of my best years there getting a college education. Get real man.

Aside from the obvious differences in terrain, it's really pretty tough to see any real difference between Lubbock and Abilene, save for the difference between private/public university. Both have a strong "univeristy town" feel. Both are centered around agriculture/education. Abilene has the Dyess, so it has that going for it. Both have about the same sort of demographic makeup, though Lubbock is quite a bit bigger. Both are centers of political conservatism and the Protestant brand of Christianity. Neither one of them could be exactly called an "oasis"...Abilene gets a bit more rain, Lubbock has a better supply of ground water. An out of region visitor just isn't going to see too many differences between the two places.

That's why I said its a little absurd for someone from Abilene (if he ain't FROM there, then he at least has significant ties to the place) to make fun of Lubbock.I look at Abilene, Lubbock, and Wichita Falls as being the same. I like all 3. All 3 have had Air Force bases and 2 still do.

[lonny23]

Tell me about it. Especially since I have seen him "Preach the Gospel" on here in the past.
I shouldn't have said it or felt that way. None of us are perfect and that includes getting mad about stuff.

[lonny23]

Ah, our resident San Benito denizen......I sure love that Freddy Fender water tower bro...
Yeah, I've taken a few pictures of the water tower.

[lonny23]

Can somebody please chime in and tell me how some of the records Graham Harrell set in high school in any way relate to his performance at Texas Tech? I would love to hear the connection.
It just means he was great in high school, but that means nothing for college. Hopefully, he can start playing the same way.

[lonny23]

how about winning a game against any real opponent(tamu and utep) or so without having to score on the last play of the game, or not losing to a pre-season way unranked team, as you do much less than your part(except for the yardage stats) to win. or to a pretender from a no name conference, where you muscle up 1 fg with your stats. he brought a big bag of attitude which was all his dad's fault , imo, and it's not getting any better with age.
I agree with that. You could see his cockiness in the A&M game and I had a VERY GOOD view of him during that game.

[lonny23]

A qb is always overrated after a loss.

Harrell has not impressed me in a lot of games this season, but then again, none of Tech's units has, with the possible exception of RB, and that only because I had very low expectations to begin with.

Tech fans need to step back from the edge and repeat...He's...Only....a Soph. I expect some immaturity and streakiness in a sophomore. At times, Harrell has shown the kind of poise needed from a Tech qb. Case in point...his calm demeanor and beautiful touch in the last drive against A&M. Other times he has looked like a deer in the headlights. It certainly isn't helping him that the OL is thin and not doing their jobs.

It proves NOTHING....NOTHING jtk that you can find posts on other message boards where people are bashing Harrell. During Superman's soph. season, the Horn forums were littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever. I am in no way predicting that Harrell is another VY, but I do think that a lot of the haters are going to sing another tune in two years.

The key will be next spring drills...If Harrell can't grow up this season and outshine the others in spring drills next season, I'll admit my mistake. I'm just glad that Tech has the likes of Shaw, Todd, and Potts waiting in the wings.

Harrell has shown me that he has both a lot of growth and a lot of potential. Where I am really disappointed is in the actions of his upperclassmen teammates, who should be guiding the team and setting the standard in discipline. It is no surprise that the young qb is following the other guys lead in lacking focus.I'm waiting for Stefan Loucks to show up. I like that guy's game.

[lonny23]

What?!?! You're joking right? Texas fans saying Vince should have been moved to WR?!?! I haven't heard something that stupid since John Kerry's infamous "I did vote for the $87 billion... before I voted against it" nonsense. I applaud your vivid imagination and your ability to see an alternate world that none of us lives in.

Texas fans were griping about Greg Davis' handling of Vince and Mack's refusal to b*tch slap and/or fire Davis. The only people saying Vince should move to WR were aggy and a few morons on ESPiN. Texas fans saying Vince should move to WR... wow, just wow.
I was living in San Antonio and UT fans said he should move to WR. Not all did, but I do know of UT fans who did.

[lonny23]

You are right, JTK. No Longhorn fan, ever, on the internet called for Young's move. And what is more, apparently you have the knowledge to proclaim it so..... did you invent the internet too:rolleyes:
I know they said it because I heard it. The fact that ESPN said it is going to get some UT fans to say the same thing. The guys on the radio in SA wanted him to move. Guys in Dallas and Houston wanted him to move. Even I thought he should move to WR.

[lonny23]

Hornfans.com has been around a while now....go over there and ask around. There are a few Sooners fans that post quite often...they will tell that this is utter BS. NOBODY said Vince should move to WR. I would remember something that dumb being said.
I don't read hornfans, but I heard a good rumble about moving him a few years back. It was just in conversation with Longhorn fans and what some of the media were saying.

[lonny23]

Shhh. Let him dream Geezy... let him dream.

There are three main Texas boards that have been around for a while in one form or another... Hornfans, Orangebloods and Inside Texas. I have been reading all of those boards for several years, some since the late 90s, and never... NEVER in history have any of those boards been "littered with armchair QB's demmanding his move to reciever" as our resident fiction author so boldy claims. However, like I said, that wont keep the dreamers (liars) from spreading their baseless nonesense. Just let him dream.
It's pretty strong words to keep calling people liars when you don't spend 24 hours a day with them. I bet I heard them say that about VY when I would go to The Valley, too. They're big on UT football in The Valley.

[dragonsdaddy]

OK, how about this. I went to the Evangel-Longview game in Sep 04. He had already decided to go to Mizzou before that. Yes, Texas came on the scene the last week after Perriloux stiffed them. He didn't want to stay in state.
lonnie, please don't make statements about things of which several of us are infinitely more aware and informed. you can fool some of the people some of the time, but i know this situation as well or better than any one on here. you are incorrect.

[lonny23]

lonnie, please don't make statements about things of which several of us are infinitely more aware and informed. you can fool some of the people some of the time, but i know this situation as well or better than any one on here. you are incorrect.
Here's what I can say. I sat next to SLC fans at that Evangel game who also like Mizzou. They told me he was going to Mizzou. That's what ended up happening. I can't say that he was 100% solid on the Tigers at that time, but I do know what they told me was what happened. I don't claim to know all the ins and outs of his situation. I can't tell you who did or didn't give him an offer.

[elprezidente]

Ah, our resident San Benito denizen......I sure love that Freddy Fender water tower bro...
i wake up to that b**** every morning. wasted days and wasted nights i guess.

BETTER DEAD THEN RED!

in case you forgot.

[Firebird]

BETTER DEAD THEN RED!



Better 54-18-5 :) against your rival than 18-54-5:(

In case YOU forgot.

[jtk1519]

I don't know why Chase wasn't recruited by any Texas schools. I know he is short and most big programs just don't like short QBs, but Chase has a very solid build (much better than Drew Tate or Reggie McNeal coming out of high school) and all the tools to play college football. He had an above average arm (a damn good arm IMO) and above average football IQ and above average speed.

Looking at his offers (per Scout), the kid had offers from Mizzou, Northwestern, Oklahoma State and Stanford. Not exactly football powers. Which makes me wonder if there wasn't something else. I don't think he could have been considered a grade risk, but maybe he was labeled an attitude problem (that really hurt Drew Tate during the recruiting process) or a product of the system (though I find that hard to believe since Texas, Tech and aggy all run spread offenses). In the end, maybe Chase was just hurt by timing. aggy already had James Van Der Beek, Tech already had Graham Harrell and the dirt grabbers already had Rhett Bomar.

As for Texas, the process was very simple... they wanted 2 QBs in the 2005 signing class and Chase was #3 on their wish list. #1 was Ryan Periliar and #2 was colt. Colt committed very early on and the liar followed suit. Chase wanted to play for Texas and said so public numerous times, but with Colt a solid commit and Periliar constantly confirming his commitment with the coaches, Texas never pursued Daniel. About a week before signing day when the Texas coaches started feeling like they were going to get stiffed, Mack contacted coach Dodge and then Chase. Mack asked Chase if he had any interest in coming to Texas and Chase told him that his intent was to honor his commitment to Mizzou. Mack said thanks and never offered him a scholarship. That was the extent of Texas' recruitment of Chase Daniel.

Mack has since said publicly that he regrets the way that process was handled. They put all their eggs in one basket and they were left with egg on their face when Periliar pulled his stunt. All that being said, as good as Chase has been so far at Mizzou, I don't think any of the Texas coaches are kicking themselves right now for letting him get away. Harrell has struggled some at Texas, but Leach likes him and they have Chris Todd and Taylor Potts behind him. aggy is very happy with James Van Der Beek though I'm sure they wish they had a little bit more depth, especially since Fran is intent on running an offense designed to kill the QB and Jamie McCoy likely leaving. Texas could not be happier with their QB situation. Colt has performed far better than anybody expected and they have Jevan Snead and Sherrod Harris on the roster with John Brantley and John Chiles coming in. The only regional team that might be kicking themselves right now is Mobilhoma. After what happened with Bomar, I'm sure Robert would kill for the chance to have Chase though I don't know if the land thieves even bothered pursuing Chase or if he would have even entertained any thoughts of going North of the border.

In the end, I think Chase is in the perfect situation... both for him and the school. The Texas schools are happy with who they have, Chase and Mizzou are doing well and ou continues to suck. All is right with the world.

[elprezidente]

Better 54-18-5 :) against your rival than 18-54-5:(

In case YOU forgot.


wait who won
was the score this year??!!?? was it 29 to 0

most of those games i wasnt alive to see so they dont matter to me. especially the 70-mid 80's. don come at me with that.

[elprezidente]

and better dead then red

[dragons08]

OK, how about this. I went to the Evangel-Longview game in Sep 04. He had already decided to go to Mizzou before that. Yes, Texas came on the scene the last week after Perriloux stiffed them. He didn't want to stay in state.
i recall his dream being to play for UT, but he was snubbed, early, mizzou came after him, stuck with his commitment like a man..