Will 10/6 be a test for SLC?

[ScottS]

Colleyville put up 60+ points last night on Richland. Now, it was Richland, who in the past is one of the lower teams in the district. Think this will be a test for SLC? Does SLC lose this game?

[KT2000]

It could be interesting, but I don't think Heritage has the necessary talent on defense to keep Carroll contained enough to win. It takes all-around team effort/talent to be in there with a shot to beat the Dragons in the 4th quarter. There just aren't many teams in the state that can meet all of those requirements in a match-up with Carroll as evidenced by their record the last five seasons.

[StarmanDX]

(from the other topic)

No. Just no.

Heritage is not a physical enough team. They can not stop the run. SLC can run the ball as they proved against CH last year. The opponents(apart from Cedar Hill) that Hertiage has played so far are really not as good as people expected them to be. The Heritage recievers don't want to be physical. Neither does their defense. Throw a tight end in the mix or a fullback and CH won't be able to stop it. The CH defense is focused on stopping the 15 yard play rather than the 3 yard play. My nephews play/have played for CH, I've seen them play plenty of times. They aren't tough enough. If a team wants to be physical with them they will fall, and CH only wants to play their style of football. They can't play a style other than their own. The definition of a system team.

SLC wins by 40 minimum. I say 21-7 after the 1st quarter, 38-14 at half, and the final will be 66-24. Based on all the cockyness and smack talking exhibited by the CH players every year leading up to this game, don't be surprised if the score gets run up a bit.

[zippy]

The first team to give SLC trouble will be a team that can:

1. Keep them under 30 points.
2. Has decent/good secondary.
3. Knows how to control the clock to keep SLC off the field.
4. Has a good coach that can adjust to SLC.
5. Play them without being intimidated by a streak.


There are about 5 teams that are capable of this, and they are not in 5-5A. So if SL is going to lose a game, I am sure it will happen in Dec, and only in Dec.

[KatyTigerDad0407]

The first team to give SLC trouble will be a team that can:

1. Keep them under 30 points.
2. Has decent/good secondary.
3. Knows how to control the clock to keep SLC off the field.
4. Has a good coach that can adjust to SLC.
5. Play them without being intimidated by a streak.


There are about 5 teams that are capable of this, and they are not in 5-5A. So if SL is going to lose a game, I am sure it will happen in Dec, and only in Dec.Good post Zippy

[dragonsdaddy]

The first team to give SLC trouble will be a team that can:

1. Keep them under 30 points.
2. Has decent/good secondary.
3. Knows how to control the clock to keep SLC off the field.
4. Has a good coach that can adjust to SLC.
5. Play them without being intimidated by a streak.


There are about 5 teams that are capable of this, and they are not in 5-5A. So if SL is going to lose a game, I am sure it will happen in Dec, and only in Dec.
zippy, i agree with your assessment, but not your timeframe. i watched a team play last night that could beat slc in november. unfortunately, the et-slc game would be in round 2, not the reg finals. et meets all your criteria.

[zippy]

Good post Zippy


Thanks, feel free to add to that list. Those are the major things I could think of.

[zippy]

zippy, i agree with your assessment, but not your timeframe. i watched a team play last night that could beat slc in november. unfortunately, the et-slc game would be in round 2, not the reg finals. et meets all your criteria.

Possible I guess.

[dragonsdaddy]

Possible I guess.
after watching et, i'm concerned that it might be more than possible.

[rich_pack]

Who is Richland? SlC 60
CH 14

[zippy]

after watching et, i'm concerned that it might be more than possible.

One disadvantage for them is that they have never played SL. Teams like Katy, SV, Lufkin have, and they have played them very well. Other than that, I guess it could happen. I do not know much about ET other than that they are a very solid team. The more you play against SL, the better you get. As a coach and as a player. It could be interesting.

[toonman]

I think this will be the most difficult game SLC has before the 2nd round of the play-offs. But while Colleyville has an offense capable of scoring points to win games, I think the Colleyville defense will not be able to contain the Dragons, while the Dragon defense will be more than capable of holding the Colleyville offense. Good question by “ScottS”

[Grapeguy]

It should be an excellent test for the secondary. Russell is putting up Ponder-like numbers and has some very good receivers.

CHHS played the old district doormat and SLC the new doormat in the first week so its hard to take too much from these games. However, based on their other games, I do think the Panthers have enough firepower to stay with SLC if the Dragons' offense stalls due to untimely penalties (they did have 3 TDs called back last night) or turnovers.

[ScottS]

Don't forget, CH played Cedar Hill to within a touchdown, 35-28.

[DrEdward]

It should be an excellent test for the secondary. Russell is putting up Ponder-like numbers and has some very good receivers.

CHHS played the old district doormat and SLC the new doormat in the first week so its hard to take too much from these games. However, based on their other games, I do think the Panthers have enough firepower to stay with SLC if the Dragons' offense stalls due to untimely penalties (they did have 3 TDs called back last night) or turnovers.

Oops, never mind; I get it.

[Plano Wildcat Fan]

Colleyville put up 60+ points last night on Richland. Now, it was Richland, who in the past is one of the lower teams in the district. Think this will be a test for SLC? Does SLC lose this game?

Stop putting up ridiculous hypo's about if you think SLC will lose or be challenged. You guys have enough posts already about all things SLC. I saw won about Keller's students making fun of SLC Moms "fake Boobs"

Here is all you have to know about SLC until mid December. Carroll will not be challenge in District or during the first 4 rounds of the playoffs They will meet Lufkin in the Semi's around December 15th. Then you can start a thread then about the game. Until then any post's SLC fans put on here is all about chest thumping.

[dragonsdaddy]

Stop putting up ridiculous hypo's about if you think SLC will lose or be challenged. You guys have enough posts already about all things SLC. I saw won about Keller's students making fun of SLC Moms "fake Boobs"

Here is all you have to know about SLC until mid December. Carroll will not be challenge in District or during the first 4 rounds of the playoffs They will meet Lufkin in the Semi's around December 15th. Then you can start a thread then about the game. Until then any post's SLC fans put on here is all about chest thumping.
so were there any allen kids advertising for the plano plastic surgeons? i'm embarrassed that you won't be bragging about it. relax. it was pretty funny coming from fans of a team with less than no chance of going home satisfied with the outcome.

[Mean DT]

Colleyville put up 60+ points last night on Richland. Now, it was Richland, who in the past is one of the lower teams in the district. Think this will be a test for SLC? Does SLC lose this game?
You know there wont be a test for SLC till the playoffs.:D

[G-Man]

after watching et, i'm concerned that it might be more than possible.

Great! Then lets all ask KT to rank ET 2nd and move Lufkin to 3 just to see the Lufkinites' reaction.:D :D

[hollywood]

The first team to give SLC trouble will be a team that can:

1. Keep them under 30 points.
2. Has decent/good secondary.
3. Knows how to control the clock to keep SLC off the field.
4. Has a good coach that can adjust to SLC.
5. Play them without being intimidated by a streak.


There are about 5 teams that are capable of this, and they are not in 5-5A. So if SL is going to lose a game, I am sure it will happen in Dec, and only in Dec.Absolutely. Well said. Dead on correct.

[drgnbkr]

Stop putting up ridiculous hypo's about if you think SLC will lose or be challenged. You guys have enough posts already about all things SLC. I saw won about Keller's students making fun of SLC Moms "fake Boobs"

Here is all you have to know about SLC until mid December. Carroll will not be challenge in District or during the first 4 rounds of the playoffs They will meet Lufkin in the Semi's around December 15th. Then you can start a thread then about the game. Until then any post's SLC fans put on here is all about chest thumping.

You might start worrying about winning a game pwf..it's not looking very promising for you guys to even make the playoffs...

[da hawaiian]

Where's this game being played?

[SLC13]

Where's this game being played?
At Dragon Stadium :)

[da hawaiian]

What's your best tip for getting good seats on the visitors side for a game like this? Ticket costs visitors 50 yd line? Parking both paid and free?

[dragonsdaddy]

What's your best tip for getting good seats on the visitors side for a game like this? Ticket costs visitors 50 yd line? Parking both paid and free?
the visitor side is all gen admission. tickets are 6-7$ at the gate. they start selling and letting people in at either 1730 or 1800. getting here by then will almost guarantee a good seat. parking is $3.

[drgnbkr]

Hawaiiian...Come over to the Green side pre-game and walk around..guarantee you'll leave full & have fun!

[drgnbkr]

Dave Campbell has Colleyville Heritage checking at # 8 in his poll this week...seems high but we'll all see Friday night.

[Sakatha]

Stop putting up ridiculous hypo's about if you think SLC will lose or be challenged. You guys have enough posts already about all things SLC. I saw won about Keller's students making fun of SLC Moms "fake Boobs"

Here is all you have to know about SLC until mid December. Carroll will not be challenge in District or during the first 4 rounds of the playoffs They will meet Lufkin in the Semi's around December 15th. Then you can start a thread then about the game. Until then any post's SLC fans put on here is all about chest thumping.

You really are a bitter jackass. Oh, and this just in... It's called spell check.

It's not even worth touching on the other things wrong in this thread...

~DnM

[Dragon20]

Colleyville put up 60+ points last night on Richland. Now, it was Richland, who in the past is one of the lower teams in the district. Think this will be a test for SLC? Does SLC lose this game?

I totally agree with you I hope they don't over look this one 70 pts. & Colleyville won 7 on 7 this year, That scares me on both sides O & D.

[leanderdad]

Yes. Especially for the defense. If your secondary is weak, it will be exposed in this game. Defense will have to be on their toes for 48 minutes. Good luck to both teams. Has the possibility of being a very good game.

[da hawaiian]

Hawaiiian...Come over to the Green side pre-game and walk around..guarantee you'll leave full & have fun!

The concession stands good?

[NTxTiger]

You really are a bitter jackass. Oh, and this just in... It's called spell check.

It's not even worth touching on the other things wrong in this thread...

~DnM

Can't count on spell check. It would not have caught that.

[DrEdward]

The concession stands good?

Check out the Feedstore BBQ sandwichs.

[Maxthedog]

PWF:
Old Dragon that now lives in Plano.
Plano has more plastic surgeons than Southlake and more ,,,,,ah,,,,,results,,,er patients,,,,,er,,,Moms,,,,,ah,,,,. I have seen the Plano Dr's results,,,,or work......ah a job(s) well done,,,

[FeeltheHaka]

Southlake wins by at least 21 points.

[dragons08]

Southlake wins by at least 21 points.
im not ready to make my prediction yet, this game could really go either way, you could be right, or it could be a game won by a touchdown, not sure on the CH defense

[ScottS]

Ok, I'll throw my prediction out here....

SLC 32
CH 21

[WildcatFan]

The answer to the post question is NO!

Heritage is a good team but SLC will lock them down.

I have been made a believer and said after Evangel game quote "that no one will beat SLC in regular season".

I think the only chance of seeing a defeat is by either Lufkin and or Trinity if they meet in the PO's or Championship game.

I have wathched this Dragon team for the past three years and they show nothing but poise and play every second of the game.

So for you SLC fans sit back in the stands and knit your sweaters while your boys finish out the regular season.

I say SLC over Heritage 35-17

[dragonbuck]

The answer to the post question is NO!

Heritage is a good team but SLC will lock them down.

I have been made a believer and said after Evangel game quote "that no one will beat SLC in regular season".

I think the only chance of seeing a defeat is by either Lufkin and or Trinity if they meet in the PO's or Championship game.

I have wathched this Dragon team for the past three years and they show nothing but poise and play every second of the game.

So for you SLC fans sit back in the stands and knit your sweaters while your boys finish out the regular season.
I say SLC over Heritage 35-17



Is this a "kindler/gentler" PWF???? complementing the Dragons??? What a change!
You are correct, however, PWF, this team goes 10-0 unless they fall asleep along the way. I wouldn't have been so bold a few weeks ago, but they have gotten so much better, so fast, that even I am amazed ( and I have seen about 130 Dragon games over the last 10 years). These guys are learnig and growing quickly.

I am thinking 45-17, though I have not seen CH play and SC has shown vulnerability to the deep/middle ball. Based on what CH gave up last week to Richalnd (294yds) in passing yards, I expect SC to put up huge numbers thru the air. SC will blitz and try to make the sack before the deep ball can be released. Should be fun. Good luck to the Wildcats.

[dragonfootballfan]

Is this a "kindler/gentler" PWF???? complementing the Dragons??? What a change!
You are correct, however, PWF, this team goes 10-0 unless they fall asleep along the way. I wouldn't have been so bold a few weeks ago, but they have gotten so much better, so fast, that even I am amazed ( and I have seen about 130 Dragon games over the last 10 years). These guys are learnig and growing quickly.

I am thinking 45-17, though I have not seen CH play and SC has shown vulnerability to the deep/middle ball. Based on what CH gave up last week to Richalnd (294yds) in passing yards, I expect SC to put up huge numbers thru the air. SC will blitz and try to make the sack before the deep ball can be released. Should be fun. Good luck to the Wildcats.
this is a different plano poster. The one that you are referring to is Plano Wildcat Fan. This one is just WildcatFan. Confusing I now

[implacable44]

this is a different plano poster. The one that you are referring to is Plano Wildcat Fan. This one is just WildcatFan. Confusing I now

confusing like dragons ( fill in the blank) or SLC ( fill in the blank) ???

[leanderdad]

I will be an idiot and predict the upset in a score more like a 6-man football game.
CH 54 SLC 48

IMO I think this will be the 1 st game where a team can match the Dragons score for score. I will be curious to see how the Dragons do with the pressure of having to score. Yes the Dragon defense is the best in the state , or close to the best in the state against the run so far. Rockwall was a running team and got shut down by the Dragons defense. CH is a bigtime passing team. This will be the 1st time this season the Dragons will be under pressure. The Dragons record speaks for its self in Texas 5A football. But I just have a gut feeling about this game. SLC posters have been quiet this week which is unusual. This is going to be a very good game IMO. Good luck to both teams and have fun!

[DragonFan]

SLC has given up a total of 27 yards on the ground through 4 games. I do not think the Colleyville will even try to run. I really think this game will be determined by CH offensive line. If the line can keep the dragon rush off of the QB then they have a chance. I doubt that that will happen. I believe that SLC will be able to pass and run against CH but that CH QB will be running for his life and will through a couple of picks. SLC will win by 20.

[SLCDad]

The SLC/CHHS game on friday will be won on the line of scrimage. Those guys up front deserve more credit than most people usually give them. Forget about the QBs, RBs, WRs or DBs for a moment. The SLC defensive line and LBs will dominate. They are GREAT this year. That will be the game breaker in favor of SLC. SLC isn't Richland. By the fourth quarter SLC wins this game easily and the skill players will get the credit but we know the truth.

SLC 42-17

[BAMF cowboy]

post all the stats and strategy you want...it comes down to one thing:

rivalry game

[SLCDad]

I will be an idiot and predict the upset in a score more like a 6-man football game.Your evaluation of yourself will be proven on Friday. :D :D (just joking, I don't mean it that way)

No way SLC gives up 54 points. Not this defense. Won't happen. The first team SLC defense has given up 6 points total in four games.

[drgnbkr]

I will be an idiot and predict the upset in a score more like a 6-man football game.
CH 54 SLC 48

IMO I think this will be the 1 st game where a team can match the Dragons score for score. I will be curious to see how the Dragons do with the pressure of having to score. Yes the Dragon defense is the best in the state , or close to the best in the state against the run so far. Rockwall was a running team and got shut down by the Dragons defense. CH is a bigtime passing team. This will be the 1st time this season the Dragons will be under pressure. The Dragons record speaks for its self in Texas 5A football. But I just have a gut feeling about this game. SLC posters have been quiet this week which is unusual. This is going to be a very good game IMO. Good luck to both teams and have fun!

Each team has come in trying to pass against Carroll..all ran some variation of a throwing attack...could'nt go anywhere through the air so they tried the run and went backwards....Colleyville has put up good numbers, but has'nt seen a defense like Carroll's....Colleyville has a nice passing game, but not as good as Carrolls, their defense is'nt close to the quality of the Dragons...Carroll wins.

[Sakatha]

SLC's biggest advantage on D comes from facing the best offense in the state every week in practice... Pretty simple...

~DnM

[texasboy]

tests for slc there seems to be a few for slc. lufkin which seems to be the most likely, et will be next, i would say north shore but they were beat last year in playoffs by judson so i think judson can give them a run for their money. Judson is a good team they may start off bad but seem to make the playoff runs alot

[dragonfootballfan]

Most of the stats for the rushing defense of Southlake are buoyed by an incredible pass rush that has recorded an obscenely high number of sacks. They also have hit the opposing quarterbacks so hard that they become rattled back there.

[ScottS]

tests for slc there seems to be a few for slc. lufkin which seems to be the most likely, et will be next, i would say north shore but they were beat last year in playoffs by judson so i think judson can give them a run for their money. Judson is a good team they may start off bad but seem to make the playoff runs alot

Then there's that whole D1/D2 deal that would most likely prevent SLC from getting a shot at either Judson or North Shore.

[FeeltheHaka]

The only way to beat Southlake is to give them a good physical pounding. Colleyville Heritage does not have what it takes to do this. With Southlake's great scouting, I am willing to bet that Southlake's defensive backfield will know right where to be when Russel throws the ball.

[Floyd the Barber]

Slc 49
Ch 21

[drgnbkr]

Slc 49
Ch 21

Call me crazy, but I don't see them getting 21 points. They had a better QB last year (Chris Ponder - U of Florida recruit), some of the same receivers and went nowhere.

[DrEdward]

Call me crazy, but I don't see them getting 21 points. They had a better QB last year (Chris Ponder - U of Florida recruit), some of the same receivers and went nowhere.

I think he was Florida State rather than Florida.

[DodgeBallFan]

Hey, I think a good game would be a great thing for the Dragons. This is still a fairly young team who only gets about 3 quarters worth of work per game. I would love to see 48 minutes of intense football out of this bunch.

Heritage would have a much better chance of winning this game were it not a "big" game for this week. When Coach Dodge and his team believe it is a big game, it is usually over pretty quick.

CHS 35 (21 Tivo time points)
CSHS 56

[drgnbkr]

I think he was Florida State rather than Florida.

Sorry... At any rate he had better credentials than this years QB, Russell.

[farmerfan]

SLC's biggest advantage on D comes from facing the best offense in the state every week in practice... Pretty simple...

~DnM


Sakatha, how do you know that the Southlake offense is the best in the state? I mean have you seen every offense in the state this year? A couple of weeks ago you got onto TwoPlaya for making a assesment of the Lufkin offense going against the Shore defense and now you come out and do exactly what you accused him of doing. :eek:

[farmerfan]

Sorry... At any rate he had better credentials than this years QB, Russell.


Sometimes it doesnt matter about the overall stock when it comes to D1 type QB's. I have seen some excellent HS QB's that had nothing close to D1 talent but knew how to lead the team and drive them to the endzone. It seems like Russell does that better than Ponder did.

[DrEdward]

Sakatha, how do you know that the Southlake offense is the best in the state? I mean have you seen every offense in the state this year? A couple of weeks ago you got onto TwoPlaya for making a assesment of the Lufkin offense going against the Shore defense and now you come out and do exactly what you accused him of doing. :eek:

ff, he may or may not have meant it literally, but surely you are not arguing that one has to literally view every team in the state in order to arrive at an assessment of any one team's offense. By any standard of measure, the Carroll offense is a pretty good one.

[drgnbkr]

Sometimes it doesnt matter about the overall stock when it comes to D1 type QB's. I have seen some excellent HS QB's that had nothing close to D1 talent but knew how to lead the team and drive them to the endzone. It seems like Russell does that better than Ponder did.

Good point..we'll have to wait 2 more days to see how good he is against a good Dragon Defense.

[hebronhawk52]

The first team to give SLC trouble will be a team that can:

1. Keep them under 30 points.
2. Has decent/good secondary.
3. Knows how to control the clock to keep SLC off the field.
4. Has a good coach that can adjust to SLC.
5. Play them without being intimidated by a streak.


There are about 5 teams that are capable of this, and they are not in 5-5A. So if SL is going to lose a game, I am sure it will happen in Dec, and only in Dec.
who do you think these 5 teams are??

[SLCDad]

The only way to beat Southlake is to give them a good physical pounding. Colleyville Heritage does not have what it takes to do this. With Southlake's great scouting, I am willing to bet that Southlake's defensive backfield will know right where to be when Russel throws the ball.Have you seen SLC's defensive line and LBs? Have you seen their offensive line? They are ones doing the pounding this year. Big time.

[drgnbkr]

Have you seen SLC's defensive line and LBs? Have you seen their offensive line? They are ones doing the pounding this year. Big time.

It appears that ET knows a little about pounding ........:D

[farmerfan]

ff, he may or may not have meant it literally, but surely you are not arguing that one has to literally view every team in the state in order to arrive at an assessment of any one team's offense. By any standard of measure, the Carroll offense is a pretty good one.

Dr E
My comment was more towards a debate that sakatha started a few weeks ago with TooPlaya when TooPlaya gave his assesment of how the North Shore defense would stack up against the Lufkin offense. Sakatha told him that he couldnt say that cause he didnt know how it would match up without a game between the two teams. That is why I posted what I did when he said that about the dragon offense. You know its just one of those where he made a huge deal about another posters comment on something and then a few weeks later I interpret it as him doing the same thing.

Personally I would never question how great the Carroll offense is.

[drgnbkr]

I'm just excited for Friday to get here..it should be interesting to see what the "high flying" CHHS offense can do.....and I'm not being sarcastic...

[texasboy]

five that could do those things...umm i cant really name any.. if i had to chose some it would be lufkin or euless trinity

[Grapeguy]

Call me crazy, but I don't see them getting 21 points. They had a better QB last year (Chris Ponder - U of Florida recruit), some of the same receivers and went nowhere.

drgnbkr - I like our "D" and think they will hold CHHS to less than 21 if there is pressure on Russell. However, to say CHHS went "nowhere" offensively last year just isn't so. They scored 28 points. While the Dragons had a comfortable lead most of the game, I don't recall that the CHHS scores were in garbage time against 2nd or 3rd stringers. As to the other point regarding Russell vs. Ponder you are probably right. However, Russell is putting up the passing numbers comparable to or better than Ponder at this point of the season. The unknown to me is whether he is capable of getting the rushing yards that Ponder could. I believe Ponder had well over 100 against the Dragons. It may have been as much as 170. That night, Ponder was a close to a one man show as I've seen from our 5A competition.

[ScottS]

drgnbkr - I like our "D" and think they will hold CHHS to less than 21 if there is pressure on Russell. However, to say CHHS went "nowhere" offensively last year just isn't so. They scored 28 points. While the Dragons had a comfortable lead most of the game, I don't recall that the CHHS scores were in garbage time against 2nd or 3rd stringers. As to the other point regarding Russell vs. Ponder you are probably right. However, Russell is putting up the passing numbers comparable to or better than Ponder at this point of the season. The unknown to me is whether he is capable of getting the rushing yards that Ponder could. I believe Ponder had well over 100 against the Dragons. It may have been as much as 170. That night, Ponder was a close to a one man show as I've seen from our 5A competition.

Does anyone have a box score for last year's game? I seem to remember it got out of hand pretty early. Like 7-7 to begin and then maybe 40-7 or 40-14, before CH go the rest of their points.

[SLC13]

drgnbkr - I like our "D" and think they will hold CHHS to less than 21 if there is pressure on Russell. However, to say CHHS went "nowhere" offensively last year just isn't so. They scored 28 points. While the Dragons had a comfortable lead most of the game, I don't recall that the CHHS scores were in garbage time against 2nd or 3rd stringers. As to the other point regarding Russell vs. Ponder you are probably right. However, Russell is putting up the passing numbers comparable to or better than Ponder at this point of the season. The unknown to me is whether he is capable of getting the rushing yards that Ponder could. I believe Ponder had well over 100 against the Dragons. It may have been as much as 170. That night, Ponder was a close to a one man show as I've seen from our 5A competition.
GG, I totally agree with you on the one man show assessment!!

If DMN stats are to be believed, Ponder threw for 319 yards and three touchdowns and rushed for 85 yards and score. Game writeup said he accounted for 96 percent of Colleyville Heritage's 420 offensive yards.
__________________________________________________ ___
SL Carroll 14 14 14 17 -- 59
Coll. Heritage 7 0 7 14 -- 28
__________________________________________________ ___
Statistic SLC HER
First downs 23 24
Rushing yards 34-365 34-101
Passing yards 285 319
Comp-att-int 10-19-0 29-48-0
Punts-avg 2-31.5 5-32.2
Penalties-yards 10-99 7-70
Fumbles-lost 3-0 1-0
INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing – SLC: Greg McElroy 16-168, Tre' Newton 9-155, Riley Dodge 5-34, Matt Moorefield 4-8. HER: Christian Ponder 25-85, Deanthony Montgomery 6-14, Kyle Furin 3-2.
Passing – SLC: Greg McElroy 9-18-0-226, Riley Dodge 1-1-0-59. HER: Christian Ponder 29-45-0-319.
Receiving – SLC: McKay Jacobson 2-100, Tre' Newton 3-70, Evan Fentriss 1-59, Corbin Smiter 1-32, James Allen 2-15, Clint Renfro 1-9. HER: Evan Walker 8-116, Breece Johnson 8-81, Donald Markley 5-59, Kevin Greene 6-57, Deanthony Montgomery 1-4, Matt Howe 1-2.

[Grapeguy]

Does anyone have a box score for last year's game? I seem to remember it got out of hand pretty early. Like 7-7 to begin and then maybe 40-7 or 40-14, before CH go the rest of their points.

I think you're right that it was tied early and then the lead got pretty big. I just don't recall Ponder pounding it against the back-ups. If I'm right, does these mean there's more evidence that our classless coach ran up the score on another overmatched opponent?:D

[Grapeguy]

GG, I totally agree with you on the one man show assessment!!

If DMN stats are to be believed, Ponder threw for 319 yards and three touchdowns and rushed for 85 yards and score. Game writeup said he accounted for 96 percent of Colleyville Heritage's 420 offensive yards.
__________________________________________________ ___
SL Carroll 14 14 14 17 -- 59
Coll. Heritage 7 0 7 14 -- 28
__________________________________________________ ___
Statistic SLC HER
First downs 23 24
Rushing yards 34-365 34-101
Passing yards 285 319
Comp-att-int 10-19-0 29-48-0
Punts-avg 2-31.5 5-32.2
Penalties-yards 10-99 7-70
Fumbles-lost 3-0 1-0
INDIVIDUAL LEADERS
Rushing – SLC: Greg McElroy 16-168, Tre' Newton 9-155, Riley Dodge 5-34, Matt Moorefield 4-8. HER: Christian Ponder 25-85, Deanthony Montgomery 6-14, Kyle Furin 3-2.
Passing – SLC: Greg McElroy 9-18-0-226, Riley Dodge 1-1-0-59. HER: Christian Ponder 29-45-0-319.
Receiving – SLC: McKay Jacobson 2-100, Tre' Newton 3-70, Evan Fentriss 1-59, Corbin Smiter 1-32, James Allen 2-15, Clint Renfro 1-9. HER: Evan Walker 8-116, Breece Johnson 8-81, Donald Markley 5-59, Kevin Greene 6-57, Deanthony Montgomery 1-4, Matt Howe 1-2.

Oops! Right position - wrong team. :confused: It was McElroy that had such a big night running the ball. Though I do think Ponder was still a very adequate runner for a QB.

[ScottS]

I think you're right that it was tied early and then the lead got pretty big. I just don't recall Ponder pounding it against the back-ups. If I'm right, does these mean there's more evidence that our classless coach ran up the score on another overmatched opponent?:D

My guess is when the score was that big that Dodge did sub out, but since it was a year ago, I can't remember. Anyone else remember?

[Sakatha]

Sakatha, how do you know that the Southlake offense is the best in the state? I mean have you seen every offense in the state this year? A couple of weeks ago you got onto TwoPlaya for making a assesment of the Lufkin offense going against the Shore defense and now you come out and do exactly what you accused him of doing. :eek:

No, I didn't.. He was guessing at a score.. I am going on proven statistics that have already been rolled up.

I can dig up statistics if you please... Hell, I am bored, why not...

TEAM OFFENSE

Team Rush Pass Avg. Yds.
SL Carroll 964 1278 560.5

I don't have the energy to find the past 3 years... Let's just say, though, that the next closest team in 5A is 60 yards in the rear view mirror, and this year's average total is down considerably so far... You are more than welcome to find the averages of any other team in the state... Go for it..

Proven STATS are different than someone trying to pull a score out of their ***... Nice attempt at making me look stupid, though.

~DnM

p.s Oh, and the best part of our little undersized, steroid infested team is...

TEAM DEFENSE

Team Rush Pass Avg. Yds.
SL Carroll 27 586 153.2

[BAMF cowboy]

here's a stat for you:

25 - 1

-that is SLC's record in regular season games at Dragon Stadium

21 - 0 in 5A

no way anyone comes into Dragon Stadium and beats them...no way

[SLC13]

My guess is when the score was that big that Dodge did sub out, but since it was a year ago, I can't remember. Anyone else remember?
The score was 52-21 midway through 4th when pretty much the 1st teamers were subbed out. CH scored once more and Matt Moorefield got the last Dragon TD during mop up time......:)

[ScottS]

here's a stat for you:

25 - 1

-that is SLC's record in regular season games at Dragon Stadium

21 - 0 in 5A

no way anyone comes into Dragon Stadium and beats them...no way

Not even a team from East Texas or 26-5A?

[zippy]

who do you think these 5 teams are??

I would list them (most already know at least 3), but then all it would do is cause everyone to go off about why SLC would beat them, and it will just end in a locked thread. I might put in a new thread on the issue so not to lock up Scotts's thread here. I doubt it will last more than a few posts however. Better to let them prove it on the field then to waste time talking about it here. 4 can for sure do what I stated, very possible. The 5th I need another week to see how they do. There is also no possible way they can meet up with a couple of them, so that would really be pointless. However, either way, I will post my thoughts on them, and list them, in another thread.

[zippy]

Not even a team from East Texas or 26-5A?

Nope. Not even a chance. The bus would get so worried, it would break down just so it would not have to witness the beating.

[Sakatha]

I would list them (most already know at least 3), but then all it would do is cause everyone to go off about why SLC would beat them, and it will just end in a locked thread. I might put in a new thread on the issue so not to lock up Scotts's thread here. I doubt it will last more than a few posts however. Better to let them prove it on the field then to waste time talking about it here. 4 can for sure do what I stated, very possible. The 5th I need another week to see how they do. There is also no possible way they can meet up with a couple of them, so that would really be pointless. However, either way, I will post my thoughts on them, and list them, in another thread.

This just in... SLC is mortal and beatable..

Lufkin, GPNS, and ET can all beat SLC this year... Question is, will they...

~DnM

[zippy]

This just in... SLC is mortal and beatable..

Lufkin, GPNS, and ET can all beat SLC this year... Question is, will they...

~DnM

well, since you went ahead and gave your opinion, I will add Katy and SV. Reason behind Katy, well, they did it once already, and have played them a couple of times. Oh yea, they are not a bad team either! SV has also had a couple of times on the field with them. Does SV have the players this year to stand a chance?? Did we think they did at this point in the season of 2004? Yea, me and maybe two other people. I do think they lack in some areas compared to that year, but they are a lot better in others. If they make the well known improvments late in the year like always, they will have the team to do it. Coach Hill does not lose to the same team more than once very often. I dont think he has ever lost to the same team 3 times in a row. Hopefully they will have their starting running back this year if they do get another chance. Big part of SV's clock control.

The 3 you already listed were my other 3. We all know Lufkin stands a good chance. If NS plays their top game, there is no doubt about that. As for ET, I think they have the team to do it. However, I do not know much about the ET team. I know they do have/had some very big guys on the line, which might become a speed problem against a team like SL. (pressure on a quick QB, not a pocket passer). I am not going to get into a pissing contest about this, its just my feeling toward it. Like I said before, there is no way that they will even meet up with a couple of these teams, so it becomes pointless. I will be back at the end of Nov when things become a little more solid in the brackets to discuss more.

[Sakatha]

well, since you went ahead and gave your opinion, I will add Katy and SV. Reason behind Katy, well, they did it once already, and have played them a couple of times. Oh yea, they are not a bad team either! SV has also had a couple of times on the field with them. Does SV have the players this year to stand a chance?? Did we think they did at this point in the season of 2004? Yea, me and maybe two other people. I do think they lack in some areas compared to that year, but they are a lot better in others. If they make the well known improvments late in the year like always, they will have the team to do it. Coach Hill does not lose to the same team more than once very often. I dont think he has ever lost to the same team 3 times in a row. Hopefully they will have their starting running back this year if they do get another chance. Big part of SV's clock control.

The 3 you already listed were my other 3. We all know Lufkin stands a good chance. If NS plays their top game, there is no doubt about that. As for ET, I think they have the team to do it. However, I do not know much about the ET team. I know they do have/had some very big guys on the line, which might become a speed problem against a team like SL. (pressure on a quick QB, not a pocket passer). I am not going to get into a pissing contest about this, its just my feeling toward it. Like I said before, there is no way that they will even meet up with a couple of these teams, so it becomes pointless. I will be back at the end of Nov when things become a little more solid in the brackets to discuss more.

Why do you have such a huge chip on your shoulder, man... At least don't be that way w/me. I have *NEVER* said SLC can't be beaten. To be honest, this Friday night scares the crap out of me.

ANY week someone can lose. ANY week... Any dragon fan who says otherwise is in la la land, and in for a really REALLY bad time when we do finally lose...

Me? I am just enjoying the ride.

RE: the other 2 you listed, sure... and there are others in the state as well. I was just naming 3 really quick off the top of my head..

~DnM

[drgnbkr]

10/6 will be a challenge for the Dragons..some games are more of a challenge than others...this Friday night should be an interesting game. The playoffs are always a challenge..Carroll has been fortunate to run the toughest gauntlet (according to many non-Carroll posters) that a team can run in the playoffs. Will they do it this year? It's going to be a hell of a lot of fun finding out...We did'nt whine or complain in 03, and we won't this year if the Dragons lose!

[SLCDad]

Does anyone have a box score for last year's game? I seem to remember it got out of hand pretty early. Like 7-7 to begin and then maybe 40-7 or 40-14, before CH go the rest of their points.SLC built a 35-7 lead in the 3rd.

[Sakatha]

10/6 will be a challenge for the Dragons..some games are more of a challenge than others...this Friday night should be an interesting game. The playoffs are always a challenge..Carroll has been fortunate to run the toughest gauntlet (according to many non-Carroll posters) that a team can run in the playoffs. Will they do it this year? It's going to be a hell of a lot of fun finding out...We did'nt whine or complain in 03, and we won't this year if the Dragons lose!

I was upset until I got a nice margarita in me down on the riverwalk.. Then I started thinking about next year... :)

~DnM

[maxtor]

SLC doesnt just face Heritage this week. Every week SLC competes against unfriendly calls, funny bounces, penalties and other intangibles that are beyond thier control.

And sometimes teams just dont match up well(SLC and Grapevine in 05')(Ennis and Marlin in 03'?).

Sometimes a team gets a big penalty but has to decline it. Then the other team gets the same penalty later and it sustains a TD drive. Intangible.

Team A throws a wobbler bomb and it bounces off two defenders helmets and lands in the hands of the reciever laying in the endzone. Intangible.

Another way to beat SLC is to run the ball and gain 3.34 yards a pop and have 11 minute drives without penalties(katy).

[DragonBand06]

Who I think has the right stuff (as of right now) to beat SLC if we go D2:
Lufkin
Katy
A Rival Team

I believe the first two speak for themselves. As for the third, I think that in a rivalry game(as in CHHS or GHS) the team can get distracted by all the goings-on and lose focus, as we all saw last year...

I'm not saying we are not beatable at this point; I just don't think we WILL be beaten at this point.

[DrEdward]

Dr E
My comment was more towards a debate that sakatha started a few weeks ago with TooPlaya when TooPlaya gave his assesment of how the North Shore defense would stack up against the Lufkin offense. Sakatha told him that he couldnt say that cause he didnt know how it would match up without a game between the two teams. That is why I posted what I did when he said that about the dragon offense. You know its just one of those where he made a huge deal about another posters comment on something and then a few weeks later I interpret it as him doing the same thing.

Personally I would never question how great the Carroll offense is.

Sorry, I guess I did not pay a lot of attention to that exchange between the two of you.

[zippy]

Why do you have such a huge chip on your shoulder, man... At least don't be that way w/me. I have *NEVER* said SLC can't be beaten. To be honest, this Friday night scares the crap out of me.

ANY week someone can lose. ANY week... Any dragon fan who says otherwise is in la la land, and in for a really REALLY bad time when we do finally lose...

Me? I am just enjoying the ride.

RE: the other 2 you listed, sure... and there are others in the state as well. I was just naming 3 really quick off the top of my head..

~DnM


It was not even toward you, talking about anyone. Do not really want to debate it is all. Sorry you took it the wrong way..

[Sakatha]

Farmerfan should check the other thread regarding the Offensive massey ratings.. Looks like I am not the only person who believes that SLC has the #1 O in the state...

~DnM

[dragons08]

like BAMF cowboy said, just through out all the stats, rivarly game..

last year, we were supposed to KILL grapevine, we almost lost..

anything can happen, espically during rivarly, i KNOW it will be intense there, and there'll probally be some fights, if CH doesnt fill their side and some dragon fans have to sit over there things will be said, which leads to fights, so the athmosphere will be crazy. but when the spotlight is on, the dragons ALWAYS come to play, and i expect them to do so this week

[zippy]

like BAMF cowboy said, just through out all the stats, rivarly game..

last year, we were supposed to KILL grapevine, we almost lost..

anything can happen, espically during rivarly, i KNOW it will be intense there, and there'll probally be some fights, if CH doesnt fill their side and some dragon fans have to sit over there things will be said, which leads to fights, so the athmosphere will be crazy. but when the spotlight is on, the dragons ALWAYS come to play, and i expect them to do so this week

I really think this should not take place. I had to experience this at Judson the last time they played. This was after the Canyon emo kids (that were not even football fans, not even in the gates) wrote the KKK stuff on their bus. They were sitting all around us. Everytime we would stand up after a big play, they would tell us to please sit. It was crazy. My family started standing up yelling even if SV made an inch on a play. It got funny. They acted like we were the ones that wrote the stuff on the bus. It just was not good, and could have got very ugly if we did not ignore them.

[my3sons]

SLC handles Colleyville (again). Dragon defense too physical for 7 on 7 champs. Oh yeah, that is touch football after all. Put the pads on and things change.

[ScottS]

Ok, just 1 day left if you want to predict this game.

[TrinityTrojan80]

SLC doesnt just face Heritage this week. Every week SLC competes against unfriendly calls, funny bounces, penalties and other intangibles that are beyond thier control.

And sometimes teams just dont match up well(SLC and Grapevine in 05')(Ennis and Marlin in 03'?).

Sometimes a team gets a big penalty but has to decline it. Then the other team gets the same penalty later and it sustains a TD drive. Intangible.

Team A throws a wobbler bomb and it bounces off two defenders helmets and lands in the hands of the reciever laying in the endzone. Intangible.

Another way to beat SLC is to run the ball and gain 3.34 yards a pop and have 11 minute drives without penalties(katy).



Man you’re exactly right, many nights it does seem like Trinity is playing two teams, one in stripes. It's a part of being so good; everyone is looking to bring you down. It's not that our team commits more penalties (all teams do) it's that I believe the (human) refs. are going to make sure that it is not a pure cakewalk for us.

Trinity has it a little different than Southlake. The Dragons are a quick-score, high octane offense that can get ahead of you by 3 TD's in no-time. Trinity is a grind-it-out, long drive team that will take a whole quarter to score. The refs will see our boys running over the other team and I think it effects the refs that they need to "protect" the smaller team.

So when Trinity is up 14-0 it doesn't seem to impress anyone who is just looking at the stats and score unless you were at the game and witnessed the total domination.

This years Trinity team is a little different than last years team in that the defense is a step better (as is Southlake) and the offense is the side of the ball that isn't as dominate, though it is good enough and better than most team’s offenses. I think we have all the "starters" except 2 O-linemen back and last week the offense was more dominate and impressive.

Trinity's defense has some real bite to it this year. The size and speed is impressive. That's right, speed; the pass-rush is so good and quick to get to the qb. It's just not fair, our defense is "college size" with the exception of one or two players. Although I don't think we have any 4.4 speed on D, the whole of the D is very fast.

I respect all the teams we face and I am proud that Lineweaver doesn't "put his foot on the throat" of the other team when they are getting beat so bad. He will put in the 2nd string and "call off the dogs".

I find that Dodge is the same way most of the time.
Good luck to the Dragons, if we meet in the playoffs this year, it will be a battle that I will welcome. Then we can answer the question, "Which team would win Trinity or Southlake?"
We should have played last year, but it wasn't in the cards. Even though things seemed to work out for both teams, Trinity was "short-changed" in that all the supposedly good, ranked teams in Division I were beaten before Trinity had the chance.

Win or lose, I want to see the ET vs. SLC this year. Either we will see that Trinity is a step below SLC and just like all the other teams that keep saying, “this year were better so we can beat SLC".
Or, Trinity will win and prove that they are a legit elite team.

[drgnbkr]

Man you’re exactly right, many nights it does seem like Trinity is playing two teams, one in stripes. It's a part of being so good; everyone is looking to bring you down. It's not that our team commits more penalties (all teams do) it's that I believe the (human) refs. are going to make sure that it is not a pure cakewalk for us.

Trinity has it a little different than Southlake. The Dragons are a quick-score, high octane offense that can get ahead of you by 3 TD's in no-time. Trinity is a grind-it-out, long drive team that will take a whole quarter to score. The refs will see our boys running over the other team and I think it effects the refs that they need to "protect" the smaller team.

So when Trinity is up 14-0 it doesn't seem to impress anyone who is just looking at the stats and score unless you were at the game and witnessed the total domination.

This years Trinity team is a little different than last years team in that the defense is a step better (as is Southlake) and the offense is the side of the ball that isn't as dominate, though it is good enough and better than most team’s offenses. I think we have all the "starters" except 2 O-linemen back and last week the offense was more dominate and impressive.

Trinity's defense has some real bite to it this year. The size and speed is impressive. That's right, speed; the pass-rush is so good and quick to get to the qb. It's just not fair, our defense is "college size" with the exception of one or two players. Although I don't think we have any 4.4 speed on D, the whole of the D is very fast.

I respect all the teams we face and I am proud that Lineweaver doesn't "put his foot on the throat" of the other team when they are getting beat so bad. He will put in the 2nd string and "call off the dogs".

I find that Dodge is the same way most of the time.
Good luck to the Dragons, if we meet in the playoffs this year, it will be a battle that I will welcome. Then we can answer the question, "Which team would win Trinity or Southlake?"
We should have played last year, but it wasn't in the cards. Even though things seemed to work out for both teams, Trinity was "short-changed" in that all the supposedly good, ranked teams in Division I were beaten before Trinity had the chance.

Win or lose, I want to see the ET vs. SLC this year. Either we will see that Trinity is a step below SLC and just like all the other teams that keep saying, “this year were better so we can beat SLC".
Or, Trinity will win and prove that they are a legit elite team.


Like I've said..a Carroll vs Trinity game would be one of the most anticipated matchups in the DFW area....as they say in boxing.."styles make good fights" and the Dragons and Trojans would be a classic matchup of 2 different styles..

[rams55]

Last years game vs. Colleyville did seem as if it was a blowout and it was. However the game last year was a lot closer than it appeared. As a former panther on last year’s offensive line we did make it to the red zone 4times without scoring. Now let’s say last year if we did complete thoughs drives it would have been a very competive game and it probably would have ended differently.

Now im not going to say either way who is going to win but I will say this

Colleyville and Southlake are both to very good teams and both have great coaching staff but what it will come down to as it does every Friday night is who wants it the most. Because we did get disgraced this year be loosing to cedar hill I know that this year’s panthers are ready to prove that they should be respected by beating Southlake.

I know that both dodge and Cunningham have a great respect for each other and they will bring something new to the table to bring a victory.

I know it will be a good game and I honestly think the panther offense can score on the dragon defense with relative ease however the game is going to come down to the panther defense. Which my brother is a member of.


As far as comparing Casey Russell to Christian ponder, your comparing apples and oranges.

-Casey is very much a pocket passer who can pick apart a defense

-ponder was a very mobile qb who could move in the pocket and out of the pocket to make a pass and if needed run the ball (because we all know there was no other real running game last year)


Good luck to both teams and to bad I can’t make it this Friday

[drgnbkr]

Last years game vs. Colleyville did seem as if it was a blowout and it was. However the game last year was a lot closer than it appeared. As a former panther on last year’s offensive line we did make it to the red zone 4times without scoring. Now let’s say last year if we did complete thoughs drives it would have been a very competive game and it probably would have ended differently.

Now im not going to say either way who is going to win but I will say this

Colleyville and Southlake are both to very good teams and both have great coaching staff but what it will come down to as it does every Friday night is who wants it the most. Because we did get disgraced this year be loosing to cedar hill I know that this year’s panthers are ready to prove that they should be respected by beating Southlake.

I know that both dodge and Cunningham have a great respect for each other and they will bring something new to the table to bring a victory.

I know it will be a good game and I honestly think the panther offense can score on the dragon defense with relative ease however the game is going to come down to the panther defense. Which my brother is a member of.


As far as comparing Casey Russell to Christian ponder, your comparing apples and oranges.

-Casey is very much a pocket passer who can pick apart a defense

-ponder was a very mobile qb who could move in the pocket and out of the pocket to make a pass and if needed run the ball (because we all know there was no other real running game last year)


Good luck to both teams and to bad I can’t make it this Friday

Good luck to the Panthers! Everything is well stated except for the part about Colleyville "scoring on the Dragon Defense with relative ease"..there you are a bit misguided in my humble opinion...If you believe that, what do you think will happen when the Dragons have the ball?

[ScottS]

Good luck to the Panthers! Everything is well stated except for the part about Colleyville "scoring on the Dragon Defense with relative ease"..there you are a bit misguided in my humble opinion...If you believe that, what do you think will happen when the Dragons have the ball?

With SLC just giving up 150 or so yards per game, I had a little trouble with the scoring with relative ease part too. But, I guess we'll have to see what Russell has. It sounds like he is good.

[rams55]

i have no doubt that the dragons will score and probably alot


basically this game will be a pyramid race and whoever gets to the top first wins.

colleyville can score with relative ease on the dragon defense due to the fact that the OL is a veteran OL and SLC has had trouple in the past with the mid to deep ball which is what Casey throws alot of.

[leanderdad]

Last years game vs. Colleyville did seem as if it was a blowout and it was. However the game last year was a lot closer than it appeared. As a former panther on last year’s offensive line we did make it to the red zone 4times without scoring. Now let’s say last year if we did complete thoughs drives it would have been a very competive game and it probably would have ended differently.

Now im not going to say either way who is going to win but I will say this

Colleyville and Southlake are both to very good teams and both have great coaching staff but what it will come down to as it does every Friday night is who wants it the most. Because we did get disgraced this year be loosing to cedar hill I know that this year’s panthers are ready to prove that they should be respected by beating Southlake.

I know that both dodge and Cunningham have a great respect for each other and they will bring something new to the table to bring a victory.

I know it will be a good game and I honestly think the panther offense can score on the dragon defense with relative ease however the game is going to come down to the panther defense. Which my brother is a member of.


As far as comparing Casey Russell to Christian ponder, your comparing apples and oranges.

-Casey is very much a pocket passer who can pick apart a defense

-ponder was a very mobile qb who could move in the pocket and out of the pocket to make a pass and if needed run the ball (because we all know there was no other real running game last year)


Good luck to both teams and to bad I can’t make it this Friday
Thanks for analysis and thoughts and welcome to the board!

[StarmanDX]

Last years game vs. Colleyville did seem as if it was a blowout and it was. However the game last year was a lot closer than it appeared. As a former panther on last year’s offensive line we did make it to the red zone 4times without scoring. Now let’s say last year if we did complete thoughs drives it would have been a very competive game and it probably would have ended differently.

Now im not going to say either way who is going to win but I will say this

Colleyville and Southlake are both to very good teams and both have great coaching staff but what it will come down to as it does every Friday night is who wants it the most. Because we did get disgraced this year be loosing to cedar hill I know that this year’s panthers are ready to prove that they should be respected by beating Southlake.

I know that both dodge and Cunningham have a great respect for each other and they will bring something new to the table to bring a victory.

I know it will be a good game and I honestly think the panther offense can score on the dragon defense with relative ease however the game is going to come down to the panther defense. Which my brother is a member of.


As far as comparing Casey Russell to Christian ponder, your comparing apples and oranges.

-Casey is very much a pocket passer who can pick apart a defense

-ponder was a very mobile qb who could move in the pocket and out of the pocket to make a pass and if needed run the ball (because we all know there was no other real running game last year)


Good luck to both teams and to bad I can’t make it this Friday

Our first CH poster of the year! Last year before this game we had about 7 or 8, so we have been waiting. You played with my nephew last year, even though I don't know who you are. My nephew graduated last year and played football for Heritage.

But you mention that your team got to the red zone 4 times, well, that is where your team has to step it up and finish the drive. Just getting to the red zone doesn't get you any points, you still have 20 or less yards to get some points. How teams perform in the red zone makes or breaks a team. There were two games I went to last year that helps verify my claim. When we lost to Irving MacArthur 3-0, both teams were pathetic in the red zone. If either team would have converted at least once, it would have won them the game. Red Zone defense is huge. I also attended the ET/Hurst Bell game, and even though ET won 42-0 Hurst Bell still reached the red zone at least 5 times yet never got any points. You HAVE to be 100% in the red zone, no questions asked. Even though thats hard to do, try to get as close to 100% as possible. When defending in the red zone its essential to step it up as well. As you can see both IMac and ET in the games I mentioned stepped it up in the red zone on defense and it paid off.

My prediciton for this game still stands, I say 66-21 SLC, the game is over at halftime. Although I would attend this game without question, we have the SGP/GP game going on in Grand Prairie. However the game starts at 6:00pm, so if it gets out of hand early(which I am expecting) I am headed over to Southlake.

[ScottS]

ANY week someone can lose. ANY week... Any dragon fan who says otherwise is in la la land, and in for a really REALLY bad time when we do finally lose...


The Dragons never lose.

[drgnbkr]

i have no doubt that the dragons will score and probably alot


basically this game will be a pyramid race and whoever gets to the top first wins.

colleyville can score with relative ease on the dragon defense due to the fact that the OL is a veteran OL and SLC has had trouple in the past with the mid to deep ball which is what Casey throws alot of.

Which past? And I also welcome you to the board!

[Sakatha]

Which past? And I also welcome you to the board!

I bet you can remember a few nightmare deep balls from recent past...

Mouton... *2* that were 80-ish in the Plano game last year..

There are others, but if you go on a literal sense, he's right... We've let some *big* plays go in the past. Only once did it cost us in the big picture.

~DnM

[ScottS]

Lake Highlands hit one I think for 65 yards.

[drgnbkr]

Lake Highlands hit one I think for 65 yards.

If it was a pattern, it would be a problem...:D I don't think it has been a weakness in the recent past..that Mouton reception was really painful...

[ScottS]

If it was a pattern, it would be a problem...:D I don't think it has been a weakness in the recent past..that Mouton reception was really painful...

I don't think its a pattern, but if we are hit with a massive passing attack from CH, then who knows.

[drgnbkr]

I don't think its a pattern, but if we are hit with a massive passing attack from CH, then who knows.

One thing is for sure...the Dragons will be hit by a massive passing attack. The question is will it be successful? I think the D-line and LB''s will drive Russell crazy and our DB's will more than hold thier own..just my opinion..

[rams55]

if you cant figure out who i am all you got to do is look at the number following my name then look up last years roster

but you are right zone efficiency is a must this game. last year if we would have kicked 4 field goals there would have been 12 more points on our scoreboard. and if we would have had td's all 4 times your looking at 28 points. so add that to the end game total and your looking at a very close match.

p.s. we still scored the most points on SLC last year than anyone else. granted we did score against the 2nd string once

[zippy]

if you cant figure out who i am all you got to do is look at the number following my name then look up last years roster

but you are right zone efficiency is a must this game. last year if we would have kicked 4 field goals there would have been 12 more points on our scoreboard. and if we would have had td's all 4 times your looking at 28 points. so add that to the end game total and your looking at a very close match.

p.s. we still scored the most points on SLC last year than anyone else. granted we did score against the 2nd string once

I guess that little guy in your avatar is you as well. :eek:

[rams55]

what a good guess

yes that is me on the right

[drgnbkr]

what a good guess

yes that is me on the right

Again, it's great having a CHHS poster around! Welcome..

[rams55]

thank you again for the welcome

but its off to football practice

we play loras college this weekend and i am now the only center left that is not injured

[drgnbkr]

thank you again for the welcome

but its off to football practice

we play loras college this weekend and i am now the only center left that is not injured

Where are you playing?

[maxtor]

"""Because we did get disgraced this year be loosing to cedar hill"""

Nothing to be ashamed of losing to Cedar hill by a TD.

[rams55]

i play for cornell college

loosing to cedar hill is a disgrace, to me and the rest of the panther nation due to a couple of reasons.

1 they have been predicted to beat us every year and always( except for this year) we have dominated them.

2 we dont like loosing, the same with any other team

3 we still believe we are the better team and i can garuantee that if you were to set up another game against cedar hill and colleyville the panthers would foam at the mouth to kick around the longhorns



now im not saying that cedar hill isnt deserving of there current ranking because they did beat us but over the last ten years it has and will still continue to be colleyville dominence in that series.


i will give kudos to the cedar hill staff for finally getting there team to play as a TEAM because the school will continue to have raw talent but the coach must continue to shape the young men into what could very well be a powerhouse team

[rams55]

oh and by the way my brother was the one with the 46yard fumble recovery

[too playa]

SLC's biggest advantage on D comes from facing the best offense in the state every week in practice... Pretty simple...

~DnM

wow... i guess you dont practice what you preach...or.. were preaching to me in that other thread...i mean.. is that really thier biggest advantage? or is that just YOUR opinion? i mean.. where are the numbers that say thats thier BIGGEST ADVANTAGE..:eek:

[too playa]

No, I didn't.. He was guessing at a score.. I am going on proven statistics that have already been rolled up.

I can dig up statistics if you please... Hell, I am bored, why not...

TEAM OFFENSE

Team Rush Pass Avg. Yds.
SL Carroll 964 1278 560.5

I don't have the energy to find the past 3 years... Let's just say, though, that the next closest team in 5A is 60 yards in the rear view mirror, and this year's average total is down considerably so far... You are more than welcome to find the averages of any other team in the state... Go for it..

Proven STATS are different than someone trying to pull a score out of their ***... Nice attempt at making me look stupid, though.
~DnM

p.s Oh, and the best part of our little undersized, steroid infested team is...

TEAM DEFENSE

Team Rush Pass Avg. Yds.
SL Carroll 27 586 153.2

attempt? its already done. Been there done that. Oh and yes.. sorry for making a prediction... at least some ppl have the balls to do it and man up.. you were just upset that the thread wasnt about Southlake carroll.. so you used a poor excuse to turn it into a SLC thread instead.. then you got more upset...when I didnt bow down and fold like your lil groupies do... nope... but if you want to talk numbers this year... how many yds per game is NS giving up on defense? ... yeah.. whatever.. i could care less...:eek:

[Sakatha]

attempt? its already done. Been there done that. Oh and yes.. sorry for making a prediction... at least some ppl have the balls to do it and man up.. you were just upset that the thread wasnt about Southlake carroll.. so you used a poor excuse to turn it into a SLC thread instead.. then you got more upset...when I didnt bow down and fold like your lil groupies do... nope... but if you want to talk numbers this year... how many yds per game is NS giving up on defense? ... yeah.. whatever.. i could care less...:eek:

You are in arguably the worst district in the gulf coast area... Leave it alone. All you need to do is look at the stats to see the truth...

You *guessed* at a score... I sighted actual game play statistics...

~DnM

[Sakatha]

wow... i guess you dont practice what you preach...or.. were preaching to me in that other thread...i mean.. is that really thier biggest advantage? or is that just YOUR opinion? i mean.. where are the numbers that say thats thier BIGGEST ADVANTAGE..:eek:

Did you continue to read, genius?

~DnM

[Sakatha]

attempt? its already done. Been there done that. Oh and yes.. sorry for making a prediction... at least some ppl have the balls to do it and man up.. you were just upset that the thread wasnt about Southlake carroll.. so you used a poor excuse to turn it into a SLC thread instead.. then you got more upset...when I didnt bow down and fold like your lil groupies do... nope... but if you want to talk numbers this year... how many yds per game is NS giving up on defense? ... yeah.. whatever.. i could care less...:eek:

One last thing... I was refering to Lufkin in that thread. I don't believe I was ever talking about Carroll... If you didn't tune in tonight then you missed out.

NFW you hold Lufkin under 28...

~DnM

[dragons08]

thank you again for the welcome

but its off to football practice

we play loras college this weekend and i am now the only center left that is not injured
were you the one that blocked russo?

[dragons08]

im going to say...

SLC-56
CHHS-34

[FarmerFootballPlayer]

I think it'll be the past few Texas vs. Texas Tech games.

SLC 63, CH, 24

[rams55]

no i was not the one who blocked russo


russo who plays end was blocked by Todd marshall(southeastern osu)

however i due go to church with russo and he his very good friend of mine

[dragons08]

no i was not the one who gaurded russo


russo who plays end was gaurding by Todd marshall(southeastern osu)

however i due go to church with russo and he his very good friend of mine
"big red"

red hair, huge guy

[rams55]

no thats brit he's a senior this year

i thought russo played left d end not right d end


doesnt really matter though he's a great player and one of the play makers for the carroll defense

[dragons08]

no thats brit he's a senior this year

i thought russo played left d end not right d end


doesnt really matter though he's a great player and one of the play makers for the carroll defense
oh, cause some kids we play football with over the summer, know some kids at colleyville, and they asked them to play, and this kid said he blocked russo, and they called him "big red" thought he was a senior, but maybe he was a junior, either way he was HUGE

[rams55]

yea he's a big boy and he's getting alot of looks


but yes that is BRIT aka BIG RED

todd marshall doesnt have red hair and im going to take a stabb at it and say yoiu never saw him this summer or with anyone from southlake. he HATES anything southlake and or green

[dragons08]

yea he's a big boy and he's getting alot of looks


but yes that is BRIT aka BIG RED

todd marshall doesnt have red hair and im going to take a stabb at it and say yoiu never saw him this summer or with anyone from southlake. he HATES anything southlake and or green
haha, yeah i saw "big red" then...man that chhs line must be HUGE, hes (big red) gots to be pushing 300, he was the secret weapon...hand hte ball off to him and he'll run thru any body haha

[Pantherguy]

Thought I would throw my two cents in...I have read this board for about 2 years, but never posted...

Some of the things I have read about the CH defense aren't exactly on the mark...yes, they gave up some big yards against Richland, but the score was also 63-7 at one point early in the fourth quarter, so you can guess when most of the yards came...Richland really only had one drive all game (they returned a kick deep, and got their seven points against the starters right after that)...The Lake Highlands game was much the same way...up 37-14 in the early fourth, Russell went down with the shoulder injury, and we kind of packed up the offense, and LH scored twice late.

With that said, I think the defense will struggle to stop SLC (just like everyone else), but I think if they can force turnovers they can be OK (they do have, I believe 12 takeaways in 4 games)...they play a very agressive defensive scheme that can give up some chunks of yardage at times, but the pressure can pay off with turnovers...

The offense, however, I think will be able to score on SLC. Breece Johnson is an absolute stud (9 TDs in 4 games). No one ever really talks about him but if was over at Carroll, everyone in the state would know his name. I am very interested to see if Carroll will be able to slow them down.

This is a far better team than last year. The defense is much better and I think the offense has more weapons (the WRs have really developed, and Russell is fantastic). I am not sure if they will beat SLC, but I do think the game will be close in the fourth quarter. The key is if we don't turn the ball over early, we will have a shot. I think many times all Carroll needs is an early turnover and they can put a landslide of points on you before you can blink. If we can avoid that, I think we can hang. I am pretty certain this will be the best team SLC will play in the regular season (please don't tell me Evangel is better, they might have been good in the past, but that was not a good team).

Not trying to stir up the Dragon posting army here, just making an honest assesment. I have seen all of Colleyville's games and 2 SLC games, so I think I have a decent grasp on both teams.

Just to add to the Cedar Hill comment above, I know we have dominated in the past, but this is not your old typical Cedar Hill team. They are probably the fastest team I have ever seen in person postion by position. Just incredible. I thought CH played real well to stay in that game. I think they will make some noise in D2 before all is said and done.

Looking forward to tomorrow night, good luck to you guys and I hope it is a good injury-free game...

[rams55]

Thought I would throw my two cents in...I have read this board for about 2 years, but never posted...

Some of the things I have read about the CH defense aren't exactly on the mark...yes, they gave up some big yards against Richland, but the score was also 63-7 at one point early in the fourth quarter, so you can guess when most of the yards came...Richland really only had one drive all game (they returned a kick deep, and got their seven points against the starters right after that)...The Lake Highlands game was much the same way...up 37-14 in the early fourth, Russell went down with the shoulder injury, and we kind of packed up the offense, and LH scored twice late.

With that said, I think the defense will struggle to stop SLC (just like everyone else), but I think if they can force turnovers they can be OK (they do have, I believe 12 takeaways in 4 games)...they play a very agressive defensive scheme that can give up some chunks of yardage at times, but the pressure can pay off with turnovers...

The offense, however, I think will be able to score on SLC. Breece Johnson is an absolute stud (9 TDs in 4 games). No one ever really talks about him but if was over at Carroll, everyone in the state would know his name. I am very interested to see if Carroll will be able to slow them down.
This is a far better team than last year. The defense is much better and I think the offense has more weapons (the WRs have really developed, and Russell is fantastic). I am not sure if they will beat SLC, but I do think the game will be close in the fourth quarter. The key is if we don't turn the ball over early, we will have a shot. I think many times all Carroll needs is an early turnover and they can put a landslide of points on you before you can blink. If we can avoid that, I think we can hang. I am pretty certain this will be the best team SLC will play in the regular season (please don't tell me Evangel is better, they might have been good in the past, but that was not a good team).

Not trying to stir up the Dragon posting army here, just making an honest assesment. I have seen all of Colleyville's games and 2 SLC games, so I think I have a decent grasp on both teams.

Just to add to the Cedar Hill comment above, I know we have dominated in the past, but this is not your old typical Cedar Hill team. They are probably the fastest team I have ever seen in person postion by position. Just incredible. I thought CH played real well to stay in that game. I think they will make some noise in D2 before all is said and done.

Looking forward to tomorrow night, good luck to you guys and I hope it is a good injury-free game...

im rather confindent in saying that the whole metroplex knows of Breece Johnson he is one amazing reciever. with that said you are missing another key person Evan Walker his play last year and this year cannot be disputed. all the other recievers are great too


cedar hill has always been a fast team by the way and i still stand by my comment of it being a disgrace to lose to them. this however does mark the first time that cedar hill has been able to play as a team against colleyville


turnovers will be the key in this game and so will defense. the quote states "THE ONE WHO CONTROLS THE BALL , CONTROLS THE GAME"

[Pantherguy]

Walker is great too, no doubt...his emergence this year has really helped Breece. My point about Breece is that you hear all the talk about the Southlake guys, and I never hear his name in the papers and other places like you do the SLC guys. I have seen almost every game CH has ever played, and I can say without a doubt he is the best receiver we have ever had...nearly unstoppable...

And we will let the Cedar Hill thing die, but wait and watch in the playoffs. They are absolutely killing people this year, and I think they are a VERY good team (like dark horse state title good). But I understand your point about always beating them. They have always been fast, but never like this....

[rams55]

i agree with him being one of the best but in our recent past there are some other great ones as well

Donald Markley
Kevin Greene

these are two of my teamates from last year who just happen to pop out of my head.


the receiving corp at colleyville is deep this year and very talented and they will show up to play tonight and i think they will suprise the dragon at home

i predict upset 35-42 colleyville

[Grapeguy]

P-guy and Rams: Again good to have you posting your insights and opinions from a CHHS perspective. Hope you guys keep on here after the SLC game to tell us more. The Panthers seem to be a strong bet to be in the POs. As a 5-5A team, I wish them some success there too.

[Sakatha]

i agree with him being one of the best but in our recent past there are some other great ones as well

Donald Markley
Kevin Greene

these are two of my teamates from last year who just happen to pop out of my head.


the receiving corp at colleyville is deep this year and very talented and they will show up to play tonight and i think they will suprise the dragon at home

i predict upset 35-42 colleyville

There is one thing that's factual about this... Keep on predicting a Dragon loss, and eventually you'll be a genius!!

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

What on-line radio station is calling the SLC vs CH game ? Anyone please...

[Sakatha]

What on-line radio station is calling the SLC vs CH game ? Anyone please...


http://www.kkgmam.com/final/index2.html

~DnM

[Texasfrog]

http://www.kkgmam.com/final/index2.html

~DnM

Thanks for the info... It's raining here so I'm going to listen on my PC. I'm still predicting a dog-fight tonight.

[da hawaiian]

Won't be there either...will be listening from work

[rams55]

eventually SLC will lose in the regular season and why not now.

remember we did beat Denton Ryan this year and cedar hill was a hick up and only a one td loss. colleyville has what it takes and i think tonight will be a eye opener for the entire state and district 5-5a

should be a good one tonight

[SLC fan]

So are you predicting a win?

[da hawaiian]

Thanks for the info... It's raining here so I'm going to listen on my PC. I'm still predicting a dog-fight tonight.

I can't find the link to the game...any help?

[rancher52]

http://www.reachingmore.com/kkgm.HTM

[da hawaiian]

You're awsome

[rancher52]

You're awsome Not really but I try hard.

[Sakatha]

eventually SLC will lose in the regular season and why not now.

remember we did beat Denton Ryan this year and cedar hill was a hick up and only a one td loss. colleyville has what it takes and i think tonight will be a eye opener for the entire state and district 5-5a

should be a good one tonight

Wasn't so good afterall...

~DnM

[too playa]

Wasn't so good afterall...

~DnM

congrats on the win...u made a solid prediction.. and it was pretty close.... not too bad :eek:

[leanderdad]

I am an Idiot. I will not doubt SLC again. Congratulations on the win.

[Pantherguy]

I am in disbelief at the offense of CH tonight. Nice win, guys. My hat is off to you...the defense of SLC was all it was cracked up to be...

I actually thought our defense (CH) gave us a fighting chance early on forcing the turnovers, but our offense couldn't move the ball. In the middle of the second quarter our defense had been on the field the whole time because we couldn't move the ball at all....I am impressed...good luck to you guys this year.

Also, tonight threw the whole distict standings below us in a turmoil...I don't think CH will lose again, but underneath that it is all jumbled now. I am actually not suprised Richland beat Haltom, even though we killed them I said after the game I thought they would kill people in disctrict...

Anyway, congrats SLC...I leave the game very impressed by you guys...I think your defense might be the best you have in your 5a run...

[Grapeguy]

I am in disbelief at the offense of CH tonight. Nice win, guys. My hat is off to you...the defense of SLC was all it was cracked up to be...

I actually thought our defense (CH) gave us a fighting chance early on forcing the turnovers, but our offense couldn't move the ball. In the middle of the second quarter our defense had been on the field the whole time because we couldn't move the ball at all....I am impressed...good luck to you guys this year.

Also, tonight threw the whole distict standings below us in a turmoil...I don't think CH will lose again, but underneath that it is all jumbled now. I am actually not suprised Richland beat Haltom, even though we killed them I said after the game I thought they would kill people in disctrict...

Anyway, congrats SLC...I leave the game very impressed by you guys...I think your defense might be the best you have in your 5a run...

The radio broadcast said that Russell was 23-51 for 167 yards and the ground game picked up 23 yards.

[toonman]

70 points to 7 points in a week - that must be some kind of record. The great pretenders have been found wanting.

[Dragon20]

No!:)

[drgnbkr]

Carroll's defense was on their game tonight. I'm sure Heritage will get into the playoffs, but Colleyville will have a hard time going anywhere if they don't come up with a running game of some sort. Russell was chuckin and duckin for 3 quarters tonight. If they play a good team they will not be able to do anything with a pass only offense.

[toonman]

CHHS are team with a QB who has big arm and that’s it. I saw a lot of show and very little substance. Not very accurate, lots of under-thrown passes and lots of over thrown passes. In addition, without a meaningful rushing game; a long and deep run into the play-offs will just not happen for CHHS. Tonight’s slaughter could not have happened to a nicer school!!!!!!!!!

[Grapeguy]

Congrats to the Defense again. CHHS top two receivers each had ten catches but only 70 or 80 yards each. There were no long completions by Russell. Furthermore, there were no pass interference calls even thought there were 51 passing plays. A great performance!

[drgnbkr]

Congrats to the Defense again. CHHS top two receivers each had ten catches but only 70 or 80 yards each. There were no long completions by Russell. Furthermore, there were no pass interference calls even thought there were 51 passing plays. A great performance!

when you can't run, there will be some guys with catches, but they had relatively no yards after the catch..I was amazed at how poorly Russell threw the ball..even when he had time, he was very inaccurate.

[FarmerFootballPlayer]

It'll be interesting to see how CHHS rebounds from this loss. Hopefully for them, they don't hang their heads.

[drgnbkr]

It'll be interesting to see how CHHS rebounds from this loss. Hopefully for them, they don't hang their heads.

Last year they went into the tank after Carroll thumped them...I hope they get back up...Ponder was a far better QB IMO....

[koldham]

The answer to your question is ............UH.............NO!

[SLC13]

when you can't run, there will be some guys with catches, but they had relatively no yards after the catch..I was amazed at how poorly Russell threw the ball..even when he had time, he was very inaccurate.
23-51, I'd say so!! I think he found out it's alot tougher to throw with people in his face!! It's not July and 7 on 7 any longer........He is a nice punter, though. :D

[Pantherguy]

Casey played horrible tonight...I thought he looked OK early on, but was never the same after the fumble...in fact I would bet almost all his yards came before that play...again, great job by Carroll...I am frankly stunned that CH was shut down to that extent. Colleyville lost 2 to Carroll last year (the Carroll game and the game after, which they played flat the whole time), so the key is to go out and take care of Keller Central and move on.

As far as the running game, I agree, but you can function without much of a running game if you throw short effectively, especially on screens which will force the ends to hold back a bit. This will show my age, but Marcus did this several years ago on the way to their loss in the state title game. Their short passing game was like their running game. That has to be CH's only hope, becuase their running backs are not good.

Hats off to Carroll and good luck the rest of the year...

[dragonfootballfan]

It looked in this game that Colleyville does not even practice running the ball. I mean their handoffs were the worst that I have seen at the varsity level and I think that they had only 2 or 3 running plays where they passed the line of scrimmage

[DragonFan]

I think 11 total yards running is an indication that you need to work on some running plays.

[SLCDad]

Casey played horrible tonight...I thought he looked OK early on, but was never the same after the fumble...in fact I would bet almost all his yards came before that play...again, great job by Carroll...I am frankly stunned that CH was shut down to that extent. Colleyville lost 2 to Carroll last year (the Carroll game and the game after, which they played flat the whole time), so the key is to go out and take care of Keller Central and move on.

As far as the running game, I agree, but you can function without much of a running game if you throw short effectively, especially on screens which will force the ends to hold back a bit. This will show my age, but Marcus did this several years ago on the way to their loss in the state title game. Their short passing game was like their running game. That has to be CH's only hope, becuase their running backs are not good.

Hats off to Carroll and good luck the rest of the year...I think the Carroll pass rush had a lot to do with Casey playing "badly". He only had a few seconds to pass. I noted that he threw a ton of passes out of bounds. There were quite a few passes where the receivers were slightly open and they caught the ball, but the pass was thrown out of bounds.

The SLC defense has been very, very, very tough against the run this year. When we saw that CHHS had absolutely zero running chance, it was easy to predict that the game would be a blowout. Coach Dodge was smart to establish the SLC running game early.

[Grapeguy]

Casey played horrible tonight...I thought he looked OK early on, but was never the same after the fumble...in fact I would bet almost all his yards came before that play...again, great job by Carroll...I am frankly stunned that CH was shut down to that extent. Colleyville lost 2 to Carroll last year (the Carroll game and the game after, which they played flat the whole time), so the key is to go out and take care of Keller Central and move on.

Hats off to Carroll and good luck the rest of the year...

Thanks.

Russell had a couple of dropped balls when he did look good in the first quarter. He had many passes that really sailed on him. Also there were some sideline passes thrown to spots where there was no receiver. I think the Carroll bench was third in receptions behind Walker and Johnson. :eek: He does have very strong arm and quick release. He didn't take alot of sacks for QB throwing over 50 times with an ineffective running game.

The Dragon D had alot to do with his terrible play. I thought Ford did a superb job on Breece Johnson who is an excellent receiver. Also, the DBs were making big hits when the CHHS receivers were leaping for Russell's high passes.

Russell should be back to having 300 yard passing games next week against KC.

[dragonfootballfan]

I actually came away impressed with Russel. He had a great arm and an even better release. It was so fast. He had no time to throw and his coaches knew this and coached him to get rid of the ball in three seconds no matter what.

[drgnbkr]

I actually came away impressed with Russel. He had a great arm and an even better release. It was so fast. He had no time to throw and his coaches knew this and coached him to get rid of the ball in three seconds no matter what.

He was very inaccurate, even when he had time..I was way underwhelmed with his side-arm delivery..he was a good punter though. I just don't see that offense going anywhere in the playoffs and the defense is going to be unable to stop good teams.

[SLC13]

He was very inaccurate, even when he had time..I was way underwhelmed with his side-arm delivery..he was a good punter though. I just don't see that offense going anywhere in the playoffs and the defense is going to be unable to stop good teams.

I too was underwhelmed by Heritage. I believed the hype coming in that they were the 2nd best team in 5-5A, but after seeing them in person I'm not so sure that they have a lock on that 2nd spot.

Their defense is terrible. Any team that can run the ball will pile up big yardage and points. On offense they are one dimensional. No running attack to speak of and the passing attack consists of two receivers. Limit those two and get a little pressure on their QB and they won't put up big enough numbers to cover for their defense deficiencies. I could easily see them losing another district game or two before it all said and done.......

[Grapeguy]

[QUOTE=SLC13]I too was underwhelmed by Heritage. I believed the hype coming in that they were the 2nd best team in 5-5A, but after seeing them in person I'm not so sure that they have a lock on that 2nd spot.[QUOTE=SLC13]

So SLC has five more opponents to play in district. Who will give them the best game? NW was the heir apparent to the 2nd spot in 5-5A but lost to GV who had stumbled badly for two weeks. Richland was swamped by CHHS and Haltom lost to Richland. Keller is in the toilet.

Will any of these games be competitive into the second half? Things can change dramatically from week to week but the rest of 5-5A is looking really anemic after Week 2 of district play.

[toonman]

[QUOTE=SLC13]I too was underwhelmed by Heritage. I believed the hype coming in that they were the 2nd best team in 5-5A, but after seeing them in person I'm not so sure that they have a lock on that 2nd spot.[QUOTE=SLC13]

So SLC has five more opponents to play in district. Who will give them the best game? NW was the heir apparent to the 2nd spot in 5-5A but lost to GV who had stumbled badly for two weeks. Richland was swamped by CHHS and Haltom lost to Richland. Keller is in the toilet.

Will any of these games be competitive into the second half? Things can change dramatically from week to week but the rest of 5-5A is looking really anemic after Week 2 of district play.

As I said in another thread, SLC will not be seriously challenged until the play-offs. If it is the D1 route, then Euless Trinity in Round 2 will be the first real test of the season. If SLC goes the D2 route then it will be Lufkin in the Region 1v2 Game. The rest of the district games will be a joke, as SLC blows away all the other teams by 50+ points. Colleyville was supposed to the big threat!!!!!!!

[Grapeguy]

Toon - You're probably right about district. The POs could be different. In the first two years of 5-5A, SLC had close calls against Sam Houston and Monty who both had 5 losses in the regular season.

[drgnbkr]

Toon - You're probably right about district. The POs could be different. In the first two years of 5-5A, SLC had close calls against Sam Houston and Monty who both had 5 losses in the regular season.

There were'nt any of those type teams last year and this years D is just too strong for that, IMO

[SLC13]

As I said in another thread, SLC will not be seriously challenged until the play-offs. If it is the D1 route, then Euless Trinity in Round 2 will be the first real test of the season. If SLC goes the D2 route then it will be Lufkin in the Region 1v2 Game. The rest of the district games will be a joke, as SLC blows away all the other teams by 50+ points. Colleyville was supposed to the big threat!!!!!!!
Toonman, On the D2 side, I think Cedar Hill might provide a bit of a challenge, otherwise you're probably right about Lufkin being the first real test.

[DragonFan]

Look at some of the cedar Hill games and you will see it is the QB's show. He is scary fast and makes things happen. A well disaplined team will stop him and therefore stop Cedar Hill. Cedar Hill is a classic example of a one man show with a good enough supporting staff to make for a good High School team. Not a great one but a better than average one.

[drgnbkr]

Look at some of the cedar Hill games and you will see it is the QB's show. He is scary fast and makes things happen. A well disaplined team will stop him and therefore stop Cedar Hill. Cedar Hill is a classic example of a one man show with a good enough supporting staff to make for a good High School team. Not a great one but a better than average one.

Colleyville hung 28 on Cedar Hill..tells me they don't have much of a defense..also look at last night..leaked like an old rowboat..

[rams55]

colleyville beat themselves before carroll did and thats the only way i see it

yes carroll did win this one but they didnt win it alone. colleyville continually shot its self in the foot.

sorry it couldnt have been a better game i just think the offense over thought it. the defense played as expected the O just fell flat after the first drive

:(

[drgnbkr]

colleyville beat themselves before carroll did and thats the only way i see it

yes carroll did win this one but they didnt win it alone. colleyville continually shot its self in the foot.

sorry it couldnt have been a better game i just think the offense over thought it. the defense played as expected the O just fell flat after the first drive

:(

I guess your right...Russell was throwing to no one after the first..I've never seen so many poorly thrown balls, a lot of them with no pressure....:eek:

[ScottS]

colleyville beat themsel