View Full Version : Weldon Willig Stadium
forest99
09-20-2006, 10:53 AM
ok, "teh" woodlands is finally getting a new stadium after all the years of their whining and complaining. the new south county stadium will be used by oak ridge hs, conroe the woodlands college park hs, and "teh" woodlands hs. so if all 3 schools get to use the stadium why should it be named after a person that coached at only "teh" woodlands and screwed oak ridge over every chance he got???? well, i guess we will find out whenever they officially name the stadium in december, but that doesnt sound right to me............
Kilt-Boy
09-20-2006, 11:02 AM
But what about his long tenure as the district's AD??? :rolleyes:
forest99
09-20-2006, 11:03 AM
oh yes, all 1 day of it....
unbiasedobserver
09-20-2006, 12:14 PM
They have to name it something. Highlander Stadium, Cavalier Stadium, and War Eagle stadium are pretty much out. I don't think Oak Ridge would agree to Mitchell Stadium. I prefer South County Stadium, or even Gerald Irons Stadium, but I have heard the same rumors as to the name.
Kilt-Boy
09-20-2006, 12:18 PM
or even Gerald Irons Stadium
I vote for this one. At least Iron's Stadium sounds intimidating.
forest99
09-20-2006, 12:28 PM
actually, irons stadium sounds good.....and at least he served conroe isd, not a particular school. south county stadium would work too....
twcpfan1
09-20-2006, 12:30 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with a name that defers to ORHS. Correct me if I'm wrong. They were here before McCullough right? Anyway, regardless of that, it's about time they're front and center. They definitely deserve the recognition.
TheDuke
09-20-2006, 01:07 PM
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!
It isn't REALLY going to be called that is it?
As a former player for Willig, I would not like to walk into a stadium with that name on it.
I hope there are OTHER options.
IRON'S STADIUM has my vote!
forest99
09-20-2006, 01:41 PM
yes duke, they actually want to name the south county stadium that....and last night the school board wanted to go ahead and make it official, but they decided to look into it more and decide sometime in december. at least conroe and "teh" woodlands can agree on one subject!!
McC Insider
09-20-2006, 01:56 PM
Conroe05 is right. Last night the board discussed naming the stadium after the former Highlander Head Coach. As the stadium will service Oak Ridge and College Park as well I feel naming it after a representative of one schol will cause problems.
After all isn't that why the woods dresses in the visitors locker room at Moorhead, because Willig said that was not a home field. The naming rights should be sold to help pay for the facility or it should be called what it is CISD Athletic Complex as the is a natatorium on site as well. I don't think weldon had much to do with the success of the woods swimteam either.
Iron's Stadium would work as well.
supercentex
09-20-2006, 01:58 PM
They should just call it something like Memorial Stadium @ The Woodlands
Kilt-Boy
09-20-2006, 02:07 PM
They should just call it something like Memorial Stadium @ The Woodlands
Ooh, ooh, I got it !!!!!!
Weldon (insert M.I.) Willig Woodlands Memorial Stadium..... Rocky Gullo Field :D :D :D :D :D
SLOOPY
09-20-2006, 02:38 PM
They should just call it something like Memorial Stadium @ The Woodlands
Considering the stadium is in Shenandoah on the Oak Ridge side of the district, that would not make much sense.
forest99
09-20-2006, 02:50 PM
hmmm.....so it should be memorial stadium at the oak ridge????
TheDuke
09-20-2006, 03:33 PM
All I know is, it should NOT be called Willig stadium.
Anything else would be fine.
SLOOPY
09-20-2006, 03:38 PM
Duke, why the hard feelings. Didn't he help you see the light as a member of highlander nation. Didn't he mold you into the man you are today. Oh, wait wouldn't he have actually known your name to do that, or for that matter been to practice for more than 10 minutes.
TheDuke
09-20-2006, 03:44 PM
Duke, why the hard feelings. Didn't he help you see the light as a member of highlander nation. Didn't he mold you into the man you are today. Oh, wait wouldn't he have actually known your name to do that, or for that matter been to practice for more than 10 minutes.
Where do these people come from?:rolleyes:
G-Man
09-20-2006, 03:45 PM
All I know is, it should NOT be called Willig stadium.
Anything else would be fine.
If Morehead deserves a stadium to be named after him, then Willig does too. Weldon worked really hard to make TWHS into what it is and has been...a winner. They been excellent in every sport for a long time. Say what you want about the man, he got the job done.
TheDuke
09-20-2006, 04:00 PM
If Morehead deserves a stadium to be named after him, then Willig does too. Weldon worked really hard to make TWHS into what it is and has been...a winner. They been excellent in every sport for a long time. Say what you want about the man, he got the job done.
I agree, unless you played for him you really don't know what I am talking about. I think he did some things well, and I think he did alot of things bad. I just think if your gonna build a stadium for MORE THEN ONE TEAM you don't single out one name.
Big Daddy Cool
09-20-2006, 06:04 PM
I agree that if they are going to name it after an individual it needs to be someone who did something for the school as a whole. If it were only going to be used by the Highlanders then yeah name it after Wilig. I say call it Conroe ISD Stadium like we have done with our Galena Park ISD Stadium or offer a deal to one of the local business from the area.
TheDuke
09-20-2006, 06:10 PM
I agree that if they are going to name it after an individual it needs to be someone who did something for the school as a whole. If it were only going to be used by the Highlanders then yeah name it after Wilig. I say call it Conroe ISD Stadium like we have done with our Galena Park ISD Stadium or offer a deal to one of the local business from the area.
My point exactly!:D
twcpfan1
09-20-2006, 06:17 PM
Wait a second. Isn't it also going to be a Natatorium? Should it maybe have a name like "something" SPORTS CENTER
twhfan#1
09-20-2006, 06:57 PM
I wouldn't have a problem with a name that defers to ORHS. Correct me if I'm wrong. They were here before McCullough right? Anyway, regardless of that, it's about time they're front and center. They definitely deserve the recognition.
NO -- Oak Ridge came about 5 years after McCullough opened -- just ask some of those McCullogh players that lived in Oak Ridge ( those that Weldon screwed over by getting them full rides at colleges to play FB or other sports ) --matter of fact Weldon lived in Oak Rodge foe several years before moving to Woodlands
Gerald Irons did NOTHING for South County
You people that are against Willig should realize that without his pushing for it
there would not be a South County for many , many more years
GUNNER
09-20-2006, 09:48 PM
NO -- Oak Ridge came about 5 years after McCullough opened -- just ask some of those McCullogh players that lived in Oak Ridge ( those that Weldon screwed over by getting them full rides at colleges to play FB or other sports ) --matter of fact Weldon lived in Oak Rodge foe several years before moving to Woodlands
Gerald Irons did NOTHING for South County
You people that are against Willig should realize that without his pushing for it
there would not be a South County for many , many more years
Well WW did a alot for many kids!! He started the QB club that gives each kid a scholarship to attend college. Many kids came through the Woodlands and may or may have not had a good relationship with Willig... He operated business like and the OC and DC took care of the football end of the deal with his guidance. FACTS- Everyone hates the Woodlands and loves to beat them and cant stand when they win..... Well north county schools Oak ridge and CP hate the Woodlands........ If not for Willig we would not have a stadium.... So if all the woodlands haters are deciding on the stadium then life goes on..........Whatever the gods decide on a name then so be it..... BUT I hope they dont make a decision to JAB at the woodlands one more time!!!!! The woodlands will still be successful and all will hate them no matter what stadium they play in.
Good luck in District!
twcpfan1
09-20-2006, 10:06 PM
Well WW did a alot for many kids!! He started the QB club that gives each kid a scholarship to attend college. Many kids came through the Woodlands and may or may have not had a good relationship with Willig... He operated business like and the OC and DC took care of the football end of the deal with his guidance. FACTS- Everyone hates the Woodlands and loves to beat them and cant stand when they win..... Well north county schools Oak ridge and CP hate the Woodlands........ If not for Willig we would not have a stadium.... So if all the woodlands haters are deciding on the stadium then life goes on..........Whatever the gods decide on a name then so be it..... BUT I hope they dont make a decision to JAB at the woodlands one more time!!!!! The woodlands will still be successful and all will hate them no matter what stadium they play in.
Good luck in District!
Where are you basing your comments on? Oh by the way, ORHS is south of The Woodlands HS. And CP isn't much further north. I've never seen any evidence of hatred or jealousy between these 3 schools. The kids from all 3 schools are much too classy for that . The year TWHS went to state, Oak Ridge kids were at the game cheering them on. CP kids were regulars at Moorhead last year when they did not field a varsity team. CP parents, myself included, will be cheering on the War Eagles and the Highlanders until they play CP
GUNNER
09-20-2006, 10:42 PM
Where are you basing your comments on? Oh by the way, ORHS is south of The Woodlands HS. And CP isn't much further north. I've never seen any evidence of hatred or jealousy between these 3 schools. The kids from all 3 schools are much too classy for that . The year TWHS went to state, Oak Ridge kids were at the game cheering them on. CP kids were regulars at Moorhead last year when they did not field a varsity team. CP parents, myself included, will be cheering on the War Eagles and the Highlanders until they play CP
I meant North County schools, Oak Ridge and CP. I to cheer all....Cavalierdad kudos to you for not falling to the followers. Anyway it doesnt matter what the name of the stadium is The South county schools will have a semi true home place to play, it still bothers me that people dont want it to be Willig stadium. Willig put in 26 plus years of his life trying to build a great athletic program and by gosh I think he did well........ Good luck CPDad vs Kingwood I think you guys can beat them also!!!
G-Man
09-20-2006, 11:53 PM
I agree, unless you played for him you really don't know what I am talking about. I think he did some things well, and I think he did alot of things bad. I just think if your gonna build a stadium for MORE THEN ONE TEAM you don't single out one name. Doesn't really matter though.
But everyone has been playing at Morehead which is named after a Conroe high coach. Whats the difference? Then the next stadium can be named Holtkamp field after the ex-Oak Ridge now Conroe coach. :) :)
twhfan#1
09-21-2006, 07:41 AM
I agree, unless you played for him you really don't know what I am talking about. I think he did some things well, and I think he did alot of things bad. I just think if your gonna build a stadium for MORE THEN ONE TEAM you don't single out one name. Doesn't really matter though.
I dont know you Duke -- but I know your type --sit here & throw bombs at people to make up your shortcomings -- If WW was such a terrible coach to his players , why did he get dozens of letters from former players backing the stadium named after him ?? --why did he get many , many calls & letters from former players after his heart attack thanking him for his influence in their lifes
twhfan#1
09-21-2006, 07:47 AM
ok, "teh" woodlands is finally getting a new stadium after all the years of their whining and complaining. the new south county stadium will be used by oak ridge hs, conroe the woodlands college park hs, and "teh" woodlands hs. so if all 3 schools get to use the stadium why should it be named after a person that coached at only "teh" woodlands and screwed oak ridge over every chance he got???? well, i guess we will find out whenever they officially name the stadium in december, but that doesnt sound right to me............
OK --cant let thiso by --easy fopr you to make BS statements --- name ONE way WW screwed OR -- back up your bitterness with facts or shut up
TheDuke
09-21-2006, 10:31 AM
I dont know you Duke -- but I know your type --sit here & throw bombs at people to make up your shortcomings -- If WW was such a terrible coach to his players , why did he get dozens of letters from former players backing the stadium named after him ?? --why did he get many , many calls & letters from former players after his heart attack thanking him for his influence in their lifes
I don't know you either. Whatever that means?
Everything I said is something I experienced as a player for him for 4 years, not saying he is a bad person or anything, but he could have done alot of things better for the program while I was there. That is all I am gonna say.
As far as the letters from the players, I would have done the same thing IF he would have treated me the same why I treated him. Dozens of letters doesn't really make up for the Hundreds of kids that played Football for him in the past!
If you didn't play for McC then you would have no idea what I am talking about so don't say you know my type.
forest99
09-21-2006, 10:33 AM
OK --cant let this by --easy fopr you to make BS statements --- name ONE way WW screwed OR -- back up your bitterness with facts or shut up
ok, i pick the back up my bitterness with facts option.....how about WW stealing players from oak ridge (cameron montgomery) whenever they were a lowly 4A program, just like caney creek loses kids now (samson taylor).
forest99
09-21-2006, 10:38 AM
But everyone has been playing at Morehead which is named after a Conroe high coach. Whats the difference? Then the next stadium can be named Holtkamp field after the ex-Oak Ridge now Conroe coach. :) :)
well, first of all buddy moorhead died tragically while he was still the head coach of conroe hs. next, the name used to be tiger stadium. so conroe did mccullough a favor by changing it from tiger stadium to moorhead. wow, i could just see all "teh" woodlands fans now if it was still tiger stadium! i have an idea for the new stadium, Traffic Congestion Field at Willig Stadium in "teh" woodlands.....but actually its in shenandoah....but thats another story....
G-Man
09-21-2006, 11:29 AM
ok, i pick the back up my bitterness with facts option.....how about WW stealing players from oak ridge (cameron montgomery) whenever they were a lowly 4A program, just like caney creek loses kids now (samson taylor).
Not fair adding facts when all of us only have opinions.:) :)
leda08
09-21-2006, 12:37 PM
I agree is SHOULD be called WW stadium, If it wasn't for this man there would be no stadium in South County!
McC Insider
09-21-2006, 12:45 PM
The bottom line on this situation is that yes WW did do enough for the woodlands high school to earn some form of recognition, there is no doubt about that. His record reflects his leadership as a head coach. Do I think he could have done it on his own, NO. But, he put the right people in place to win. Yes, the seniors get scholorships, the quarterback club raises lots of money, but there is lots of money in the woodlands to give. Let's just say it is a bit different that Aldine. Where it just so happens they named their on campus stadium after former head coach Bill Smith (Richard Carson's HC College Park Mentor) who actually went to multiple state championships and won. If the woodlands want to name their on campus stadium after willig there won't be a problem.
If WW had helped other CISD programs in some form this might be a possibility but he didn't, and he hasn't died tragicly either like moorhead.
Can't we find some common ground. Oh, by the way WW wanted out a long time ago. He wanted the Bryan job, but not to many people know that.
McC Insider
09-21-2006, 12:47 PM
I agree is SHOULD be called WW stadium, If it wasn't for this man there would be no stadium in South County!
There should not be a stadium in south county. We still have classrooms without computers in this district, students without books, ect.
When there is 8 high schools then I'll back a new stadium.
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 01:01 PM
There should not be a stadium in south county. We still have classrooms without computers in this district, students without books, ect.
When there is 8 high schools then I'll back a new stadium.
I think the Woodlands and Oak Ridge are entitled to a Sports facility they can call their own, when you consider the tax revenue that comes from those communities. However, if what you are saying is true, it definitely needs to be addressed, but not at the expense of the new Stadium. The South County residents deserve that.
forest99
09-21-2006, 01:11 PM
I think the Woodlands and Oak Ridge are entitled to a Sports facility they can call their own, when you consider the tax revenue that comes from those communities. However, if what you are saying is true, it definitely needs to be addressed, but not at the expense of the new Stadium. The South County residents deserve that.
so basically....people with more money deserve nicer things???
Kilt-Boy
09-21-2006, 01:21 PM
so basically....people with more money deserve nicer things???
Come on Conroe05 we don't "deserve" the stadium, we're "entitled" to it.
TheDuke
09-21-2006, 01:22 PM
Agreed.
forest99
09-21-2006, 01:25 PM
what makes yall "entitled" to it??? cy fair isd last year played at one stadium with 7 schools....so instead of making conroe isd nicer all around by helping schools that arent in good shape we should put up a new south county stadium so "teh" woodlands NATION doesnt have to drive an extra 10 min??????
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 01:32 PM
so basically....people with more money deserve nicer things???
You can also put it another way. People make a choice to work hard in order to enjoy the finer things and provide their children a good education and a safe and pleasant environment. And I know we can bring obtained wealth into the equation and that's fine. But I really do not think that is the case for most people.
McC Insider
09-21-2006, 01:38 PM
You can also put it another way. People make a choice to work hard in order to enjoy the finer things and provide their children a good education and a safe and pleasant environment. And I know we can bring obtained wealth into the equation and that's fine. But I really do not think that is the case for most people.
cavalierdad do you have the inside scoop. According to you the school district has made an effort to better the education in south county, favoring the students there over the ones in north county. I thought all children had an equal opportunity. At least that's my goal as a tax payer.
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 01:43 PM
what makes yall "entitled" to it??? cy fair isd last year played at one stadium with 7 schools....so instead of making conroe isd nicer all around by helping schools that arent in good shape we should put up a new south county stadium so "teh" woodlands NATION doesnt have to drive an extra 10 min??????
10 minutes? have you driven to Moorhead fom the Woodlands on a Friday evening lately? Sorry, we're getting sidetracked here. Which schools are in bad shape and how bad a shape are they in? And in relative terms, how do they stack up against the average Texas school? And wasn't the big stipulation of building the Sth County stadium was that a lot of funds would also be allocated for School improvements and Moorhead Stadium?
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 01:50 PM
cavalierdad do you have the inside scoop. According to you the school district has made an effort to better the education in south county, favoring the students there over the ones in north county. I thought all children had an equal opportunity. At least that's my goal as a tax payer.
I dont think I've ever made a distinction between North and South County. From what I've heard the improvements will apply to the entire school district. I do not have the inside scoop on it. I'm going by what I've read on local news
forest99
09-21-2006, 01:50 PM
You can also put it another way. People make a choice to work hard in order to enjoy the finer things and provide their children a good education and a safe and pleasant environment. And I know we can bring obtained wealth into the equation and that's fine. But I really do not think that is the case for most people.
so just because somebody works harder than somebody else that means that they work harder than that other person....wow....
McC Insider
09-21-2006, 01:52 PM
Have you visited washington or some elementary schools in Conroe or East county lately. And yes, I have driven north on friday night, since construction started it is moving smoother and when its finished (about the same time this stadium will be) It will be 14 to 16 lanes and travel will be about 10-20 minutes.
Actually the reason this bond was passed was because WW and the former superintendent tried to realocate funds from previous bonds to build their stadium. At the time the schools were worse off, so to get the stadium built it required piggiebacking it onto other improvments.
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 02:02 PM
so just because somebody works harder than somebody else that means that they work harder than that other person....wow....
You've lost me . I'm sorry
Kilt-Boy
09-21-2006, 02:06 PM
what makes yall "entitled" to it???
For what it's worth I was joking when I made the "entitled" comment.
forest99
09-21-2006, 02:55 PM
oh, ok kiltboy....i did think you were serious so thanks for clarifying!! and is that logo just for woodlands baseball, or every sport??
forest99
09-21-2006, 02:58 PM
You can also put it another way. People make a choice to work hard in order to enjoy the finer things and provide their children a good education and a safe and pleasant environment. And I know we can bring obtained wealth into the equation and that's fine. But I really do not think that is the case for most people.
i think people in conroe and caney creek areas work just as hard as "teh" woodlands people do, if not harder....so shouldnt they enjoy the exact same good education along with the safe and pleasant environment?? and since when did moorhead stadium become unsafe and unpleasant????
Kilt-Boy
09-21-2006, 03:17 PM
is that logo just for woodlands baseball, or every sport??
I don't know the answer to that. I could have sworn I saw it on football shirts a couple years back.
Duke, already had the helmet, so this is the next best image I found.
McC Insider
09-21-2006, 03:28 PM
The "Highlander Nation" logo was created prior to last season the summer of 05 when college park was about to open. It was the first sign of a devided community. That an the college park phrase "theres a new man in town and he doesn't wear a skirt."
unbiasedobserver
09-21-2006, 03:56 PM
Wow three pages on this subject? I am amazed.
twcpfan1
09-21-2006, 04:21 PM
i think people in conroe and caney creek areas work just as hard as "teh" woodlands people do, if not harder....so shouldnt they enjoy the exact same good education along with the safe and pleasant environment?? and since when did moorhead stadium become unsafe and unpleasant????
i will address these comments one more time then i will get on to football matters which is what i think this board was created for.
You're absolutely correct. Everybody deserves a quality education and I agree that whatever needs to be corrected within the district needs to be addressed immediately. I don't think anybody will deny that the Woodlands schools enjoy certain advantages over the other schools. Do I feel that this is right? Absolutely not. But does it happen in reality just like anywhere else where there is economic diversity within a district? My guess would be yes. And I have to admit that I chose to send my kids to the Woodlands schools because of these advantages.(fair or unfair).
The safe and pleasant environment comment was made in general terms and in no way alludes to Moorhead Stadium, Conroe or Caney Creek. For the record, I love Moorehead Stadium. It's as much part of Woodlands tradition to me as I feel it is to Conroe's , Oak Ridge's , and Caney Creek's.
For practical purposes, and purely from a football standpoint, I just feel the time is right to have another stadium within the District. But when it happens, it will be a sad day for me personally when the Woodlands area schools will no loger call Moorehead home.
twhfan#1
09-21-2006, 09:33 PM
i will address these comments one more time then i will get on to football matters which is what i think this board was created for.
You're absolutely correct. Everybody deserves a quality education and I agree that whatever needs to be corrected within the district needs to be addressed immediately. I don't think anybody will deny that the Woodlands schools enjoy certain advantages over the other schools. Do I feel that this is right? Absolutely not. But does it happen in reality just like anywhere else where there is economic diversity within a district? My guess would be yes. And I have to admit that I chose to send my kids to the Woodlands schools because of these advantages.(fair or unfair).
The safe and pleasant environment comment was made in general terms and in no way alludes to Moorhead Stadium, Conroe or Caney Creek. For the record, I love Moorehead Stadium. It's as much part of Woodlands tradition to me as I feel it is to Conroe's , Oak Ridge's , and Caney Creek's.
For practical purposes, and purely from a football standpoint, I just feel the time is right to have another stadium within the District. But when it happens, it will be a sad day for me personally when the Woodlands area schools will no loger call Moorehead home.
I never called Moorehead home -- it was always CONROE stadium --will allways be ( in reality Tiger stadium ) --Conroe people ( the old-lline wealthy town people )always let it be known that they were "letting other schools play there --but it is really Conroe's stadium "
Conroe 05 talks about OR players going to TWH to play --believe me there were many more that went the other direction ( to attend the Academy & by the way play sports also )
WW ALWAYS supported ALL the sports at TWH --not just FB --as campus AD it was his job --- no one at McC / TWH was happier than WW when another sport had success -- or Drill team --he was one of Highsteppers biggest fans-- he used them & the Cross Country team as examples of committment to excellance
Some people forget ( or not aware ) that WW had arranged for a varsity FB stadium to be built on TWH campus at NO COST to taxpayers ( fund raising by Boosters ) --but because a handful of residents compalined about noise --CISD would not allow it --- that is probably what he was doing while DUKE was sitting on practice field sucking his thumb becuse WW didnt come over & rub his head.
I am not going to say anything about his coaching ability --I cant really judge that --- but some of you "newcomers" need to know some history of CISD , TWH / Mc C , & Montgomery County in general before you throw bricks at a dedicated educator that cared for the kids , the school & South County
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 07:42 AM
I never called Moorehead home -- it was always CONROE stadium --will allways be ( in reality Tiger stadium ) --Conroe people ( the old-lline wealthy town people )always let it be known that they were "letting other schools play there --but it is really Conroe's stadium "
Conroe 05 talks about OR players going to TWH to play --believe me there were many more that went the other direction ( to attend the Academy & by the way play sports also )
WW ALWAYS supported ALL the sports at TWH --not just FB --as campus AD it was his job --- no one at McC / TWH was happier than WW when another sport had success -- or Drill team --he was one of Highsteppers biggest fans-- he used them & the Cross Country team as examples of committment to excellance
Some people forget ( or not aware ) that WW had arranged for a varsity FB stadium to be built on TWH campus at NO COST to taxpayers ( fund raising by Boosters ) --but because a handful of residents compalined about noise --CISD would not allow it --- that is probably what he was doing while DUKE was sitting on practice field sucking his thumb becuse WW didnt come over & rub his head.
I am not going to say anything about his coaching ability --I cant really judge that --- but some of you "newcomers" need to know some history of CISD , TWH / Mc C , & Montgomery County in general before you throw bricks at a dedicated educator that cared for the kids , the school & South County
ummm...This was a direct response to one of my posts. Not once did I mention Willig's name at anytime during this thread. My participation mainly constitutes responses to people who think that there should not be a South County Stadium. I enjoyed reading your post though. It was both passionate and informative
dragonsdaddy
09-22-2006, 07:52 AM
this field has been plowed before when plano built a new stadium, in pesh's part of town. they named it for the hc of the crosstown rival wildcats, and i don't remember any of this backbiting and rhetoric. but since i don't have a dog in this fight, carry on.
McC Insider
09-22-2006, 11:06 AM
Cavalierdad,
I have had a change of heart. I think College Park sould have its own stadium becuase the district can't even correctly spell the College Park banner at Moorhead. Check it out at the next game. Look close at the banners flying above the field.
forest99
09-22-2006, 11:48 AM
your right mcc insider....i thought i was just seeing things. the banner for cp says the woolands college park....i noticed it while up in the press box a few weeks ago......no respect, no respect....
TheDuke
09-22-2006, 12:03 PM
your right mcc insider....i thought i was just seeing things. the banner for cp says the woolands college park....i noticed it while up in the press box a few weeks ago......no respect, no respect....
If this is true, That is really embarrassing!
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 12:04 PM
Do you guys realize that there's some dude on this Forum with over 19,000 posts? I thought I was seeing things there too.
TheDuke
09-22-2006, 12:11 PM
Do you guys realize that there's some dude on this Forum with over 19,000 posts? I thought I was seeing things there too.
Who has 19,000 posts?:eek:
dragonsdaddy
09-22-2006, 12:12 PM
Do you guys realize that there's some dude on this Forum with over 19,000 posts? I thought I was seeing things there too.
that's not just some dude. that's l2k. hero for every mega-poster here and everywhere. and is it only 19k? i figured it was l20k by now.
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 12:23 PM
Who has 19,000 posts?:eek:
Duke, I had to double check that my info was accurate. And yep it sure was. 19,122 and counting from lonny23.
And Dragonsdaddy, I haven't been posting long enough to know that this forum had heroes let alone knowing who they are.
And while we're on the subject of heroes, the young men and women of this state who play High school sports (past and present) should also be considered for that title.
AHS Mustangs
09-22-2006, 12:25 PM
Is there really that much of a divide between "North County" and "South County" schools in Conroe ISD? Maybe Conroe ISD should build a neutral stadium and let all 5 schools use it, instead of having Conroe and Caney Creek at Moorehead, and The Woodlands, College Park and Oak Ridge at a new stadium. Aldine ISD has a centralized stadium, true it is further for Eisenhower than any other school, but it is still not on the campus of another school within the district (except Aldine Middle School, but that doesn't count). School districts like Conroe and Humble didn't foresee the problems that are occuring now that more than one high school exists in their district. Humble has the same problem with Turner Stadium. I know when Aldine played Kingwood there, we had to go to the "home" locker room, which was actually part of Humble High School, because Kingwood used the "visitor" side, even though they were home. When we played Humble there, we used the same one that Kingwood used the year before. Conroe could do like Aldine ISD, and make Moorehead an Auxilary stadium (The one behind Aldine HS on 45 is the Auxilary Stadium, now named Smith Auxilary), and build a centralized stadium for ALL to use.
McC Insider
09-22-2006, 12:50 PM
Conroe could do like Aldine ISD, and make Moorehead an Auxilary stadium (The one behind Aldine HS on 45 is the Auxilary Stadium, now named Smith Auxilary), and build a centralized stadium for ALL to use.
That might be a good idea if more head collapesed with the the fans and the band folling 20 feet below, like Aldine did. But, that would be dumb to not use a 10,000 seat physically sound stadium.
And yes it has been spelled The Woolands College Park for two seasons now, on all four banners.
TheDuke
09-22-2006, 02:23 PM
And yes it has been spelled The Woolands College Park for two seasons now, on all four banners.
I Can't believe that.
McC Insider
09-22-2006, 02:57 PM
I Can't believe that.
Check it out tonight at the Collins game. You can't miss it but you have to take a close look. It is almost like they they could not fit it all in so the cut the D.
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 06:01 PM
Might be a good luck omen. I'd leave it as long as they keep winning. I heard Tomball played Conroe tough last night. 9-7 into the 4th until Conroe eventually won 16-7. Maybe CP aren't that bad
forest99
09-22-2006, 09:29 PM
well, conroe def gave up one big play (70 yrd. td throw) and besides that shut down the tomball off the whole night, and caused about 6 fumbles! its just too bad that the conroe off is so very young and theyre turning the ball over at almost the same rate!!!
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 09:32 PM
Getting back to the Stadium, the Electronic Scoreboard at Moorhead is currently not working. The TSRN Sports commentators are totally lost without it. TWHS 14 Klein Collins 0. close to halftime they think
forest99
09-22-2006, 09:44 PM
well cavdad, i tell you what.....if somebody just walked in right now and looked at stats and number and scores of games, they would say lufkin and college park and shoe-ins for playoffs while everybody else except magnolia is in a dogfight for the other two spots!!!!
twcpfan1
09-22-2006, 10:33 PM
well cavdad, i tell you what.....if somebody just walked in right now and looked at stats and number and scores of games, they would say lufkin and college park and shoe-ins for playoffs while everybody else except magnolia is in a dogfight for the other two spots!!!!
Look at The Woodlands College Park Thread. Even after a couple of victories, they were still being compared to garbage including trashing a couple of our kids individually. All I'm saying is they might be better than you guys think. The comments being made were based on their weak schedule. Apparently, we're not allowed to disagree
Kilt-Boy
09-23-2006, 12:08 AM
Getting back to the Stadium, the Electronic Scoreboard at Moorhead is currently not working.
You never know how much you pay attention to the game clock until it's not there.
Might I just say, Moorehead is just a WONDERFUL stadium. :mad: :mad:
forest99
09-23-2006, 08:58 AM
You never know how much you pay attention to the game clock until it's not there.
Might I just say, Moorehead is just a WONDERFUL stadium. :mad: :mad:
well, instead of making an entire new stadium, why doesnt cisd fix everything thats wrong with moorhead first...or play every cisd team in both stadiums, just like cy fair is doing....
forest99
09-23-2006, 08:58 AM
Look at The Woodlands College Park Thread. Even after a couple of victories, they were still being compared to garbage including trashing a couple of our kids individually. All I'm saying is they might be better than you guys think. The comments being made were based on their weak schedule. Apparently, we're not allowed to disagree
well, anybody that is comparing them to garbage and trashing individual kids personally is not worth listening to anyways...
twcpfan1
09-23-2006, 09:05 AM
well, instead of making an entire new stadium, why doesnt cisd fix everything thats wrong with moorhead first...or play every cisd team in both stadiums, just like cy fair is doing....
Agree. Every CISD school should be able to use both stadiums for their home games.
slorch
09-23-2006, 09:23 AM
I lived in the Woodlands for 2 years and have lived in Oak Ridge North for the last 7 months. Here are my observations-
1. It is crazy to play your "home" games 12 miles away in Conroe. It is a PIA- Pain in the *&^.
2. The South County schools have about as much in common with Conroe as they do with inner-city Houston or Huntsville. It is painfully obvious that CISD would never let go of the tax base in South Montgomery County, yet they ***** about the South County schools/ fans being arrogant. You get tired of carrying someone after awhile!
3. It is still a mystery to me why, when we lived about 2 blocks from McCullough Junior High( in the middle of the Woodlands) our school district was Conroe ISD and the post office said Spring, Texas. Now I live in Oak Ridge North(the other side of I45 from the Woodlands, and 15 miles from Conroe) and my address is Conroe, Texas. What the ^&%% ?
For those of you locals that know the situation with Conroe and the Fire Departments( Harper's Landing,) it just gets more and more confusing.
It seems to be a system of gerrymandering that would make any politician blush because there is no shame!!! The South County schools should have their own stadium IMO and it should reflect the progressive attitude of the community. As for what the name is, I don't know the whole history of Willig, but IMO, it should be something that each school or the whole community identifies with.
forest99
09-23-2006, 09:54 AM
I lived in the Woodlands for 2 years and have lived in Oak Ridge North for the last 7 months. Here are my observations-
1. It is crazy to play your "home" games 12 miles away in Conroe. It is a PIA- Pain in the *&^.
2. The South County schools have about as much in common with Conroe as they do with inner-city Houston or Huntsville. It is painfully obvious that CISD would never let go of the tax base in South Montgomery County, yet they ***** about the South County schools/ fans being arrogant. You get tired of carrying someone after awhile!
3. It is still a mystery to me why, when we lived about 2 blocks from McCullough Junior High( in the middle of the Woodlands) our school district was Conroe ISD and the post office said Spring, Texas. Now I live in Oak Ridge North(the other side of I45 from the Woodlands, and 15 miles from Conroe) and my address is Conroe, Texas. What the ^&%% ?
For those of you locals that know the situation with Conroe and the Fire Departments( Harper's Landing,) it just gets more and more confusing.
It seems to be a system of gerrymandering that would make any politician blush because there is no shame!!! The South County schools should have their own stadium IMO and it should reflect the progressive attitude of the community. As for what the name is, I don't know the whole history of Willig, but IMO, it should be something that each school or the whole community identifies with.
well, first off, did you ever hear conroe whine and complain whenever they were the ones carrying mccullough???? and theres nothing odd about "teh" woodlands being 12 miles away and in the same isd as conroe...check out the klein's and cy fair's sometime....speaking of them...klein has 4 teams which use the same stadium, at klein hs...klein memorial stadium....and cy fair has an older facility as well as a brand new one, which they named after an ex-super. and all 8 teams next year will use both stadiums, awwww....sharing.....and as far as your city name and fire dept., take that one up with the govt!!! ya, and im not even going to bring up your gerrymandering subject, ill just say they should change the name to willigmandering.....
slorch
09-23-2006, 09:57 AM
Like I said, I have only lived here 2.5 years, I have a hard tme believing that the tax base was ever lower here than it was in Conroe, but I'll take your statement at face value.
I have lived in Wichita Falls, Lubbock, and Amarillo. I understand sharing stadiums. It does not feel anything like a home game when we go to Conroe for a "home" game.
I agree with your last comment- Willigmandering:D .
twhfan#1
09-23-2006, 11:15 AM
well, first off, did you ever hear conroe whine and complain whenever they were the ones carrying mccullough???? and theres nothing odd about "teh" woodlands being 12 miles away and in the same isd as conroe...check out the klein's and cy fair's sometime....speaking of them...klein has 4 teams which use the same stadium, at klein hs...klein memorial stadium....and cy fair has an older facility as well as a brand new one, which they named after an ex-super. and all 8 teams next year will use both stadiums, awwww....sharing.....and as far as your city name and fire dept., take that one up with the govt!!! ya, and im not even going to bring up your gerrymandering subject, ill just say they should change the name to willigmandering.....
There you go again CONROE05 - -- spouting off about things you dont know -- learn some history before you make a fool of yourself --- YES --Conroe used to whine about McC -- complain about the newcomers using TIGER stadium -- not carrying their load --- making fun of McC football ; how they would NEVER be able to compete with CONROE
When South County ( which includes Oak Ridge , Fox Run , Sheanadoah , and other areas that were zoned to McC along with WOODLANDS ) wanted single member school board so there would be at least 1 rep --the 100 % Conroe people board stated in public that there was no need for that because they would do what was best for South County because the Conroe board had the experience & the newcomers didnt have the knowledge & background to serve on the board.
Most of the complaints now are justified paybacks
You need to stop drinking the Kool-Aide at Tiger town & stop bashing South County
McC Insider
09-27-2006, 04:56 PM
twhfan is right Conroe took it to McC and the woods on the field and in the boardroom. Now the woods returns the favor. It would be nice if students all over the district got a fair shake. the ones that get lost in the polaticing live in Oak Ridge or out in East county. And why because the communities are smaller.
Well, let me say this. Take a look at the district growth it is all in Oak Ridge and if I know the east side of 45 like I think I do someone is going to pay for the last 20 years at some point. We are stating to see a rise from Oak Ridge and with the division of the woods we might see alot more than that.
I think a name that all three schools agree on would go along way to ease tensions.
twcpfan1
09-27-2006, 05:04 PM
twhfan is right Conroe took it to McC and the woods on the field and in the boardroom. Now the woods returns the favor. It would be nice if students all over the district got a fair shake. the ones that get lost in the polaticing live in Oak Ridge or out in East county. And why because the communities are smaller.
Well, let me say this. Take a look at the district growth it is all in Oak Ridge and if I know the east side of 45 like I think I do someone is going to pay for the last 20 years at some point. We are stating to see a rise from Oak Ridge and with the division of the woods we might see alot more than that.
I think a name that all three schools agree on would go along way to ease tensions.
It can have 3 different names depending on who is playing its home game on a given night. Have an electronic sign out front that could read, Highlander Stadium, War Eagle Stadium, or Cavalier Stadium on any given night....Or how about we name it after the Highsteppers, Reveliers, or Liberty Belles. That would be different.
twhfan#1
09-27-2006, 09:22 PM
It can have 3 different names depending on who is playing its home game on a given night. Have an electronic sign out front that could read, Highlander Stadium, War Eagle Stadium, or Cavalier Stadium on any given night....Or how about we name it after the Highsteppers, Reveliers, or Liberty Belles. That would be different.
Guess it doesnt bother you for CP to play in a stadium that is named after a coach from one school -- Buddy Moorhead was a coach at Conroe High --prior to that it was CONROE stadium -- & before that it was TIGER stadium
In case you didnt know --the original plan for a stadium in South County was going to be on CP campus --this is the plan that Willig backed --- but the FOTW church backed out on the oral agreement of land
Ex Supt Lusk & Ex board president Eisler are the ones that pushed the site behind Portafino
twcpfan1
09-27-2006, 09:35 PM
Guess it doesnt bother you for CP to play in a stadium that is named after a coach from one school -- Buddy Moorhead was a coach at Conroe High --prior to that it was CONROE stadium -- & before that it was TIGER stadium
In case you didnt know --the original plan for a stadium in South County was going to be on CP campus --this is the plan that Willig backed --- but the FOTW church backed out on the oral agreement of land
Ex Supt Lusk & Ex board president Eisler are the ones that pushed the site behind Portafino
Quite frankly, it doesn't bother me what they name the new stadium. Just glad TWHS TWCP and ORHS would have a stadium closer to their home base. If they decide to name it after the ex TWHS Coach, I'll have zero problem with that. Whatever issues others may have with that whether it be ex-players' opinion of him as a head coach or any other reason, I'm really not qualified to comment since I do not know enough about it. I don't know if you know, but will it hold more people that Moorhead? Cause I've got a feeling the TWHS - CP game will become a major event further down the road. We might need the extra seats.
twhfan#1
09-27-2006, 09:44 PM
I lived in the Woodlands for 2 years and have lived in Oak Ridge North for the last 7 months. Here are my observations-
1. It is crazy to play your "home" games 12 miles away in Conroe. It is a PIA- Pain in the *&^.
2. The South County schools have about as much in common with Conroe as they do with inner-city Houston or Huntsville. It is painfully obvious that CISD would never let go of the tax base in South Montgomery County, yet they ***** about the South County schools/ fans being arrogant. You get tired of carrying someone after awhile!
3. It is still a mystery to me why, when we lived about 2 blocks from McCullough Junior High( in the middle of the Woodlands) our school district was Conroe ISD and the post office said Spring, Texas. Now I live in Oak Ridge North(the other side of I45 from the Woodlands, and 15 miles from Conroe) and my address is Conroe, Texas. What the ^&%% ?
For those of you locals that know the situation with Conroe and the Fire Departments( Harper's Landing,) it just gets more and more confusing.
It seems to be a system of gerrymandering that would make any politician blush because there is no shame!!! The South County schools should have their own stadium IMO and it should reflect the progressive attitude of the community. As for what the name is, I don't know the whole history of Willig, but IMO, it should be something that each school or the whole community identifies with.
You need to go back to school to get a civics lesson> School districts , Counties , and Post Office have nothing to do with each other -- and it has nothing to do with gerrymandering --- just the way things are in Texas -- just so you know :
1. School Districts were formed long before there was settlement in some areas --- Conroe ISD includes all area from city of Conroe to Spring Creek --was that way before there was Oak Ridge , Woodlands , or any other population --only residents were the sawmill workers living in Tamina
2. US Post Office sets their own serving areas --most people dont realize that The Woodlands Post Offices are actually sub-stations of the Spring Post Office --as for Oak Ridge -- you are served ( mail delivered from ) the Conroe post office ( no sub station ) --so if you have a problem with that -- go whine to USPS -- not a football chat line. There is some rational for the split the way it is -- more of an east-west split rather than north-south & there IS a natural dividing line east-west --it is called IH 45 --it is that little piece of concrete to the west of Oak Ridge --- ask around , most people in OR can show you where it is
3. The Harpers Landing situation is another Texas law -- Extra -Territorial Jurisdiction (ETJ)-- cities control certain distance from their city limits so they wont get boxed in --Harpers Landing is in Conroe ETJ --like it or not --that is the law. That is why all the meetings in Woodlands about governace means nothing --the vast majority of Woodlands is in Houston ETJ --so there can be no incorporation of Woodlands without permission from Houston
twhfan#1
09-27-2006, 09:57 PM
Quite frankly, it doesn't bother me what they name the new stadium. Just glad TWHS TWCP and ORHS would have a stadium closer to their home base. If they decide to name it after the ex TWHS Coach, I'll have zero problem with that. Whatever issues others may have with that whether it be ex-players' opinion of him as a head coach or any other reason, I'm really not qualified to comment since I do not know enough about it. I don't know if you know, but will it hold more people that Moorhead? Cause I've got a feeling the TWHS - CP game will become a major event further down the road. We might need the extra seats.
No --same size --except for the Natatorium --it will be a carbon copy of Conroe Stadium --board decided not to create any jealosy -- so it cant be any better than Conroe stadium ( except that some of bond $ for new stadium has been used to upgrade Conroe stadium )
as for all CISD schools playing at new stadium -- fine with me --- but the big justification for new stadium was to cut down on travel --thus the assignment of the 3 South County schools to new stadium while Caney Creek gets to share Conroe stadium with Conroe high
CHS98
10-01-2006, 01:57 PM
I grew up watching games at Moorehead.. and while I like the idea of building a south county stadium.. I would like them to name it something neutral....although I would never take away what WW did at McCHS and TWHS, I think something that better fits the 3 schools using the stadium would be better..
And eventually, we can turn Moorehead back into Tiger Stadium!!!
OnDaSlopes
10-01-2006, 07:05 PM
I grew up watching games at Moorehead.. and while I like the idea of building a south county stadium.. I would like them to name it something neutral....although I would never take away what WW did at McCHS and TWHS, I think something that better fits the 3 schools using the stadium would be better..
And eventually, we can turn Moorehead back into Tiger Stadium!!!
Dude don't say thinngs like that. IMO it should always be Buddy Moorhead Memorial. He was a fantastic coach and a great man that lived and breathed Conroe football. He did a lot for the people and fans of Conroe football and most of the man loved his players like no other.
GUNNER
10-03-2006, 08:49 AM
I grew up watching games at Moorehead.. and while I like the idea of building a south county stadium.. I would like them to name it something neutral....although I would never take away what WW did at McCHS and TWHS, I think something that better fits the 3 schools using the stadium would be better..
And eventually, we can turn Moorehead back into Tiger Stadium!!!
Conroe is conroe and they named the stadium and everyone names the stadiums after great men that have coached their entire lifes at one school and did the most for the youth so Weldon Willig Stadium should happen BUT>>>>>>>> COnroe people and district people despise the Woodlands. and therefore the naming of the stadium has gone public, so to find reasons not to name it after Willig Damn Shame!!!! Shame on you people..... I can't imagine now it will be named after Willig and that is terrible!!!!
McC Insider
10-03-2006, 01:28 PM
GUNNER:
It is not the people in conroe that have a problem or who have found reasons not to name it after willig. It is the people in Oak Ridge who don't want it, it is the people in college park who don't want it. Why? Because Weldon did not do anything for them or represent them in anyway. If he had been the AD for at least a couple years, I might understand but he was only associated with TWH so if the woods wants to honor him do it at the woodlands high school. I honestly don't understand why no one understands this. A the people in the woodlands that oblivious to the surrounding communities. How about the residents of Tamina or Shenandoah where the stadium is actually located?
GUNNER give me an explanation.
G-Man
10-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Conroe is conroe and they named the stadium and everyone names the stadiums after great men that have coached their entire lifes at one school and did the most for the youth so Weldon Willig Stadium should happen BUT>>>>>>>> COnroe people and district people despise the Woodlands. and therefore the naming of the stadium has gone public, so to find reasons not to name it after Willig Damn Shame!!!! Shame on you people..... I can't imagine now it will be named after Willig and that is terrible!!!!
Gunner, I agree. First, there would not even be a stadium if not for Weldon Willig pushing for one ever since Oak Ridge opened. Second, no one person has done more for Conroe ISD athletics than Weldon Willig. WT Stapler did a lot...Buddy Moorhead did a lot. Weldon Willig did much more. His athletic programs were the envy of Greater Houston for over 20 years...not just in football but EVERY sport...Baseball, CrossCountry, Track, Basketball, Golf, Swimming. Moreover, in the last few years of his career he did serve as the quasi athletic director while CISD did not have an official AD.
Strikes me as odd that the loudest complainers are not the Oak Ridge or Shenandoah people, but the Conroe people who live to hate the Woodlands.
Rivalry is one thing, and I've done battle with Willig teams for years and hated them too, but give the man the respect and recognition he so rightfully deserves...Welcome to Willig Stadium!!! Like Gunner says probably wont happen now and all who blocked it should hide their faces in shame.
twhfan#1
10-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Gunner, I agree. First, there would not even be a stadium if not for Weldon Willig pushing for one ever since Oak Ridge opened. Second, no one person has done more for Conroe ISD athletics than Weldon Willig. WT Stapler did a lot...Buddy Moorhead did a lot. Weldon Willig did much more. His athletic programs were the envy of Greater Houston for over 20 years...not just in football but EVERY sport...Baseball, CrossCountry, Track, Basketball, Golf, Swimming. Moreover, in the last few years of his career he did serve as the quasi athletic director while CISD did not have an official AD.
Strikes me as odd that the loudest complainers are not the Oak Ridge or Shenandoah people, but the Conroe people who live to hate the Woodlands.
Rivalry is one thing, and I've done battle with Willig teams for years and hated them too, but give the man the respect and recognition he so rightfully deserves...Welcome to Willig Stadium!!! Like Gunner says probably wont happen now and all who blocked it should hide their faces in shame.
Glad someone finally agreeing with me --if the Conroe people would just discuss with facts --not blind hatred against WW & TWH --then maybe some progress in this backwoods district could be made --here are some FACTS that I have personal knowledge of :
1. TWH athletics receive less PER student than the other 4 high schools in the district ( TWH booster clubs are expected to make up the difference )
2. When WW needed something for his program ( or any other sport at TWH ) -- the booster clubs were hit up for the $ ---the other schools whine that their booster clubs dont have the money or ability to provide --therefore the district ( taxpayers ) must fund it. So TWH parents get to pay twice --to booster club for TWH & tax $ for the other schools. You College Park parents better get ready --- once the "new " wears off & CP starts to provide competition to TWH -- the district will start doing this to you also ( right now CP gets what they need from the district )
3. The Conroe kool-aide drinkers refer to Willig stealing players from the other schools -- he didnt --there have been some approach him --his answer was always the same -- he wouldnt talk to them until they did everything to be legal. Once they did so then he would allow them in his program. --- The current player that is held as example is Travis Milo --but he is a junior & Willig has been gone for 3 years --- do the math. There are charges that he stole players from Oak Ridge ---but when OR went 3 rounds in playoffs about 5 years ago -- OR had 3 starters that lived in Woodlands
4. Just as an aside --not really about Willig -- but the current HC at TWH (Marc Schmid) - is only 4th in pay in CISD ( Conroe , CP , & Caney Creek coaches make more )
Know this wont make any difference to the Conroe people --- but maybe some other posters here may understand the emotion involved in this issue
McC Insider
10-03-2006, 03:19 PM
Unless the former mayors of Oak Ridge and many respected individuals living east of I-45, have duel properties in North and South county I don't understand how the only opposition is coming from Conroe. They are the ones who petitionsed the board two weeks ago.
Ok. TWHFan#1 first the reason Schmid makes less is because he has the least experience aside from Barrett at Oak Ridge.
2nd TWH gets less per player becuause they have the most students (a factor willig helped facilitate)
3rd I still don't have a reason from anyone on this board why the stadium should not reflect all three schools. Other than that is what was done before (obvisusly it has caused a problem why not get it right this time)
Finally, Willig had nothing to do with the success of the Cross County and Track programs. That was all Dan Green. He fought tooth and nail with Willig for years. And why? Because Green actually won state championships.
twcpfan1
10-03-2006, 03:58 PM
Somedody had previously made reference that the FOTW has had some input on the location of the new Stadium. I was just curious to know if this is the case and how much of an influence they have on not only both Woodlands High schools, but on the community in general. They are practically in the same complex as College Park. I remember the Junior High War in the Woods at CP last year. They showed up with free hot dogs and lemonade not just for the players but for everyone at the Stadium. Does anybody have any insight on this? By the way, it's Tracy Milo right? not Travis?
twhfan#1
10-03-2006, 04:03 PM
Unless the former mayors of Oak Ridge and many respected individuals living east of I-45, have duel properties in North and South county I don't understand how the only opposition is coming from Conroe. They are the ones who petitionsed the board two weeks ago.
Ok. TWHFan#1 first the reason Schmid makes less is because he has the least experience aside from Barrett at Oak Ridge.
2nd TWH gets less per player becuause they have the most students (a factor willig helped facilitate)
3rd I still don't have a reason from anyone on this board why the stadium should not reflect all three schools. Other than that is what was done before (obvisusly it has caused a problem why not get it right this time)
Finally, Willig had nothing to do with the success of the Cross County and Track programs. That was all Dan Green. He fought tooth and nail with Willig for years. And why? Because Green actually won state championships.
I only brought up the $ angle becuase the people in Conroe always compalin about TWH better facilities because they have money
It is not fair that TWH gets less money per student than the rest of district --the txapyers in South County are being ripped off --- why dont you send your hard earned dollars to the athletic program at Smiley , or some of the HISD schools --- just to equalize things --same thing --is it fair that Caney Creek has more coaches per player than TWH ??? -- if you agree to that --there is no way I can discuss with you --- so you go ahead & continue to support all the liberals that want to give away othere peoples money ( just dont touch yours ) --tell you what --give me your credit card & I will make sure every school in the district has more money & staff than TWH
Dan Green won the state titles --and more power to him -- he is one of the most respected coaches in the state ---that includes the respect and admiration from Willig who always held Dan's program as an example of hard work & excellence
You cry babies make me sick ! ! !
AHS Mustangs
10-03-2006, 04:12 PM
Why don't they just name it after an old Superintendent(sp) or Athletic Director for the District, or is this still too much Conroe? They could just name it Conroe ISD Stadium, but then it would still have Conroe in the name, so I am sure that would make some people angry. Maybe The Woodlands, College Park and Oak Ridge should petition the state to seperate from Conroe ISD, if that is possible. Maybe the TEA can do something about it or the state itself? So much hatred can't be good for the EDUCATION of the students, much less the athletics of each of the schools.
McC Insider
10-03-2006, 04:20 PM
Have you actually looked at the facilities at TWH compared to the rest of the district. Yes the nice equipment was donated or paid for with booster money. The buildings locker rooms ect. were not. One shining example of money wasted at twh. a locker room with 6 airconditioning units. Maybe they are storing meat. As for coaches per student. Must be taxing for those coaches who teach 1 PE class have two athletic periods and an off-period each day. Wow sounds like a full days work.
Green could not stand willig. When willig wanted to enphesise green in the uni's Green baught all red for track and CC. I don't know if there was anyone happier around that school when schmid got the job then Green. I'm sure the attitude came from all of willig's admiration over the years.
twcpfan1
10-03-2006, 04:36 PM
Why don't they just name it after an old Superintendent(sp) or Athletic Director for the District, or is this still too much Conroe? They could just name it Conroe ISD Stadium, but then it would still have Conroe in the name, so I am sure that would make some people angry. Maybe The Woodlands, College Park and Oak Ridge should petition the state to seperate from Conroe ISD, if that is possible. Maybe the TEA can do something about it or the state itself? So much hatred can't be good for the EDUCATION of the students, much less the athletics of each of the schools.
North and East County schools would hurt too much financially if the South County schools were to separate from Conroe ISD . I'd like to think of it more as a rivalry rather than hatred. I think the kids will be ok inspite of all the bickering from us old farts. I for one would not want to see the Conroe and Caney Creek schools hurting
CHS98
10-03-2006, 08:45 PM
For one, i want to clarify.. I would never want to take anything away from what Moorehead did for CHS, and CISD.. however.. it would be nice if none of the schools had to share stadiums.. however.. thats not financially possible. My remarks about renaming Moorehead to Tiger Stadium where just wishful thinking out loud.. nothing more.
To comment on an earlier post about the south county schools seperating from CISD, they cant.. CISD owns the schools.. Im sure the residents from the woodlands could come together, form their own ISD and build their own schools.. I have actually heard that rumor before over the past few years... but i dont think its an option... it would be way more trouble than it is worth.
Oak Ridge and Conroe are two of the fastest growing segment of Montgomery County ( Along with Tomball and Magnolia). Montgomery county is one of the fastest growing counties in the nation.. and this growth is evident in the enrollment numbers of Conroe and Oak Ridge.. its only a matter of time until CISD has five 5A schools.. Caney Creek is growing as well... talk about some heated district races when all 5 CISD teams play each other.. now thats Texas High School Football at its finest
twhfan#1
10-03-2006, 09:33 PM
Somedody had previously made reference that the FOTW has had some input on the location of the new Stadium. I was just curious to know if this is the case and how much of an influence they have on not only both Woodlands High schools, but on the community in general. They are practically in the same complex as College Park. I remember the Junior High War in the Woods at CP last year. They showed up with free hot dogs and lemonade not just for the players but for everyone at the Stadium. Does anybody have any insight on this? By the way, it's Tracy Milo right? not Travis?
When FOTW church was under construction & CP was being planned ---there was a verbal agreement that the athletic fields ( FOTW land ) & parking lots would be shared by the church & the school -- a win-win situation for both. But when it came time to sign the contracts --FOTW spelled out their conditions :
the fields ( varsity football , baseball , softball stadiums and practice fields would be controlled by FOTW ) -- with no school use after 5:00 pm on week days & no weekends at all except games. CISD rightly could not agree to that --- so that is why the baseball & softball fields so far from campus --only land available to CISD
On another question -- Woodlands or Oak Ridge can NOT split from CISD -- US Dept of Justice will not allow it --tried once in Houston -- ( west side ) DOJ ruled that it would change the racial make-up of both districts --so that is a dead horse
G-Man
10-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Have you actually looked at the facilities at TWH compared to the rest of the district. Yes the nice equipment was donated or paid for with booster money. The buildings locker rooms ect. were not. One shining example of money wasted at twh. a locker room with 6 airconditioning units. Maybe they are storing meat. As for coaches per student. Must be taxing for those coaches who teach 1 PE class have two athletic periods and an off-period each day. Wow sounds like a full days work.
Green could not stand willig. When willig wanted to enphesise green in the uni's Green baught all red for track and CC. I don't know if there was anyone happier around that school when schmid got the job then Green. I'm sure the attitude came from all of willig's admiration over the years.+
Why would you bring Coach Green into this? I am sure he doesnt want to be part of your illogical reasoning for being anti Willig. Just for the record though Coach Green would probably still not be coaching at Woodlands if not for Willig. I will leave it at that because I refuse to air dirty laundry on a message board. Let's agree to keep Coach Green out of it.
GUNNER
10-03-2006, 11:03 PM
GUNNER:
It is not the people in conroe that have a problem or who have found reasons not to name it after willig. It is the people in Oak Ridge who don't want it, it is the people in college park who don't want it. Why? Because Weldon did not do anything for them or represent them in anyway. If he had been the AD for at least a couple years, I might understand but he was only associated with TWH so if the woods wants to honor him do it at the woodlands high school. I honestly don't understand why no one understands this. A the people in the woodlands that oblivious to the surrounding communities. How about the residents of Tamina or Shenandoah where the stadium is actually located?
GUNNER give me an explanation.
Before Oak Ridge WEldon was here working hard day in day out to make the ath programs successful. Why is Buddy Moorhead called Buddy Moorhead What the Hell did he do for MCC OaK ridge ?????????? Nothing. People felt like this guy worked hard and made his school successful and named a stadium after him................... Well the people in OR and Tamina... WIll benifit from the stadium and use it no matter what it is called... Hell lets just Name it Bob Barrett Stadium!!! OR better yet DIck Carson field!!! What the hell have they done for anyone??
LOOOK!!! The man spent 26 plus years in the same district and the same school correct????????? He built very good programs all Hired the BEST coaches That could be Hired for the KIDS>>>>>>>>>> to Be successful....... If Dan Green Hated him why did he stay just as long??? If you know Dan Greeen he needs to be guided and WW did that........
Dont mean to get excited but you look at any stadium for the most part if they are named after someone it because they lived high school athletics and breathed them for the largest portion of their life!!! Its going to be a damn shame if and when they name the stadium something else......... TO bad for the district shame shame on them NUT up and do whats right! The man fought to get a stadium and worked his life to make the Woodlands athletic programs very good...... LONE STAR CUP!!! Yes WW is gone but he hired 90 percent of the coaches that guided the youth of the woodlands to this award. The Since the award they have been in the top 6 every year and 2nd a couple well Good luck to all and hope one day the you will enjoy playing in Weldon WIllig stadium!!!
McC Insider
10-04-2006, 08:01 AM
I'm still waiting for a good reason not to represent all three schools with this stadium. If the woods hated moorhead so much, why other than selfishness would they subject Oak Ridge and CP to that.
forest99
10-04-2006, 11:03 AM
Conroe is conroe and they named the stadium and everyone names the stadiums after great men that have coached their entire lifes at one school and did the most for the youth so Weldon Willig Stadium should happen BUT>>>>>>>> COnroe people and district people despise the Woodlands. and therefore the naming of the stadium has gone public, so to find reasons not to name it after Willig Damn Shame!!!! Shame on you people..... I can't imagine now it will be named after Willig and that is terrible!!!!
WW did not just coach at "teh" woodlands....roger holtkamp has been in conroe isd his whole life. lets go with holtkamp field??? yes, that is ridiculous....but its the exact same reasoning for WW. and even moreso for for holtkamp because he has helped 2 CISD programs instead of just one...why cant we just name it after somebody who did something for ALL of conroe isd....not just one person...and why cant ALL conroe isd teams share both stadiums, just like cy fair isd??? and why do we even NEED one more stadium anyways? klein has 4 schools and they share. cy fair shared a stadium with 7 schools. heres an ever better idea if you feel like you HAVE to have another stadium, sell the naming rights.....nevermind....just name the stupid thing stockton field............
Kilt-Boy
10-04-2006, 11:29 AM
God this thread is tired!!!
1. I live in the Woodlands
2. I voted "FOR" the stadium
3. I don't give a damn what they name this stadium.
For all I care they could name it the
"Stadium sitting on a swamp created by the RR drainage, that we were idiots not to survey better, and will take so long to start my son won't get to play there field".
forest99
10-04-2006, 11:49 AM
not to get overpersonal, but what grade is your son in and is he on varsity??
Kilt-Boy
10-04-2006, 11:51 AM
Not Varsity. That's as detailed as I'll give. ;)
forest99
10-04-2006, 12:01 PM
just curious...and i dont blame ya, theres some psychos on here!!!! (like mccinsider...i wonder just how far he is inside mcc???)
slorch
10-04-2006, 01:10 PM
You need to go back to school to get a civics lesson> School districts , Counties , and Post Office have nothing to do with each other -- and it has nothing to do with gerrymandering --- just the way things are in Texas -- just so you know :
1. School Districts were formed long before there was settlement in some areas --- Conroe ISD includes all area from city of Conroe to Spring Creek --was that way before there was Oak Ridge , Woodlands , or any other population --only residents were the sawmill workers living in Tamina
2. US Post Office sets their own serving areas --most people dont realize that The Woodlands Post Offices are actually sub-stations of the Spring Post Office --as for Oak Ridge -- you are served ( mail delivered from ) the Conroe post office ( no sub station ) --so if you have a problem with that -- go whine to USPS -- not a football chat line. There is some rational for the split the way it is -- more of an east-west split rather than north-south & there IS a natural dividing line east-west --it is called IH 45 --it is that little piece of concrete to the west of Oak Ridge --- ask around , most people in OR can show you where it is
3. The Harpers Landing situation is another Texas law -- Extra -Territorial Jurisdiction (ETJ)-- cities control certain distance from their city limits so they wont get boxed in --Harpers Landing is in Conroe ETJ --like it or not --that is the law. That is why all the meetings in Woodlands about governace means nothing --the vast majority of Woodlands is in Houston ETJ --so there can be no incorporation of Woodlands without permission from Houston
I know these things, now everyone else does. i wasn't complaining, just describing the whole conglomeration going on here, tongue in cheek.
If I didn't like it, I wouldn't live here, right?
stangsfan
10-04-2006, 01:58 PM
I for one think the area could use a new stadium regardless of what it's named. It is however, disappointing if true that it must be built to the standards of Moor - (the other stadium) rather than what others are building. Ex. GPISD, Berry, etc. Moorhead is moor than 30 years old, why replicate that today?
AHS Mustangs
10-04-2006, 02:18 PM
Just name it the "CollegeOakLands Stadium." Then they all have a part of it.
forest99
10-04-2006, 03:14 PM
Just name it the "CollegeOakLands Stadium." Then they all have a part of it.
nice...but they need to rotate who plays there just like cy fair isd at berry center....so it needs to be con creek college oak lands stadium.
slorch
10-04-2006, 03:18 PM
The Oak College stadium
forest99
10-04-2006, 03:28 PM
oh ya, what in the world was i thinking....youve gotta throw in a TEH somewhere!!!
AHS Mustangs
10-04-2006, 03:55 PM
oh ya, what in the world was i thinking....youve gotta throw in a TEH somewhere!!!
Ok, here we go for ALL of them "The CreekRoeParkRidgeLands" :D That has a ring to it!
stangsfan
10-04-2006, 05:00 PM
To somewhat accommodate 'Teh Woodlands' but not capitulate to 'Willig Stadium' it should therefore be named 'Teh Stadium'.
twhfan#1
10-04-2006, 09:40 PM
I for one think the area could use a new stadium regardless of what it's named. It is however, disappointing if true that it must be built to the standards of Moor - (the other stadium) rather than what others are building. Ex. GPISD, Berry, etc. Moorhead is moor than 30 years old, why replicate that today?
the powers that be dont want South County to have anything "better than Conroe "
And a final note --- all the cutsie names for the stadium --ANYTHING OTHER THAN WILLIG IS UNACCEPTABLE --to a large number of South County residents --- note : I do NOT live in The Woodlands
GUNNER
10-05-2006, 11:03 AM
WW did not just coach at "teh" woodlands....roger holtkamp has been in conroe isd his whole life. lets go with holtkamp field??? yes, that is ridiculous....but its the exact same reasoning for WW. and even moreso for for holtkamp because he has helped 2 CISD programs instead of just one...why cant we just name it after somebody who did something for ALL of conroe isd....not just one person...and why cant ALL conroe isd teams share both stadiums, just like cy fair isd??? and why do we even NEED one more stadium anyways? klein has 4 schools and they share. cy fair shared a stadium with 7 schools. heres an ever better idea if you feel like you HAVE to have another stadium, sell the naming rights.....nevermind....just name the stupid thing stockton field............
Holtkamp are you kidding..............With all the athletes at Conroe and they cant do justice sorry What would happen if the TW coaches coached those athletes??? Better yet if WW was at Conroe He would have made that place a powerhouse like it was.. Its a shame.. Name the stadium you all want to Im going to focus on watching some good football and let all the people who really dont follow football ***** about something that should have been a done and over with.. Grow some nuts and make a decision. Back to football!!!!
forest99
10-05-2006, 12:53 PM
Holtkamp are you kidding..............With all the athletes at Conroe and they cant do justice sorry What would happen if the TW coaches coached those athletes??? Better yet if WW was at Conroe He would have made that place a powerhouse like it was.. Its a shame.. Name the stadium you all want to Im going to focus on watching some good football and let all the people who really dont follow football ***** about something that should have been a done and over with.. Grow some nuts and make a decision. Back to football!!!!
well, yall are saying WW did sooo much for conroe isd....when he actually didnt, Holtkamp has been with oak ridge and conroe, more than just one school like WW. and if were just going off of records, why did yall ever complain about buddy moorhead stadium???
GUNNER
10-06-2006, 12:14 AM
well, yall are saying WW did sooo much for conroe isd....when he actually didnt, Holtkamp has been with oak ridge and conroe, more than just one school like WW. and if were just going off of records, why did yall ever complain about buddy moorhead stadium???
WE never complained about Moorhead we just dont feel like it is not our home field when its on your CAMPUS!!!!!!!! Not because it says Buddy Moorhead?? DO you understand that??? Buddy Moorhead did a good job at Conroe so they named a stadium after him........ He didnt do anything for CISD or any other school besides Conroe!!!!!! Did nothing at all............... So It could be named after Willig will be home when they are home and Away when the woods is home.. Just get over it................... People are just holding a grudge and some personal vendettas versus Willig............... Just like when he was AD and was going to retire and work wHilE retired and they pulled the rug on him....... again personal vendettas. Holtkamp has a field already named after him........... the new subvarsity field!!! THE Rog!!!!!! IT DOESNT MATTER........ NAME IT WHAT YOU WANT AND THE WOODLANDS WILL OWN THE DAMN THING ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck in district!
TWHS Alum
10-06-2006, 12:19 AM
which sub varsity feild are you talking about
McC Insider
10-06-2006, 10:31 AM
So, if it doesn't matter what they call it and Moorhead doesn't bother you. They could name the new stadium Moorhead and the current stadium could go back to Tiger. You know how those vendettas work.
Obviously that would be rediuculous just like your statement about the people in conroe causing problems for willig and the woods. Look at the board the woods is in control. Look at the Super Int. he was principal at the woods. All the people that have the power are from the woods.
I still want to know why the woods doesn't understand where Oak Ridge and CP are comming from. They simply don't want to play at a stadium with willigs name on it. Honestly, I would at least like for someone to just come out and say that they do understand because they have been there, but they just don't give a crap.
twcpfan1
10-06-2006, 11:14 AM
So, if it doesn't matter what they call it and Moorhead doesn't bother you. They could name the new stadium Moorhead and the current stadium could go back to Tiger. You know how those vendettas work.
Obviously that would be rediuculous just like your statement about the people in conroe causing problems for willig and the woods. Look at the board the woods is in control. Look at the Super Int. he was principal at the woods. All the people that have the power are from the woods.
I still want to know why the woods doesn't understand where Oak Ridge and CP are comming from. They simply don't want to play at a stadium with willigs name on it. Honestly, I would at least like for someone to just come out and say that they do understand because they have been there, but they just don't give a crap.
Quite frankly, I really haven't heard any CP people complaining. But then again, I haven't talked to a lot of them about this.
GUNNER
10-06-2006, 01:26 PM
Quite frankly, I really haven't heard any CP people complaining. But then again, I haven't talked to a lot of them about this.
So if the Woods has the ball at the board and the supt why are we finding reasons not to name it after ww? Joke Ridge signed something crying they would not feel at home if they had to play there.. So do they feel at home playing at Moorhead??? Find some other reason to grip........ OR you just came on board staff anyway so you should have no say! CP guys not sure but Im sure they dont care so go figure.....
McC Insider
10-06-2006, 02:36 PM
No OR doesn't feel at home in Moorhead just like the woods doesn't feel at home. College Park can't even get its name spelled right up north so they are all in the same boat.
It's not about the new staff its not even about the current players. It is about the future players and the past players that have been past over time after time after time in many areas, not just athletics. They have been treated the way you see them now - as the district step child since the early 80's. That is over 20 years and you don't think the community is tired of it. I'm willing to bet that if they had caught a break or two over the years they would be willing to comply on this simple problem.
forest99
10-06-2006, 02:48 PM
WE never complained about Moorhead we just dont feel like it is not our home field when its on your CAMPUS!!!!!!!! Not because it says Buddy Moorhead?? DO you understand that??? Buddy Moorhead did a good job at Conroe so they named a stadium after him........ He didnt do anything for CISD or any other school besides Conroe!!!!!! Did nothing at all............... So It could be named after Willig will be home when they are home and Away when the woods is home.. Just get over it................... People are just holding a grudge and some personal vendettas versus Willig............... Just like when he was AD and was going to retire and work wHilE retired and they pulled the rug on him....... again personal vendettas. Holtkamp has a field already named after him........... the new subvarsity field!!! THE Rog!!!!!! IT DOESNT MATTER........ NAME IT WHAT YOU WANT AND THE WOODLANDS WILL OWN THE DAMN THING ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck in district!
yes, i know exactly how it feels.....i played for klein forest and our home stadium was klein memorial AT klein hs campus...
GUNNER
10-07-2006, 09:33 PM
yes, i know exactly how it feels.....i played for klein forest and our home stadium was klein memorial AT klein hs campus...
WEll they need to name it and it will happen soon. Its a stadium that the 3 schools will play in and the person who has contributed his life to the woodlands as a part of CISD yes The Woodlands represents CISD in all they do....... So what is the problem..... At Oak Ridge there is not a long standing person that would represent this honor. If the person that held this long string of success and duty to a school and a district was from Oak Ridge I would respect that!!!! Yes!!!! People in CISD cant stand WW or The woodlands....... despise all they do........ and dont celebrate when the woods wins a state championship or do well.. The reason they dont celebrate is because they dont want the other schools to feel bad. (TRUTH) Im real curious what they will name this stadium??? I could see the IRONs thing going but heard some dislikes of that also.... What are some honest ideas or is this going to hit everyone and say...... Who is that??? Or why did they name it that????? Food For thought...... Who wanted the new stadium and who acted and represented CISD in dealing for land??? Who sent a member of his staff to other stadiums to see what woul dbe best for the CISD stadium to be named at a later date ?????? Good luck in the stadium naming and enjoy the rest of a great football season!
CHS98
10-09-2006, 09:58 PM
how about W. Willig field at G. Irons Stadium in The Woodlands?
actually, im just joking...
Its interesting to see how heated a conversation about the naming of a high school stadium can get.
I really dont want to see the stadium named after Willig.. although he is a tremendous couch, and put TWHS on the Texas HS Football map, there are other schools to take into consideration.. Moorehead was named after Buddy, after he passed away..
I think a neutral name can be found.. one that represents Montgomery County Heritage, rather than one man...or rather.. how about George Strake Stadium.. considering Montgomery county was the welthiest county in the US during the depression because of the oil fields... or many of the others that helped forge south county.. Mitchell Stadium.. or better yet.. Cynthia Woods Mitchell Stadium..Panther Creek stadium
the list could go on and on..
twcpfan1
10-09-2006, 10:16 PM
Let's just build the damn thing. People can argue forever about what to name it. As long as I know where to park my car, that's all I care about. Only thing that's going to upset me is if it isn't ready by football season 2008.
GUNNER
10-10-2006, 09:06 AM
Let's just build the damn thing. People can argue forever about what to name it. As long as I know where to park my car, that's all I care about. Only thing that's going to upset me is if it isn't ready by football season 2008.
JUDSONS RENAMING ITS STADIUM
The football stadium will be named after coach D.W. Rutledge and the athletic complex will be named after coach and athletic director Frank Arnold. Excellent choices. They have earned the honor. Ceremonies will be at the home game versus Smithson Valley.
JUDSON RENAMING THEIR STADIUM...............FROM JUDSON STADIUM TO RECOGNIZE COACHES THAT SPENT THEIR LIFE WITH THE YOUTH OF THEIR COMMUNITIES........ AWESOME SOMEONE RECOGNIZES PEOPLE FOR COMMITMENT...Someday they will do this to the generic name the stadium will be named.....
McC Insider
10-10-2006, 10:53 AM
Could this possibly be because the stadium is currently named Judson Stadium and there are two teams that play their now. I'm sure Wagner was all about playing in Judson Stadium.
forest99
10-10-2006, 11:03 AM
Could this possibly be because the stadium is currently named Judson Stadium and there are two teams that play their now. I'm sure Wagner was all about playing in Judson Stadium.
oh wait...isnt that the EXACT same thing that conroe isd did...used to be tiger stadium, then when mcc came around they changed it to buddy moorhead stadium....and although d.w. did not die tragically, he is the prez of thsca!!!
twhfan#1
10-10-2006, 02:21 PM
oh wait...isnt that the EXACT same thing that conroe isd did...used to be tiger stadium, then when mcc came around they changed it to buddy moorhead stadium....and although d.w. did not die tragically, he is the prez of thsca!!!
OK Mr Conroe expert & Kool-Aide drinker --again you make a fool out of yourself by not knowing what you are talking about --- It was Tiger Stadium until McC came along --then it was changed to CONROE stadium for about 5 years --& would still be so if Buddy Moorhead had not died of a heart attack at a practice & CISD honored him by re-naming CONROE Stadium to Moorhead
I Guess where Willig made a mistake is he survived his heart attack at a game
McC Insider
10-10-2006, 03:05 PM
twhfan#1 of misinformation. Moorhead died at his home in the morning. Could have possibly been saved had someone been there with him. I guess Willig was lucky he was not alone at the time.
G-Man
10-10-2006, 03:16 PM
When will this thread die???? Please name the stadium and be done with it!!!
twhfan#1
10-10-2006, 04:10 PM
twhfan#1 of misinformation. Moorhead died at his home in the morning. Could have possibly been saved had someone been there with him. I guess Willig was lucky he was not alone at the time.
OK -- my bad about where he died -- I really thought it was at school -- by no means meant to dis-honor him --just trying to make a point that if CONROE stadium can be named after a coach at Conroe -- why not a coach at TWH that was there for 26 years who also had a heart attack ??
Guess there are just too many WW haters out there to see it -- right W.M ??
stangsfan
10-10-2006, 06:01 PM
When will this thread die???? Please name the stadium and be done with it!!!
Build it and they will come - regardless of name. :cool:
leda08
10-10-2006, 07:02 PM
Have they even started construction yet?
twcpfan1
10-10-2006, 07:20 PM
When will this thread die???? Please name the stadium and be done with it!!!
HELL NO !!! DON'T KILL IT...It's one of the few Woodlands related threads left. If you wanna kill something, kill one of the 'Hey we're SLC, Look how good we are' threads or 'Look we're SV, we're good too' threads. Enough of those around. Killing one or two will be barely noticeable..LOL
TWHS02
10-11-2006, 07:52 PM
No OR doesn't feel at home in Moorhead just like the woods doesn't feel at home. College Park can't even get its name spelled right up north so they are all in the same boat.
It's not about the new staff its not even about the current players. It is about the future players and the past players that have been past over time after time after time in many areas, not just athletics. They have been treated the way you see them now - as the district step child since the early 80's. That is over 20 years and you don't think the community is tired of it. I'm willing to bet that if they had caught a break or two over the years they would be willing to comply on this simple problem.
I played for WW for 5 years, and personally I think the Stadium needs to be named after him. "Cornrow" I have no idea why you are upset, you will have your own stadium again. Why do you even care if OUR stadium is named after OUR old coach? You are just mad bcause the "Woods" beats yall every year!
To McC Insider, I can't believe you are that uspet with WW. You of all people should have seen what he did for our football program and school. And if you think that I am saying this because I started you are wrong. I did start every year up until my senior year and then I had politics pulled on me and I saw 17 offensive plays, while a sophmore was getting more PT than me in my position. But I do not blame WW for that. That's a position coach's decision. Even though I did not get a scholarship to play anywhere, I still received one from the QB Club, something WW did have a part in. He helped me better myself even though it was just alittle.
TheDuke
10-12-2006, 10:13 AM
I played for WW for 5 years, and personally I think the Stadium needs to be named after him. "Cornrow" I have no idea why you are upset, you will have your own stadium again. Why do you even care if OUR stadium is named after OUR old coach? You are just mad bcause the "Woods" beats yall every year!
To McC Insider, I can't believe you are that uspet with WW. You of all people should have seen what he did for our football program and school. And if you think that I am saying this because I started you are wrong. I did start every year up until my senior year and then I had politics pulled on me and I saw 17 offensive plays, while a sophmore was getting more PT than me in my position. But I do not blame WW for that. That's a position coach's decision. Even though I did not get a scholarship to play anywhere, I still received one from the QB Club, something WW did have a part in. He helped me better myself even though it was just alittle.
I also played for him for four years and I was wondering why you think your position coach had anything to do with that?
Did you do something to doom your chances?
Was the Super Soph. that good?
Or was his parents flowing money to the QB club?
I could sit here all day about all the Politics that I have seen in my time and then some and I will tell you that WW had everything to do with it all. He did help me a couple times in my day and I thank him for that, but he was a strange guy. If they name the stadium after him so be it.
CHS98
10-12-2006, 11:07 AM
hey now, this thread is starting to get interesting.
I think there are way too many names this stadium could be named that honor more than just one man.. they can honor an entire county.. and the people that built the county.
TheDuke
10-12-2006, 11:27 AM
hey now, this thread is starting to get interesting.
I think there are way too many names this stadium could be named that honor more than just one man.. they can honor an entire county.. and the people that built the county.
I agree!
Especially if they are gonna have 3 or more schools playing on it.
GUNNER
10-12-2006, 11:32 AM
hey now, this thread is starting to get interesting.
I think there are way too many names this stadium could be named that honor more than just one man.. they can honor an entire county.. and the people that built the county.
Only a Conroe fan would say that! Heck I bet you would vote for anythng other than WW!!!! When will we know about the naming??? Kinda curious now hope its soon so we can keep the thread going and we I can say wow what were they thinking!!!! Hope they do the right thing only time will tell......
TWHS02
10-12-2006, 12:09 PM
I also played for him for four years and I was wondering why you think your position coach had anything to do with that?
Did you do something to doom your chances?
Was the Super Soph. that good?
Or was his parents flowing money to the QB club?
I could sit here all day about all the Politics that I have seen in my time and then some and I will tell you that WW had everything to do with it all. He did help me a couple times in my day and I thank him for that, but he was a strange guy. If they name the stadium after him so be it.
I busted my ***, and when it was my turn to show what I had, I proved I was better than the guy in front of me, who's daddy cuts big checks to the QB Club. After that performance the "daddy" chewed my position coach out. Mysteriously I was moved behind our best O-Line man the following week.
So to answer you, yes I doomed myself by out performing a starter with $
forest99
10-12-2006, 12:25 PM
I played for WW for 5 years, and personally I think the Stadium needs to be named after him. "Cornrow" I have no idea why you are upset, you will have your own stadium again. Why do you even care if OUR stadium is named after OUR old coach? You are just mad bcause the "Woods" beats yall every year!
To McC Insider, I can't believe you are that uspet with WW. You of all people should have seen what he did for our football program and school. And if you think that I am saying this because I started you are wrong. I did start every year up until my senior year and then I had politics pulled on me and I saw 17 offensive plays, while a sophmore was getting more PT than me in my position. But I do not blame WW for that. That's a position coach's decision. Even though I did not get a scholarship to play anywhere, I still received one from the QB Club, something WW did have a part in. He helped me better myself even though it was just alittle.
see, thats exactly where the problem is.....it is NOT yalls stadium, it belongs to conroe oak ridge and conroe teh woolands college park just as much as it does to conroe teh woodlands....
twcpfan1
10-12-2006, 12:47 PM
I'm gonna recommend that all the junior high talent at Knox and McCullough read this entire thread. They will all want to play for Coach Carson at CP after reading this. They're all happy campers over there..LOL
TWHS02
10-12-2006, 05:26 PM
see, thats exactly where the problem is.....it is NOT yalls stadium, it belongs to conroe oak ridge and conroe teh woolands college park just as much as it does to conroe teh woodlands....
Aren't you tired or losing on your campus. If anyone would be wishing that "The" Woodlands would get their own stadium I thought it would be "Cornrow". This is a south county issue so why do you even care what we call it? If WW was still in the business, then there would be no CP because he would not have had it split. Also The Woodlands would have a stadium like the one Waco ISD has, but because The Woodlands can not have anything better than "Cornrow", even though it would not cost the community anything, we have to settle for what we can get.
Cavilerdad, I do agree with you that Carson is an amazing coach. I had the pleasure of working with him and I wish he would be running The Woodlands.
twhfan#1
10-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Aren't you tired or losing on your campus. If anyone would be wishing that "The" Woodlands would get their own stadium I thought it would be "Cornrow". This is a south county issue so why do you even care what we call it? If WW was still in the business, then there would be no CP because he would not have had it split. Also The Woodlands would have a stadium like the one Waco ISD has, but because The Woodlands can not have anything better than "Cornrow", even though it would not cost the community anything, we have to settle for what we can get.
Cavilerdad, I do agree with you that Carson is an amazing coach. I had the pleasure of working with him and I wish he would be running The Woodlands.
I agree with most of what you say -- But WW would have had NO influence on CP being opened --had to happen -- TWH was getting too big. It was known when TWH was opened & McC converted to 9-10 campus that it was just a matter of time before a new school was required
CHS98
10-12-2006, 08:17 PM
there is no way weldon could have stopped the formation of CP. That was a state matter.. TWHS was getting too large, so a split was bound to happen... the same thing that happened to conroe when TWHS, OR and Caney Creek were formed
twhfan#1
10-12-2006, 09:49 PM
there is no way weldon could have stopped the formation of CP. That was a state matter.. TWHS was getting too large, so a split was bound to happen... the same thing that happened to conroe when TWHS, OR and Caney Creek were formed
you are right except for 1 thing --- OR was split off from McC ( TWH ) --so this is 2nd split off for TWH , same as Conroe ( McC & Caney Creek )
TexasGolfCoach
10-12-2006, 10:26 PM
Weldon Willig Stadium....seriously.....what a dumb name for a stadium. Nothing against the old coach, but come on, Weldon Willig? How is that democratic to the other schools involved, and the future schools? It's not, so get it right CISD!!
I could care less, but it's good reading. Just my opinion--outside looking in. It's pretty simple here.....Tiger Stadium.....but we're a one horse town.
CHS98
10-13-2006, 08:43 PM
#1fan,
thanks for the correction. I was not aware that OR actually split from McCHS.. you learn something new every day
Player1
10-17-2006, 02:43 PM
who cares what the stadium is called??? no kid who is going to play football there is gonna be like, "i don't want to play there because its named after the old woodlands coach" waahhhhhhhhhhhhhh cry me a river. Most the stadiums i have played at, i have no idea what they were called. If that is what your focusing on when your going to a game, you and your team will be in trouble.
leda08
10-17-2006, 07:32 PM
I've got an idea name it Carson Stadium...haha j/j but what kind of uproar would that produce from highlander people!
South Texas
10-17-2006, 10:13 PM
I played for WW for 5 years, and personally I think the Stadium needs to be named after him. "Cornrow" I have no idea why you are upset, you will have your own stadium again. Why do you even care if OUR stadium is named after OUR old coach? You are just mad bcause the "Woods" beats yall every year!
To McC Insider, I can't believe you are that uspet with WW. You of all people should have seen what he did for our football program and school. And if you think that I am saying this because I started you are wrong. I did start every year up until my senior year and then I had politics pulled on me and I saw 17 offensive plays, while a sophmore was getting more PT than me in my position. But I do not blame WW for that. That's a position coach's decision. Even though I did not get a scholarship to play anywhere, I still received one from the QB Club, something WW did have a part in. He helped me better myself even though it was just alittle.
Wow 5 years for a 4 year high school?
TWHS02
10-18-2006, 07:41 PM
Wow 5 years for a 4 year high school?
Yes 5 years, I moved into The Woodlands my 8th grade year! Willig was incharge of all the schools, including JR Highs. So 8th plus 4 years of High School = 5 years!
GUNNER
10-18-2006, 09:20 PM
I busted my ***, and when it was my turn to show what I had, I proved I was better than the guy in front of me, who's daddy cuts big checks to the QB Club. After that performance the "daddy" chewed my position coach out. Mysteriously I was moved behind our best O-Line man the following week.
So to answer you, yes I doomed myself by out performing a starter with $
Best kids play in 5a texas football .........
GUNNER
10-18-2006, 09:31 PM
I'm gonna recommend that all the junior high talent at Knox and McCullough read this entire thread. They will all want to play for Coach Carson at CP after reading this. They're all happy campers over there..LOL
I recommend they stay where they are and enjoy this great game!!! Busted Sounds like one of the carson trained recruiters!!!! I had to laugh at this cavdad.... We will see in a couple of weeks...... If they want to win they can move, if they dont mind being behind then stay in the cp zone. Good luck to the cavs....... Magnolia next should be a victory for ya.....