Aggies vs Tech at College Station

[twcpfan1]

Any predictions on the score?

[jtk1519]

31-24 Tech

[farmerfan]

41-35 A&M. It's in college station and Tech has only won their once in the last 10 tries or something like that. I dont think Tech is as good as people thought and right now it seems as if Graham Harrell is not picking up this offense, plus playing in college station will be difficult for the young gun slinger.

[lonny23]

A&M is not going to score much on Tech. Tech will probably have a little harder time scoring than the last game. A&M really hasn't played anybody.

Tech 28
A&M 14

[LeanderLions3033]

A&M's lack of playing anybody so far can either help or hurt for this game.

Since they haven't played anybody worth anything you just don't know what this team could bring to the table. They could be weak, or they could just come out and thrash Tech since nobody really knows the identity of this team yet. With that being said however

Tech 35
A&M 24

I'll give the edge to Mike Leach over Gary _arnell any day of the week.

[the_pack]

Tceh never plays well at Kyle Field. Actually, nobody plays well at Kyle Field. The Ags win.

A&M-35
tceh-31

[Texasfrog]

I'm going with Tx Tech in this game. I dont have a score prediction just yet but I think Tx Tech is just better then A&M right now.

The only way A&M is going to win this game is if they dominate the "running game" and score and control the clock.

[Favpack]

Is Tech better than Army? Yes
Will A&M improve over the next week? No

Tech - 21
A&M - 17

If Tech gears up - which they may, it will get ugly.

FFN

Fire
Fran
Now

[Firebird]

Actually, A&M has won 8 of the last 10 meetings at Kyle. I still think Tech gets em in College Station.

[elprezidente]

if the 12th man could run on the field then maybe a&m has a change.... other then that its all red raiders.

lets go bold and say tech 49-14.

[Owls06]

RUMOR has it that if fran lost to army he was going to be fired THAT NIGHT.

The alumni association/12th man association is willing to buy out the rest of his contract at the end of the year.

[GarlandOwl06]

if the 12th man could run on the field then maybe a&m has a change.... other then that its all red raiders.

lets go bold and say tech 49-14.

Have you seen Tech's offense this year?

[Reaganrattler07]

Is Tech better than Army? Yes
Will A&M improve over the next week? No

Tech - 21
A&M - 17

If Tech gears up - which they may, it will get ugly.

FFN

Fire
Fran
Now

Because A&M's gonna come out for Tech the exact way they did for Army.:rolleyes:

[slorch]

Tech 16
aggy 13

Tech is 2-3 in last 5 games at Lassie Field, and 7-3 in the series-not exactly terrible.

Fight!Raiders! Fight!

[#1DawgFan]

RUMOR has it that if fran lost to army he was going to be fired THAT NIGHT.

The alumni association/12th man association is willing to buy out the rest of his contract at the end of the year.

man don't tease me........Fire Fran NOW!!!!!!!!!

[RocklandDragon]

Red Raiders 37
Aggies 20

I'm glad Hicks has returned.

:cool:

[Lp78]

man don't tease me........Fire Fran NOW!!!!!!!!!

Now, isn't soon enough! :mad:

[lonny23]

Have you seen Tech's offense this year?
35 vs. SMU
38 vs. UTEP
3 vs. TCU
62 vs. SE Lousyanna

They can score a few.

[lonny23]

Red Raiders 37
Aggies 20

I'm glad Hicks has returned.

:cool:
So am I. He might've been back for UTEP, but Tech asked for a 2 week extension to get more paperwork together. That cost him the UTEP and TCU games!:mad:

[DragonBand06]

35 vs. SMU
38 vs. UTEP
3 vs. TCU
62 vs. SE Lousyanna

They can score a few.
Weren't they beat by the only decent team they've played, and barely escaped vs. UTEP? Let's see point differential...

[lonny23]

Weren't they beat by the only decent team they've played, and barely escaped vs. UTEP? Let's see point differential...
Yeah, they were beat. Personally, I think they goofed off the first 3 games before getting serious last week.

[garlandredraider]

Oh please dont talk about how we got beat by the only decent team we have played.... A&M almost lost to ARMY! Plus playing 2 teams that went to a bowl last year (@UTEP),(@TCU) ... (which is more than aggie can produce)... I say we have come out of these first 4 games in good shape and ready for Big 12 play.

BTW: Tech has OWNED A&M the past 10 years. This is not your ole A&M team... yes they are 4-0.. but anyone can be 4-0 with that schedule.

Tech is getting Harrell worked in. He was a little off from what we are used to, but he will come around. And with HICKS BACK!!!!!! WHOO HOO for that!

Also... look at Tech's Defense. 0 Touchdowns in 3 of the 4 games. I am empressed with the D this year... and if the offense can just get started, then I am not worried about this game at all.

Here is a rundown of the last 5 years of this game.
2001- Tech-12, A&M-0
2002- Tech-48, A&M-47 (OT)
2003- Tech-59, A&M-28
2004- A&M-32, Tech-25 (OT)
2005- Tech-56, A&M-17
2006- I am going to predict... Tech-31; A&M-21

And I don't care if it is Kyle Field...we can win there... and so can other people... (IOWA ST....etc.) Or How about Texas State and Baylor giving them a hard time at home last year. 12th man can only do so much... your other 11 have to do something.

Drop 10 rush 1. Thats the A&M way!

Here are some videos to get the week started! LETS GO TECH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w069xdeHEzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsnlxmYTq-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZIKz3AOd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ97AIK0Fs0

[backthepack]

A&M almost lost to ARMY!

Wow...that really proved a point. :rolleyes:

And looking at the scores over the past few years (as I am under the assumption that you think we "suck" or something) we "Almost" beat you twice...

[FootballJunkie]

Wow...that really proved a point. :rolleyes:

And looking at the scores over the past few years (as I am under the assumption that you think we "suck" or something) we "Almost" beat you twice...

Lets be real guy...Texas A@M does suck!!!

[farmerfan]

A&M is not going to score much on Tech. Tech will probably have a little harder time scoring than the last game. A&M really hasn't played anybody.

Tech 28
A&M 14

At home A&M will score more than 14 on TECH.

[farmerfan]

Oh please dont talk about how we got beat by the only decent team we have played.... A&M almost lost to ARMY! Plus playing 2 teams that went to a bowl last year (@UTEP),(@TCU) ... (which is more than aggie can produce)... I say we have come out of these first 4 games in good shape and ready for Big 12 play.

BTW: Tech has OWNED A&M the past 10 years. This is not your ole A&M team... yes they are 4-0.. but anyone can be 4-0 with that schedule.

Tech is getting Harrell worked in. He was a little off from what we are used to, but he will come around. And with HICKS BACK!!!!!! WHOO HOO for that!

Also... look at Tech's Defense. 0 Touchdowns in 3 of the 4 games. I am empressed with the D this year... and if the offense can just get started, then I am not worried about this game at all.

Here is a rundown of the last 5 years of this game.
2001- Tech-12, A&M-0
2002- Tech-48, A&M-47 (OT)
2003- Tech-59, A&M-28
2004- A&M-32, Tech-25 (OT)
2005- Tech-56, A&M-17
2006- I am going to predict... Tech-31; A&M-21

And I don't care if it is Kyle Field...we can win there... and so can other people... (IOWA ST....etc.) Or How about Texas State and Baylor giving them a hard time at home last year. 12th man can only do so much... your other 11 have to do something.

Drop 10 rush 1. Thats the A&M way!

Here are some videos to get the week started! LETS GO TECH!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w069xdeHEzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsnlxmYTq-8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZIKz3AOd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ97AIK0Fs0

sure A&M has played a real weak schedule but they were left in a grind when FSU canceled the series with A&M a few years ago. Also I dont think any Tech fan has any room to talk about scheduling I mean you are the program that scheduled Indiana State and Sam Houston state a year ago. Tech only put up 35 on SMU and UTEP bowl team or not gave you everything you wanted in El Paso. That says to me that Tech will not waltz into Kyle Field and give A&M a beating. In fact the last 2 games Tech has won at Kyle Field I believe have been very very close.

[farmerfan]

Yeah, they were beat. Personally, I think they goofed off the first 3 games before getting serious last week.


They played SE Louisiana, any decent D1 team would destroy SE Louisiana. You cant read too much into that game at all.

[elprezidente]

Have you seen Tech's offense this year?
yes i have nad expect the aggies defense to crumble after a 60 yard td. pass. .......i can dream.

[svhorns]

Tceh wins the game... exposes aggy secondary for at least 300 yards...

[drgnbkr]

Tceh wins the game... exposes aggy secondary for at least 300 yards...

Tceh Woodlands?

[farmerfan]

Tceh wins the game... exposes aggy secondary for at least 300 yards...

If A&M can keep it around the 300-350 mark that would be a huge improvement considering what they have given up in years past. Also as much as Tech throws the football it is a given that they will rack up at least 300 yds passing in any game. I think the lone exception a year ago was against Alabama. If the Aggies can stop the running game the way they did two years ago and limit the Tech passing game then they will not get blown out and have every chance to win the game. Remember its not the Aggie offense that has been lacking the last few years it has been more of the defense. A&M will move the football and score points on the Tech D and with a young QB coming into College Station who has not gotten into a groove yet that will be a big factor for the Aggies. Last time Tech came to College Station with a QB this young and inexperienced was in 2000 with Kliff and the Aggie D and Kyle Field crowd made it a living hell for him that day. Sure the Aggie D is a former shade of itself from 2000 but I believe they will cause more havoic on this Tech team than they have in the last few years. Another advantage for A&M is they are playing Tech early. The last few years they have played them late when the Tech offense was in late season form, so far this year they dont resemble anything close to the offense the Ags have faced the last few years.

[BeauxGeezy]

Tech-41
aggy-14

Two TD's for Javorskie.
No defense for aggy and Tech wins this one easily.

[Reaganrattler07]

Tceh Woodlands?

You haven't seen the picture?

[AZTiger]

Tech-41
aggy-14

Two TD's for Javorskie.
No defense for aggy and Tech wins this one easily.

you could only hope couldnt you?

[biki1121]

Hmmm,,,

Tech to Win-- Protect Harrell and pass into the middle of the field. Screen isn't going to work against Aggies, but play action will. Video of LaTech shows Ags had a ton of near pics and were really ball hawking against zone passes. Tech has to use the middle of the field to cheat the extra db down to the middle to help the LBs. Then throw the deep ball to your newly restored star WR. Mix in some timely play action and don't be afraid to run a few draws and delays to the RB. Defensively, Tech is better than people think. Bring the blitz and stay on your assignments. Take the pounding from Lane but stop McGee at all costs. Giving up 8 to Lane is much better than giving up 35 to McGee. The DEs have to remain disciplined and make him pitch. Goodson hasn't shown the hands yets, feet are impressive but the hands are still questionable. If Lewis is active, all bets are off on the pitch. Defend Tellus and Schroeder as the Aggie passing games goes as these 2 go.

Aggies to win-- first, don't run into the kicker (JUST KIDDING)! Lane, Lane, and then hit them with Lewis, Tellus, or Schroeder. When they begin to flow to the pitch man, McGee keeps and knocks off the big runs. Tellus or another TE needs to catch the ball at least 5 times. Put speed on the field and stretch the field, Shankle and Morrow can fly like Schroeder. Put them in the game and stretch the field. It makes that pass to the TE easier. Tech LBs will key on Lane early, make them pay. Defensively, follow the plan of the schools that beat Tech. Be extremely physical up front with the receivers and throw off the timing of the zone passing. You can't do that playing 7-9 yards off the receivers. Bring the down 4 and a LB on every play, leave the other LB in the middle to defend the short zone. Throw in a timely zone blitz and pressure Harrell. Don't look at the stats and don't get discouraged. Tech will get some yards, the key is keeping them out of the end zone.

Factors yet to be determined-- Aggie special teams. If the Aggies get it together, this game goes to them. If they have stupid mistakes, it could get out of hand quickly.

My prediction...... Aggies win at Kyle with heroics from McGee and Lane. Plus I just want to see Leach blow a gasket! :D

[DragonBand06]

Aggies to win-- first, don't run into the kicker (JUST KIDDING)!I think that on our first punt, we just get the J-Train to run straight into whoever is fair-catching and take the penalty...:D
(J/K!)

[lonny23]

Hmmm,,,

Tech to Win-- Protect Harrell and pass into the middle of the field. Screen isn't going to work against Aggies, but play action will. Video of LaTech shows Ags had a ton of near pics and were really ball hawking against zone passes. Tech has to use the middle of the field to cheat the extra db down to the middle to help the LBs. Then throw the deep ball to your newly restored star WR. Mix in some timely play action and don't be afraid to run a few draws and delays to the RB. Defensively, Tech is better than people think. Bring the blitz and stay on your assignments. Take the pounding from Lane but stop McGee at all costs. Giving up 8 to Lane is much better than giving up 35 to McGee. The DEs have to remain disciplined and make him pitch. Goodson hasn't shown the hands yets, feet are impressive but the hands are still questionable. If Lewis is active, all bets are off on the pitch. Defend Tellus and Schroeder as the Aggie passing games goes as these 2 go.

Aggies to win-- first, don't run into the kicker (JUST KIDDING)! Lane, Lane, and then hit them with Lewis, Tellus, or Schroeder. When they begin to flow to the pitch man, McGee keeps and knocks off the big runs. Tellus or another TE needs to catch the ball at least 5 times. Put speed on the field and stretch the field, Shankle and Morrow can fly like Schroeder. Put them in the game and stretch the field. It makes that pass to the TE easier. Tech LBs will key on Lane early, make them pay. Defensively, follow the plan of the schools that beat Tech. Be extremely physical up front with the receivers and throw off the timing of the zone passing. You can't do that playing 7-9 yards off the receivers. Bring the down 4 and a LB on every play, leave the other LB in the middle to defend the short zone. Throw in a timely zone blitz and pressure Harrell. Don't look at the stats and don't get discouraged. Tech will get some yards, the key is keeping them out of the end zone.

Factors yet to be determined-- Aggie special teams. If the Aggies get it together, this game goes to them. If they have stupid mistakes, it could get out of hand quickly.

My prediction...... Aggies win at Kyle with heroics from McGee and Lane. Plus I just want to see Leach blow a gasket! :D
Leach blow a gasket?

If A&M wins, I'll give you the engine, transmission, and fuel pump, too!:D

[Sacred Ground]

A&M TE Martellus Bennett on Texas Tech fans throwing batteries at opposing teams:

"I dropped the remote battery on my foot—that hurts, and I’m 6-7. Imagine it coming from the top of the stadium, with gravity times velocity times speed. By the time it hits you, that hurts pretty bad."

[Sacred Ground]

A&M hair update
Apparently the Aggies aren't into going to barbers. TE Martellus Bennett is sporting a Mohawk. He said RB Jorvorskie Lane cut his hair for him. Shaggy-haired redshirt freshman CB Jordan Peterson said he hasn't had a haircut since his senior year of high school because his mom always cut his hair and he doesn't go home much these days.

[Sacred Ground]

If Team A beats Team B...

A&M S Melvin Bullitt of Garland Naaman Forest's logic on how the Aggies' nonconference schedule prepared them for Texas Tech: A&M beat Army, Army beat Baylor, Baylor almost beat TCU, and TCU beat Tech.

[slorch]

A&M TE Martellus Bennett on Texas Tech fans throwing batteries at opposing teams:

"I dropped the remote battery on my foot—that hurts, and I’m 6-7. Imagine it coming from the top of the stadium, with gravity times velocity times speed. By the time it hits you, that hurts pretty bad."
the only thing we ever threw were goalposts:eek:

or tortillas!:D

[DragonBand06]

A&M TE Martellus Bennett on Texas Tech fans throwing batteries at opposing teams:

"I dropped the remote battery on my foot—that hurts, and I’m 6-7. Imagine it coming from the top of the stadium, with gravity times velocity times speed. By the time it hits you, that hurts pretty bad."
Apparently he needs a new Physics tutor...
BTW, it's equal to:
sqrt([accel. due to gravity*sqrt(2*height/accel. due to gravity)*sin(angle of impact)]^2+[velocity initial*cos(angle of impact)]^2)...
Everyone should know that!

[Sacred Ground]

the only thing we ever threw were goalposts:eek:

or tortillas!:D

Throwing tortillas? Now that would be worth watching!

[DragonBand06]

Throwing tortillas? Now that would be worth watching!
I heard a guy say the other day if we won he's going to drive around CS and throw tortillas at Tech fans...

[Sacred Ground]

Apparently he needs a new Physics tutor...
BTW, it's equal to:
sqrt([accel. due to gravity*sqrt(2*height/accel. due to gravity)*sin(angle of impact)]^2+[velocity initial*cos(angle of impact)]^2)...
Everyone should know that!

I'll take your word for it. Physics was not my area of expertise.

[slorch]

Throwing tortillas? Now that would be worth watching!
it was all the rage in the 90's. It was cool until people started freezing them!

[lonny23]

the only thing we ever threw were goalposts:eek:

or tortillas!:D
Now we can't do either with the commies working security. All quotes are a loose re-enactment of things that have been said at the games.

"Don't bring in any tortillas."

"Don't come on the playing field."

"You can't bring that hat in here."

"I don't care if it's rained for 40 days and 40 nights, you can't bring that umbrella in here."

"Is that water and formula REALLY for your baby?"

[DragonBand06]

Hey lonny if we win this weekend I'll let you help us bury the Tech fans in tortillas... and if we lose you can slap me in the face with one.

[DragonBand06]

P.S. I'm finally almost to 700! I think I lost quite a few in the Hack episode...

[lonny23]

I heard a guy say the other day if we won he's going to drive around CS and throw tortillas at Tech fans...
I was so mad after the Tech-TCU game that I wanted to throw something at the Tech tractor trailer.

[DragonBand06]

I was so mad after the Tech-TCU game that I wanted to throw something at the Tech tractor trailer.
lol...we have a cannon...and a couple thousand infantry... *evil grin*

[lonny23]

Hey lonny if we win this weekend I'll let you help us bury the Tech fans in tortillas... and if we lose you can slap me in the face with one.
I was planning on tossing tortillas during the Cotton Bowl, but the game was only on the radio instead of TV in Kyrgyzstan and I didn't feel motivated enough that late at night.

I need to figure out something special to wear for the game!:D

[lonny23]

lol...we have a cannon...and a couple thousand infantry... *evil grin*
I'll cut those guys some slack because a few good one's come from A&M, but most are just wannabe soldiers. I was disappointed to hear you could be in the Corps and not join the military.

[DragonBand06]

I'll cut those guys some slack because a few good one's come from A&M, but most are just wannabe soldiers. I was disappointed to hear you could be in the Corps and not join the military.
I agree. The thing that I think upsets me the most is simply peoples' lack of knowledge when they judge. I also think it's disappointing that you don't have to join the military, but what most people don't understand is that even if they are wannabe soldiers, they are very dedicated to what they do, they are very disciplined, and it's not just a weekend dress-up game. However, I totally see your point of view too.

On a lighter note, I was thinking we get the corps and go tractor-tipping...:D

[lonny23]

I agree. The thing that I think upsets me the most is simply peoples' lack of knowledge when they judge. I also think it's disappointing that you don't have to join the military, but what most people don't understand is that even if they are wannabe soldiers, they are very dedicated to what they do, they are very disciplined, and it's not just a weekend dress-up game. However, I totally see your point of view too.

On a lighter note, I was thinking we get the corps and go tractor-tipping...:D
They're definitely disciplined. There are good principles to be taken from your time in the Corps.

[DragonBand06]

It also upset me when I found out that they let people in if they have less-than-technically-required grades, if they say they'll go into the corps.

[BeauxGeezy]

even if they are wannabe soldiers, they are very dedicated to what they do, they are very disciplined, and it's not just a weekend dress-up game

For those of us who actually served in the military....that statement makes absolutely no sense. Either you are..............or you aren't....simple as that.

That's all I will say about this subject.

[LP-79]

For those of us who actually served in the military....that statement makes absolutely no sense. Either you are..............or you aren't....simple as that.

That's all I will say about this subject.
That sounds like it comes from a man that has been there done that!

By the way Does anybody know what dried cow@h$t sounds like it when it hits barbed wire?

[Twin Threat]

Tech should win this, A&M isn't that dominating this year. One of my sons ask me what the difference between A&M and sugar puff cereal was? He said sugar puffs make to the bowls

[the_pack]

If Team A beats Team B...

A&M S Melvin Bullitt of Garland Naaman Forest's logic on how the Aggies' nonconference schedule prepared them for Texas Tech: A&M beat Army, Army beat Baylor, Baylor almost beat TCU, and TCU beat Tech.
Therefore the Aggies beat tceh.

[LUFPAN]

Should be a great game at Kyle Field. Coming into the season I would have thought Tech would win this hands down. Now, I think it might be a little closer. Not because of the Aggies record against a collection of girl scout troops, but because Tech has not looked that great either.

[farmerfan]

Should be a great game at Kyle Field. Coming into the season I would have thought Tech would win this hands down. Now, I think it might be a little closer. Not because of the Aggies record against a collection of girl scout troops, but because Tech has not looked that great either.

The only impressive win Tech has so far is wait, none. They beat SMU who was defeated by UNT the following week, they beat UTEP by 3 and a D1AA team last week. Everyone knocks the A&M schedule and ask whothey have beaten, well tell me who has Tech beat that was so impressive? This game will be very close, much like the 2002 and 2004 games. I also think with this game being so early in the season it benefits the Ags a whole lot. Tech and A&M usually play later in the season when the TEch offense is gelling, right now they are far from that.

[Mean DT]

latest line A&M by 1 1/2, i like the aggies by 7.:D

[Firebird]

The only impressive win Tech has so far is wait, none. They beat SMU who was defeated by UNT the following week, they beat UTEP by 3 and a D1AA team last week. Everyone knocks the A&M schedule and ask whothey have beaten, well tell me who has Tech beat that was so impressive? This game will be very close, much like the 2002 and 2004 games. I also think with this game being so early in the season it benefits the Ags a whole lot. Tech and A&M usually play later in the season when the TEch offense is gelling, right now they are far from that.

UTEP was a far saltier opponent than any the Aggies squared up against this year. They are coming off a bowl season and expected to factor in to thier conference race. It was a good experience for the Raiders to play a close game in a hostile environment (the Sun Bowl was rocking for that game).

I will give you that this could end up a closer contest than some are expecting. We'll see whether Leach has got the pirate ship back into ship-shape condition. If Harrell gets protection and the recievers are catching passes, it's gonna be a long day for the Aggies. If we see another TCU-like effort, then Tech leaves College Station with 2 losses. I think Leach has them ready to play.

[farmerfan]

UTEP was a far saltier opponent than any the Aggies squared up against this year. They are coming off a bowl season and expected to factor in to thier conference race. It was a good experience for the Raiders to play a close game in a hostile environment (the Sun Bowl was rocking for that game).

I will give you that this could end up a closer contest than some are expecting. We'll see whether Leach has got the pirate ship back into ship-shape condition. If Harrell gets protection and the recievers are catching passes, it's gonna be a long day for the Aggies. If we see another TCU-like effort, then Tech leaves College Station with 2 losses. I think Leach has them ready to play.


In this day and age everyone goes to a bowl, UTEP coming off a bowl season playing in the mountain west or wac is not that impressive. SUre El Paso was rocking but there were probably more Tech fans in the stadium than there will be this week, also the SUn Bowl is not near as hostile as Kyle Field is. Factor in a young QB making his first BIg 12 start then that could spell disaster, see Kliff KIngsbury in his first start at Kyle field in 2000. If UTEP can score 35 on Tech I am pretty sure A&M can do the same. I think this year Tech is the one who might be a tad overrated. They have done nothing in my mind to warrant a top 25 ranking at this point.

[Firebird]

In this day and age everyone goes to a bowl, UTEP coming off a bowl season playing in the mountain west or wac is not that impressive. SUre El Paso was rocking but there were probably more Tech fans in the stadium than there will be this week, also the SUn Bowl is not near as hostile as Kyle Field is. Factor in a young QB making his first BIg 12 start then that could spell disaster, see Kliff KIngsbury in his first start at Kyle field in 2000. If UTEP can score 35 on Tech I am pretty sure A&M can do the same. I think this year Tech is the one who might be a tad overrated. They have done nothing in my mind to warrant a top 25 ranking at this point.


That is why they don't have one right now, and I agree.. after the way they showed up to play at TCU, they should have lost the top 25 ranking. Plus, Tech has won at Kyle field before, they can do it again. I don't see A&M winning this thing big, and if it turns into a track meet, the Raiders have the edge. Mike Price at UTEP plays a wide open offense, A&M doesn't. Tech did very, very well controlling the run against TCU, and I think TCU has a better O than the Aggies this year. The strength of the Tech D is up front and at linebacker, so Stephen McGee better be ready to beat them in the air.

The only hope the Aggies have, IMO, is to slow everything down and try to get some pressure on Harrell, who hasn't handled it well. It's going to be tougher for them than it was for the 'Frogs--- I don't think people realize how much having Jarrett Hicks on the field will help with our offense. Someone is going to have to account for him deep every play. That is also going to free up Johnson and Filani on the shorter routes. If they don't drop passes--look out.

It does help A&M that their defensive front has played well, and Tech's O-line didn't stand up in their toughest test thus far. That is going to be the key for the Aggies--getting Harrell as a young qb shaken up. They need to do it early-- TCU got to him early, and he never recovered.

This could turn into a close game. If it is low scoring, the Aggies might win it. But Tech will win in a track meet. You need to hope that the Ag's don't score 35 on Tech-- because that will probably mean that Tech scores about 40 on them.

[farmerfan]

That is why they don't have one right now, and I agree.. after the way they showed up to play at TCU, they should have lost the top 25 ranking. Plus, Tech has won at Kyle field before, they can do it again. I don't see A&M winning this thing big, and if it turns into a track meet, the Raiders have the edge. Mike Price at UTEP plays a wide open offense, A&M doesn't. Tech did very, very well controlling the run against TCU, and I think TCU has a better O than the Aggies this year. The strength of the Tech D is up front and at linebacker, so Stephen McGee better be ready to beat them in the air.

The only hope the Aggies have, IMO, is to slow everything down and try to get some pressure on Harrell, who hasn't handled it well. It's going to be tougher for them than it was for the 'Frogs--- I don't think people realize how much having Jarrett Hicks on the field will help with our offense. Someone is going to have to account for him deep every play. That is also going to free up Johnson and Filani on the shorter routes. If they don't drop passes--look out.

It does help A&M that their defensive front has played well, and Tech's O-line didn't stand up in their toughest test thus far. That is going to be the key for the Aggies--getting Harrell as a young qb shaken up. They need to do it early-- TCU got to him early, and he never recovered.

This could turn into a close game. If it is low scoring, the Aggies might win it. But Tech will win in a track meet. You need to hope that the Ag's don't score 35 on Tech-- because that will probably mean that Tech scores about 40 on them.

MIke Price might run a wide open offense at UTEP but he does not have the overall talent roaming the sideline and in the skill posistions that are at A&M. Tech has won at College Station before, but that was with Kliff Kingsbury at QB and he did so in come from behind fashon, right now Graham Harrell is far from being Kliff, in fact that last time the Raiders came to College STation with this young of a QB it was Kliff in 2000 and he struggled all afternoon to the tune of around 10 sacks.
I also disagree on the TCU running game being better than A&M's, A&M has a stable of RB's and a QB who can move better than what TCU has. The trend that this rivalry has shown in the last 10 years is that in college station the game is close with usually A&M coming out on top and in Lubbock the game is not close and TEch comes out on top. I dont believe any of the current starters played in the last Tech victory at Kyle field, but I do believe some of them did play in the last visit to Kyle field which was a TEch loss.

[Owls06]

From what i'm hearing around the campus, Courtney Lewis and Yemi Babalola will be back for tech.

Courtney will bring MUCH needed experience back to the backfield. Goodson is going go be a great back, but he's not ready to be the feature back yet. But he is crazy fast. Having a reliable "outside" back will open up Lane on the inside, though he can take it to the outside. Of course, this is where Yemi helps.

Having Yemi will return the chemistry of the starting O-Line. He brings significant help to a line that seemed to struggle early in the pass blocking against LaTech. I mean, it's nice to have an all-american on the line anyway :P

[Sacred Ground]

Is A&M really outrecruiting Tech?

I thought the recruiting info was especially interesting in today's A&M-Tech comparison. Here it is:

State top 100 recruits
Texas A&M: 71
Texas Tech: 29

National top 100 recruits
Texas A&M: 12
Texas Tech: 0*

*Does not include guard Ofa Mohetau, a national top 100 recruit out of Euless Trinity who signed with Tech after a season at a junior college.

Those numbers make a clear case for Mike Leach and the Tech staff doing a much better coaching job than Dennis Franchione and the A&M staff.

It also illustrates the difference between the way A&M and Tech recruit. The Aggies load up early on "can't-miss" prospects who often arrive on campus with egos to match their hype. The Red Raiders rely much more on scouting seniors who aren't on the radar screens of national powers for whatever reason. Those guys go to college with a lot to prove.

Tim MacMahon-DMN

[Sacred Ground]

Questions and Answers by Rachel Cohen-DMN

Brad M. writes in response to the battery debate:

First, so you know where I am coming from, I was a member of the Fightin’ Texas Aggie Band for four years. Based on experience, I have had them thrown my direction as we would be walking down the end zone. While I was in the band, we had one of our members get gashed in the head because of it. In case you forgot, that is why they put the canopy over the tunnel where the opposing team and band come through. I have also seen beer bottles launched at the band in the stands from the grassy knoll in Jones Stadium.

Kyle H., A&M Class of '88, writes:

I think that since the goal post incident (and A&M’s subsequent labeling of the Tech fans as “classless clowns” in the following year’s media guide, to which A&M was forced to apologize), our rivalry with Tech has become more of a “nasty” one, whereas the rivalry with Texas has become more of a healthy one (especially since bonfire, where the Longhorns responded with great class and poise). Aggies have much more respect for Texas than for Tech. Make no mistake, we HATE Tech.
Rachel's Response
Interesting points. By the way, I don't think Chris Harrington's comment meant he considered the rivalry healthy in a "We want to beat our rival but have great respect for them" kind of way. I think he was just saying that it's a big rivalry.


Dale G. writes:

You forgot one thing about whether or not A&M considers it a rivalry. If it's not a rivalry, how come A&M is charging $83 a ticket for the game when the rest of their ho-hum games are $45?
Rachel's Response
Well, the Oklahoma and Nebraska games are also $83. Missouri is $73. The nonconference games were less expensive but I don't have the exact figures in front of me. But clearly the pricing structure indicates that this is a game for which there is a high demand among A&M fans.

[lonny23]

That sounds like it comes from a man that has been there done that!

By the way Does anybody know what dried cow@h$t sounds like it when it hits barbed wire?
Yeah, he was in 6 years. I'll give you a little more insight. We have Guard and Reserve personnel in this country and they do a good job (Sometimes). There are some who are full-time, but most are part-time (2 weeks and 1 weekend a month) unless they get called up. They aren't the same as the guys who do it EVERYDAY, but what always chaps me is the big deal that gets made about Guard and Reserve people deploying or returning from overseas. How about the active duty who deploy or come back? I say it's all a media ploy to keep Guard and Reserve numbers up and not true reporting of those who sacrifice their time and lives every day.

On the A&M issue, as much as they perform military maneuvers and drills, those guys aren't in the military and their lives aren't at risk where they have a target on their backs. I know some will one day join and their time at A&M can help, but there is no such thing as being military unless YOU ARE MILITARY. Guard and Reserve are HALF MILITARY. I know we need them and I'm glad they want to serve, but they don't come without a price. They don't keep current on training and they don't usually meet the grade in dress and appearance and customs and courtesies. Many times integrating Guard and Reserve on a deployment is like wanting to play in the Super Bowl, but not practicing all year. It's real hard to be military if you're not military every day. I sincerely hope our Guard and Reserve personnel out there don't get mad at me. All I'm doing is stating what happens. It's true that Guard and Reserve personnel typically operate in the military at a skill and professionalism level several stripes below what's on their shoulders. That's not to bash you guys and I just want to stress how important it is for you guys to give the military 100% on your weekends. Many want to go to the BX and goof off when they have drill weekends. That leaves you unprepared for deployments. Many Guard and Reserve personnel make active duty mad when we have to work together because you don't have knowledge commensurate with your rank and sometimes you're put in charge because of your rank. I fully understand you don't have the time and experience us active duty have, and that's why I stress so much for you guys to be proactive and learn with all your effort so you can jump on the train ride and not get left behind.

[farmerfan]

Yeah, he was in 6 years. I'll give you a little more insight. We have Guard and Reserve personnel in this country and they do a good job (Sometimes). There are some who are full-time, but most are part-time (2 weeks and 1 weekend a month) unless they get called up. They aren't the same as the guys who do it EVERYDAY, but what always chaps me is the big deal that gets made about Guard and Reserve people deploying or returning from overseas. How about the active duty who deploy or come back? I say it's all a media ploy to keep Guard and Reserve numbers up and not true reporting of those who sacrifice their time and lives every day.

On the A&M issue, as much as they perform military maneuvers and drills, those guys aren't in the military and their lives aren't at risk where they have a target on their backs. I know some will one day join and their time at A&M can help, but there is no such thing as being military unless YOU ARE MILITARY. Guard and Reserve are HALF MILITARY. I know we need them and I'm glad they want to serve, but they don't come without a price. They don't keep current on training and they don't usually meet the grade in dress and appearance and customs and courtesies. Many times integrating Guard and Reserve on a deployment is like wanting to play in the Super Bowl, but not practicing all year. It's real hard to be military if you're not military every day. I sincerely hope our Guard and Reserve personnel out there don't get mad at me. All I'm doing is stating what happens. It's true that Guard and Reserve personnel typically operate in the military at a skill and professionalism level several stripes below what's on their shoulders. That's not to bash you guys and I just want to stress how important it is for you guys to give the military 100% on your weekends. Many want to go to the BX and goof off when they have drill weekends. That leaves you unprepared for deployments. Many Guard and Reserve personnel make active duty mad when we have to work together because you don't have knowledge commensurate with your rank and sometimes you're put in charge because of your rank. I fully understand you don't have the time and experience us active duty have, and that's why I stress so much for you guys to be proactive and learn with all your effort so you can jump on the train ride and not get left behind.


wow
dont even know how to respond to that. my brother is in the guard and has been on two deployments in Iraq. But I guess since he has been shot at he is not real military since he only does it on weekends while maintaing a job and family :rolleyes:

[lonny23]

UTEP was a far saltier opponent than any the Aggies squared up against this year. They are coming off a bowl season and expected to factor in to thier conference race. It was a good experience for the Raiders to play a close game in a hostile environment (the Sun Bowl was rocking for that game).

I will give you that this could end up a closer contest than some are expecting. We'll see whether Leach has got the pirate ship back into ship-shape condition. If Harrell gets protection and the recievers are catching passes, it's gonna be a long day for the Aggies. If we see another TCU-like effort, then Tech leaves College Station with 2 losses. I think Leach has them ready to play.
I think TCU was all about lack of preparation. Tech will be ready for A&M.

[lonny23]

The only impressive win Tech has so far is wait, none. They beat SMU who was defeated by UNT the following week, they beat UTEP by 3 and a D1AA team last week. Everyone knocks the A&M schedule and ask whothey have beaten, well tell me who has Tech beat that was so impressive? This game will be very close, much like the 2002 and 2004 games. I also think with this game being so early in the season it benefits the Ags a whole lot. Tech and A&M usually play later in the season when the TEch offense is gelling, right now they are far from that.
I could use Massey or any number of power ratings, but I think I'll use Sagarin to make my point. I don't know what he'll say, but I bet he makes my point about the schedules:

SMU @ home 63.12
UTEP on the road 66.50
TCU on the road 84.16
SE Lousyanna @ home 45.24

64.76 strength of schedule for Tech.

The Citadel @ home 41.52
Lousyanna-Lafayette @ home 57.78
Army basically @ home 64.16
Lousyanna Tech @ home 61.15

53.09 strength of schedule for A&M.

Tech is playing better teams on the road than A&M is playing at home.

[lonny23]

wow
dont even know how to respond to that. my brother is in the guard and has been on two deployments in Iraq. But I guess since he has been shot at he is not real military since he only does it on weekends while maintaing a job and family :rolleyes:
I didn't say they don't make sacrifices and when you put the suit on you're a target. I said they don't take it as serious as they should or need to. It's not all of them, but it's a lot of them. I appreciate guys going on deployments, but you owe it to your fellow man to give this stuff all you can when you're called up. That doesn't happen enough. It's not like I think all active duty people are great. We have our dirtbags and those who need a new vocation.

[farmerfan]

I could use Massey or any number of power ratings, but I think I'll use Sagarin to make my point. I don't know what he'll say, but I bet he makes my point about the schedules:

SMU @ home 63.12 (35-3)
UTEP on the road 66.50 (38-35)
TCU on the road 84.16 (3-13)
SE Lousyanna @ home 45.24 (62-0)

64.76 strength of schedule for Tech.

The Citadel @ home 41.52
Lousyanna-Lafayette @ home 57.78
Army basically @ home 64.16
Lousyanna Tech @ home 61.15

53.09 strength of schedule for A&M.

Tech is playing better teams on the road than A&M is playing at home.

and Tech has struggled on the road. Kyle Field is tougher than the Sun Bowl and Amon Carter, the Ags are better than UTEP and not far behind TCU. Last time Tech brought a young inexperienced QB into College Station is did not turn out well for the raiders. This is a competitve rivalry when played in college station and right now Tech has not done anything to show they are much better than A&M.

[lonny23]

and Tech has struggled on the road. Kyle Field is tougher than the Sun Bowl and Amon Carter, the Ags are better than UTEP and not far behind TCU. Last time Tech brought a young inexperienced QB into College Station is did not turn out well for the raiders. This is a competitve rivalry when played in college station and right now Tech has not done anything to show they are much better than A&M.
I won't deny they played bad on the road. I really think they lollygagged the first 3 games. That theory will be proven right or wrong this week. If Tech pounds A&M, you'll know they just weren't playing early in September. If A&M wins, Tech is prone to some more losses.

[farmerfan]

I didn't say they don't make sacrifices and when you put the suit on you're a target. I said they don't take it as serious as they should or need to. It's not all of them, but it's a lot of them. I appreciate guys going on deployments, but you owe it to your fellow man to give this stuff all you can when you're called up. That doesn't happen enough. It's not like I think all active duty people are great. We have our dirtbags and those who need a new vocation.

You just made it out like thye are only half military, when they are called up and deployed they are real military just like the active duty guys, the Guard is a vital part of our military just like they were for Frederick the Great during the 7 years war, just like they were for Bismarck during the Franco/Prussian war of 1870 and just like they were for David Lloyd George during World War 1. The Guard and Reserve is is more beneficial to our military than not and you just made it seem like they aren't. I'm not in the military and would not comment on the way our men and women perform, I just know my brother and his unit and a former co-worker of mine all have given nothing but their all when called up and your last comments were a spit in the face to me.

[farmerfan]

I won't deny they played bad on the road. I really think they lollygagged the first 3 games. That theory will be proven right or wrong this week. If Tech pounds A&M, you'll know they just weren't playing early in September. If A&M wins, Tech is prone to some more losses.

You cant use it as a lollygaging excuse in my mind. The close loss at UTEP should have been a wake up call before TCU, they won a close one and should have known better than to go into TCU and slack around. I think their are more problems than not and it might start with losing Henderson at RB, right now it just looks like this Tech offense is struggling more than they ever have through the first month of the season and they are about to endure the most hostile environment they will encounter all year. I hope I am wrong so I can give my best friend a hard time, but I just have to go with my gut right now.

[lonny23]

You just made it out like thye are only half military, when they are called up and deployed they are real military just like the active duty guys, the Guard is a vital part of our military just like they were for Frederick the Great during the 7 years war, just like they were for Bismarck during the Franco/Prussian war of 1870 and just like they were for David Lloyd George during World War 1. The Guard and Reserve is is more beneficial to our military than not and you just made it seem like they aren't. I'm not in the military and would not comment on the way our men and women perform, I just know my brother and his unit and a former co-worker of mine all have given nothing but their all when called up and your last comments were a spit in the face to me.
My comments were tied into the discussion about the Corps. They dress up and it's play. Obviously the Guard and Reserve are real, but they don't do it all the time. It's like being on a team and having starters and backups. You need both and my whole point from the start was that we don't get the effort from enough Guard and Reserve that we need. I'm thankful for those who want to serve, but many who deploy don't want to do it and quite a few just view their time in as a good way to get a little extra money. To be fair, I'll blast the active duty military who just want a paycheck, too.

[lonny23]

You cant use it as a lollygaging excuse in my mind. The close loss at UTEP should have been a wake up call before TCU, they won a close one and should have known better than to go into TCU and slack around. I think their are more problems than not and it might start with losing Henderson at RB, right now it just looks like this Tech offense is struggling more than they ever have through the first month of the season and they are about to endure the most hostile environment they will encounter all year. I hope I am wrong so I can give my best friend a hard time, but I just have to go with my gut right now.
People thought losing TH would hurt, but I can't say that yet. They're getting good running out of Woods, but I'll have to watch on Saturday to see how well he's blocking.

Yes, UTEP should've been a wakeup call. It wasn't.

[farmerfan]

My comments were tied into the discussion about the Corps. They dress up and it's play. Obviously the Guard and Reserve are real, but they don't do it all the time. It's like being on a team and having starters and backups. You need both and my whole point from the start was that we don't get the effort from enough Guard and Reserve that we need. I'm thankful for those who want to serve, but many who deploy don't want to do it and quite a few just view their time in as a good way to get a little extra money. To be fair, I'll blast the active duty military who just want a paycheck, too.

Well you didnt come accross that way at all. Im sure no one wants to be over in Iraq right now and im sure there is plenty of dissension as well, however to compare the Corps of Cadets to the national guard or the reserves is far from accurate. You have bad apples in every bunch rather it be active, guard or reserve but to come out like you did and say they arent real military is a poor taste of judgment in my mind. If you feel that way that is fine but there was no need for that on a public forum.

[farmerfan]

People thought losing TH would hurt, but I can't say that yet. They're getting good running out of Woods, but I'll have to watch on Saturday to see how well he's blocking.

Yes, UTEP should've been a wakeup call. It wasn't.

Where losing Henderson is hurting is how vital he was out of the backfield catching passes. His contribution in the passing game was as good as you can get from the RB posistion. I dont think they have gotten that yet from the other backs, Henderson was a big element of that offense the last three years and I think it will be exposed how much he is missed during conference play.
Like I said I hope I am wrong, I like Tech and I like Leach and I want to give my best friend a hard time saturday night who received his undergrad and masters from A&M, but my gut tells me otherwise. Hopefully I prove once again to be wrong.

[lonny23]

Well you didnt come accross that way at all. Im sure no one wants to be over in Iraq right now and im sure there is plenty of dissension as well, however to compare the Corps of Cadets to the national guard or the reserves is far from accurate. You have bad apples in every bunch rather it be active, guard or reserve but to come out like you did and say they arent real military is a poor taste of judgment in my mind. If you feel that way that is fine but there was no need for that on a public forum.
Wide said the military doesn't look at the Corps as military. I chimed in to say that's true and furthermore the part-timers don't get credit either. Personally, I give the part-timers more credit than the vast majority of the people do and I have empathy for them (Won't know the job as well because they don't reinforce their knowledge every day). Since I was on the topic, I decided to talk about professionalism. The lack of professionalism by the part-timers is reason #1 why they don't get as much respect. I chose the public forum to make my statement because the public needs to know that. The military is serious business and we all have to be that way whether we're full-time or part-time. I could either be quiet and let there be animosity from here on out or I could say something and speak to why there is a problem. We have to maintain weight, fitness and appearance standards. How do you think people feel when somebody else comes along and doesn't do it, but they're going to be a part of us. Many times, you can tell a part-timer because their uniform and haircuts aren't within standards. Dude, this is just like a football team where somebody comes along and wants to play, but never shows up for practice. You don't feel good about people sharing in the rewards and benefits without the preparation. I know they don't do the stuff every day. All I'm saying is that too many people aren't mentally prepared to jump from civilian life to military life. When you put on the uniform, you have new values and rules. Too many don't transition well enough. When I get out of the Air Force and get a new job, I have to adapt to my new surroundings. I might work on an Air Force base and I know how that runs, but if I work for the Army, I play by their rules. If I work someplace where suits and ties are required, I have to get with the program. Too many people don't get with the program when they get called up. At the same time, I've met some awesome people. There are people out there who will deploy every year and they love to serve. I love being with those people.

I'm real cut and dried. If you have the uniform on, serve with excellence. Do it until the day you get out. If you don't want to do that, I don't want you around because my livelihood depends on you.

[lonny23]

Where losing Henderson is hurting is how vital he was out of the backfield catching passes. His contribution in the passing game was as good as you can get from the RB posistion. I dont think they have gotten that yet from the other backs, Henderson was a big element of that offense the last three years and I think it will be exposed how much he is missed during conference play.
Like I said I hope I am wrong, I like Tech and I like Leach and I want to give my best friend a hard time saturday night who received his undergrad and masters from A&M, but my gut tells me otherwise. Hopefully I prove once again to be wrong.
Woods is catching 2 less yards a recption than TH last year. The difference in catches has gone from 5.5 to 4.5 . It's a dropoff, but it's not face of the earth dropoff.

[farmerfan]

Wide said the military doesn't look at the Corps as military. I chimed in to say that's true and furthermore the part-timers don't get credit either. Personally, I give the part-timers more credit than the vast majority of the people do and I have empathy for them (Won't know the job as well because they don't reinforce their knowledge every day). Since I was on the topic, I decided to talk about professionalism. The lack of professionalism by the part-timers is reason #1 why they don't get as much respect. I chose the public forum to make my statement because the public needs to know that. The military is serious business and we all have to be that way whether we're full-time or part-time. I could either be quiet and let there be animosity from here on out or I could say something and speak to why there is a problem. We have to maintain weight, fitness and appearance standards. How do you think people feel when somebody else comes along and doesn't do it, but they're going to be a part of us. Many times, you can tell a part-timer because their uniform and haircuts aren't within standards. Dude, this is just like a football team where somebody comes along and wants to play, but never shows up for practice. You don't feel good about people sharing in the rewards and benefits without the preparation. I know they don't do the stuff every day. All I'm saying is that too many people aren't mentally prepared to jump from civilian life to military life. When you put on the uniform, you have new values and rules. Too many don't transition well enough. When I get out of the Air Force and get a new job, I have to adapt to my new surroundings. I might work on an Air Force base and I know how that runs, but if I work for the Army, I play by their rules. If I work someplace where suits and ties are required, I have to get with the program. Too many people don't get with the program when they get called up. At the same time, I've met some awesome people. There are people out there who will deploy every year and they love to serve. I love being with those people.

I'm real cut and dried. If you have the uniform on, serve with excellence. Do it until the day you get out. If you don't want to do that, I don't want you around because my livelihood depends on you.

You know though Lonny people could have thought the same thing about you and your deployment last year. You are real cut and dry let me be real cut in dry, you spent a lot of time on the computer posting, you never saw fire or were in a dangerous situation, it doesnt take away from your sacrifice just like the guard who are in the line of fire just because they are weekend warriors does not in second take away from their sacrifice and duty they give to this country. It is absurd to compare the corps of cadets to the national guard, the guard stand in the line of fire, the guard repair helicopters, the gurad provide medical care the guard flies planes the guard does everything a active duty solider does when they are called to do so and you said they werent real military. Who and what gives you that right? The problem people have with you at times on this board is the words you use, when you say men who have sacrificed their lives for this country did so as fake soldiers thats going to strike a nerve with a lot of people and I for one am offended. I am glad my brother has had two safe tours, but I know their are guardsmen who have not been so fortunate and have given the ultimate sacrifice, by saying they are fake military that just aint right.

[DragonBand06]

Wide said the military doesn't look at the Corps as military. I chimed in to say that's true and furthermore the part-timers don't get credit either. Personally, I give the part-timers more credit than the vast majority of the people do and I have empathy for them (Won't know the job as well because they don't reinforce their knowledge every day). Since I was on the topic, I decided to talk about professionalism. The lack of professionalism by the part-timers is reason #1 why they don't get as much respect. I chose the public forum to make my statement because the public needs to know that. The military is serious business and we all have to be that way whether we're full-time or part-time. I could either be quiet and let there be animosity from here on out or I could say something and speak to why there is a problem. We have to maintain weight, fitness and appearance standards. How do you think people feel when somebody else comes along and doesn't do it, but they're going to be a part of us. Many times, you can tell a part-timer because their uniform and haircuts aren't within standards. Dude, this is just like a football team where somebody comes along and wants to play, but never shows up for practice. You don't feel good about people sharing in the rewards and benefits without the preparation. I know they don't do the stuff every day. All I'm saying is that too many people aren't mentally prepared to jump from civilian life to military life. When you put on the uniform, you have new values and rules. Too many don't transition well enough. When I get out of the Air Force and get a new job, I have to adapt to my new surroundings. I might work on an Air Force base and I know how that runs, but if I work for the Army, I play by their rules. If I work someplace where suits and ties are required, I have to get with the program. Too many people don't get with the program when they get called up. At the same time, I've met some awesome people. There are people out there who will deploy every year and they love to serve. I love being with those people.

I'm real cut and dried. If you have the uniform on, serve with excellence. Do it until the day you get out. If you don't want to do that, I don't want you around because my livelihood depends on you.
I agree that the Corps is not by any means real military, however, in my opinion it is one of the best preparations for the military(if you go in) behind the Armed Forces Academies... but, that's a somewhat biased opinion from someone with limited knowledge of military-esque programs in college out there.

[lonny23]

You know though Lonny people could have thought the same thing about you and your deployment last year. You are real cut and dry let me be real cut in dry, you spent a lot of time on the computer posting, you never saw fire or were in a dangerous situation, it doesnt take away from your sacrifice just like the guard who are in the line of fire just because they are weekend warriors does not in second take away from their sacrifice and duty they give to this country. It is absurd to compare the corps of cadets to the national guard, the guard stand in the line of fire, the guard repair helicopters, the gurad provide medical care the guard flies planes the guard does everything a active duty solider does when they are called to do so and you said they werent real military. Who and what gives you that right? The problem people have with you at times on this board is the words you use, when you say men who have sacrificed their lives for this country did so as fake soldiers thats going to strike a nerve with a lot of people and I for one am offended. I am glad my brother has had two safe tours, but I know their are guardsmen who have not been so fortunate and have given the ultimate sacrifice, by saying they are fake military that just aint right.I didn't say they were fake. I shouldn't have said they were half-military. They're whole military even as part-timers. Too many act like they're half-military, though. The war zone is no place for anybody to worry about going back home or their other job. I say the same thing about active duty people. When you're deployed, that should be your focus. I'm serious about this stuff. I do work at night even during periods when I'm posting on the board. I check in here and there, but I never leave work until I do everything I need to take care of.

On the deployment topic, I was doing most of the posting after duty hours. We couldn't go off base. There are 24 hours in a day and we didn't work all 24. I posted a lot and slept little. Since I hung out at the workplace, I was available for duty pretty much 24 hours a day and did a lot of work in the middle of the night because emergencies would come up. What you guys didn't see was I'd be on this board posting and then have a guy coming in no-notice needing a flight back to the U.S. because somebody died or was in the hospital. There was no such thing as "We're closed. Come back tomorrow." My scheduled duty was during the day, but I would be at the airport trying to get people out at 2, 3, and 4 in the morning. Even right now, I need to go to bed in a little while because I have to be back on base at 2 to work.

As far as danger goes, I don't think last year was as dangerous as the 2 years before. I could've been on the front line, but I'm qualified to do other jobs, too. I would do well on the front line, but I didn't want to do that. Without me, nobody ever goes home from a deployment, they have to walk everywhere because they won't have vehicles or parts, and they'd all die because they wouldn't have weapons or ammo.

[lonny23]

I agree that the Corps is not by any means real military, however, in my opinion it is one of the best preparations for the military(if you go in) behind the Armed Forces Academies... but, that's a somewhat biased opinion from someone with limited knowledge of military-esque programs in college out there.
I agree it's one of the best to prepare you for the military. VMI and The Citadel also do a good job.

[lonny23]

Farmer,

It was never my intention to demean the dedication of your brother. I'm in no position to discredit his time in the military.

Really all I can say about the topic is that there is a difference between having a job and doing it well. Nobody should be praised or rewarded on the basis of their job. Nobody in the military deserves praise for just serving. Most people who never served in the military don't get the military. Many who have served still don't get the military. I'll give the typical reaction of the public and the military reaction:

Public- "Boy, it's great how so and so is in the Guard or Reserve and is deploying to Iraq." That's an almost 100 percent reaction. Much of the public also throws the efforts of active duty under the carpet because we do it everyday. I know many appreciate what we do, but the time of the Guard and Reserve is more celebrated than our time.

Military- "These guys are overweight, their uniforms look bad, they need a haircut, and they don't know anything about the job." "How can this guy be a Master Sergeant, etc.?" "The Guard and Reserve do things differently."

I want to be a uniter. I defend the Guard and Reserve to a degree when speaking with the people who work for me. I can only go so far. I can't defend people who don't look like us because the standards aren't important to them. I can't defend people who lack the management skills needed in the Armed Forces. I can defend a lack of some knowledge, but I can't defend a person who has an attitude that doesn't exude professionalism. The fact that somebody doesn't serve every day shouldn't be a knock on them, but it is with many people. I try to erase that perception. The biggest factor in active duty-Guard/Reserve disagreement is the attitudes of the part-timers and the ensuing double-standard of 2 sets of rules. You know there is something wrong when I can look at a person and know they're a part-timer just because of how they look and act. We're supposed to be one lean, mean fighting machine. Active duty people hate the Guard and Reserves because many look and act like they don't care. That's not a knock on all part-timers, but there are enough like I said that it casts a bad shadow on the whole bunch.

[slorch]

lol...we have a cannon...and a couple thousand infantry... *evil grin*
those are toy sodiers my friend, don't actually count on them to fight!

[slorch]

I agree. The thing that I think upsets me the most is simply peoples' lack of knowledge when they judge. I also think it's disappointing that you don't have to join the military, but what most people don't understand is that even if they are wannabe soldiers, they are very dedicated to what they do, they are very disciplined, and it's not just a weekend dress-up game. However, I totally see your point of view too.

On a lighter note, I was thinking we get the corps and go tractor-tipping...:D
I'm very disciplined and dedicated to X-Box- does that make me a hero?

[slorch]

The only impressive win Tech has so far is wait, none. They beat SMU who was defeated by UNT the following week, they beat UTEP by 3 and a D1AA team last week. Everyone knocks the A&M schedule and ask whothey have beaten, well tell me who has Tech beat that was so impressive? This game will be very close, much like the 2002 and 2004 games. I also think with this game being so early in the season it benefits the Ags a whole lot. Tech and A&M usually play later in the season when the TEch offense is gelling, right now they are far from that.
I would say a win this week would be equally unimpressive.

[slorch]

nm

[slorch]

nm

[Owls06]

I'm sorry guys, but if ya'll want to discuss the Corps and whether or not you think they're army or whatever.. can ya'll do that in Offtopic or somewhere else? This is for football, and I really don't like having to skim your gigantic posts to check to see if any fball is in it.

[slorch]

sorry man.

[farmerfan]

I would say a win this week would be equally unimpressive.

Well this unimpressive win will be the most difficult for the raiders to obtain this year. The track record of this rivalry says so. Games in College Station = nail biters, games in Lubbock = Mike Leach talking about Black Beard while crusing to a easy victory over the aggies. I agree in that a win over the ags is nothing to brag about, however it wont be easy for Tech to do so this week.

[DragonBand06]

Well this unimpressive win will be the most difficult for the raiders to obtain this year. The track record of this rivalry says so. Games in College Station = nail biters, games in Lubbock = Mike Leach talking about Black Beard while crusing to a easy victory over the aggies. I agree in that a win over the ags is nothing to brag about, however it wont be easy for Tech to do so this week.
Arrrrr! Sept 19 was "National Talk Like a Pirate Day." I celebrated it. Thanks, that's all.

[mad_fan]

Farmer,

It was never my intention to demean the dedication of your brother. I'm in no position to discredit his time in the military.

Really all I can say about the topic is that there is a difference between having a job and doing it well. Nobody should be praised or rewarded on the basis of their job. Nobody in the military deserves praise for just serving. Most people who never served in the military don't get the military. Many who have served still don't get the military. I'll give the typical reaction of the public and the military reaction:

Public- "Boy, it's great how so and so is in the Guard or Reserve and is deploying to Iraq." That's an almost 100 percent reaction. Much of the public also throws the efforts of active duty under the carpet because we do it everyday. I know many appreciate what we do, but the time of the Guard and Reserve is more celebrated than our time.

Military- "These guys are overweight, their uniforms look bad, they need a haircut, and they don't know anything about the job." "How can this guy be a Master Sergeant, etc.?" "The Guard and Reserve do things differently."

I want to be a uniter. I defend the Guard and Reserve to a degree when speaking with the people who work for me. I can only go so far. I can't defend people who don't look like us because the standards aren't important to them. I can't defend people who lack the management skills needed in the Armed Forces. I can defend a lack of some knowledge, but I can't defend a person who has an attitude that doesn't exude professionalism. The fact that somebody doesn't serve every day shouldn't be a knock on them, but it is with many people. I try to erase that perception. The biggest factor in active duty-Guard/Reserve disagreement is the attitudes of the part-timers and the ensuing double-standard of 2 sets of rules. You know there is something wrong when I can look at a person and know they're a part-timer just because of how they look and act. We're supposed to be one lean, mean fighting machine. Active duty people hate the Guard and Reserves because many look and act like they don't care. That's not a knock on all part-timers, but there are enough like I said that it casts a bad shadow on the whole bunch.


So you're doing here...what GW's doing in DC...:p

[lonny23]

So you're doing here...what GW's doing in DC...:p
It's a sensitive subject. I'd rather talk about it than just let bad feelings fester.

[hebronhawk52]

I think the aggies win 35-28 just because the 12th man tech never plays good a Kyle Field

[slorch]

I think the aggies win 35-28 just because the 12th man tech never plays good a Kyle Field
never is a long time unless you're aggy

open a book and read about the last 10 years, you might detect a trend...

[lonny23]

never is a long time unless you're aggy

open a book and read about the last 10 years, you might detect a trend...
Most of the last 17 years had A&M as a better team than Tech. I don't care about the location. Who is the better team matters more. I'll put the A&M record in parentheses

in Aggieland

2004 (7-5) 32-25 (OT) A&M
2002 (6-6) 48-47 (OT) Tech
2000 (7-5) 33-15 A&M
1998 (11-3) 17-10 A&M
1996 (6-6) 13-10 Tech!:p
1994 (10-0-1) 23-17 A&M
1992 (12-1) 19-17 A&M
1990 (9-3-1) 28-24 A&M

in Tortilla Heaven

2005 (5-6) 56-17 Tech
2003 (4-8) 59-28 Tech
2001 (8-4) 12-0 Tech
1999 (8-4) 21-19 Tech
1997 (9-4) 16-13 Tech
1995 (9-3) 14-7 Tech!:p
1993 (10-2) 31-6 A&M
1991 (10-2) 37-14 A&M
1989 (8-4) 27-24 Tech

The trend says Tech is 9-8 in the last 17 years. They are 8-3 since 1995, though.

[DragonBand06]

Most of the last 17 years had A&M as a better team than Tech. I don't care about the location. Who is the better team matters more. I'll put the A&M record in parentheses

in Aggieland

2004 (7-5) 32-25 (OT) A&M
2002 (6-6) 48-47 (OT) Tech
2000 (7-5) 33-15 A&M
1998 (11-3) 17-10 A&M
1996 (6-6) 13-10 Tech!:p
1994 (10-0-1) 23-17 A&M
1992 (12-1) 19-17 A&M
1990 (9-3-1) 28-24 A&M

in Tortilla Heaven

2005 (5-6) 56-17 Tech
2003 (4-8) 59-28 Tech
2001 (8-4) 12-0 Tech
1999 (8-4) 21-19 Tech
1997 (9-4) 16-13 Tech
1995 (9-3) 14-7 Tech!:p
1993 (10-2) 31-6 A&M
1991 (10-2) 37-14 A&M
1989 (8-4) 27-24 Tech

The trend says Tech is 9-8 in the last 17 years. They are 8-3 since 1995, though.
(Over 17 seasons)
The way I see it is when A&M is .500 or better on the season, and the game is at Kyle, either they win or the win differential is 7 or less. At the tortilla factory :p, if A&M is .500 or better on the season, either A&M wins or the score is decided by 14 or less.
Note that the only two Tech wins at Kyle(last 8 games at Kyle, of course) were 6-6 seasons for the Aggies.

[slorch]

Hope everyone enjoys the game today- it looks like it's gonna be relatively hot there. Raiders better get on it early and make the aggies pass too. I think that's the only way we win, because the aggy run game has been clicking.

Raider D keep it up! Air Raid- bombs away on the milkmen!

Go Tech!

Beat the hell out of the aggies!

[DragonBand06]

Hope everyone enjoys the game today- it looks like it's gonna be relatively hot there. Raiders better get on it early and make the aggies pass too. I think that's the only way we win, because the aggy run game has been clicking.

Raider D keep it up! Air Raid- bombs away on the milkmen!

Go Tech!

Beat the hell out of the aggies!
OK, first of all, that's OUR line!:D
Second of all - funny anecdote - I was at midnight yell last night and there were some red raiders there, in the stands. Every time we would do yell practice, they would "put their guns up" and start cheering. Even during the Spirit and War Hymn, they kept it up. (Plus the guy wouldn't uncover when asked to)
Here's my question: What the hell are you doing at Midnight yell practice? You're not going to be doing yells! And if you're just coming to see the pre-game rituals, please be nice about it. As I walked out of the stadium I thought to myself "They're lucky they didn't get mobbed.":D

[AZTiger]

(Plus the guy wouldn't uncover when asked to)


If you are "one of those"...I hate you. By that I mean, if you're the tool who yells at people to uncover, I hope you die. :)

[BeauxGeezy]

We went over this last season.
Uncover is a military term...why in the hell would I let a non-military person tell me to take my cap off?
First off I'm no longer in the military and I don't have to take my cover off...(unless I'm at my Mama's dinner table and that's totally different subject)

My Dad went to the Texas/aggy game last year with my nephew. Now keep in mind my Dad is a salty Vietnam vet a-hole Marine.
Some corps guy told him to "uncover!!"
My Dad told him to go f... himself.

[Favpack]

With A&M enrollment growing and (finally) diversifying - you'd think there'd be more protests and stuff. I know pacifists that bleed maroon - and think all that crap is "cool". A total disconnect at CS to the outside world.

[AZTiger]

We went over this last season.
Uncover is a military term...why in the hell would I let a non-military person tell me to take my cap off?
First off I'm no longer in the military and I don't have to take my cover off...(unless I'm at my Mama's dinner table and that's totally different subject)

My Dad went to the Texas/aggy game last year with my nephew. Now keep in mind my Dad is a salty Vietnam vet a-hole Marine.
Some corps guy told him to "uncover!!"
My Dad told him to go f... himself.


Good for your father!

I hate douches like that at A&M games. Apparently, so do a lot of Aggies.

[dada]

Aggies....where is the "D"?

[Mad Hatter]

want some entertainment wander over to Texags and read the game thread lol.

[#1DawgFan]

The one good thing about this game is it will probably finally put the nail in Frans coffin and maybe we can find a football coach:rolleyes:


FIRE FRAN NOW!!!!!!!!

[BeauxGeezy]

for what it's worth...
The fumble at the goal line was a bs call. Should have been a touchdown.
And the aggy defense is terrible...what else is new?

[#1DawgFan]

for what it's worth...
The fumble at the goal line was a bs call. Should have been a touchdown.
And the aggy defense is terrible...what else is new?


stupid play to hold the ball out in front of you near the goal line

[BeauxGeezy]

stupid play to hold the ball out in front of you near the goal line


Surely you can't be serious???
Name another place on the field where it is common to see a player hold the ball out in front of him?
He broke the plain....touchdown...doesn't matter what happens after the ball crosses.

[LeanderLions3033]

Dear Gary _arnell,
When you give the texas tech offense all day to throw, and your secondary is already terrible you will not be successful. I know you may feel the need to be conservative but as a UT fan that personally wants Fran to stay, WILL YOU BRING THE BLITZ FOR ME ONE TIME?

-LeanderLions3033-

[BeauxGeezy]

a letter from _arnell

Dear Leander,

What is this blitz thing you speak of?? Never heard of it. Whoop!

[rancher52]

So was that the right call letting Tech down the ball at the one when his feet were on the goal line? A&M did not argue much. Is it just where the ball is??

[BeauxGeezy]

So was that the right call letting Tech down the ball at the one when his feet were on the goal line? A&M did not argue much. Is it just where the ball is??


nope
He was obviously on the goal line...bad call.

That boy from Lufkin,Tx ain't no punk though...I'll say that.

[BeauxGeezy]

Two years ago...Javorskie scores on that play.
40 pounds later...he gets dropped.

[#1DawgFan]

Surely you can't be serious???
Name another place on the field where it is common to see a player hold the ball out in front of him?
He broke the plain....touchdown...doesn't matter what happens after the ball crosses.

didn't see it cross the goal line. still a stupid play because that very thing can happen, so yes I am serious about it being a stupid play.

[BeauxGeezy]

didn't see it cross the goal line. still a stupid play because that very thing can happen, so yes I am serious about it being a stupid play.


That is common practice dude. If you are trying to get into the end zone...you stick the ball out and try to cross the line.
If he HAD NOT stuck the ball out...then that would have been a stupid play.

[BeauxGeezy]

Hell no...
that ball hit the ground twice

[Sacred Ground]

Whats the odds of this one going OT for a third consecutive time at Kyle field?

[Sacred Ground]

Whats the odds of this one going OT for a third consecutive time at Kyle field?


Forget that! TD Tech! Shock settles in over Kyle Field!

[BeauxGeezy]

standby for moral victory reports.
Poooooooooooooooor aggy.

[AllenEagle06]

Whats the odds of this one going OT for a third consecutive time at Kyle field?
Not unless A&M scores 2 safeties in the next 30 seconds.

[Favpack]

Great game between two mediocre teams. Hats off to Aggie (sorry, uncover to Aggie) - a true moral victory - wow. I really thought those insane replay refs were gonna hand the game to A&M at the end there.

Gotta love TT's coach postgame comments. He's in a different world. Neither of these teams make much noise in the south this year.

[CLFalcon2006]

I did see the replays of Dodge's "interception" and the TT guys catch and the following TD, so they were legit (until you actually get to see the replay, I was thinking we had just gotten screwed royally).

However this isnt a bout moral victories, this is about coach Fran's decison to keep clling plays that left McGee clueless and lost. This is about Fran running down the clock and kicking a field goal and hoping his overrated D can stop one of the best offenses in the game today.

Put Reville in charge, put McGee in charge, put the slightly chewed up pencil lying on my desk in charge. He is done, whatever magic he had at those other colleges just isnt going to happen here

at least Lake won...

[BeauxGeezy]

Fran running down the clock and kicking a field goal and hoping his overrated D

Who rated the aggy defense? Much less over-rated them?
Dude they were among the worst in the country last year...
They almost let ARMY beat them...ARMY......I say again for the stupid maroon faithful...ARMY...
Your team is horrible...Your coach is horrible...and you call Texas daddy. Be aggy and just...well...be aggy.

[Favpack]

I thought the dog was in charge?:confused: Doesn't he lead all those chants?

[BeauxGeezy]

I thought the dog was in charge?:confused: Doesn't he lead all those chants?



Communication problems...they were listening to the orders from the dead dogs...
It's understandable.

[#1DawgFan]

That is common practice dude. If you are trying to get into the end zone...you stick the ball out and try to cross the line.
If he HAD NOT stuck the ball out...then that would have been a stupid play.


no, a fumble was stupid:rolleyes: BTW I know its common practice, that doesn't make it smart. If he goes down they score on the next play in all reality,instead they get nothing and the other team has the ball.....stupid

[BeauxGeezy]

no, a fumble was stupid:rolleyes: BTW I know its common practice, that doesn't make it smart. If he goes down they score on the next play in all reality,instead they get nothing and the other team has the ball.....stupid


Tell you what brainiac...
Pose the question to the members of the board.
If your guy is at the 1...do you want him to reach out and try to score (which he did) or just lay down at the one????
Amazing ...
I'm debating football strategy with aggy...
That's like debating diet tips with Oprah.


There are a lot of things that I can just let go...
But saying that a guy shouldn't try to score???
You haven't been watching football long have you?

[#1DawgFan]

Tell you what brainiac...
Pose the question to the members of the board.
If your guy is at the 1...do you want him to reach out and try to score (which he did) or just lay down at the one????
Amazing ...
I'm debating football strategy with aggy...
That's like debating diet tips with Oprah.


There are a lot of things that I can just let go...
But saying that a guy shouldn't try to score???
You haven't been watching football long have you?

just the reply I expected. How many points did he score brainiac junior?......none did he fumble?.....yes
If your going to hold the ball out there you had better score or look like an idiot. All your cut downs really carry no weight with me. You might bully around some of the posters on here but you don't really impress me much. I can't wait for your next tirade:D

[BeauxGeezy]

just the reply I expected. How many points did he score brainiac junior?......none did he fumble?.....yes
If your going to hold the ball out there you had better score or look like an idiot. All your cut downs really carry no weight with me. You might bully around some of the posters on here but you don't really impress me much. I can't wait for your next tirade:D


pooor aggy.
2005 National Champions...
the winner and still...heavyweight champion of the wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorld.,...
wide-e- f'n wide baby.

scoreboard aggy.

BTW...the point was...the guy scored...the replay showed that he scored.
In the words of Bob Stoops "that's all water under the dam"
They still lost.
and they still suck.

[CLFalcon2006]

Who rated the aggy defense? Much less over-rated them?
Dude they were among the worst in the country last year...
They almost let ARMY beat them...ARMY......I say again for the stupid maroon faithful...ARMY...
Your team is horrible...Your coach is horrible...and you call Texas daddy. Be aggy and just...well...be aggy.

Defense- Though they were high in several categories (namely pass defense) this was obviously due to the lack of good opponents care of the easy 4 game schedule. Now that they have finally played a good team and let them pass all over them we can see that the defense was in fact over rated

Army- S**t happens, the point is they won. Eventually Texas will lose to a team or play terrible to a team they should destroy. You cant possibly expect to beat Rice every year from now until the end of the world

Your team is horrible- the talent is there, even though we played 4 bad teams, we still have 4 wins, and damn near beat arguably the 2nd best team in the Big 12

Your coach is horrible- no s**t

You call Texas daddy- no

And finally- Its Aggie, not aggy, you've been misspelling it for some time now and I don’t believe anyone ever told you, honest mistake

[Favpack]

Hey - again I give A&M credit - and I thought the fg at the end was good enough. I liked the playcalling in the end, but the final 3 plays were poorly, but Tech was reeling on D. They simply left too much time on the clock - but the prevent D? Mistake - huge mistake.

[BeauxGeezy]

Defense- Though they were high in several categories (namely pass defense) this was obviously due to the lack of good opponents care of the easy 4 game schedule. Now that they have finally played a good team and let them pass all over them we can see that the defense was in fact over rated

Army- S**t happens, the point is they won. Eventually Texas will lose to a team or play terrible to a team they should destroy. You cant possibly expect to beat Rice every year from now until the end of the world

Your team is horrible- the talent is there, even though we played 4 bad teams, we still have 4 wins, and damn near beat arguably the 2nd best team in the Big 12

Your coach is horrible- no s**t

You call Texas daddy- no

And finally- Its Aggie, not aggy, you've been misspelling it for some time now and I don’t believe anyone ever told you, honest mistake

Dear God,

Please forgive aggy for thinking that they are relevant. Please forgive them for thinking that they have a good defense. Please help them Lord with their obvious ***** envy...they need it.



welcome to the basement aggy have a seat.

The 2nd best team?/????
hahahahahha
you gotta be kidding me dude.

[BeauxGeezy]

he's still responding y'all...give him a minute.

[CLFalcon2006]

Dear God,

Please forgive aggy for thinking that they are relevant. Please forgive them for thinking that they have a good defense. Please help them Lord with their obvious ***** envy...they need it.



welcome to the basement aggy have a seat.

The 2nd best team?/????
hahahahahha
you gotta be kidding me dude.

***** envy????

Because I really want to be a hippie weirdo hanging out in corner coffee shop on the drag watching mtv desperatley try to keep what it percives to be a "hip" image by filming the real world Austin only to realize tht they left a while ago and the mentally deranged people (that reality shows and americas most wanted crave for) in front of me are just the "normal" people you see every day, you know dykish girls that look like they could beat their lord and savior Vince Young into a bloody pulp and have armpit hair that makes french women reel when they see it, as well as guys that wear berets and carry Louis Vitone man purses while going in and out of shops checking the prices for incense and hookah tobacco while all the while wondering when 4 in the morning will roll around so they he and his friends can pile into his vw bug and hit up the nearest taco bell but make sure they take the route by the clock tower so they can see it all lit up commemorating the 2005 national champions at everything (including football, gymnastics, art, basket weaving, coffee drinking, can opening, etc) Texas Longhorns mighty victory over Sam Houston State

oh and real quick, i believe that every university in the world is relevant because it is through them that we as the human race progress in technolgy, culture, science, everything. Whether it be Michael Dell building computers in his dorm at ut which would pave the way for one of the worlds great technology companies or be it professors at A&M that designed the green revolution which has revolutionized food production around the world and keeps you, your family, the members of this board, and billions of asians, africans, europeans, and americans fed on a dily basis

and as far as sports goes..
our defense isnt good
the 2nd best team i was refering to was Tech, not us
and were not in the basement, thats colorado and oklahoma state

trust me wide man, theres no ***** envy here

[BeauxGeezy]

it took you 30 minutes to come up with that?

pooor aggy.

I'm not a hippie dude. I'm from East Texas. I'm a Horns fan...of course aggy will tell you that all of Austin is filled with hippies and liberals...
what the hell does that have to do with the fact that your football team is inferior?
Give me a break man...that's the best that you can do?
I've been banned and brought back 6 times for a reason bro...remember that.

[CLFalcon2006]

I'm done, theres no reasoning with this. Apparently were just inferior and no matter what we say or proof we furnish it wont change that.

KT lock the thread, do what you want I dont care, just please dont ban me I dont plan on getting into this again. Since I'm inferior I probably wont get a free pass or 6 like Wide has. I'll just stick to the Falcons and non-argumental A&M threads (which apparetly are none these days).

I'm gonna go eat BBQ now, later

[BeauxGeezy]

whoop!

still waitin' on the proof....still waiting.
Little Debbies and meat judging doesn't count...

[dada]

whoop!

still waitin' on the proof....still waiting.
Little Debbies and meat judging doesn't count...
Hey Girl I think Franchonie's in trouble...I mean....he ran off and left a WHOLE BASKET of Lil Debbies....

ARF! ARF!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f128/dada4w/untitled-1.jpg

[BeauxGeezy]

What's that girl?
Little Frannie said the game was in the basket?...
NOooooooo...
Lil' Timmy is in the well....go get a rope???
Hold the rope little Timmy...hold the rope.

[#1DawgFan]

pooor aggy.
2005 National Champions...
the winner and still...heavyweight champion of the wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorld.,...
wide-e- f'n wide baby.

scoreboard aggy.

BTW...the point was...the guy scored...the replay showed that he scored.
In the words of Bob Stoops "that's all water under the dam"
They still lost.
and they still suck.

come on man, is that your best shot? I am disappointed. :rolleyes: I expected better but maybe my expectations were a bit high:o

[Favpack]

I always wondered how you judge meat without eating it. The mysteries of life....

[#1DawgFan]

I'm done, theres no reasoning with this. Apparently were just inferior and no matter what we say or proof we furnish it wont change that.

KT lock the thread, do what you want I dont care, just please dont ban me I dont plan on getting into this again. Since I'm inferior I probably wont get a free pass or 6 like Wide has. I'll just stick to the Falcons and non-argumental A&M threads (which apparetly are none these days).

I'm gonna go eat BBQ now, later

Why do you give a rip what he says, how many times has he been banned from here? It won't be long and he will be gone again. He can't help it. Its just a matter of time:D

[Mean DT]

I always wondered how you judge meat without eating it. The mysteries of life....
Coach Fran is history.:D :D :D

[BeauxGeezy]

You're right aggy...
Me saying National Champions isn't nearly enough proof...
But....I just happen to have conclusive proof that you and your beloved aggy are laughable.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/aggydumbasses.jpg



and yes...let's play pretend army and guard a freakin' dog....oh my sweet Jesus...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/aggyguard.jpg

now I can officially say scoreboard...and ummm...dogboard.
what a bunch of f'n weirdos.

[dada]

Why do you give a rip what he says, how many times has he been banned from here? It won't be long and he will be gone again. He can't help it. Its just a matter of time:D
OK,,we're just having fun...no need for anyone to get banned.

[BeauxGeezy]

In the spirit of my homeboy John "superbrat" McEnroe....
let me say
Game...........Set...............and Match for Mr. Wideman.

[Favpack]

Hey -- you remember the story from Dallas about 10 or so years ago. Day before Thanksgiving in Dallas - the puppy Revelle - is taken home to parents house by some Aggie in Dallas - he lets him out back to take a leak and two guys from Texas jump the fence of this guy's house - snatch the puppy without the guy knowing it and then call in a "ransom" note. It was quite funny -and awesome. How in the world they did that is beyond me - I was impressed.

Maybe that's why they started guarding that dang dog so tight.

[BeauxGeezy]

Hey -- you remember the story from Dallas about 10 or so years ago. Day before Thanksgiving in Dallas - the puppy Revelle - is taken home to parents house by some Aggie in Dallas - he lets him out back to take a leak and two guys from Texas jump the fence of this guy's house - snatch the puppy without the guy knowing it and then call in a "ransom" note. It was quite funny -and awesome. How in the world they did that is beyond me - I was impressed.

Maybe that's why they started guarding that dang dog so tight.


urban legend...never happened.
aggy (now listen aggy I'm gonna tell you about your own history)....they have guarded that ***** for years...and by years brother...I mean years...

Seriously....


The corps is the equivalent to a troop of Boy Scouts going to Iraq and telling the people's republic to respect them.
ain't gonna happen...not on my watch.

[farmerfan]

You're right aggy...
Me saying National Champions isn't nearly enough proof...
But....I just happen to have conclusive proof that you and your beloved aggy are laughable.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/aggydumbasses.jpg



and yes...let's play pretend army and guard a freakin' dog....oh my sweet Jesus...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/bogthekid/aggyguard.jpg

now I can officially say scoreboard...and ummm...dogboard.
what a bunch of f'n weirdos.

let me start by saying i was wrong in my prediction but i could care less.

let me also add to the above pictures posted, when did Jee-tah and gay-rod move to college station?

[#1DawgFan]

In the spirit of my homeboy John "superbrat" McEnroe....
let me say
Game...........Set...............and Match for Mr. Wideman.

a legend in your own mind LOL

You must really be popular at the trailer park dances:D

[BeauxGeezy]

So farmer...would I be correct in assuming that you think those pics are in fact quite gay (not that there is anything wrong with that)???

[Favpack]

urban legend...never happened.
aggy (now listen aggy I'm gonna tell you about your own history)....they have guarded that ***** for years...and by years brother...I mean years...

Seriously....


The corps is the equivalent to a troop of Boy Scouts going to Iraq and telling the people's republic to respect them.
ain't gonna happen...not on my watch.
W-B/G - I will promise you I read that story at my in-laws on Thanksgiving day in the DMNews - no joke. Now, if they called the urban myth in -- that would be quite funny too. If I were so inclined - I would research it, but I will tell you straight up I read it in the Dallas Morning News.

[BeauxGeezy]

for what it's worth my Lufkin brother...

the Dallas Morning News also reported that Oswald acted alone and was a communist from Russia....

[BeauxGeezy]

I post pictures of the truth...
aggy go away...
note to self...always post the truth.
How can you argue those pics? Seriously....argue those pics...make that go away....
ghey...gay...and el gayo....

[DragonBand06]

urban legend...never happened.
aggy (now listen aggy I'm gonna tell you about your own history)....they have guarded that ***** for years...and by years brother...I mean years...

Seriously....


The corps is the equivalent to a troop of Boy Scouts going to Iraq and telling the people's republic to respect them.
ain't gonna happen...not on my watch.
I'm sorry wide, but you just don't impress me. This board is full of A&M bashers. Anytime we win a game it's either "They weren't a good opponent" or "Oh yeah, well Texas beat so-and-so by this many points." What is your problem? Why do you find it so hard to just say "good job"? You know, it always seems to be non-Aggies who start this whole thing, and it just gets old. Honestly, I don't care anymore. Call us aggy. Talk about how we guard our mascot. Make fun of us for being able to meat judge and reference "moral victories" on a standard basis. But you know