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garlandowl08
10-01-2006, 09:12 PM
At the Head Coach position if you were Bill Byrne.

If you had the resources A&M does, what coach would you go after?

Yes, I'm saying get rid of Fran.

slorch
10-01-2006, 09:24 PM
i would remove all references to TU and the orange and white, and acknowledge the other opponents in the schedule... just a thought.

Keep Fran- He's the Man!

garlandowl08
10-01-2006, 09:25 PM
i would remove all references to TU and the orange and white, and acknowledge the other opponents in the schedule... just a thought.

Keep Fran- He's the Man!

Thanks for your valuble input :rolleyes:

Staff will you delete this stupid post.
He contributed nothing to the point of this thread.

Thanks

Packattack94
10-01-2006, 09:27 PM
Thanks for your valuble input :rolleyes:

Staff will you delete this stupid post.
He contributed nothing to the point of this thread.

Thanks

I second the motion!!

GoOwls
10-01-2006, 09:28 PM
I say keep Fran.........but I'm a Horns fan........:D :D

If I weren't, though, I'd say the Baylor coach, he's doing a lot with not much. Though I wonder if he would leave to take that job? Being the coach at aggy isn't a very nice looking job anymore. Too many outside interferences.

JMHO

dragonfootballfan
10-01-2006, 11:23 PM
I don't care who you get as long as he has a sweet face tat in keeping with Aggy tradition and all

HUM398
10-01-2006, 11:35 PM
I dont care... As long as they Give Jerrod Johnson a chance to prove he is THE QB for the aggies.

Lp78
10-01-2006, 11:55 PM
Butch Davis for HC!

lonny23
10-02-2006, 03:02 AM
At the Head Coach position if you were Bill Byrne.

If you had the resources A&M does, what coach would you go after?

Yes, I'm saying get rid of Fran.
Keep Fran. I like seeing him lose!:D

lonny23
10-02-2006, 03:04 AM
Thanks for your valuble input :rolleyes:

Staff will you delete this stupid post.
He contributed nothing to the point of this thread.

Thanks
Slorch told you the truth. I'll break it down for you. You're so focused on UT that you don't even realize Tech has passed you and Baylor has almost caught you.

Firebird
10-02-2006, 01:50 PM
If Dollar Bill is smart, he will go visit a man in Autin whose name begins with a "C" and ends with a "hizik". All the Aggies up here are furious at the demise of the wrecking crew. Mr. Chizik is the one to bring it back.

garlandowl08
10-02-2006, 01:54 PM
Slorch told you the truth. I'll break it down for you. You're so focused on UT that you don't even realize Tech has passed you and Baylor has almost caught you.

But that has nothing to do with what this thread is about. Pretend for one tiny second that you can get over your homerism and suggest something helpful for the Aggies...that's what I'm trying to get at.

Firebird
10-02-2006, 01:58 PM
i would remove all references to TU and the orange and white, and acknowledge the other opponents in the schedule... just a thought.

Keep Fran- He's the Man!

I see this as mostly a student/alumni thing. I don't think that Fran and the Aggie football team is losing because he overlooks every game but the UT one. I think he's losing because he is a bad coach. The have always put a lot of emphasis on the 'Horns, and have played WAY better than they are right now.

BigRing5311
10-02-2006, 03:03 PM
At the Head Coach position if you were Bill Byrne.

If you had the resources A&M does, what coach would you go after?

Yes, I'm saying get rid of Fran.

OK, here's the rules I've applied to myself in answering this question:
#1 I am a Texas Tech fan and have enjoyed Coach Mackovic, I mean Franchione's tenure at A&M beyond description but I will not let my loyalty to TTU influence my answer.
#2 I am going to be objectionable to the point of hanging myself out for a major interchair-quarterback roasting
#3 I will not retaliate nor be offended by the roasting I will receive from the aforementioned.
#4 I will think outside of the box (so should Fran he had 7 in it on that last play)

Texas A&M should go after Todd Dodge as hard and fast as they can. Here's why?
1) the only tradition A&M (football) has is on the highlight video's on the 2nd largest video screen in Texas that show's the greats of the past. I remember the "Wrecking Crew" defenses and the "I" backs that were second to only USC if that. Todays generation only knows about the Texas A&M that all of the alumns talk about that used to exist. To them it's ancient history. The day of A&M recruiting off of its past is and has come to an end, kid's aren't buying it. Todd Dodge would be the best recruiter in the state (Big XII) when and if he makes the leap. You say "better than Brown"? I think so b/c he'll be the new guy with the new fire and after he gets 10 minutes with a kid I'd hate to have the next 10 to try and convince him otherwise.
2) Dodge encompasses all of the values that A&M embraces but may have lost a few in the last 4 - 6 years; loyalty, family, character, hard work, conservative beliefs, honesty, winning.
3) Dodge knows how to get kids to believe in themselves and each other. He teaches them their worth and value as people not just football players. He is a master at individual player psychology and team management. He understands the game at a level that would astound most.
4) Dodge is a master at preparation. He won't get beat b/c his team is not prepared or because his team did not play hard enough.
5) Dodge knows how to get every last thing out of a player with the player enjoying every moment of it.

I know if A&M hired Dodge they would be the "Aggie Joke" of the nation. Aggie hires a High School coach, how dumb are they? In 3 years I'd bet those laughs would be just as funny as the faces I saw on 80,000+ Aggie fans last Saturday. What other big name is out there that A&M wants to throw a few more million at? I don't want Dodge to go anywhere but I can't help from believing that you can only fly under the radar for so long. And if he does make the step I'd give anything if it were to Tech, but I just don't see him and Leach on the same sideline.

Fire away...

slorch
10-02-2006, 03:04 PM
Thanks for your valuble input :rolleyes:

Staff will you delete this stupid post.
He contributed nothing to the point of this thread.

Thanks
the point of my post is there is ssoooooooooo much to change, where do you start?

If you want to get personal about my post, I'm game, or you can find somebody else or go hang out on Texags so everyone will agree with you.

If you don't think singing about UT when you're playing somebody else is just a wee bit unusual( and probably misguided,) then you need to ask some more opinions. the mindset is the problem. i did answer your question if your one brain cell that works(?) could figure it out.

You started it...

garlandowl08
10-02-2006, 03:28 PM
the point of my post is there is ssoooooooooo much to change, where do you start?

If you want to get personal about my post, I'm game, or you can find somebody else or go hang out on Texags so everyone will agree with you.

If you don't think singing about UT when you're playing somebody else is just a wee bit unusual( and probably misguided,) then you need to ask some more opinions. the mindset is the problem. i did answer your question if your one brain cell that works(?) could figure it out.

You started it...
I did not start it. I didn't ask for people's input on the traditions of TAMU or anything else. I just wanted to know what you guys thought would be a good choice for caoch. Clearly, this means I gnereally value the opinions fo the people who post on this board. Try taking a page out of BigRing5311's book and answer the question or dont bother posting.

slorch
10-02-2006, 03:54 PM
I did not start it. I didn't ask for people's input on the traditions of TAMU or anything else. I just wanted to know what you guys thought would be a good choice for caoch. Clearly, this means I gnereally value the opinions fo the people who post on this board. Try taking a page out of BigRing5311's book and answer the question or dont bother posting.
Knute Rockne, Bear Bryant, or even Tom Landry could do a better job today than Fran. it's a disgrace to see so much talent go to waste in College Station. I would love to see a resurgance with the big 3 in Texas kicking tail and setting the pace for everyone else, but i better mind my own stove before I tell you what's cooking in your pot. i want tech to beat you every year, that's why Fran's the man from my POV.
these guys on the aggy sites asking for Tuberville and Butch Davis are just too far gone. My initial point about the song is this: A&M is so laser focused on Texas, even with that gap widening, that they don't even look in the mirror any more. Why would either of those coaches leave what they're doing to join your little cult on the brazos? Auburn has money too, and talent. Tuberville ain't leaving that so he can come pull you up from where you've fallen. Todd Dodge- are you kidding me? everyone knows if he comes to aggy, he'll go to Texas as soon as he had the chance, and who could blame him? remember the David McWilliams thing at Tech before Spike showed up?
How can AggyNation be built on loyalty, and expect someone else( Dodge) not to be?
Find you a liitle OC or DC somewhere and gamble your way out of the hole.
Do you think i was glad when Rich Rodriguez turned Tech down for West Freaking Virginia? Then we got Blackbeard, and the fun times keep a rolling... in the back of my football mind, I would love to get to play Rodriguez somewhere down the road. hell, why not this year('07 bowls)?

Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but the biggest thing the aggys need is to wake up and take a look at themselves and ask why they can't win with all those great facilities, fans, and players. the resources are there, the leadership isn't. That's sad( except to your rivals.)

BigRing5311
10-02-2006, 04:26 PM
Sorry if I stepped on your toes, but the biggest thing the aggys need is to wake up and take a look at themselves and ask why they can't win with all those great facilities, fans, and players. the resources are there, the leadership isn't. That's sad( except to your rivals.)

It had been 12 years since I visited Kyle Field. slorch hit the head on the nail about facilities, fans, resources $$$ and talent...A&M is loaded with all of them. I don't agree about the loyalty comment concerning Dodge though. If A&M offered and Dodge took, he would not jump ship to UT at the first boarding call. That just isn't Dodge. And please slorch I love ya man but don't ever compare Dodge to David "Hookem and Leavem" McWilliams. That is so far out of Dodge's character make up that it doesn't even register.

slorch
10-02-2006, 04:34 PM
It had been 12 years since I visited Kyle Field. slorch hit the head on the nail about facilities, fans, resources $$$ and talent...A&M is loaded with all of them. I don't agree about the loyalty comment concerning Dodge though. If A&M offered and Dodge took, he would not jump ship to UT at the first boarding call. That just isn't Dodge. And please slorch I love ya man but don't ever compare Dodge to David "Hookem and Leavem" McWilliams. That is so far out of Dodge's character make up that it doesn't even register.
man i remember Dodge playing when I was a kid( when I liked the steers.) i wasn't knocking him, just simply alluding to the fact he is a Longhorn already, and would probably find it very compelling to "come home again."
i didn't mean anything bad by it, just addressing his first loyalty.

Firebird
10-02-2006, 04:41 PM
Slorch, I agree with you on most points. A&M needs to think outside the box a bit and look at OC/DC's instead of big name coaches. Tuberville is NOT leaving Auburn, an SEC team he built into a NC contender for A&M. Davis is a little bit more likely, but still a long shot. I disagree with Ring, even though he is more on the right track. A few thoughts:

1. Chizik, seriously-- he might be the best DC in the country. Who better to restore pride to the Wrecking Crew.

2. Norm Chow-- How did this man not get a HC gig? Right now he is stuck coaching Tennessee. For the kind of $$ A&M throws around, they could lure him into back to the college fold.

3. Nick Saban-- it wouldn't hurt to sniff around him a bit. He wouldn't be the first coach to decamp the NFL back to college. Admitted, this is a long shot, but I would at least put out some feelers. Miami is miserable right now and showing no signs of getting better.

4. Bobby Petrino-- though all indications are he is happy at Louisville, again, it can't hurt to put some feelers out. There is only so high you are going to take Louisville, and A&M has more potential. Again, a long, long, long shot, but as long as you are talking Tuberville and Davis, why not this guy too?

BigRing5311
10-02-2006, 04:42 PM
man i remember Dodge playing when I was a kid( when I liked the steers.) i wasn't knocking him, just simply alluding to the fact he is a Longhorn already, and would probably find it very compelling to "come home again."
i didn't mean anything bad by it, just addressing his first loyalty.

No Retaliation intended...btw I totally agree with you on UT and Coach Dodge. The smartest thing UT could do would be to make a spot for him immediately...but where, don't see Davis leaving anytime soon. I'm sure in a perfect world Dodge would be a Horn for the balance of his career if he had the shot. That's scary, think what he could do at UT behind Mac.

BigRing5311
10-02-2006, 04:51 PM
Play a little game here. Firebird brough up something interesting...Greg Davis. Let's say Davis went to A&M....
> Would one of the Co-DC's (Chizik or Akina go with him) or would he go after Venables?
> Who would Mac go after to replace his OC/QB Coach?....hmmm

Firebird
10-02-2006, 05:00 PM
Play a little game here. Firebird brough up something interesting...Greg Davis. Let's say Davis went to A&M....
> Would one of the Co-DC's (Chizik or Akina go with him) or would he go after Venables?
> Who would Mac go after to replace his OC/QB Coach?....hmmm

Actually, if I were A&M I wouldn't touch Davis with a 10 foot pole unless my Aggie genetic engineers had already cloned Vince Young.

dragonsdaddy
10-02-2006, 05:00 PM
Play a little game here. Firebird brough up something interesting...Greg Davis. Let's say Davis went to A&M....
> Would one of the Co-DC's (Chizik or Akina go with him) or would he go after Venables?
> Who would Mac go after to replace his OC/QB Coach?....hmmm
as a known davisophobe, i wonder whether davis is likely to recruit another vy. if not, he would need to bring along a new oc too. dodge'd fit that bill pretty well, and even though it'd be a stepping stone, it'd be acceptible to assume he'd take the right hc gig when it comes along.

lonny23
10-02-2006, 07:10 PM
But that has nothing to do with what this thread is about. Pretend for one tiny second that you can get over your homerism and suggest something helpful for the Aggies...that's what I'm trying to get at.
I don't want to help the Aggies and I'm not going to tell them what to do. I will sit back and discuss the merits of their actions after the fact, but I'm sure not going to sit here and tell you guys how to get better. At the same time, I'm not going to give you bad advice and pass it off as good advice. I don't want a better coach at A&M.

lonny23
10-02-2006, 07:14 PM
OK, here's the rules I've applied to myself in answering this question:
#1 I am a Texas Tech fan and have enjoyed Coach Mackovic, I mean Franchione's tenure at A&M beyond description but I will not let my loyalty to TTU influence my answer.
#2 I am going to be objectionable to the point of hanging myself out for a major interchair-quarterback roasting
#3 I will not retaliate nor be offended by the roasting I will receive from the aforementioned.
#4 I will think outside of the box (so should Fran he had 7 in it on that last play)

Texas A&M should go after Todd Dodge as hard and fast as they can. Here's why?
1) the only tradition A&M (football) has is on the highlight video's on the 2nd largest video screen in Texas that show's the greats of the past. I remember the "Wrecking Crew" defenses and the "I" backs that were second to only USC if that. Todays generation only knows about the Texas A&M that all of the alumns talk about that used to exist. To them it's ancient history. The day of A&M recruiting off of its past is and has come to an end, kid's aren't buying it. Todd Dodge would be the best recruiter in the state (Big XII) when and if he makes the leap. You say "better than Brown"? I think so b/c he'll be the new guy with the new fire and after he gets 10 minutes with a kid I'd hate to have the next 10 to try and convince him otherwise.
2) Dodge encompasses all of the values that A&M embraces but may have lost a few in the last 4 - 6 years; loyalty, family, character, hard work, conservative beliefs, honesty, winning.
3) Dodge knows how to get kids to believe in themselves and each other. He teaches them their worth and value as people not just football players. He is a master at individual player psychology and team management. He understands the game at a level that would astound most.
4) Dodge is a master at preparation. He won't get beat b/c his team is not prepared or because his team did not play hard enough.
5) Dodge knows how to get every last thing out of a player with the player enjoying every moment of it.

I know if A&M hired Dodge they would be the "Aggie Joke" of the nation. Aggie hires a High School coach, how dumb are they? In 3 years I'd bet those laughs would be just as funny as the faces I saw on 80,000+ Aggie fans last Saturday. What other big name is out there that A&M wants to throw a few more million at? I don't want Dodge to go anywhere but I can't help from believing that you can only fly under the radar for so long. And if he does make the step I'd give anything if it were to Tech, but I just don't see him and Leach on the same sideline.

Fire away...Don't give them any ideas. The last thing I would've done would be to answer his question. I don't want A&M to get better. I'd rather they hire the original John Mackovic.

garlandowl08
10-02-2006, 10:12 PM
Don't give them any ideas. The last thing I would've done would be to answer his question. I don't want A&M to get better. I'd rather they hire the original John Mackovic.

Are you just doing this because i was rude to you (sorry, btw) or because you really think Bill Byrne will be reading this thread :p . I think your ideas are pretty safe.

slorch
10-03-2006, 06:54 AM
Are you just doing this because i was rude to you (sorry, btw) or because you really think Bill Byrne will be reading this thread :p . I think your ideas are pretty safe.
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