God I hate Greag Davis

[Mad Hatter]

I hate him, i hate him, i hate him :mad:

hes so conservative it makes me sick to my stomach.

[Matthew 2000 Eagle]

I hate him, i hate him, i hate him :mad:

hes so conservative it makes me sick to my stomach.
I said it before Vince, with Vince, and after Vince. Coach Davis and Coach Brown suck. I love the Horns, but good GOD!

[Diablos]

I said it before Vince, with Vince, and after Vince. Coach Davis and Coach Brown suck. I love the Horns, but good GOD!



The sooner they get rid of those two...the better......then I can actually feel good about Texas AGAIN.

[Mad Hatter]

mack brown is fine its greg davis. I dont care if he wins 10 games a season with that conservative bs crap game calling. I want an offensive coordinator who has some balls and isnt afraid to lose.

[Diablos]

mack brown is fine its greg davis. I dont care if he wins 10 games a season with that conservative bs crap game calling. I want an offensive coordinator who has some balls and isnt afraid to lose.



Dont forget who keeps him on the staff.

[Texasfrog]

I hate him, i hate him, i hate him :mad:

hes so conservative it makes me sick to my stomach.

I totally agree with you.. THe guy makes me freaking sick as Hell. Why doesnt he throw the football down the freaking field. At least take shots to loosen up the "D".

He sucks..

[SeguinMatadors]

I said it before Vince, with Vince, and after Vince. Coach Davis and Coach Brown suck. I love the Horns, but good GOD!

Ditto. Mack and Davis are terrible football coaches....

[Diablos]

I totally agree with you.. THe guy makes me freaking sick as Hell. Why doesnt he throw the football down the freaking field. At least take shots to loosen up the "D".

He sucks..



He can't. He's got a freshman qb in the biggest game of his life and an experienced defense.

[Texasfrog]

He can't. He's got a freshman qb in the biggest game of his life and an experienced defense.

Ya, ya, ya.. he can just keep playing into every teams Defense then. I mean every freaking pass that Texas throws is freaking 5 yards toward the sidelines.

The only pass thrown 20 yards down the freaking field was on a "broken play" that was probably suppose to be a freaking screen pass.

Swing passes to RB's, 5 yards out's or stops and freaking slip-screens are the Texas passing attack. Oh ya, 25 yard fades that never work.

Texas has no 10 yard crossing patterns or 15 yard digs and where the HELL is Shipley & Findley ????? Maybe we should take their scholarships back if we aint going to use them. Let them go to freaking Houston, Tx Tech or Baylor where they will get some passes thrown to them.

[Mad Hatter]

is it just me or does anyone else think that Texas needs to line up in the ACE formation all the time its better for running the ball in my opinion.

[businesstron]

is it just me or does anyone else think that Texas needs to line up in the ACE formation all the time its better for running the ball in my opinion.


They kind of sucked running from the ace formation today. They doing ok now in the 4th but they sucked the rest of the time.

They need to diversify those pass routes and Colt needs to stop looking at Sweed so much that might hurt him later on this year.

[jtk1519]

I sure wish Texas had beaten the land thieves today. I'm so tired of the children crying after a loss. Oh, wait...

Yawn.

[BeauxGeezy]

I sure wish Texas had beaten the land thieves today. I'm so tired of the children crying after a loss. Oh, wait...

Yawn.


fake *** fans bro...fake *** fans.

[jtk1519]

fake *** fans bro...fake *** fans.

Word.

[Favpack]

MH - poor thread choice in the first qtr. dude. Davis called a solid game plan - he's not freaking Houdini - the players have to execute.

[LeanderLions3033]

Greg davis did call a solid game today, but i agree that if UT got rid of him the offense would be amazing. I like Mack. I'll let him be "Mr. February" and he can continue to recruit players like VInce Young, Jamaal Charles, Michael Huff or Griffin etc. If he has good enough coaches around him (like Chizik) then UT will be fine for a long time. But yes Davis has to go sooner rather then later.

[jtk1519]

The reality is that not only is Colt trying to get this offense down and learn what he can do, but so is Greg Davis. The reality is that Greg Davis installed this offense when Vince was here. He's never run this offense with any QB except Vince. Davis has to learn how to run this offense with somebody other than Vince.

Colt cannot do a lot of the things Vince can and did do. It is taking these early game for Colt and Greg to really see what this offense is capable of and how it can be used and you can clearly see from week to week the progress that is being made. Today, just like last week and the week before, we saw new wrinkles in the offense. New plays and new formations. Better halftime adjustments. Colt will never "wow" you and odds are GD never will either, but don't look now... they're getting the job done.

Prior to this game... top 20 in total offense, top 4 in passing efficiency, top 4 in scoring offense, etc. All with no Vince and a freshmen QB. I'll take it.

[Texasfrog]

The reality is that not only is Colt trying to get this offense down and learn what he can do, but so is Greg Davis. The reality is that Greg Davis installed this offense when Vince was here. He's never run this offense with any QB except Vince. Davis has to learn how to run this offense with somebody other than Vince.

Colt cannot do a lot of the things Vince can and did do. It is taking these early game for Colt and Greg to really see what this offense is capable of and how it can be used and you can clearly see from week to week the progress that is being made. Today, just like last week and the week before, we saw new wrinkles in the offense. New plays and new formations. Better halftime adjustments. Colt will never "wow" you and odds are GD never will either, but don't look now... they're getting the job done.

Prior to this game... top 20 in total offense, top 4 in passing efficiency, top 4 in scoring offense, etc. All with no Vince and a freshmen QB. I'll take it.

You're singing to the choir with all of this. I think everyone pretty much knows what the deal is.

My problem is Greg Davis seems scared to really challenge teams down the field (20 yards or further) with passes. In the first half I dont think they threw 1 pass (except the broken play) that went 20 yards. It was all little 5 yard stuff and started looking a lot like the Ohio St game all over again. A really conservative offense and not giving some of the play-makers chances. Defensives are stacking freaking 8 people in the box and keeping Texas in check.

But...... look what happened in the 2nd half. Texas starts challenging Oklahoma down the field and wha-laa Texas has 2 nice touchdowns passes down the field (Sweed & Shipley).

My problem is I think Colt McCoy and throw the ball downfield pretty darn good. Especially when Texas can get play-action rolling.

In fact I think Colt McCoy can actually throw a better deep pass then Vince Young as far as putting touch on it and givng his receivers a very good chance. Greg Davis just needs to allow the kid to throw it down the field and not be so damn conservative all the time.

[BeauxGeezy]

What the "DEAL" is...
is that Mack Brown can't win the big game...and without Vince...he is nothing....and even with Vince...he was nothing.

[jtk1519]

Colt does not have a great arm... that is a fact. He can throw a deep fade or lob it up when there is a missed assignment, but he cannot throw a strong dart down the field. It is that simple. Mike Leach never asked Kliff Kingsbury to constantly beat teams deep. It wasn't because he was scared or conservative, but simply because he knew the limitations of his QB.

Every QB has limitations somewhere and GD is finding Colt's and learning how to plan around them. Colt may not have the strongest arm, but he has a tremendously accurate arm (70% completion rate, 12 TDs to just 2 INTs, better than a 170 passer rating) and that is why you see GD calling the high percentage, shorter passes that Colt excels at. When something is open deep, Colt will go for it, but he doesn't force it and GD isn't asking him to. That is not the sign of a scared or conservative play caller, that is the sign of a smart play caller.

[Texasfrog]

Colt does not have a great arm... that is a fact. He can throw a deep fade or lob it up when there is a missed assignment, but he cannot throw a strong dart down the field. It is that simple. Mike Leach never asked Kliff Kingsbury to constantly beat teams deep. It wasn't because he was scared or conservative, but simply because he knew the limitations of his QB.

Every QB has limitations somewhere and GD is finding Colt's and learning how to plan around them. Colt may not have the strongest arm, but he has a tremendously accurate arm (70% completion rate, 12 TDs to just 2 INTs, better than a 170 passer rating) and that is why you see GD calling the high percentage, shorter passes that Colt excels at. When something is open deep, Colt will go for it, but he doesn't force it and GD isn't asking him to. That is not the sign of a scared or conservative play caller, that is the sign of a smart play caller.

I never said that Colt McCoy has John Elways or Dan Marinos arm. I know the kid aint going to throw 50 yd darts down the field.

I do think the kid throws a very good 25 yard & 30 yard pass down the field with nice touch.. He is accurate with the football when given the time to throw. He has proven that a few times when given the chance. He is a lot like Major Applewhite in that sense.

Greg Davis seems to start games with a very conservative attitude. The whole first half was very conservative and I dont think (I dont recall) one pass that was down the field more then 15 yards (except the broken play).

In the 2nd half it was like a totally different offensive plan. Texas came out and actually attacked Oklahoma down the field and it worked. Oklahoma was stacking all those players in the box and playaction killed them.

But, the first half was looking like Ohio St all over again. To conservative with the play calling.

So again... I think Colt McCoy can throw a very good ball 25 & 30 yards down the field and put it right on the money 80% of the time. I think OC-Greg Davis needs to give him and the WR's more of a chance earlier in games (like in the 1st half).

[jtk1519]

I never said that Colt McCoy has John Elways or Dan Marinos arm. I know the kid aint going to throw 50 yd darts down the field.

I do think the kid throws a very good 25 yard & 30 yard pass down the field with nice touch.. He is accurate with the football when given the time to throw. He has proven that a few times when given the chance. He is a lot like Major Applewhite in that sense.

Greg Davis seems to start games with a very conservative attitude. The whole first half was very conservative and I dont think (I dont recall) one pass that was down the field more then 15 yards (except the broken play).

In the 2nd half it was like a totally different offensive plan. Texas came out and actually attacked Oklahoma down the field and it worked. Oklahoma was stacking all those players in the box and playaction killed them.

But, the first half was looking like Ohio St all over again. To conservative with the play calling.

So again... I think Colt McCoy can throw a very good ball 25 & 30 yards down the field and put it right on the money 80% of the time. I think OC-Greg Davis needs to give him and the WR's more of a chance earlier in games (like in the 1st half).

I can throw a good pass 30 yards down a field... any QB with more than 2 fingers on his throwing hand can. Colt can throw a beautiful 40 yard pass and hit the receiver in perfect stride. That's not the issue. The issue is can he throw a frozen rope 30 yards when his receiver doesn't have a lot of separation. He really can't. The question of his arm has little to do with how far he can throw it, but rather how hard he can throw it. If you are going to throw down field, you can't just throw fades and lobs all game long. You have to be able to fire a bullet across the field so that the DB doesn't have time to catch up and make a play. That is where Colt has a harder time. That pass you saw today on 3rd and long where Colt escaped the pressure and then threw a 16 yard dart to the Quan is about as hard a ball as you will ever see Colt throw and part of the velocity came from his "Oh sh**" gland which had to be pumping like crazy.

You are really seeing now the impact Vince Young had on a game. Vince was such a mobile threat that DBs had to pay special attention to him. Because of that, receivers were constantly wide open and Vince wasn't asked to throw a lot of "thread the needle" type passes. With that mobile threat much less of a factor now, DBs are able to focus on the WRs and as a result, you aren't seeing the receivers getting near the seperation they did last year. That is why GD is calling and Colt is checking down to high percentage plays. You saw that in the Ohio State game. OSU played the WRs good and Colt would check down to the high percentage play. The game plan was great, but the execution was poor. They have lived and learned and it is becoming more and more obvious each passing week.

[Texasfrog]

I can throw a good pass 30 yards down a field... any QB with more than 2 fingers on his throwing hand can. Colt can throw a beautiful 40 yard pass and hit the receiver in perfect stride. That's not the issue. The issue is can he throw a frozen rope 30 yards when his receiver doesn't have a lot of separation. He really can't. The question of his arm has little to do with how far he can throw it, but rather how hard he can throw it. If you are going to throw down field, you can't just throw fades and lobs all game long. You have to be able to fire a bullet across the field so that the DB doesn't have time to catch up and make a play. That is where Colt has a harder time. That pass you saw today on 3rd and long where Colt escaped the pressure and then threw a 16 yard dart to the Quan is about as hard a ball as you will ever see Colt throw and part of the velocity came from his "Oh sh**" gland which had to be pumping like crazy.

You are really seeing now the impact Vince Young had on a game. Vince was such a mobile threat that DBs had to pay special attention to him. Because of that, receivers were constantly wide open and Vince wasn't asked to throw a lot of "thread the needle" type passes. With that mobile threat much less of a factor now, DBs are able to focus on the WRs and as a result, you aren't seeing the receivers getting near the seperation they did last year. That is why GD is calling and Colt is checking down to high percentage plays. You saw that in the Ohio State game. OSU played the WRs good and Colt would check down to the high percentage play. The game plan was great, but the execution was poor. They have lived and learned and it is becoming more and more obvious each passing week.


You aint going to get on that field with all those dudes (O-line, D-line and LB's with blitz packages) in your face and throw a nice 30 yard pass down the field. You aint that good and please dont try to make it sound like it's just that easy that anyone with 2 fingers can do it.

Yes, OC-Davis is way way way to conservative with his game calling. Everyone could see it and in the 2nd half he actually opened up the offense some and went more vertical and look what happened. It opened up the game and the Texas offense. He needs to do that in the 1st half some and throw on (1st & 2nd down more down the field and not little 3 yard stops or swings).

PS. I suggest you take a look at former college and NFL QB's like Pennington, Detmer brothers and a many many others that didnt have a rocket arm but they could hit their WR's 40 yards down the field with little seperation. I think Colt McCoy has that accuracy and touch that he can also throw a nice 30 yard pass down the field and hit his players. He just needs to be given the chance more by his OC (Greg Davis) to do it.

[jtk1519]

If you go back and watch all of the games, you will see that the offense is stretching the field more and more each game. Remember those quick passes against OSU? How many did you see thrown against the land grabbers? As this season has progressed the routes have gone deeper while still maintaining their high degree of accuracy. Like I've been saying all along, will Colt gets more comfortable with the deep ball, they when become more frequent. Right now, they are playing to the strengths of the offense and allowing things to develop as they go. The offense changes a little every week and becomes a bit more aggressive every week. Now, Texas is 5-1, on the verge of the top 5 and near the top of the nation in almost every offensive category. Only Texas fans could be aware of that and still complain. :D

[jtk1519]

This will give credence to you "Davis was too conservative" guys...

Brown thought offensive coordinator Greg Davis was being too conservative with McCoy, so he told him at halftime to let the kid loose. McCoy responded with his longest play yet on his first snap of the third quarter and built from there.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/recap?gid=200610070024

[Texasfrog]

This will give credence to you "Davis was too conservative" guys...



http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/recap?gid=200610070024

Wow.. just what I said before you posted that.

In the first half Greg Davis was wayyyy to conservative like he is 95% of the time.

It took the Head Coach to slap him in the face and say "let it go" and whooaa look what happen. The Texas offense opens up and creates a totally different game. Everyone that knows football could see that the offense game plan of the 1st half and the offense plan of the 2nd half were complete opposites.

Now if Greg Davis will put the memory chip into his brain for the next few games and keep attacking defensives I'll be happy. Texas still have a few games on the schedule that are going to be pretty tough.

I like to see Texas attacking teams down the field on 1st down and even 2nd down because it opens up the running game. The defensives (LB's and Saf) have to start respecting the pass (even pass attempts) and they start playing on the heels some instead of running down-hill toward our RB's every play.

We have the type of RB's that if they get that extra mili-second they can get freaking 15 yards.